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[The Doctor forever]

You know this may not be Team4star but I still found this funny.

 

[VanitasDS76491]

Uh boy, I simply just... 
Listen, if you are saying Sasuke doesn't work in a normal relationship you just proved everyone's point here, why did he married Sakura?? why in god's name did he concived a child with her? To restore his own clan? Then, why doesn't he trains her? Why is he never at home despite the only thing he's doing is wander around searching for criminal activity, why can't he just take a break and be in his flipping home for a change?
I'll tell you why, because that is not who he is, and before you tell me that he always prioritzied the mission or his own agenda, just look at all the times he did things that will cause problems to his own archivements, saving Naruto against Haku, offering the Heaven scroll to Orochimaru in the Forest of Death, telling Naruto to rescue Sakura and ran away in order to escape from Gaara, essentially sacrificing himself.
Notice something about this moments? They were all in part 1, looong before Sasuke's character started to degrade and I'm not talking about choosing revenge over his comrades, just for you know. Towards the end of the manga the only person Sasuke was still "friends" with was Naruto, he says so himself until Kishi threw everything under the bus just so he could make SS and NH canon.
My point being Sasuke knew full well the consequences of becoming a husband and a father, if he did it knewing he was not up to the task, it's still abusive even if he himself feels sorry for it, because he knew full well what he was doing, unless Sakura raped him or some kitten I don't know.
Regardless of Sasuke's whole character in Bourto and most of shippuden I think this describes it best:

Nice using bojack horseman in that example cause that show is eye opening and that quote works so well with Naruto. I'd like to see naruto tackle some bojack issues like the herb episode where herb won't forgive bojack for abandoning him.

[VanitasDS76491]

You know this may not be Team4star but I still found this funny.
 

I saw that and cell hit every point wrong with Naruto on the head with Naruto being gay for sasuke.

[LuckyChi7]

I opened up Youtube on a whim, and saw this on my recommended page.. it was definitely interesting and makes me agree in a lot of way since it makes sense for the story  : 

 

Edited by LuckyChi7, 03 September 2017 - 03:17 PM.

[Kagomaru]

If only Kishimoto went with this plot.

[ThroughWithLove]

I opened up Youtube on a whim, and saw this on my recommended page.. it was definitely interesting and makes me agree in a lot of way since it makes sense for the story  : 
 

I enjoyed that! Thanks for posting it!

[LuckyChi7]

I enjoyed that! Thanks for posting it!

 

 

No problem!!

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

I opened up Youtube on a whim, and saw this on my recommended page.. it was definitely interesting and makes me agree in a lot of way since it makes sense for the story  : 
 

Just finished watching... And that guy told a better Naruto the last story than Kishimoto did.

[ThroughWithLove]

The one thing I did not care for in that video is his mention of an excerpt in a post-series Sakura novel where Tsunade tells Sakura that her and Naruto would not be good together due to their headstrong personalities. The video creator has a specific video on that excerpt here:

 

 

What an asinine suggestion. Here we've seen Naruto and Sakura bond together throughout the entire 700 chapter manga and have never once seen that kind of interaction between them, yet we're supposed to believe a romantic relationship be different?

Edited by ThroughWithLove, 03 September 2017 - 05:31 PM.

[LuckyChi7]

The one thing I did not care for in that video is his mention of an excerpt in a post-series Sakura novel where Tsunade tells Sakura that her and Naruto would not be good together due to their headstrong personalities. The video creator has a specific video on that excerpt here:
 

 
What an asinine suggestion. Here we've seen Naruto and Sakura bond together throughout the entire 700 chapter manga and have never once seen that kind of interaction between them, yet we're supposed to believe a romantic relationship be different?

I can complete agree with that statement!

[ThroughWithLove]

Decided to scroll through the comments on the "What if Naruto Married Sakura" video . . . and wow. Complete and utter koolaid drinking cancer.

 

 

@Analyzer

Tsunade actually kind of makes a good point? I would not take it so far to mean they won't be good together, more that they are more likely to have fights since they both have that Kushina aspect There are certainly couples out there that function well with that dynamic, it's really all about putting in the investment and getting through those obstacles and conflicts. 

 

 

Yeah . . . we've seen Naruto and Sakura's relationship fleshed out throughout a 700 chapter manga, so I'm gonna have to call bollocks on Tsunade's out of character assessment. Sounds like something I'd stumble across in a random fanfic. Not to mention that she is implying that a relationship where one person is gone all the time is somehow better.

Edited by ThroughWithLove, 03 September 2017 - 11:55 PM.

[Bail o' Lies]

That comment in that novel were clearly another way they tried to dismiss NS by using Tsunade. Remember she was Hokage throughout most of the story (until she was replaced by Kakashi for the last, and Naruto considered her useless in Kakashi's novel), she was Sakura teacher, and the closest thing Naruto had to a material/grandmother figure. So it was pretty much Sakura's teacher, and Naruto's Grandmother saying they wouldn't worked out, also there was some comment about big breast Tsunade made as well in that.

 

As for the excuse itself about both of them being to headstrong to work. Unlike the two other pairings we have seen them interact in causal circumstances before. Sakura has always been able to cowed Naruto into obedience before, I don't see how them dating would change that. In fact she probably have him more wrap around her little finger then before.

 

As for those "Better" couples; how did they turn out? Oh right, one has a husband that outright refused to see his family for over a decade, and the other spends all his time working which his son does nothing but complain & lash out about.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 05 September 2017 - 06:45 AM.

[Kagomaru]

That comment in that novel were clearly another way they tired to dismiss NS by using Tsunade. Remember she was Hokage throughout most of the story (until she was replaced by Kakashi for the last, and Naruto considered her useless in Kakashi's novel), she was Sakura teacher, and the closest thing Naruto had to a material/grandmother figure. So it was pretty much Sakura's teacher, and Naruto's Grandmother saying they wouldn't worked out, also there was some comment about big breast Tsunade made as well in that.

 

As for the excuse itself about both of them being to headstrong to work. Unlike the two other pairings we have seen them interact in causal circumstances before. Sakura has always been able to cowed Naruto into obedience before, I don't see how them dating would change that. In fact she probably have him more wrap around her little finger then before.

 

As for those "Better" couples; how did they turn out? Oh right, one has a husband that outfight refused to see his family for over a decade, and the other spend all his time working that his son does nothing but complain & lash out.

Exactly.  We see clearly that Naruto and Sakura get along extremely well, with Naruto typically acquiescing to Sakura when he knows that he's acting up. And no, despite popular belief, the dynamics of a relationship do not magically pull a 180 when a friendship transitions into a romance.  If you believe that, you haven't been in a relationship.

Edited by Kagomaru, 04 September 2017 - 01:03 AM.

[Bail o' Lies]

....Sorry just recalling Chapter 700, the gaiden, the movie, the manga, and the anime where anytime: Fathers, Naruto, Hokage, Ninja, Family, Ramen, Trains, The Mailing System, Video Games, Card Games, Playground Games, Missions, School, Movies, Box Lunches, His Mother, Salad, Eating Competitions, and so on are brought up all Bolt does is start complaining about his kitten father calling him a kitten old man and lashes out especially if "His kitten failure of a Hokage old man" father is present.

 

Granted he does have other thing on his mind; like constantly trying to be cool and failing. Which is the main reason he wanted Sasuke to train him. Since he thought Sasuke was cool. Also hamburgers.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 04 September 2017 - 01:27 AM.

[ThroughWithLove]

Two things. (1) The whole "stays at work all the time" crap probably wouldn't be an issue once Sakura got done slapping Naruto around for not exercising the most basic solution to this asinine problem. I don't ever see that being an issue in light of Sakura's personality.  (2) Stop saying irregardless. 

Edited by ThroughWithLove, 04 September 2017 - 01:21 AM.

[Kagomaru]

Two things. (1) The whole "stays at work all the time" crap probably wouldn't be an issue once Sakura got done slapping Naruto around for not exercising the most basic solution to this asinine problem. I don't ever see that being an issue in light of Sakura's personality.  (2) Stop saying irregardless. 

Wait, she's using "irregardless" in a sentence?

 

(The English Major in me facepalms in dismay)

 

...That is *not* a real word.

Edited by Kagomaru, 04 September 2017 - 01:51 AM.

[ThroughWithLove]

 

I've never been a fan of the fanon view of Naruto being "slapped around" physically or metaphorically as if he's a man child. Removing it from storybook's ways of fixing things, I'd imagine it would be argued out. 

 

I also don't see that as addressing the problem, because Naruto's work is extremely important,  and it changes nothing on how demanding the work is. Irregardless, at most, this would solve only part of the problem, as a lot of it is also the son's understanding of the 

 

Naruto getting slapped around by Sakura is canon. Wasn't aware you didn't like the canon. Explains a lot really.

 

Naruto can be in a thousand places at once, process years of information in a few hours fueled by nothing but a bowl of ramen, has enough chakra to energize an entire army of shinobi and is certainly in the position to exercise common sense and hire interns. Nope. Nothing you've ever said has persuasively justified the stupidity of Naruto's paperwork being too demanding. Sorry. Watching Sakura point all of this out in her tsundere fashion would be hilarious

[Bail o' Lies]

Wait, she's using "irregardless" in a sentence.

 

(The English Major in me facepalms in dismay)

 

...That is *not* a real word.

"Irregardless is a word commonly used in place of regardless or irrespective, which has caused controversy since the early twentieth century, though the word appeared in print as early as 1795. Most dictionaries list it as nonstandard or incorrect usage, and recommend that "regardless" should be used instead."

 

So in another attempt to sound smarter then us. She also once again comes off as a smug elites idiot that thinks she smarter then she actually is.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 04 September 2017 - 01:54 AM.

[ThroughWithLove]

 

First part is true, and the Manga aspects never bothered me and are funny, though it could get flanderized in silliness in the anime, though I stand by my remarks that I would not particularly enjoy that aspect as adults, which is what I should have clarified, because Naruto isn't a child anymore. 

 

Kushina didn't lose her hot blooded tsundere qualities as an adult. Not sure why Sakura should. Sakura, Bulma (DBZ), Kaoru (Rurouni Kenshin), Rukia (Bleach), Nami (One Piece), Kagome (Inuyasha), ChiChi (DBZ), Mine (Akame ga Kill), Meryl (Trigun), Ryuko (Kill la Kill), Rin (Fate/Stay Night), Anna (Shaman King), Amy (Sonic the Hedgehog). I could go on and on and on and on and on. The "beat up the male lead" schtik is very very very very common in this industry and is never taken seriously. The only time I've ever heard anyone actually try and bash a tsundere character for having tsundere qualities (including beating up the male lead) is in Naruto and only for self-serving "pairing war" nonsense reasons.  It was hilarious reading these very same nonsense outrages as I looked at the comments in that "What if Naruto married Sakura" video. A lot of these very same people who didn't utter a word at any of the former examples, particularly Kagome's endless sit commands.

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not convinced by your counter argument that this would just happen. 

 

That's your prerogative. At the same time, I don't buy this subplot. Never have. Never will. And from what I've seen, I'm far from alone in this criticism.

 

 

This makes no sense. I.E., I am using a word not recommended to be utilized, the word irregardless. If I were trying to sound smarter, I would be heedful and use the word regardless, as it has correct denotation for the diction I am employing.

 

Usually, I wouldn't have said anything, but you tend to make it a point for others to use proper diction . . . so it only makes sense not to use a word that literally makes no sense as a result of the "ir" and the "less."

Edited by ThroughWithLove, 04 September 2017 - 04:04 AM.

[ultranx]

 

"Irregardless is a word commonly used in place of regardless or irrespective, which has caused controversy since the early twentieth century, though the word appeared in print as early as 1795. Most dictionaries list it as nonstandard or incorrect usage, and recommend that "regardless" should be used instead."

 

So in another attempt to sound smarter then us. She also once again comes off as a smug elites idiot that thinks she smarter then she actually is.

 

you'd think after tricksie got after him/her for acting like that, analyzer would stop. but nope,still being the same elitest. anyways back to web browsing 'runs off into distance'

Edited by ultranx, 04 September 2017 - 04:32 AM.