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[Quinny52]

The last time Naruto and Sakura were seen together was when they'd got back to Konoha, Naruto was at Ichiraku's, and Sakura had run there to tell him that Tsunade was finally awake.

What's interesting about this scene is that the two appear to mimic eachother's mannerisms and gestures. When Naruto excitedly says "What?! Tsunade Baa-Chan is awake?!" (or similar to that), Sakura responds (after catching her breath) by smiling/grinning in a similar way that Naruto often does. Naruto then shouts out a "Hell yeah!!" and performs an arm gesture that Sakura has done a few times, and Kushina has used it once as well. I'm not sure what it is, but it's very similar to the 'Bras d'honneur' or 'the Arm' (although it wasn't used in an insulting manner, more like an expression of 'good luck' or 'fight on').

It was one of the first things I noticed in that chapter (I think it was 490-491), because I couldn't remember any other ocassion where Sakura had smiled like that, or where Naruto had used that particular gesture.

[ciardha]

Oh right, I remember that, it was cute. People have often pointed out how Naruto and Sakura started mirroring each other's gestures even before that particular incident. I really hate how Kishi is deliberatly avoiding interactions between them but it could be because they don't need any more 'couple development' and the next time they meet it could result in something important so he wants to keep us on our toes.

They were already doing way back in the early part of part 1- shouting at Kakashi for being late, etc...

[Blazing CobaltX]

The last time Naruto and Sakura were seen together was when they'd got back to Konoha, Naruto was at Ichiraku's, and Sakura had run there to tell him that Tsunade was finally awake.

What's interesting about this scene is that the two appear to mimic eachother's mannerisms and gestures. When Naruto excitedly says "What?! Tsunade Baa-Chan is awake?!" (or similar to that), Sakura responds (after catching her breath) by smiling/grinning in a similar way that Naruto often does. Naruto then shouts out a "Hell yeah!!" and performs an arm gesture that Sakura has done a few times, and Kushina has used it once as well. I'm not sure what it is, but it's very similar to the 'Bras d'honneur' or 'the Arm' (although it wasn't used in an insulting manner, more like an expression of 'good luck' or 'fight on').

It was one of the first things I noticed in that chapter (I think it was 490-491), because I couldn't remember any other ocassion where Sakura had smiled like that, or where Naruto had used that particular gesture.

Oh you're right! I just read the chapter again and I saw it too.

Edited by Blazing CobaltX, 09 April 2011 - 01:33 PM.

[ahmed]

Whoa. Chill. It's okay. We all know the way Pieriot is (still can't spell ). They can do it. Whatev really. *shrug* The manga is the only thing that's canon so I tend to ignore anything that they throw at us. Even if it's NaruSaku, I just enjoy it. Never take it seriously.

it is not waht i was thinking about
i was thinking if they realy was want to make some changes
they will remove Sakura's Blushes not Naruto(not important )
because really they are alot of Evidence after pain arc that prove naruto still love sakura much
but sakura blushes is so important here
that what i am thinking about:by mind if they was wanting a big change they will do what i said
the problem about me:that i love anime much and even may be more than the manga
i am not talking about the canon

[The Tax-Man]

it is not waht i was thinking about
i was thinking if they realy was want to make some changes
they will remove Sakura's Blushes not Naruto(not important )
because really they are alot of Evidence after pain arc that prove naruto still love sakura much
but sakura blushes is so important here
that what i am thinking about:by mind if they was wanting a big change they will do what i said
the problem about me:that i love anime much and even may be more than the manga
i am not talking about the canon

Huh?

[theorangehokage]

^^^^

ditto that.. say wha?~ bro?

[catsi563]

he basically wants to know if the anime team would remove Sakuras blushing as hers was more important then Narutos.

the answer as we know of course is that they didnt and actualy emphasized her reactions better in animation.

[The Tax-Man]

Oh...I see. This guy makes it hard to understand. Really. It gets irrelevant quick and the breaks are, like, 'huh'?

[Quinny52]

^ Well it is understandable, he is from Egypt afterall (or at least thay's what it says on his profile).

@Kim - Another thing that I've noticed (and mentioned a few time) is that whenever Naruto and Sakura are separated from eachother for extended periods of time, things appear to take a step forward when they're finally reunited. Moreso over the course of part 2, where Sakura's view on things was emphasised. So, I wouldn't be worried too much about the lack of interaction, as the next time they meet again might just give us a little something more to think about. And that reunion might not be far away, considering the end of the last chapter.

[maliousdei]

anyone else think the new opening has anything to do with the pairings? it is called "lovers" after all.

i know it does nothing to change the overall result mind you, but i am curious.

Edited by maliousdei, 10 April 2011 - 12:46 AM.

[Darth Krypt]

^ Well it is understandable, he is from Egypt afterall (or at least thay's what it says on his profile).

@Kim - Another thing that I've noticed (and mentioned a few time) is that whenever Naruto and Sakura are separated from eachother for extended periods of time, things appear to take a step forward when they're finally reunited. Moreso over the course of part 2, where Sakura's view on things was emphasised. So, I wouldn't be worried too much about the lack of interaction, as the next time they meet again might just give us a little something more to think about. And that reunion might not be far away, considering the end of the last chapter.

Well "extended periods of time" was only the time skip right? Oh are you talking about the invasion of Konoha too where she begged Naruto to come back? I think you're kinda right. The war is to protect Naruto too so naturally Sakura would be worried not being able to see him the whole time and wondering whether he's alright. When she finally sees him she'll be relieved. But do you think with the intensity of a war, there would be the right time to settle their feelings considering the chaos around them? I think we have to wait until after the war and that would include the Naruto/Sasuke battle. After all that is done, everything would be clearer and resolved, it would be easier for them to have a proper heart-to-heart talk without any interruptions.

anyone else think the new opening has anything to do with the pairings? it is called "lovers" after all.

i know it does nothing to change the overall result mind you, but i am curious.

I think the new opening represents Sakura's feelings and how she is in love with both Sakura and Naruto. I need to explain this with spoilers so.....

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In the manga Naruto has formed his resolve to fight Sasuke and said that both of them would die together. He figured that's the only way to save Sasuke. Sakura was present when he said that hence that would really make her heartbroken hearing that two people she loves would die. In the opening you can see Sakura crying while Naruto and Sasuke facing off behind her. Then the floating rock they are on breaks. I think the floating rock represents Sakura's heart. So LOVERS would refer to the love triangle between team 7.

[pharix]

The last time Naruto and Sakura were seen together was when they'd got back to Konoha, Naruto was at Ichiraku's, and Sakura had run there to tell him that Tsunade was finally awake.

What's interesting about this scene is that the two appear to mimic eachother's mannerisms and gestures. When Naruto excitedly says "What?! Tsunade Baa-Chan is awake?!" (or similar to that), Sakura responds (after catching her breath) by smiling/grinning in a similar way that Naruto often does. Naruto then shouts out a "Hell yeah!!" and performs an arm gesture that Sakura has done a few times, and Kushina has used it once as well. I'm not sure what it is, but it's very similar to the 'Bras d'honneur' or 'the Arm' (although it wasn't used in an insulting manner, more like an expression of 'good luck' or 'fight on').

It was one of the first things I noticed in that chapter (I think it was 490-491), because I couldn't remember any other ocassion where Sakura had smiled like that, or where Naruto had used that particular gesture.

I noticed that too, first thought was "no way that's just a coincidence"

[ciardha]

The last time Naruto and Sakura were seen together was when they'd got back to Konoha, Naruto was at Ichiraku's, and Sakura had run there to tell him that Tsunade was finally awake.

What's interesting about this scene is that the two appear to mimic eachother's mannerisms and gestures. When Naruto excitedly says "What?! Tsunade Baa-Chan is awake?!" (or similar to that), Sakura responds (after catching her breath) by smiling/grinning in a similar way that Naruto often does. Naruto then shouts out a "Hell yeah!!" and performs an arm gesture that Sakura has done a few times, and Kushina has used it once as well. I'm not sure what it is, but it's very similar to the 'Bras d'honneur' or 'the Arm' (although it wasn't used in an insulting manner, more like an expression of 'good luck' or 'fight on').

It was one of the first things I noticed in that chapter (I think it was 490-491), because I couldn't remember any other ocassion where Sakura had smiled like that, or where Naruto had used that particular gesture.

Sakura's gesture is a Japanese nonverbal gesture associated with the phrase "ganbatte ne!" (and the other enthusiastic variants ) It is roughly comparable "Go for it" or even just enthusiastic affirmatives like "Yatta!" "Yoshu!"(silent u so it sounds like yosh). Kishimoto is showing they are becoming so emotionally intimately close they are unconsciously using each others quirks with each other (something couples deeply in love tend to do.

Real world example --Click here to view--

It's kind of fun watching interviews with John and Yoko over time, because they gradually start echoing each other even in public (interviews and performances) - Yoko picks up on John's style of looking very intensely (but not hostilely) in the interviewer's eyes. In the early years of their marriage (like during the famous honeymoon bed-in for peace) she was still doing the traditional Japanese female style of conversational interacting in interviews- no more that brief direct eye contact, tending to keep her head slightly lowered, spoken voice soft (this despite being a fluent speaker of English and already having spent more years in the west than Japan, and already famous in the avant-garde world for her musical compositions with strong vocal experimentation) But by 1971 she is speaking more boldly and looking people in the eyes just like John. John picks up on Yoko's musical style, and her more subtle style of humor.

[crazyefra]

So I've been seeing some comments saying the love "triangle" was reset (Naruto -> Sakura -> Sasuke). Is it really the case or is it just Anti big 3 "propaganda".

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[hothead]

@crazyefera
You know, I have no idea what you mean when you say that the love triangle was reset, I mean I thought it was like this now?
Naruto<->Sakura->Sasuke

[crazyefra]

Well, I mean that the pairings (NH, SS, NS) have been reset to their one-sidedness (only SS and NH have always been one-sided).

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[Living Lavish]

Well, I mean that the pairings (NH, SS, NS) have been reset to their one-sidedness (only SS and NH have always been one-sided).

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your still confusing everybody.
its like this Naruto<>Sakura->Sasuke. SS and NH have always been one sided.

[ciardha]

Even in part 1 it was:

Sakura crushes (by her own words she admits it's a crush) on Sasuke, he can't stand her crushing on him, totally uninterested in her. Totally one sided
Naruto loves Sakura and tries to fight past Sakura's crush on Sasuke to get her to like him (often in the wrong way), Sakura is profoundly irritated at Naruto's stupidity and pervertness, and total lack of manners, but she admires his fierce determination and heroics, and is subconsciously falling for him. Semi-hidden mutual attraction between Naruto and Sakura.

In part 2 it's

Sasuke has lost even the tiny feelings of friendship or team mate bond he had with Sakura. Sakura has long ago let go of her romantic fantasies of Sasuke (she did that when she made her confession to Sasuke in part 1. All that is left is the memory of those feelings of a naive girl, the team mate bond, and memories of Sasuke at his best because Naruto had changed him. Sakura already knows even before she sees Naruto again for the first time she is attracted to him- even though it takes a bit longer for her to put it together that what she's feeling is real love for Naruto (Yamato's words are enough for her to put it together). Naruto loves Sakura as deeply as she loves him, but because of his self-imposed wall he doesn't see it, even at first when Sakura confesses. It takes her insistence and Sai's firm words to get through to Naruto. But now it's openly mutual feelings between Naruto and Sakura- even though Naruto needs to assure Sakura he loves her very much. That's a relatively easy step now.

[Paptala]

There are still some people who still bash Akane and go on and about how much better a girlfriend Shampoo was to Ranma- in what's left Ranma 1/2 fandom. I was like "Huh? What manga are you reading?" back in the day and to see some people still acting that way 15 years after the series ended in Japan with RanmaxAkane... I just roll my eyes.

Really? I never knew there were shipping wars for Ranma - I always figured it was incredibly obvious that Ranma was going to end up with Akane by the end of the series, and the other suitors for both of them were just meant to add drama and further both the plot and the main relationship between Ranma and Akane.

I mean, RanmaxShampoo is cute in fandom, but it's weird to think that people actually argued that she would be a better girlfriend for Ranma in all seriousness.

Pain. It's not about Main characters, it's about development. It usually is the main characters because they spend the most time together and you get to see how they feel towards one another.

EXACTLY.

Don't get me wrong. I like the story, but it definitely isn't the best I have ever read in the manga/anime category. Not by a long shot. Kishi uses too many cliches, everything is there. That's why I like NaruSaku because it isn't a cliche. He does provide this subtle tone to their relationship.

Agreed - Naruto and Sakura's relationship is done very well. Whatever faults Kishimoto may have, I do think that he's very talented at gradually building subtly complicated relationships.

while the anime version of the confession is genuine enough, i still worry about the guy's reactions about it, specifically kiba's reaction.

Well, Kiba never said or thought that Sakura was lying. He and the other observers only started to look angry/irritated when Sakura told Naruto that nothing was wrong, and that Naruto should stop chasing Sasuke and how she didn't need Naruto's promise anymore.

Kiba could (and in my opinion most likely was) irritated over the fact that Sakura made them promise not to tell Naruto the decision the rookies had come to concerning Sasuke and that she would be the one to tell Naruto, but here she is, telling Naruto that nothing is wrong and that she loves him. This was supposed to be a mission to tell Naruto important news and not only is Sakura using the opportunity to tell Naruto personal, mushy (to him) stuff, she also is obviously NOT going to tell Naruto what she was supposed to in the first place - that they've decided Sasuke needs to be dealt with.

I don't blame him for looking irritated, but I doubt it has much to do with Naruto and Sakura's relationship (after all, he was smiling along with everyone else at the hug in 450 - I think it was the timing of it and the fact that she was supposed to be doing something else that pissed him off).

As for Yamato and Kakashi - they likely simply picked up on the fact that Sakura had ulterior motives and was hiding something.

So I've been seeing some comments saying the love "triangle" was reset (Naruto -> Sakura -> Sasuke). Is it really the case or is it just Anti big 3 "propaganda".

Yes, I've heard that a lot too - only that Naruto and Sakura's relationship has been reset due to the events of chapter 469. And honestly, I don't agree with that at all.

Even looking at it in the most negative light you can, it doesn't erase the fact that Naruto and Sakura have built a strong, mutual relationship of friendship and comradery over the entire course of the manga, that Naruto is canonically still in love with Sakura, that Sakura has shown multiple signs of having feelings for Naruto that go beyond friendship, and that Naruto doesn't hold any of Sakura's actions against her because he understands that it was done for his benefit.

[ahmed]

Huh?

^ Well it is understandable, he is from Egypt afterall (or at least thay's what it says on his profile).

Sorry ,Tax_Man:English is not my first language
yes Quinny i am from Egpt

he basically wants to know if the anime team would remove Sakuras blushing as hers was more important then Narutos.

the answer as we know of course is that they didnt and actualy emphasized her reactions better in animation.

thanks
But i stil don't understand why they remove Naruto Blushes
and as u said "they emphasized her reactions better in animation.".they support NS obviously and specially after the last OVA&the end in the last Episodes

Edited by ahmed, 10 April 2011 - 03:36 PM.