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[TheFirstEvil100]

Sometimes I wish the Doctor would show up in Naruto maybe with a teenage Hanami with him to save the day after all like 12th said very long ago, and I know that he would say this to Hanami if they landed in the hell of a world. "I'm the Doctor and I save people and if anyone happens to be listening and you have any kind of a problem with that.....TO HELL WITH YOU!!!"

 

I'd like to think the last part would be said at the pro enders and Hinata fanboys.

[RulesofNature]

 

I'm still asking myself to this very day what was the hidden message or moral Kishimoto was trying to bring to the readers with this story? Anyone? 

 

Easy, work towards the good of society. The thing is this is done in a very traditionalist Japanese way. Endure the problems society has while supporting that same society.

 

Though really, this attitude is very problematic for the Japanese. Despite having laws protecting people against sexual harassment, this mentality made it so women wouldn't report their harassers because it would make the company look bad. Kids who are bullied are expected to conform to the group, and people only really go after the bullies when it gets out (in one case, the families of the bullies ended up paying to relocate the victims family). Or we get incidents where foreigners are attacked by Japanese natives, and what do the police do? Say "Are you sure they are Japanese?"

 

Japanese values result in them sweeping a lot of things under the rug while children are expected to follow the example of their elders. Even when the youth see the failings of the older generations, they're expected to bow their heads, respect their ways and follow them without question. Naruto embraced this mentality as they transitioned him from an escapist character to the father of an escapist character, and since they don't want to make Naruto's story for nothing Boruto has to learn to follow what his father says.

 

And if we really want to be cynical, we could say the moral is this: Sell Out. Forget about your principles and do what others want you to do. Keeping things going for as long as possible is better than fixing things and ending the story.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 

Easy, work towards the good of society. The thing is this is done in a very traditionalist Japanese way. Endure the problems society has while supporting that same society.

 

Though really, this attitude is very problematic for the Japanese. Despite having laws protecting people against sexual harassment, this mentality made it so women wouldn't report their harassers because it would make the company look bad. Kids who are bullied are expected to conform to the group, and people only really go after the bullies when it gets out (in one case, the families of the bullies ended up paying to relocate the victims family). Or we get incidents where foreigners are attacked by Japanese natives, and what do the police do? Say "Are you sure they are Japanese?"

 

Japanese values result in them sweeping a lot of things under the rug while children are expected to follow the example of their elders. Even when the youth see the failings of the older generations, they're expected to bow their heads, respect their ways and follow them without question. Naruto embraced this mentality as they transitioned him from an escapist character to the father of an escapist character, and since they don't want to make Naruto's story for nothing Boruto has to learn to follow what his father says.

 

And if we really want to be cynical, we could say the moral is this: Sell Out. Forget about your principles and do what others want you to do. Keeping things going for as long as possible is better than fixing things and ending the story.

 

Which is tragic 'cause not many other manga try to pull this kind of weak bull**** off either!

[Yyubie]

 

Anyone can guess is that Sasuke or Severus snape?

[Kagomaru]

 

Which is tragic 'cause not many other manga try to pull this kind of weak bull**** off either!

I look back at Yu Yu Hakusho and realize that Yusuke managed to accomplish the very goal that Naruto claimed he was going to achieve: Change the system for the better. And he did that with not only the Demon Realm, but Spirit World as well.

 

And he managed to do this by the time he turned 18.  

[VanitasDS76491]

Sometimes I wish the Doctor would show up in Naruto maybe with a teenage Hanami with him to save the day after all like 12th said very long ago, and I know that he would say this to Hanami if they landed in the hell of a world. "I'm the Doctor and I save people and if anyone happens to be listening and you have any kind of a problem with that.....TO HELL WITH YOU!!!"
 
I'd like to think the last part would be said at the pro enders and Hinata fanboys.

 
I'd welcome that, which doctor was 12?
 

 
Anyone can guess is that Sasuke or Severus snape?

That sure as kitten ain't Alan Rickman, Snape was leagues above sasuke and that twist in deadly hallows was great.
  

I look back at Yu Yu Hakusho and realize that Yusuke managed to accomplish the very goal that Naruto claimed he was going to achieve: Change the system for the better. And he did that with not only the Demon Realm, but Spirit World as well.
 
And he managed to do this by the time he turned 18.

Again something Yu Yu Hakusho did better than naruto. That's why Yusuke is a great character the last arc of Yu Yu was rushed but great. And the ending in the anime was better than naruto and brought finale to the characters after Sensui changed everything.

[Gravenimage]

I look back at Yu Yu Hakusho and realize that Yusuke managed to accomplish the very goal that Naruto claimed he was going to achieve: Change the system for the better. And he did that with not only the Demon Realm, but Spirit World as well.

 

And he managed to do this by the time he turned 18.  

 

A million times better than Naruto. I am looking forward to the reboot.

[Phantom_999]

 

I'm still asking myself to this very day what was the hidden message or moral Kishimoto was trying to bring to the readers with this story? Anyone? 

 

It's simple. The message is MASASHI KISHIMOTO CAN NOT WRITE FOR HIS LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Naruto's success is only due to Kosuke Yahagi and no one else

Edited by Phantom_999, 11 March 2018 - 09:43 AM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 

It's simple. The message is MASASHI KISHIMOTO CAN NOT WRITE FOR HIS LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Naruto's success is only due to  Kosuke Yahagi and no one else

 

AMEN!!

[LuckyChi7]

Damn I can't remember the last time I was this moved by a fanart let alone a doujinshi 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited by LuckyChi7, 02 February 2018 - 09:53 PM.

[sushi.]

I've seen that before but is that the end of it?^

[LuckyChi7]

I've seen that before but is that the end of it?^

 

That's about all I could find of it  from twitter, tumblr, and devianart.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

I've seen that before but is that the end of it?^

 

Well, sushi., the artist has done other stuff since the ending came out, and I've seen it a lot on Tumblr. Chi, if you can find the others translated, those could be fun to share here too

[LuckyChi7]

 

Well, sushi., the artist has done other stuff since the ending came out, and I've seen it a lot on Tumblr. Chi, if you can find the others translated, those could be fun to share here too

 

Always keeping an eye on things good friend  

[Gravenimage]

Damn I can't remember the last time I was this moved by a fanart let alone a doujinshi 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kishimoto would never have the balls to do this^.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Kishimoto would never have the balls to do this^.

 

I hear that! He's too wrapped around his current editors and Studio Pierrot's fingers to do anything about it. He's almost like a Chinese finger trap mixed with cat's cradle and tied up with a yo-yo.

[sushi.]

 

Always keeping an eye on things good friend

What's the name of the artist on tumblr and deviantart?

[VanitasDS76491]

Damn I can't remember the last time I was this moved by a fanart let alone a doujinshi 
 
 
 

 
 

 
 

 

So beautiful.

[Derock]

Damn I can't remember the last time I was this moved by a fanart let alone a doujinshi 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What. a. Gem. (putting this as potential scene in my epic plot bunny).

[T XD]

Again, no logic with replacing a beautiful developed pairing from the beginning like NS with a weak pairing like NH.

 

If I were in Masashi Kishimoto's shoes, I wouldn't be able to draw nor write the last chapter of the manga. It seems the guy has gone numb when he did the last chapter.