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#25581 NarutoUzumaki01

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 04:13 PM

I wouldn't exactly call them ninjas anymore. They kind of lost that title when they started flying, breathing in space, and creating New York cities in what is supposed to be called the "Hidden Leaf."

That reminds me, why do call all the villages "Hidden" when they have like road signs and such to tell you when they are located and if people know where they are?

That is given.

I mean, remember when childrens around 12 y.o. fought to death on a simple C (or D?) rank mission? Or remember when orphans was recruited as spies, or trained between themself in battles to death. Or when group of 12 y.o. was sent to deal with a group of criminals that was trained under a veteran of previous world war? (Great idea).

 

Guess risking lifes of childrens is okay, and 8 walking nuclear weapons is not even question to consider.

 

"Gonna surpass all previous generations" to only enforce everything that was done before.  :kappa_girl:

Not talking about sending spies to kill leaders of other smaller countiry leaders, that is given for a better future of the world.



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Posted 27 October 2017 - 04:16 PM

That is given.

I mean, remember when childrens around 12 y.o. fought to death on a simple C (or D?) rank mission? Or remember when orphans was recruited as spies, or trained between themself in battles to death. Or when group of 12 y.o. was sent to deal with a group of criminals that was trained under a veteran of previous world war? (Great idea).

 

Guess risking lifes of childrens is okay, and 8 walking nuclear weapons is not even question to consider.

 

"Gonna surpass all previous generations" to only enforce everything that was done before.  :kappa_girl:

Not talking about sending spies to kill leaders of other smaller countiry leaders, that is given for a better future of the world.

That's still the same with the current generation. Children sent to do battling missions against criminals and allowed to fight when critical problems occurs. The next one is the Akutsuki-like gang of Boruto.


Edited by T XD, 27 October 2017 - 04:17 PM.


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Posted 27 October 2017 - 04:44 PM

That's still the same with the current generation. Children sent to do battling missions against criminals and allowed to fight when critical problems occurs. The next one is the Akutsuki-like gang of Boruto.

I think the only change that Naruto has made to the system is the implementation of jinchuuriki as the village's secret WoMD, but who honestly knows?


Edited by Kagomaru, 27 October 2017 - 04:58 PM.

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 04:52 PM

That's still the same with the current generation. Children sent to do battling missions against criminals and allowed to fight when critical problems occurs. The next one is the Akutsuki-like gang of Boruto.

And the system won't change because then Boruto wouldn't exist. They could be creative and make up an original plot but they're not, so they're sticking to family therapy and the same type of antagonists. :zaru:


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Posted 27 October 2017 - 05:04 PM

That is given.

I mean, remember when childrens around 12 y.o. fought to death on a simple C (or D?) rank mission? Or remember when orphans was recruited as spies, or trained between themself in battles to death. Or when group of 12 y.o. was sent to deal with a group of criminals that was trained under a veteran of previous world war? (Great idea).

 

Guess risking lifes of childrens is okay, and 8 walking nuclear weapons is not even question to consider.

 

"Gonna surpass all previous generations" to only enforce everything that was done before.  :kappa_girl:

Not talking about sending spies to kill leaders of other smaller countiry leaders, that is given for a better future of the world.

I can't really comment too much on this one because it's not that farfetched even if you disagree with it.
Boku no Hero Academia traines kids no younger than Naruto's to be trained heroes that fight criminals with some even strong enough to level cities.

There are several manga and anime that have recruited children into the fray of something that they really shouldn't be in. Heck, you can even look at DC comics for such a things as well like the Teen Titans, Batman with the Robins, and so forth. I remember Kevin Smith even talking about this where he asks why don't people think Batman is weird for using kids to fight drug dealers and psychotic villains or even the readers not approving of such a thing.

I can't really say much against it for the fact that sometimes desperate times call for desperate messures.

Granted, of course, this doesn't explain Boruto's generation.
 


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Posted 27 October 2017 - 05:12 PM

Granted, of course, this doesn't explain Boruto's generation.

NH fans can say all they want about it being realistic or being a fictional world, heck be it fictional world, then "perfoect" world in major ways is possible, be it realistic portraiting, then nothing is adressed at all. 

 

With the kids of the old cast I have a good name for the all from MGS 'Les Enfants Terribles' also know as the terrible children.

Sorry, I think Snake and his brothers doesn't need to be mentioned in one sentence with something of such low tier as characters of that manga.



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Posted 27 October 2017 - 05:34 PM

 Yeah it's weird , Japanese always hold close to their tradition , they not the type that embrace outside / west culture so openly like that.

The new york city at the chapter 700 , i heard kishi draw it there because he dedicated the ending for the western fans. Hes basically saying "This is what you want right??"

 

Actually kishi seems pretty fond of new york city thats why he drew the city in the background. He said he always wanted to visit nyc he wrote that statement when he wrote mario manga oneshot.



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Posted 27 October 2017 - 05:58 PM

 
Actually kishi seems pretty fond of new york city thats why he drew the city in the background. He said he always wanted to visit nyc he wrote that statement when he wrote mario manga oneshot.

Maybe kishi is an ameriboo ;p

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 06:14 PM

And the system won't change because then Boruto wouldn't exist. They could be creative and make up an original plot but they're not, so they're sticking to family therapy and the same type of antagonists. :zaru:

The existence of children based off their parents is a probable indication for rinse and repeat plot. The first scene of the anime make us see the same pattern repeated between Naruto and Sasuke, hatred, etc.



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Posted 27 October 2017 - 06:57 PM

That is given.

I mean, remember when childrens around 12 y.o. fought to death on a simple C (or D?) rank mission? Or remember when orphans was recruited as spies, or trained between themself in battles to death. Or when group of 12 y.o. was sent to deal with a group of criminals that was trained under a veteran of previous world war? (Great idea).

 

Guess risking lifes of childrens is okay, and 8 walking nuclear weapons is not even question to consider.

 

"Gonna surpass all previous generations" to only enforce everything that was done before.  :kappa_girl:

Not talking about sending spies to kill leaders of other smaller countiry leaders, that is given for a better future of the world.

D - Rank missions are just essentially chores within the village in order to promote teamwork and hone basic skills they (should have been) taught by their sensei; stuff like tree-walking, water-walking, basic jutsus, and such (the fact that Kakashi NEVER even taught his team tree-walking, or especially water-walking when they were going to a place called MIZU NO KUNI / LAND OF WATER, until the MIDDLE of a C - Rank mission that then gets bumped up to A - Rank with Zabuza's involvement further shows how crap a sensei he was overall).

C - Rank missions are where there are elements of danger once the Genin team in question is deemed qualified enough to be able to defend themselves, as well as mentally ready to possibly make their first kill (again, Kakashi saying Team Seven was qualified for one when they clearly weren't). Most of the time, it's usually just normal bandits and criminals while slightly more dangerous missions may include other Genin or maybe Chunin who are deemed weak or not too great a threat.

B - Rank missions are for Chunin level or higher that usually involve other Chunin, or Special or lower level Jonin.

A - Rank missions are for strong Chunin or Jonin that usually involve other Jonin.

S - Rank obviously being the most dangerous, usually for the strongest and most skilled of Jonin, or the ANBU.

 

The existence of children based off their parents is a probable indication for rinse and repeat plot. The first scene of the anime make us see the same pattern repeated between Naruto and Sasuke, hatred, etc.

"Let's do the same thing as Naruto and Sasuke...but switch around who does what! So Naruto's son will represent the system and his opponent will want to change it! We're SO clever! No one will EVER suspect anything!"


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Posted 27 October 2017 - 09:07 PM

With the kids of the old cast I have a good name for the all from MGS 'Les Enfants Terribles' also know as the terrible children.


That's actually not bad as they are just lamer clones of their parents so the name fits only the actual les enfants terribles are actually interesting save solidus he was kind of bland, solid and liquid were the better two.

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 09:08 PM

NH fans can say all they want about it being realistic or being a fictional world, heck be it fictional world, then "perfoect" world in major ways is possible, be it realistic portraiting, then nothing is adressed at all. 
 

Sorry, I think Snake and his brothers doesn't need to be mentioned in one sentence with something of such low tier as characters of that manga.

I think he means their a lamer version of the project.

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 09:52 PM

NH fans can say all they want about it being realistic or being a fictional world, heck be it fictional world, then "perfoect" world in major ways is possible, be it realistic portraiting, then nothing is adressed at all.

Pro-enders love flipping between the two.
NH is canon:
"It is so realistic. Of course people move on and date different people."

 

Well, if there is world peace, why do they still train kids to be in war?
"Well, this is not supposed to be realistic. It is a fantasy."

So Yeah, they flip what they deem "realistic" and "fantasy" to justify instances
 


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Posted 28 October 2017 - 10:30 PM

 

Found this vid on youtube good anamation to it and funny with what Vegeta does to Naruto and the name of his bat,



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Found this vid on youtube good anamation to it and funny with what Vegeta does to Naruto and the name of his bat,

That was really funny and love what he did to naruto and did he kill him and I hope that shuriken hit him in the balls , pity hinata wasn't there when Naruto lost or got killed. Yugioh sounded like Chris Sabat being Dan green and vegeta sounded like lany and Chris put together.

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Posted 29 October 2017 - 08:17 PM

I wouldn't exactly call them ninjas anymore. They kind of lost that title when they started flying, breathing in space, and creating New York cities in what is supposed to be called the "Hidden Leaf."

That reminds me, why do call all the villages "Hidden" when they have like road signs and such to tell you when they are located and if people know where they are?

 

And the flashy bangs, and hundreds of feet+ tall summoning animals, and the gigantic blasts ala Dragon Ball Z, and the dramatic power ups. shall I go on?  


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Posted 29 October 2017 - 09:41 PM

 

Found this vid on youtube good anamation to it and funny with what Vegeta does to Naruto and the name of his bat,

Nice find, from that I found this:

go to 3:25 good description of Naruto and Sasuke. :hehehe:


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 29 October 2017 - 10:40 PM

Nice find, from that I found this:

go to 3:25 good description of Naruto and Sasuke. :hehehe:

lol oh god that is so true so damn true :lmao:



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Posted 29 October 2017 - 10:58 PM

lol oh god that is so true so damn true :lmao:


Oh Ya it's show true and can you that kitten happening with Naruto and sasuke. I'm actually surprised no one in Naruto just randomly asked if Naruto and sasuke were gay I'm surprised sai didn't say anything about it cause he would. Like how devil boner asked the menatiest if they were in the fury road review.

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Posted 30 October 2017 - 06:55 AM

 

And the flashy bangs, and hundreds of feet+ tall summoning animals, and the gigantic blasts ala Dragon Ball Z, and the dramatic power ups. shall I go on?  

 

I didn't mind the summoning animals that much. Toads, snakes, etc don't really mess up the ninja theme. But I agree, all those biju bomb spams, clumsy mecha battles, etc were just overdone. What really gets me were those susanoo samurai. As much as I hate the introduction of the susanoo, I was (kinda) fine with the original concept where it was skeletal or even that cloaked version with sword/bow (like Itachi's early version).

 

Then they grew legs, went 100 feet tall, grew paper mache wings and the user was suspended in a pentagon on their foreheads. It didn't even look intimidating. It looked wonky and hilarious. I can't help but laugh.  :chuckle:

 

And for Naruto, back when he was going to train to control the 9 tails, I thought he would just learn to tap into it's power without the harmful effects (like the peeling skin, life shortening, bodily damage etc). Maybe Kishi could have edited that skeletal Kyuubi mode a bit or even keep it entirely (beautiful design), but instead we got a glowy super saiyan fox.  :D

 

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