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[TouKen4Life3g]

 

I am from the US and I am a NS fan. IMO, Sakura status will improve when she is finally over Sasuke. I still believe that is where a lot of the hate comes from.

 

I think the fans that care about the pairs will leave for a little bit, but come back for the ending. I want to see if Naruto is the next SO6Ps.

 

I hope Kishi ends SS soon. I feel if he keeps the ship wars alive, he is bringing hatred against his characters. Plus I can't grasp Sakura still being in love with Sasuke after everything too. When Sasuke shows his true motive, I can't see her still struggling with her feelings after that.

 

IMO, it would be best to end SS in the next chapter. Then let NS grow from there.

Yeah, that's pretty much the way I can see him doing. I mean anything that is forced on something, especially on her master, will not make Sakura happy in the slightest. I do wonder if Sasuke is aware that Tsunade is close with Sakura, let alone Naruto, so doing a small thing to Tsunade like making her submit her title to Sasuke is something that Sakura should slap Sasuke for. But we don't know exactly what Orochimaru will do in this moment. Could he just help her like a good person, make a price for it, or kill her altogether? We don't know but it's suggesting darkness awaits. We have to wait. The sad part is that whatever he do, we have to wait longer since it took him a while to get there.

[HauntedCake]

I believe there will still be a huge SS moment coming.  But don't you think guys that it is better that before knowing what pairing will stand at the end, we have to see all the aces of SS and of NS, I mean everything?   I think the only pairs that are in a battle right now are SS and NS, aren't they?  Maybe NH, but I think it's somewhat vague.

Any moment for SS that has a major impact will almost guarantee a major regression for Sakura and putting Sasuke way OOC.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I believe there will still be a huge SS moment coming.  But don't you think guys that it is better that before knowing what pairing will stand at the end, we have to see all the aces of SS and of NS, I mean everything?   I think the only pairs that are in a battle right now are SS and NS, aren't they?  Maybe NH, but I think it's somewhat vague.

I'll be honest with you, I will lmao when there is none for SS. It's not about hate, rather it's about how much we are so sure that every pairings matter in the world of Naruto. Then again, when you say moment, do you mean like a moment as in anything or moment of romance, because so far, the latter is shipping away forever. Sasuke has shown his true self, which is not good at all. Anyway, I don't agree with you because SS is only relying on Sakura, who is already on the verge of dropping it. NS is still not done with many reasons, including ObiRin, so we have the league right now. SS can be hold IF Sasuke does something nice now, but too late, Juubi is "dead" and Sasuke is already exposing his real self. Not his plan, but his characteristic. But that's just me. NH: done, next please.

[Endure]

I'll be honest with you, I will lmao when there is none for SS. It's not about hate, rather it's about how much we are so sure that every pairings matter in the world of Naruto. Then again, when you say moment, do you mean like a moment as in anything or moment of romance, because so far, the latter is shipping away forever. Sasuke has shown his true self, which is not good at all. Anyway, I don't agree with you because SS is only relying on Sakura, who is already on the verge of dropping it. NS is still not done with many reasons, including ObiRin, so we have the league right now. SS can be hold IF Sasuke does something nice now, but too late, Juubi is "dead" and Sasuke is already exposing his real self. Not his plan, but his characteristic. But that's just me. NH: done, next please.

Hai, it's romance or anything that leads to it.

I see.  Well, I'll take this chance to ask you sempai, what do you think is the best ending for SS ? or, how would it end ? ( asking for your opinion )

[Endure]

Any moment for SS that has a major impact will almost guarantee a major regression for Sakura and putting Sasuke way OOC.

It can be, but do you think that Sakura will regress ( IF given that there was an SS moment with a major impact like you said ) after all of that happened sempai ( Sakura's continuous development )?   

Edited by Endure, 14 June 2013 - 06:07 PM.

[FreakySandra1995]

guys can anyone tell me what is this novel about.

 

 

SO this author wrote Blood Prison, The Tales of Naruto Uzumaki and the Sasuke one.

Maybe he'll do a NS one...   

As far as I saw it, it really was written by the author who wrote blood prison. I will buy the novel tomorrow morning and if you guys want, may scan or translate some pages? The story itself pretty much reminds me of a mix from Team 7 and The Legendary Sannins.

 

I believe there will still be a huge SS moment coming.  But don't you think guys that it is better that before knowing what pairing will stand at the end, we have to see all the aces of SS and of NS, I mean everything?   I think the only pairs that are in a battle right now are SS and NS, aren't they?  Maybe NH, but I think it's somewhat vague.

After Chapter 631, NH is most likely dead. It would seem akward bringing a similiar moment like 615 or else up again. SS ist the only pair we really still have to deal with.

[HauntedCake]

It can be, but do you think that Sakura will regress ( IF given that there was an SS moment with a major impact like you said ) after all of that happened sempai ( Sakura's continuous development )?   

Thing is, what is the point of doing hundreds of chapters of development for NS and Saskura, to show that she understands Sasuke is a bad guy only to have an equivilent of 615 for SS ?

[TouKen4Life3g]

Hai, it's romance or anything that leads to it.

I see.  Well, I'll take this chance to ask you sempai, what do you think is the best ending for SS ? or, how would it end ? ( asking for your opinion )

The best ending for SS? To be honest, I really don't know at this point anymore, because somehow, lately, Kishi is making it seem like that the last interactions he will get is with Naruto and anyone else no longer gets a development out of it. What I mean is that SS interaction could be done with in here, and the romance aspect is in her head. A lot of people are thinking that 540 can return, only to make her confirm that he's never was a great guy to her. I mean she will like him as a friend, but romance will be out of the window. At first, I think the best ending is to have a farewell with Sasuke before he leaves to understand more about life, knowing that Sasuke is about learning the reality of the world. But now, it seems like if Sasuke backstabs everyone, no one will like him, so Naruto will show him mercy hidden from everyone so he can leave without knowing. It's likely, but it can change.

 

So, my conclusion is this. Sasuke is not needed for Sakura to understand her feelings. She must do it on her own from this point forward. The main problem is that obviously Naruto will be around, so if he says something strong as PoaL speech, Sakura will fall for him. It's been a while that Naruto talks to her that makes her feel incredibly warm since that time, so when the time comes, it's game over.

[NS4Life]

Why does there have to be any SS moment for Sakura to move on? Naruto has moved heaven and earth for her and if that wasn't enough, then I don't know what can make her go 100% to Naruto. Any SS moment is only going to hurt Naruto and bring more hate on Sakura for no reason.

 

Sakura is mature enough to resolve her own feeling on her own.

 

I can see Hinata still using Naruto to push herself, because Naruto was nice to her and pushed her. What has Sasuke done for Sakura, plus they were never in a relationship.

 

IMO she is over Sasuke. I think her expression at the end of the last chapter shows she is ready now for whatever he (Sasuke) does.

 

You know, it might be Sakura telling Naruto he can't be saved.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Why does there have to be any SS moment for Sakura to move on? Naruto has moved heaven and earth for her and if that wasn't enough, then I don't know what can make her go 100% to Naruto. Any SS moment is only going to hurt Naruto and bring more hate on Sakura for no reason.

 

Sakura is mature enough to resolve her own feeling on her own.

 

I can see Hinata still using Naruto to push herself, because Naruto was nice to her and pushed her. What has Sasuke done for Sakura, plus they were never in a relationship.

 

IMO she is over Sasuke. I think her expression at the end of the last chapter shows she is ready now for whatever he (Sasuke) does.

 

You know, it might be Sakura telling Naruto he can't be saved.

The last page is pretty much the beginning of being suspicious of Sasuke. Sai knows this is BS and Juugo either have no idea or he's not going to say anything. Everytime we see Juugo, he is very focused on Sasuke, but not showing any expressions if they are good or bad. The one part that really makes me wonder is Orochimaru. Why did he go to Tsunade? You can't really say to heal her because how would they know if she's in danger to begin with. In other words, he went there to meet Tsunade with a reason, but now, he can add healing to the list since well, it sounds like she's dying. So again, why did he go there? Even if he does heal him, nobody won't know until he shows up in the battlefield with evidence, so the suspicious for Sasuke continues. Again, Sasuke don't care what they think of him, so what is going on? This is so confusing yet very interesting.

[arian_rad]

The best ending for SS? To be honest, I really don't know at this point anymore, because somehow, lately, Kishi is making it seem like that the last interactions he will get is with Naruto and anyone else no longer gets a development out of it. What I mean is that SS interaction could be done with in here, and the romance aspect is in her head. A lot of people are thinking that 540 can return, only to make her confirm that he's never was a great guy to her. I mean she will like him as a friend, but romance will be out of the window. At first, I think the best ending is to have a farewell with Sasuke before he leaves to understand more about life, knowing that Sasuke is about learning the reality of the world. But now, it seems like if Sasuke backstabs everyone, no one will like him, so Naruto will show him mercy hidden from everyone so he can leave without knowing. It's likely, but it can change.
 
So, my conclusion is this. Sasuke is not needed for Sakura to understand her feelings. She must do it on her own from this point forward. The main problem is that obviously Naruto will be around, so if he says something strong as PoaL speech, Sakura will fall for him. It's been a while that Naruto talks to her that makes her feel incredibly warm since that time, so when the time comes, it's game over.

Yeah a lot of people are going on about how sasuke actually loved sakura because of the text in the data book. I call that BS. I admit that sasuke at that point did have feelings towards sakura probably non romantic but more than a friend. At the end of the day however, sasuke chose the dark path and to be away from love. So, for him to all of a sudden come back to that moment and think everything will be the same is just stupid. So much has changed and Sakura had matured. Anything of that sort happening will only seem awkward coming from sasuke or will lead to character regression for Sakura. I think Sakura is smart enough to make the right choice especially right infront of Minato who I have to point out (still thinks she is Naruto's girlfriend) at this point I don't see a romantic outcome for sasuke and sakura because it would seem unnatural and definitely an asspull. Especially after the several murder attempts. If there was any emotion that could be changed throughout this manga, it was sakura's emotions and I see her coming to a conclusion about it very soon. And about 99% sure she will choose naruto. Let me remind you guys, Minato is watching them ;)

[TouKen4Life3g]

That is also funny that there's no SS moment while Minato is around. But I do think everyone has to remember that Sakura has been developing with Naruto, so it begs the question, what's the point of it? Well we all know why but people don't want to acknowledge it. Remember, NS development could have ended way back in part 1, but no, Kishi decides to push further. Not to mention, not moving SS anywhere. At this point, it's an obstacle for Sakura to move on, much like Ino.

[arian_rad]

That is also funny that there's no SS moment while Minato is around. But I do think everyone has to remember that Sakura has been developing with Naruto, so it begs the question, what's the point of it? Well we all know why but people don't want to acknowledge it. Remember, NS development could have ended way back in part 1, but no, Kishi decides to push further. Not to mention, not moving SS anywhere. At this point, it's an obstacle for Sakura to move on, much like Ino.

There won't be a SS moment While Minato is around. That is a given and I think Minato and all the other kages will stay alive until the end of this war or at least before naruto v.s sasuke goes down. Instead of there being SS moments I feel as though kishi at this point might be focusing on a big NS moment up ahead to make Minato happy and know that the girl of his son's dreams does truly love him back. It would seem weird at this point if Minato goes back thinking that sakura is naruto's girlfriend but in reality she won't be. All the other couples are almost done for at this point and Since the end of the manga is near, I see kishi trying to make strong points towards the ending of the story compared to giving more non-relatable moments that won't effect the story and just make people wonder even more.

[Gravenimage]

It's extremely surprising that a lot of the fans in the US literally only like this manga for the couples. To me it's sort of silly. I spend so much time trying to predict events and think of other stuff while reading this manga. The rest just came naturally to me. It's honestly something ridiculous how a fictional couple can effect some people so much to go ahead and fully give up on the manga but it will definitely happen. Naruto is nearing the end and kishi needs to start narrowing everything down.

 

Unfortunately there are fans who only read the manga for the pairings sadly. Some fans skip panels, chapters until there's a glimpse of Hinata, that's how it is. 

[Tsubaki]

 

mmh, to me that translation is pretty accurate... Anyway is does that bothering you?
 

THANK YOU!!!! 

 

humm... not going to lie .. a bit! More because of the words used, which may imply that the sasuke had feelings for her (?) .. (I'm not necessarily saying that he loves her and such) but well we have the databook 3 (funny how other shippers always use the databook 2 as proof of their ship but completely ignore the databook 3 :/) and all the evidence in the manga .. then I shouldn't be worried about it, but it's because Kishi is so unpredictable sometimes ...

[NS4Life]

The last page is pretty much the beginning of being suspicious of Sasuke. Sai knows this is BS and Juugo either have no idea or he's not going to say anything. Everytime we see Juugo, he is very focused on Sasuke, but not showing any expressions if they are good or bad. The one part that really makes me wonder is Orochimaru. Why did he go to Tsunade? You can't really say to heal her because how would they know if she's in danger to begin with. In other words, he went there to meet Tsunade with a reason, but now, he can add healing to the list since well, it sounds like she's dying. So again, why did he go there? Even if he does heal him, nobody won't know until he shows up in the battlefield with evidence, so the suspicious for Sasuke continues. Again, Sasuke don't care what they think of him, so what is going on? This is so confusing yet very interesting.

 

Maybe Orochimaru will use Tsunade and the Kages as hostages. Maybe the Alliances will give Saskue the title to save their respected leader. Just guessing.

 

I hope Sasuke does something to Naruto and Sakura goes Sage. Then she could get all that built up angst off her mind by pounding on Sasuke.

 

I just think any SS romantic moments is beating a dead horse. At some point you need to just move on, so Sakura can progress.

 

I still believe if there was any girl/women that Sasuke has feeling for, it is Karin.

 

Edited by NS4Life, 14 June 2013 - 08:10 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

THANK YOU!!!! 
 
humm... not going to lie .. a bit! More because of the words used, which may imply that the sasuke had feelings for her (?) .. (I'm not necessarily saying that he loves her and such) but well we have the databook 3 (funny how other shippers always use the databook 2 as proof of their ship but completely ignore the databook 3 :/) and all the evidence in the manga .. then I shouldn't be worried about it, but it's because Kishi is so unpredictable sometimes ...

You're thinking too much at this point. The problem is that translation hasn't left any questions, therefore it has been answered. Sakura's feelings for Naruto hasn't been answered and left us a question. When something like that left unanswered, then we must continue the manga to see the answer. The worst part is that there's no follow-up for SS, because DB3 don't even mention anything about that last moment for Sasuke, only Naruto. So in short, DB2 got no leads and it's pretty bad that it doesn't have any. Also, the clear translation actually points out that he has no interest for her but thank her as a teammate. So yeah, accept DB2 then you MUST accept DB3. Your choice, haters :kekeke:

 
Maybe Orochimaru will use Tsunade and the Kages as hostages. Maybe the Alliances will give Saskue the title to save their respected leader. Just guessing.
 
I hope Sasuke does something to Naruto and Sakura goes Sage. Then she could get all that built up angst off her mind by pounding on Sasuke.
 
I just think any SS romantic moments is beating a dead horse. At some point you need to just move on, so Sakura can progress.

Pretty much. Sasuke hasn't really talk to Sakura ever since. That's not good. Again, Sasuke came with a purpose and while doing that, Sasuke has been seeing Naruto's newfound power, which caused him to concern. I think Sakura finally picked up suspicious in this chapter while Naruto may already have, but she wasn't looking at them, so pretty much it's like "You may fool everyone, but I'm watching you." Part of me wish Sakura go Katara on Sasuke. The part where after Zuko got accepted to the team but she threatened him that if he manages to betray Aang, she will end him permanently. I do get the feeling before finding out, Juubi may go final form to interrupt. We'll see.

[Atheck]

 

Maybe Orochimaru will use Tsunade and the Kages as hostages. Maybe the Alliances will give Saskue the title to save their respected leader. Just guessing.

 

I hope Sasuke does something to Naruto and Sakura goes Sage. Then she could get all that built up angst off her mind by pounding on Sasuke.

 

I just think any SS romantic moments is beating a dead horse. At some point you need to just move on, so Sakura can progress.

 

Slug Sage mode... It must come to pass. More than anything else its existence is indispensable to Sakura's ascendancy as a legend. Also it would complete the senjutsu animal trinity which was established fifty chapters previously. Who else from the current generation would be more appropriately suited to acquiring these abilities than Sakura?

 

Is Orochimaru even concerned with Sasuke's "desire" to assume the Hokage position? His aiding him was a facade created to gratify Sasuke's quest for the truth of what a shinobi is and prevent himself from being killed. Now that they have separated from each other Orochimaru can begin executing his own dastardly scheme which is probably related to his objective of acquiring the Rinnegan. Actually, that may be what he sought Tsunade out for is her DNA. If he can implant Tsunade's genetic material into Sasuke then a second Rinnegan may be conceived. Since Orochimaru happens to be in possession of a White Zetsu's body which is essentially a replica of Hashirama's genetic composition he should already be capable of using SM and thus he would have all of the attributes related to the "body" of the Sot6P. If he somehow managed to acquire Sasuke's doujutsu then he would be well on his way to becoming the next sage. It actually makes sense when relating this theory to Orochimaru's original intentions of learning all ninjutsu.

 

As for the final part, there will undoubtedly be a resolution to SS because whether you prefer it or not the "pairing" has been readdressed less than one hundred chapters ago. It would not make sense for Kishi to have Sakura reminisce about Sasuke when presented with a question involving romance if it was only going to be discarded and never referred to again. At the very least she will make a statement affirming her support for Naruto and dismissal of Sasuke's self-serving ambitions. What happens afterwards is unknown but it's obvious that she still cherishes his company so that does mean that she assigns some level of worth in his presence if only for platonic reasons like Team 7's temporary reconstitution after it was destroyed by Sasuke's defection at the end of P1.

[六道仙人]

THANK YOU!!!! 

 

humm... not going to lie .. a bit! More because of the words used, which may imply that the sasuke had feelings for her (?) .. (I'm not necessarily saying that he loves her and such) but well we have the databook 3 (funny how other shippers always use the databook 2 as proof of their ship but completely ignore the databook 3 :/) and all the evidence in the manga .. then I shouldn't be worried about it, but it's because Kishi is so unpredictable sometimes ...

 

Honestly, that analysis sounds just a little kinda overthinking to me. Well, I think that person, since he/she a SS fan, is trying to pull to the fandom itself any hints regarding the couple. After all, I guess that it's a thing that ever fandom does (even ourselves, isn't?).

 

Besides, It seems that, also you've stated, they're still ignoring the NS hints in DB3... I wonder why...

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
Honestly, that analysis sounds just a little kinda overthinking to me. Well, I think that person, since he/she a SS fan, is trying to pull to the fandom itself any hints regarding the couple. After all, I guess that it's a thing that ever fandom does (even ourselves, isn't?).
 
Besides, It seems that, also you've stated, they're still ignoring the NS hints in DB3... I wonder why...

You should read my last post here. If you accept DB2, you must accept 3. The sad part is that it is actually much worse, if I were them, I would ignore it entirely.