Interests:Reading and watching Naruto, play on my PS3 playing on my Pokemon games mainly Pokemon X right now I also like watching good Horror films.
Posted 05 August 2015 - 11:36 PM
lol nice post I just wish the NH fans would leave me alone I mean I'm getting one saying have Mewtwo kill Sakura and replace her with Hinata that she (Hinata) could take on all the pokemon even the gods that the pokemon world has.
Stories have rules. Following these rules is a must.
I could talk about everything that's wrong with NH and this ending. But I've done that before many times and I'm tired of it.
Its just no matter what we do or say they will think they were in the right while we were in the wrong and we are just little babies that can't handle it.
Butr like you said I no longer care I have moved on too better anime that for one know how to do a story and not for the money.
Interests:Likes Kentucky Basketball, NaruSaku and Godzilla.
Dislikes Sasuke SasuSaku NaruHina and the Louisville Cardnials.
Posted 05 August 2015 - 11:37 PM
This reminds me of Rick Pitino for some reason. Pitino said that for many months he regrets leaving Kentucky. A few months after he said that's the greatest move he ever made. They are the lyingest liars that ever lied.
Interests:Reading and watching Naruto, play on my PS3 playing on my Pokemon games mainly Pokemon X right now I also like watching good Horror films.
Posted 05 August 2015 - 11:41 PM
This reminds me of Rick Pitino for some reason. Pitino said that for many months he regrets leaving Kentucky. A few months after he said that's the greatest move he ever made. They are the lyingest liars that ever lied.
Well I know if I do meet Kishi I would kick him right in the nuts.........
Wait a sec he had none to begin with my bad man guess I need to find another way to say how bad a writer he is.
I'm going to say this right now as many of you know I'm currently writing a book at the moment, and I'm being completely honest when I say this I already know which characters are going to end up together when everything is said and done.
That is something Kishi will never be able to do nor be able to understand when it comes to a writer's perspective.
The problem is he says he decided on SS at the beginning but "I decided (on the romances) based on how the characters would act as the story went." The interview is contradicting itself. Either he picked them from the beginning or he chose the end pairing from how the story went.
Edited by Bail o' Lies, 05 August 2015 - 11:44 PM.
The problem is he decided SS at the beginning but "I decided (on the romances) based on how the characters would act as the story went." the interview is contradictory. Either he picked them from the beginning or he chose the end pairing from how the story went.
It doesn't make sense, as you said. He is also advacating that stalking, murder attempts, being abusive etc etc is the right thing.
So he is eaither talking BS out of his ass. Really thinks this. Or he is just stupid!
Edited by milan kyuubi, 05 August 2015 - 11:46 PM.
Kishi, it's really not hard to do the most basic romance. Anyone can do it. Even kids shows. You don't have to be cheesy. Look at FMA. Simple yet very satisfying. You really, really, really, don't have to do it so complicated. In fact, you was doing it. Was it Yahagi idea? All those easy simple what could be romance story? Soul Eater did it. Not all the way but not insulting anyone. Kishi, it's not hard. It's really not. You're telling me I get more out of Pokemon? You're telling me I get more out of Bakugan (I think that's what it was called. I remember it was tsundere girl win)? It's not hard, Kishi. It's really not.
And heroine talk again, huh? *looks at heroine interview of 'Hinata, Hinata' talk* Sure. Whatever you say.
I think it is obvious what going on. Ever since the last flopped SP and SJ have realized that nH is a toxic worthless fanbase. So after all those letters fans sent out after kishi spent sometime tearing up SS in the gaiden, they learned or at least hope the SS isn't the same. So while SP will never abandon nH they all started pushing the SS romance along with BS hard now in order to keep this franchise afloat. Which is funny because it was clear SS originally happen because they thought nH was the big money maker and they just had SS happen to put Sakura somewhere.
Edited by Bail o' Lies, 06 August 2015 - 12:04 AM.
Interests:Likes Kentucky Basketball, NaruSaku and Godzilla.
Dislikes Sasuke SasuSaku NaruHina and the Louisville Cardnials.
Posted 06 August 2015 - 12:03 AM
It shows what kind of writer he is when he said "I don't know how SasuSaku happened." I mean you created it, Kishi. You should know how your characters get together.
You know, your characters are poorly written that most of the time, I didn't know where were they going. That's like after Pain Arc, you completely annihilated it.
They may be right but that does not make it right.
Like you said it doesn't justify it.
Oh Yes, definitely. I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying they aren;t wrong in tht Hinata only has N-Naruto-kun in the brain
Well this is apparently a new interview
interview
While you were writing the manga, were the characters’ romances also decided in advance?
They weren't particularly at the top of my mind... I thought I'd let the story take its natural course. I wrote the story while thinking 'Will Sasuke and Sakura end up together, and how will it happen?'. That's because I didn't put Sakura in the position called 'heroine'. Being the protagonist, Naruto was of course a special case - but the others were pretty equal, and I didn't think of them as either main or minor. I decided (on the romances) based on how the characters would act as the story went. Though on the way, I also thought that Naruto and Sakura wouldn't really be right (romantically). One way or another, I decided (on the romances) at a fairly early stage.
So you left it to the characters themselves, is that right?
For me, how should I put it... I try not to be too aware of how (the characters) started their relationships. I get embarassed writing these things, and to be perfectly honest there are also some parts that I don't want to write about. (laugh) In 'The Last', Naruto's love story was written by someone else - and I'm glad that in the movie you can watch things that I couldn't write myself.
Okay I will just take this at face value and nitpick for the hell of it.
If you felt Naruto and Sakura weren't compatible, why did you draw so many scenes of Sakura maybe returning Naruto's feelings? Why would you make her seem like she understands Naruto so much and make her cry for him and vow to protect him, making it just as imporant a goal as bringing her man candy back home? Why would you make no less than 3 parallel couples or potential couples that Resemble the Naruto and Sakura relationship? Lastly did you not think of having Hinata fill that role in Sakura's stead if she and Naruto were your so called intention, and actually draw her to be a bit more physically compatible with Naruto so their kids don't look like aliens drawn on a high?
If Sasuke and Sakura were also your intention why wasn't Sasuke more open with her? Why did he always act like his life was none of her business? Why did he try to kill her no less than 4 times? Why did he not treat her safety as something he actually considers, nay cares about during the fight with Kaguya? Why didn't you have Sakura go with him when he left the village so their relationship would actually be developed at the end of part I and the epilogue? And again why didn't you make their appearances more compatible so that their daughter would not need to pull towards only one end of the gene pool to look decent?
If you were SO embarassed at drawing romance why did you say you wanted to write romance at the start of part II in the first place? Why did Naruto and Sakura have so many moments that would be (ESPECIALLY IN YOUR NATIVE CULTURE) considered romantic attraction? I ask you do brothers and sisters offer to feed each other or hug in front of others, especially in Japan?
I really gotta wonder do SP/SJ not realize every time kishi does an interview he losses more of his fans and he makes the remaining even angrier? Cause what he done like twenty at least in the past few months and after every single one a storm happens on twitter tumbler and 2 chan? Are they not monitoring this or do they feel they have to have kishi do an interview to promote stuff. I don't get it?
Edited by Bail o' Lies, 06 August 2015 - 12:39 AM.
I really gotta wonder do SP/Sj not realize every time kishi does an interview he losses more of his fans and he makes the remaining even angrier? Cause what he done like twenty at least in the past few months and after every single one a storm happens on twitter tumbler and 2 chan? Are they not monitoring this or do they feel they have to have kishi do an interview to promote stuff. I don't get it?
Don't worry the next interview he's going to say something "good" about this ending. That's how it works. He says something bad then Shuiesha or SP go to him; hit him in the head and tell him to say something good then he does. And then he opens his mouth again and says something stupid and the cycle begins again. It's a "never ending" cycle that will eventually end, and one of them will give up.
Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.
While you were writing the manga, were the characters’ romances also decided in advance?
They weren't particularly at the top of my mind... I thought I'd let the story take its natural course. I wrote the story while thinking 'Will Sasuke and Sakura end up together, and how will it happen?'. That's because I didn't put Sakura in the position called 'heroine'. Being the protagonist, Naruto was of course a special case - but the others were pretty equal, and I didn't think of them as either main or minor. I decided (on the romances) based on how the characters would act as the story went. Though on the way, I also thought that Naruto and Sakura wouldn't really be right (romantically). One way or another, I decided (on the romances) at a fairly early stage.
So you left it to the characters themselves, is that right?
For me, how should I put it... I try not to be too aware of how (the characters) started their relationships. I get embarassed writing these things, and to be perfectly honest there are also some parts that I don't want to write about. (laugh) In 'The Last', Naruto's love story was written by someone else - and I'm glad that in the movie you can watch things that I couldn't write myself.
I doubt he decided on the romance in a fairly early stage, this is the guy who had no clue in how SS happened and the guy who pratically made SS worse each time Sakura and Sasuke appeared on the same panel, so either he is stupid or he is just really incompetent, there is also the matter of romances like Shikamaru x Temari ( before, Kishi had said that Shikamaru had no romance plotline) and Choji x Karui ( which came from absolutely nowhere), this interview also contradicts his other interview when he said there was a time where he was thinking about NS, which confirms that no, the romance wasn't decided early on and even if somehow it was, it just goes to show that Kishi is even more incompetent than we thought, because things are even worse for him if he had a fixed idea on his mind and still managed to screw it up
Anyway, did you guys pay attention where he said he didn't wrote the plot for the Last
this confirms the last had a fake advertising in saying Kishi was the writer for the movie, lol
And really, Kishi, if you had such a big problem with romance why the hell you introduced it in the story as a major plot point for a main character (Sakura) no less ? It makes no sense. If he had such a problem with romance then why didn't he just stopped the pairing teases with NS and NH and focused in taking his story out of the mud in the later stages of the series ? Why didn't he just ended the story with an open ending and no definitive pairings and made part 3 about Naruto's ascension to Hokage instead of a part 3 about the protagonists brat ?
You know, your characters are poorly written that most of the time, I didn't know where were they going. That's like after Pain Arc, you completely annihilated it.
When a writer lets his characters ultimately control him, then it's a sign he is not a good writer
A good writer manages to mold the story and the characters the way he wants, he is the boss, not the characters.
Don't worry the next interview he's going to say something "good" about this ending. That's how it works. He says something bad then Shuiesha or SP go to him; hit him in the head and tell him to say something good then he does. And then he opens his mouth again and says something stupid and the cycle begins again. It's a "never ending" cycle that will eventually end, and one of them will give up.
Ah, so this interview was because of the toxic relationship interview. I see. They're idiots.
You know I don't really get why they made Naruto so tired and old. I mean what exactly is the purpose behind it?
I understand that it's their way of saying "Well Naruto is really busy now and his job is affecting him." but really stop and think about it.
What they are effectively saying is that having a dream of doing something or ending up somewhere or whatever your dream is, is pointless and stupid in reality. Because if you achieve it, it's not really what you dreamed in the first place.
Basically your unachieved dream is better than your achieved dream. It's better to have a dream and not achieve it because if you do achieve it; you're going to regret it.
Your dream if you achieve it, will turn into a nightmare.
So the theme of this movie/ending is: Don't whatever you do achieve your dream. Just don't do it.
Who knew all peace will make you much busier than being conflicted with government issues, war potential (higher than now), fighting the balance, and so on. Who knew Gaiden will be that much of a different from the movie.
Everything he claims to be "so busy" with is really just a glorified (not even that glorified) mayor.
The previous Hokages had to deal with not only all of that, but as mentioned, freaking wars and differing politics between villages with their own thoughts and ideas, and yet despite all of that, they still managed to make personal time for the villagers and people close to them (Tsunade even having Sakura as a personal apprentice, and Hiruzen was a freaking old man at the start of the story when he's shown to make time to mingle with the villagers and with Naruto himself). If Naruto is so freaking busy and exhausted just doing the menial stuff, there is absolutely no way he could hack it as Hokage during an actual crisis of some sort, whether it be limited just to Konoha (their own stock market crash or something) or another world war, when countless lives would truly hang in the balance in his hands and the people will be looking to him for relief, morale, etc.
Persona 5 hype 
