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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:18 PM

QUOTE (Chucky-kun @ Jan 4 2013, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The truth of the matter is also that the NH fan base has grown to be a major part of the readers of naruto and kishi wants them reading til the very end.

I also think that what Kishi is doing for them. He wants from them to read til the very end and not make them disinterested anymore. But, it could be that he planned that way for Hinata and not for them.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:20 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Jan 5 2013, 12:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I also think that what Kishi is doing for them. He wants from them to read til the very end and not make them disinterested anymore. But, it could be that he planned that way for Hinata and not for them.

@ James: Good to have you back this soon James XD

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:23 PM

QUOTE (Chucky-kun @ Jan 4 2013, 04:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've said this before but

Who needs plot when you have fanservice kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

Exactly laugh.gif

#2484 James S Cassidy

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:25 PM

QUOTE (Canadian_DJ @ Jan 4 2013, 06:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Really you were seriously gonna leave? wow close one...man back in my lurker days i used to love reading your posts and i really looked up you, you were one of the few that motivated me.

Hey you betta count me as one of the people who wanted you back! rolleyes.gif Im just so busy with my studies, hardly had time to actually persuay you in staying.Bu luckily you are.


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Apparently, a lot of people were sad of me leaving. I assure you I wasn't going to leave permanently. Just till things died down. We already have enough people cause problems and I was afraid to overstep my boundaries, but things seems to be getting back to normal.

QUOTE (Chucky-kun @ Jan 4 2013, 05:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The truth of the matter is also that the NH fan base has grown to be a major part of the readers of naruto and kishi wants them reading til the very end.


I hope that isn't the only reason. I mean, how are the SS fans still reading if SS has been shut down hard or are they not reading period? As much as I like NS I don't want shipping choice to alter the manga that way. I want the manga to flow properly and give good hints.

It's just we want ours to be canon and so do the NH fans, but what I am trying to think is where is Kishi going? If NH were to be canon, why didn't he do it at the Hinata confession? Likewise with the Sakura confession. Not like he didn't have the chance to do it then. Same with SS, why not make it canon when he had the chance to?

I think he already knows what the ending is, but he wrote himself into a corner and is now trying to play catch up with everything else. Would explain why everything feels rushed.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 04 January 2013 - 01:28 PM.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:28 PM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Jan 5 2013, 12:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
*Bro-hug*

Apparently, a lot of people were sad of me leaving. I assure you I wasn't going to leave permanently. Just till things died down. We already have enough people cause problems and I was afraid to overstep my boundaries, but things seems to be getting back to normal.



I hope that isn't the only reason. I mean, how are the SS fans still reading if SS has been shut down hard or are they not reading period? As much as I lie NS I don't want shipping choice to alter the manga that way. I want the manga to flow properly and give good hints.

It's just we want ours to be canon and so the NH fans, but what I am trying to think where is Kishi going? If NH were to be canon, why didn't he do it at the Hinata confession? Likewise with the Sakura confession. Not like he didn't have the chance to do it then.

I think he already knows what the ending is, but he wrote himself into a corner and is now trying to play catch up with everything else. Would explain why everything feels rushed.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:35 PM

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Diggy diggy hole.


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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:38 PM

[quote name='James S Cassidy' date='Jan 4 2013, 01:25 PM' post='427321']
*Bro-hug*

Apparently, a lot of people were sad of me leaving. I assure you I wasn't going to leave permanently. Just till things died down. We already have enough people cause problems and I was afraid to overstep my boundaries, but things seems to be getting back to normal.



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*Bro-hugs back*

Yeah, we all feel over-protective sometimes we're only human.

Now this is what i call a debate thread! nice and friendly!

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:48 PM

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Now this is what i call a debate thread! nice and friendly!

That's because we share the same views and are commending and respecting each other.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:48 PM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 4 2013, 03:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thing is, he already forced the recent NH moment on us. How do you think it led up to Naruto & Hinata holding hands? Neji had to die and Naruto had to look like a hopeless baby, and out of nowhere pops heroine Hinata. If that doesn't scream force then I don't know what will. NH being forced on us is a possibility.

I acknowledge that he's capable of forcing NH in the end, but for the moment, it feels like he's just pandering to Hinata fans while he still can. I mean, he gives us a completely forced moment for Hinata where she accomplishes everything she said she was going to do on 573, and the chapter is released on her birthday - of all days. The only way to know is to wait and see what he does with this arc. I'm crossing my fingers that he's just throwing a bone to her fanbase, and that moving forward, things will be back on track. At least, what we consider "back on track". wink.gif




James S Cassidy, that was a brilliant post! I ended up saving it in Word. I don't want it to get lost in the sea of comments.
Albeit possibly temporary, (I hope not), it's great to see you back! You always put a lot of thought into your comments, and I enjoy reading every time! happy.gif

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 02:11 PM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Jan 4 2013, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
*Bro-hug*

Apparently, a lot of people were sad of me leaving. I assure you I wasn't going to leave permanently. Just till things died down. We already have enough people cause problems and I was afraid to overstep my boundaries, but things seems to be getting back to normal.



I hope that isn't the only reason. I mean, how are the SS fans still reading if SS has been shut down hard or are they not reading period? As much as I like NS I don't want shipping choice to alter the manga that way. I want the manga to flow properly and give good hints.

It's just we want ours to be canon and so do the NH fans, but what I am trying to think is where is Kishi going? If NH were to be canon, why didn't he do it at the Hinata confession? Likewise with the Sakura confession. Not like he didn't have the chance to do it then. Same with SS, why not make it canon when he had the chance to?

I think he already knows what the ending is, but he wrote himself into a corner and is now trying to play catch up with everything else. Would explain why everything feels rushed.

I think most of SS fans are hoping that if NH ever become canon, it means that SS might have a chance. But we all know that, if by any chance, NH became canon, it doesn't mean that SS would happen.


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Posted 04 January 2013 - 02:13 PM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Jan 4 2013, 02:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hope that isn't the only reason. I mean, how are the SS fans still reading if SS has been shut down hard or are they not reading period? As much as I like NS I don't want shipping choice to alter the manga that way. I want the manga to flow properly and give good hints.

It's just we want ours to be canon and so do the NH fans, but what I am trying to think is where is Kishi going? If NH were to be canon, why didn't he do it at the Hinata confession? Likewise with the Sakura confession. Not like he didn't have the chance to do it then. Same with SS, why not make it canon when he had the chance to?

I think he already knows what the ending is, but he wrote himself into a corner and is now trying to play catch up with everything else. Would explain why everything feels rushed.

The bolded:
Do you mean that it could be also us, he wants to keep reading and then in the end hes making NH and SS canon and we have been the ones he just wanted not to drop manga till the end?

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 02:23 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Jan 4 2013, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The bolded:
Do you mean that it could be also us, he wants to keep reading and then in the end hes making NH and SS canon and we have been the ones he just wanted not to drop manga till the end?

By what NS has packed till now, I don't think so. If he was holding this idea, it would be for the sake of the others.
If I was him, I really would want to throw some bones to them.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 02:28 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Jan 4 2013, 07:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The bolded:
Do you mean that it could be also us, he wants to keep reading and then in the end hes making NH and SS canon and we have been the ones he just wanted not to drop manga till the end?


No, what I mean is if it is all for fan catering, why not just make one or more of the pairings canon by now?

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Jan 4 2013, 06:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
James S Cassidy, that was a brilliant post! I ended up saving it in Word. I don't it to get lost in the sea of comments.
Albeit possibly temporary, (I hope not), it's great to see you back! You always put a lot of thought into your comments, and I enjoy reading every time! happy.gif


Thanks.

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Edited by James S Cassidy, 04 January 2013 - 02:37 PM.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 02:34 PM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Jan 4 2013, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, what I mean is if it is all for fan catering, why not just make one or more of the pairings canon by now?

I specifically don't know exactly, but the first thing it comes to my mind is that he don't want the other pairing fans, who are reading the manga for the sake of their favorite pairing to see if it happens or not, to lose interest in the manga. You can say also that he makes fan services now just to please and move on for future purposes with the decided paring.

Edited by T XD, 04 January 2013 - 02:36 PM.


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Posted 04 January 2013 - 02:48 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Jan 4 2013, 03:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think most of SS fans are hoping that if NH ever become canon, it means that SS might have a chance. But we all know that, if by any chance, NH became canon, it doesn't mean that SS would happen.

I think it's more like the other way around. laugh.gif

If he can make SS happen, he'll probably make NH happen as well. After all, SS is a much farther stretch than NH, at least in IMO.

James S Cassidy, I will read your entire post later, I just scanned through it. Wow, wonder how long it took to write that essaypost. But you're among my fav posters on this forum, you deserve a medal. : D

Edited by sushi., 04 January 2013 - 02:48 PM.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 03:02 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Jan 4 2013, 07:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I specifically don't know exactly, but the first thing it comes to my mind is that he don't want the other pairing fans, who are reading the manga for the sake of their favorite pairing to see if it happens or not, to lose interest in the manga. You can say also that he makes fan services now just to please and move on for future purposes with the decided paring.


Exactly. See the answers are there, just need to ask the right questions.

It's not fan catering or making sure none of the fans are pissed off cause their pairing didn't happen. It's about giving the fans a satisfying end to what they want. If NS happened much sooner, you would have the NH fans and the SS fan screaming "WTF?" and a whole bigger mess. We know that if NH and SS were the intended pairing, things would have been done much differently.

Why go through all this trouble if the intended pairing was something different? It doesn't make sense. It can't be fan catering because NH would have been canon already 100-200 chapters ago and Sasuke would have been saved by now and be in love with Sakura.

What Kishimoto is trying to do is give all the final pairings a final salute. Giving them one last run and one last moment before he ends it with NS. It is by far the only explanation that makes sense and explain a lot of what is happening. NH fans will disagree with me, but even they can not answer why NH didn't happen before or ever will happen. All they got is this moment to work with.

It would also explain why SS is saved for last as one last hurdle to get over.

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 4 2013, 07:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
James S Cassidy, I will read your entire post later, I just scanned through it. Wow, wonder how long it took to write that essaypost. But you're among my fav posters on this forum, you deserve a medal. : D


Thanks, but you all give me way too much credit. I am no better or worse than the next person on this forum. Yeah, I contribute, but this is a team effort. We're all in this together.

If it wasn't for RomanceGirl, I would not have had the inspiration to have written it. She deserves the medal, not me. That, plus another very special person who has been making me smile a lot lately.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 04 January 2013 - 03:16 PM.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 03:15 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 4 2013, 05:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it's more like the other way around. laugh.gif

If he can make SS happen, he'll probably make NH happen as well. After all, SS is a much farther stretch than NH, at least in IMO.

James S Cassidy, I will read your entire post later, I just scanned through it. Wow, wonder how long it took to write that essaypost. But you're among my fav posters on this forum, you deserve a medal. : D

Yeah, it could be that way too laugh.gif

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Jan 4 2013, 06:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Exactly. See the answers are there, just need to ask the right questions.

It's not fan catering or making sure none of the fans are pissed off cause their pairing didn't happen. It's about giving the fans a satisfying end to what they want. If NS happened much sooner, you would have the NH fans and the SS fan screaming "WTF?" and a whole bigger mess. We know that if NH and SS were the intended pairing, things would have been done much differently.

Why go through all this trouble if the intended pairing was something different? It doesn't make sense. It can't be fan catering because NH would have been canon already 100-200 chapters ago and Sasuke would have been saved by now and be in love with Sakura.

What Kishimoto is trying to do is give all the final pairings a final salute. Giving them one last run and one last moment before he ends it with NS. It is by far the only explanation that makes sense and explain a lot of what is happening. NH fans will disagree with me, but even they can not answer why NH didn't happen before or ever will happen. All they got is this moment to work with.

It would also explain why SS is saved for last as one last hurdle to get over.

Exactly how I think Kishi is setting up his plan for fan services.

But, that doesn't mean we won't see NH moments or SS moments and interactions from them in the future chapters. Everyone should expect this, really. Plus, that doesn't mean a threat to NS every time we see Naruto and Hinata talking and same goes to Sasuke and Sakura ( cause in the reunion, we'll definitely see them talking together or something). The most high interaction between Naruto and Hinata has been done as we saw in ch.615, cause what more else can Naruto do with her than holding her hand.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 03:16 PM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Jan 4 2013, 07:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Exactly. See the answers are there, just need to ask the right questions.

It's not fan catering or making sure none of the fans are pissed off cause their pairing didn't happen. It's about giving the fans a satisfying end to what they want. If NS happened much sooner, you would have the NH fans and the SS fan screaming "WTF?" and a whole bigger mess. We know that if NH and SS were the intended pairing, things would have been done much differently.

Why go through all this trouble if the intended pairing was something different? It doesn't make sense. It can't be fan catering because NH would have been canon already 100-200 chapters ago and Sasuke would have been saved by now and be in love with Sakura.

What Kishimoto is trying to do is give all the final pairings a final salute. Giving them one last run and one last moment before he ends it with NS. It is by far the only explanation that makes sense and explain a lot of what is happening. NH fans will disagree with me, but even they can not answer why NH didn't happen before or ever will happen. All they got is this moment to work with.

It would also explain why SS is saved for last as one last hurdle to get over.



Thanks, but you all give me way too much credit. I am no better or worse than the next person on this forum. Yeah, I contribute, but this is a team effort. We're all in this together.

If it wasn't for RomanceGirl, I would not have had the inspiration to have written it. She deserve the medal, not me. That, plus another very special person who has been making me smile a lot lately.


It other words to put it more simple. Since the story is almost reaching the finish line, Kishi is going to throw the opposite fans one final bone before he finishes it with his pairing of choice.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 03:31 PM

Alright, so this video is intended for the Brony fandom of My Little Pony, but it reminded me of what's going on in our fandom right now.



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