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[Otaru]

Not U acting like Sakura was wrong in what she said. EVERYTHING Naruto did makes Sakura's faults seem small.Pretending to love her because of a rivalry trumps everything she did. Sakura told the truth . He's a retard

 

The only retard is Kishi. Bashing the characters he himself completely torn out is not right. We shouldn't do that here. We are better than that. I still love the characters for what they are in reality. 15 years can't be erased like that. Naruto is not that cold moron Kishi is showing us now. NO. I will never acknowledge something like that. Naruto is not a moron that doesn't understand love. He's the one that open Zabuza's eyes to Haku's love in the very beginning of the manga.

Sakura never wanted to use Naruto. Never. Even the Sakura from the beginning, that was selfishly loving Sasuke wouldn't use Naruto in order to obtain something. It's appearing like that at the surface only because the constant changing of mind of Kishimoto destroyed everything. (or the pressure he was shouldering I don't know anymore and I don't care anymore.).

[sushi.]

Kishi is a bad writer, a mean person, sexist af, weak with no backbone. But he's no r*tard. No one is. Please, such slurs shouldn't be allowed here.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Kishi is a bad writer, a mean person, sexist af, weak with no backbone. But he's no r*tard. No one is. Please, such slurs shouldn't be allowed here.

Agreed.

[Aizen-Sama]

Kishi is a bad writer, a mean person, sexist af, weak with no backbone. But he's no r*tard. No one is. Please, such slurs shouldn't be allowed here.

Kishi is a retard but I shall refrain from calling him that. :)

[Otaru]

I'm sorry I was only trying to stop the bashing on the characters.

Kishi is called names here everywhere.
In fact I didn't wanted to call him names.
But I think it's not right to bash constantly the characters. All this makes no sense anymore since Kishi, the author, destroyed them by himself.

 

Kishi is responsible of all this. No need to bash Naruto or Sakura.
 

Edited by Otaru, 25 April 2015 - 10:24 PM.

[ThroughWithLove]

Calling Kishi mentally challenged is an insult to mentally challenged people everywhere.

I'm sorry I was only trying to stop the bashing on the characters.

Kishi is called names here everywhere.
In fact I didn't wanted to call him names.
But I think it's not right to bash constantly the characters. All this makes no sense anymore since Kishi, the author, destroyed them by himself.
 

 

Honestly, I get the sentiment behind "bash Kishi, not the characters", but there's really nothing to like about the characters as they are now. I like what Naruto and Sakura once were and had the potential to be, but I despise what they've become.

Edited by ThroughWithLove, 25 April 2015 - 10:25 PM.

[Aizen-Sama]

Calling Kishi mentally challenged is an insult to mentally challenged people everywhere.

Ditto.

[Otaru]

That's what I was saying.

Who is Naruto ? The one we had in the end or the one we had during 15years ?
I despise what they've become too. But the only culprits are Kishi and the team that was pressuring him, his 'assistants' and all the people that gravited around Naruto and gave their 'advices' to Kishi.
 

Edited by Otaru, 25 April 2015 - 10:28 PM.

[harry4e]

nh/ss family photos

 

Just so everyone gets the pleasure of see both pairings.

 

OK something doesn't just sit right with those two pictures...I can't quite put my finger on it....Oh yeah, its the fact neither looks like a freaking family photo.

 

Look at the distant between Naruto and Hinata, is Naruto prosenting her to someone? 'Here is the maid that will be servicing you this evening.' and why are the kids not centred, both of them are closer to Hinata than Naruto, and Himiwari is about as far away from Naruto as possible, (and oh look Hinata 2.0 uncovered.) Where is the freaking intimacy? I think of when Naruto was looking at the photo album of Menma with his parent  in RtN, and the amount of love and closeness that was portrayed in them, and I look at this and it's as different as night and day.

 

As for the SS family photo, while I admit Sakura looks good, the pose seems earily familiar, specially with the exposed stomach, it's pretty much a mix of Karin and Konan (without Robes) get-up, and that pose just seems odd one to take with your child, on your own sure, but with your child I'd expect something more again intimate that showed the love between the two, this just looks like she posing because she's infront of a camera, Sarada just happens to be dragged into it aswell.

[TouKen4Life3g]

That's because Kishi only knows that women must be pretty and developments are based off of that.

[Nar123]

While Nagato and Konan aren't worse than Obito they too were scumbags, Nagato killed children and co-founded an organization that hunted innocent people and getting civilian killed in the process and Konan supports him, none of them deserve praise for saving Naruto when they helped create the situation.

I'm not trying to excuse Nagato and Konan, what I'm trying to say is that if there are some people that trusted Naruto to go foward then Nagato and Konan have top priority over Obito, I mean Nagato died believing Naruto's dream and Obito died because of his own sense of redemption.

 

So yeah, AHK argued that current Naruto probably dissapointed a lot of people that died for him, like Kushina, minato and Jiraya, He said Obito too, which I disagreed because Obito wouldn't care less since he is comfy on his underserved after life with Rin

Edited by Nar123, 25 April 2015 - 10:37 PM.

[Aizen-Sama]

That's because Kishi only knows that women must be pretty and developments are based off of that.

Not really, some of guys in this manga are prettier than the girls such as Deidara, Itachi, Neji etc lol. But at least they all have characters & development.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Not really, some of guys in this manga are prettier than the girls such as Deidara, Itachi, Neji etc lol. But at least they all have characters & development.

I'm only talking about women.

[Otaru]

There's also something else that's utterly wrong with the 'family' pictures. Look at Sakura. I mean, look at her.

 

Again, I'm sorry, but she's drawn like Karin was drawn.

Showing her belly button was Karin's.
That kind of body pose was Karin's.

That shiny lips were Karin's.

 

Why ??? What is he thinking... he wants the fans to doubt Sakura is really Sarada's mother. He's playing with the rumors. Ok right. We get it. That's cheap.

 

But does he also wants the fans to believe Karin is here in place of Sakura, through a Sakura henge ?? Why did he gave Karin's features to Sakura ?

[Nar123]

I'm also not a fan of bashing the characters so much, the arguments can get pretty repeated sometimes. Wait at least till there is new material  to talk/bash,  guys

 

And remember ultimately the one at fault is Kishi

Edited by Nar123, 25 April 2015 - 10:43 PM.

[Aizen-Sama]

There's also something else that's utterly wrong with the 'family' pictures. Look at Sakura. I mean, look at her.
 
Again, I'm sorry, but she's drawn like Karin was drawn.
Showing her belly button was Karin's.
That kind of body pose was Karin's.
That shiny lips were Karin's.
 
Why ??? What is he thinking... he wants the fans to doubt Sakura is really Sarada's mother. He's playing with the rumors. Ok right. We get it. That's cheap.
 
But does he also wants the fans to believe Karin is here in place of Sakura, through a Sakura henge ?? Why did he gave Karin's features to Sakura ?

It makes me sick how he's making her a Karin clone. He didn't even care enough about Karin to give her a decent ending yet he's only bringing her back to cause drama with SS & because he heard fans making comparisons with her & Sarada. The guy will do anything for attention and to mess with readers' heads.

[harry4e]

Stand back, I am gonna post it.

One of the interviewers: “Sakura had always been worried about Naruto, but her actions towards Naruto seem to have a different feel from before, she seems very anxious about Naruto…How does she feel about Sasuke-kun?”

Kishimoto: “As for Sakura… Sasuke… what about Sasuke? Naruto is close and she worries about Naruto as well, but as expected, she [loves] Sasuke.

Interviewer: "Because of this, she acted quite haughty towards that guy. She used Naruto’s love for her and told him she loved him."

Kishimoto: "On the contrary…. I felt like depicting an honest girl, with a surprisingly stubborn impression.”

And Kishimoto also comments:

"So... she became such a character, but... well... from here on, maybe I should draw her showing a bit more spirit.
I figured I had placed her in a heroin-like situation
But from the readers I was told harshly that she wasn't heroin-ish at all
Perhaps I should show depict her a bit more like a heroin
Because you say 'Hinata Hinata,' I say 'She's not Hinata'"

 

So he answers that she loves Sasuke not Naruto in one question, but in the next question he says she didn't lie with her confession, she was being a honest girl? This Guy I tell you, he honestly does not understant what he is doing to Sakura. He's not put her in a true heroine situation for years, not without screwing it up. Did he think her fake confession was something a hero would do? Did he think attempting to stab Sasuke in the back was something a hero would do? Did he think that a Hero would need saving seconds after they showed their new powerups? It's not like he made Hinata look like a heroine either,, just the big kittens worked like rose tinted glasses for her fans, oh and the VA being literally royalty in the field. Nana Mizuki would tell her fans to line up so she could throw Cow Dung on them and they'd happily do it.

 

I've been saying this for years, Kishi screws up every single time Sakura gets a time to shine, just let her have her moment in the spotlight, even now he's still doing it, she's been raising a child (who may or may not be hers) for 12 years alone, and we should be celebrating the fact that she's a strong independant woman who didn't need a man bring up a happy child. Instead we see a gllomey kid, and she's become a meek woman who can't even speak up to her child without apoligising.

[Aizen-Sama]

Sakura wasn't lying about loving Naruto, she was only lying about her intentions & not being completely over Sasuke. She would've gotten completely over him if Naruto had just listened to her & let Sasuke get himself killed.

[rocci]

I'm not trying to excuse Nagato and Konan, what I'm trying to say is that if there are some people that trusted Naruto to go foward then Nagato and Konan have top priority over Obito, I mean Nagato died believing Naruto's dream and Obito died because of his own sense of redemption.
 
So yeah, AHK argued that current Naruto probably dissapointed a lot of people that died for him, like Kushina, minato and Jiraya, He said Obito too, which I disagreed because Obito wouldn't care less since he is comfy on his underserved after life with Rin

Obirin is not canon.

[Yyubie]

I'm so fed up with Naruto. lawd. Give me a good manga to read. preferably shoujo I need REAL romance -cry-

Same here im EXTREMELY thirst of narusaku moment. I realy need it its like a drugs... i have this fannon story in my head about how narusaku will happen and whenever i feel the need i keep thinking about it makes me feels calm and happy.

 

THANK YOU. Finally, someone who understands. Thank you, Thank you, thank you.

 

I am guessing you weren't here for the majority of the manga on this site because on this site there was more Sakura bashing for all her behavior than anything else. Sakura "fake confession," which again I have said Kishimoto said it wasn't, as everyone keeps saying has been a hot topic ever since that chapter came out. I know several members who used to be here where that is ALL they talked about. Over and over.

I also guessing you have never been on the Naruto tumblr pages where all anyone keep talking about is Sakura and her character development or lack there of.

How convenient and besides, isn't this topic supposed to be about the first chapter of Naruto Gaiden and NOT Sakura's confession?

"All the Naruto bashing threads" Oh you mean the ones that have been happening for only months now? Meanwhile Sakura bashing has been around on this site for YEARS!!!! Even now. Congrats...you have no idea.



 

You know when problem happen people just gonna get mad/angry and start blame others, instead keep calm and analyze who did that problem happen. Its same concept , kishi/SP write sakura like this keep destroying her character but 80% of the fanbase blame and bash sakura instead of the writer. Its human nature. Thats why conflict happen and human so easly provoked. YOU are the first exception here. Others member here is just bashing sakura like ss/nh fans. [Well im a new girl here so dont realy know for sure]

 

Stand back, I am gonna post it.

One of the interviewers: “Sakura had always been worried about Naruto, but her actions towards Naruto seem to have a different feel from before, she seems very anxious about Naruto…How does she feel about Sasuke-kun?”

Kishimoto: “As for Sakura… Sasuke… what about Sasuke? Naruto is close and she worries about Naruto as well, but as expected, she [loves] Sasuke.

Interviewer: "Because of this, she acted quite haughty towards that guy. She used Naruto’s love for her and told him she loved him."

Kishimoto: "On the contrary…. I felt like depicting an honest girl, with a surprisingly stubborn impression.”

And Kishimoto also comments:

"So... she became such a character, but... well... from here on, maybe I should draw her showing a bit more spirit.
I figured I had placed her in a heroin-like situation
But from the readers I was told harshly that she wasn't heroin-ish at all
Perhaps I should show depict her a bit more like a heroin
Because you say 'Hinata Hinata,' I say 'She's not Hinata'"

Yes but this is long time ago when kishi still "FREE" he still has control over his creation. If only you can send this interview to him...

Never underestimate the power of MONEY and POPULARITY. If you watch The Hobbit , that movie is a very good example why money=greed=death.

 

By the way is there gonna be new chapter next week? some said no but some said yes which one is true???