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[Liu bie]

Seems a bit soon to end SS. Maybe Sakura will indeed side with Sasuke only to reveal later that she was double crossing him. Which as I write it sounds terrible.

 

But maybe if SS does end now the rest of the time in the manga can be devoted to real romantic NS development.

Do you think that Sakura will try that again, If she side Sasuke Sakura will crush naruto?

[HauntedCake]

Like some people say that there is a possibility that Sakura confess again to Sasuke, but he still reject her do you think that Kishi will troll us in leaving it like this then none chapters in the future would show any NS moment and  until the very end he will show that Naruto is married to Sakura, but for a while we would think that Sakura still loves Sakuke and we are suffering.

 

I don't belive she will try anything of the sort.

 

Seems a bit soon to end SS. Maybe Sakura will indeed side with Sasuke only to reveal later that she was double crossing him. Which as I write it sounds terrible.

 

But maybe if SS does end now the rest of the time in the manga can be devoted to real romantic NS development.

 

Sakura pretending to betray Naruto would still hurt Naruto a lot and that's the last thing she wants to do to him.

It would be sad if Sakura confesses and Sasuke rejects her and runs off to Naruto. Especially after all they've been through. Eh, me no want that to happen.

 

Why would she ever do this??????

I highly doubt that Sakura would confess to Sasuke again, especially after all that he's done... That would be a major character regression for her and I would definitely be upset by it :(

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Do you think that Sakura will try that again, If she side Sasuke Sakura will crush naruto?

 

Really???? what is wrong with you people today.....

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Seems a bit soon to end SS. Maybe Sakura will indeed side with Sasuke only to reveal later that she was double crossing him. Which as I write it sounds terrible.

 

But maybe if SS does end now the rest of the time in the manga can be devoted to real romantic NS development.

I think that so too, after what he did to NH killing it in one chapter and Minato coming out from nowhere just to kill that pairing, i have any doubts that he's capable of killing SS on the next chapters instead of milking this until the end of the series i can completely see NS becoming canon before the end of the year.

[Liu bie]

 

I don't belive she will try anything of the sort.

 

 

Sakura pretending to betray Naruto would still hurt Naruto a lot and that's the last thing she wants to do to him.

 

Why would she ever do this??????

this this this

 

Really???? what is wrong with you people today.....

That why I am against that, I do not think that Sakura will try to pretend to betray again.

[HauntedCake]

That why I am against that, I do not think that Sakura will try to pretend to betray again.

Agreed

[Cherry-Bloss93]

I was thinking - some people said that Sasuke might pull a Kakashi-Rin speech and tell Sakura how much Naruto loves her. Personally, I highly doubt this will happen because:


1. Sasuke's character - he really has no interest in romance right now. He just wants to be hokage and I don't think he particularly cares about Naruto and Sakura's romantic relationship.

2. This speech parallel may have already occurred in part 1 where Naruto saved Sakura from Gaara - remember when Sasuke told Sakura that Naruto "risked death for her" and that she had "never really seen him"?

3. Sai - Sai already told Sakura how much Naruto loves her. Why would this need to be repeated with Sasuke now?

Any thoughts?

[Inferno180]

Speaking of parallels, I actually a few days ago, regarding the past few chapters not including 634, someone on another forum asked me why do people go on about the parallels, how exactly do they matter or advocate pairings? This was a NH fan who was surprisingly unaware of the stuff but I told her its not really that they advocate pairings, its more because they serve as a story model of what could have occurred for Team 7 if things had been worse or if they had given up. I told her the parallels do not make the characters from Team 7 to another the same though, we say parallel because the characters of team 7, though we followed their journey and saw how Naruto, Sakura, and Sasuke changed over the series, as the story went on we see others like the Sannin, Team Minato, and so on, we see their actions, desires, initial team set ups, similar event patterns, basically a lot of similar stuff happens between characters but each character is still their own indiviudal different person. I said team 7 was not the only one with parallels, others could include Neji who died on his own choice like his father did or how like Asuma lead team 10, it was reminiscent of how the Sarotobi clan actually had the Yakamana, Nara, and Akamichi clans as subordinate clans and close allies.

 

For team 7 though, its been the whole ordeal of having relationships between the Sannin and team Minato. In each team, something happened to them that in a way corrleates with the situations of team 7.

 

For the Sannin,

 

Jiraya like Naruto started as a talentless goof, loved Tsunade, became best friends with Orochimaru, however he could not stop Orochimaru from abandoning the village or help Tsunade when she lost her loved ones. He eventually gave up only remaining in contact with the leaf following Orochimaru's and Akakstui's movements. This parallels Naruto because he wanted to save Sasuke and he loves Sakura, but because he remains noble to Sakura for the promise, he does what he can for her and her happiness, just as Jiraya did for Tsunade. Both Naruto and Jiraya wanted to save their friends from paths of self destruction.

 

Tsunade was considerbly smart, she started the medical system and became a prodigy for this. She eventually however lost her younger brother Nalwaki to war and her lover Dan as well. This parallels Sakura because she did become a great medical ninja, but the other reason is because Sakura "lost" her loved one like Tsunade, with Sasuke leaving, Sakura's love left physically while Tsunade's died. Both in a sense have their loves left elsehwere.

 

Orochimaru was a genius, gifted, and talented, just like Sasuke. Yet after his parents died Orochimaru became obsessed with obtaining power and forbidden jutsu. This is a very easy parallel to Sasuke, power. Orochimaru wanted power for his own simple desire but also immortality, Sasuke wanted it for revenge on Itachi, both out of losing their families to some event.

 

The sannin's fate more or less repeated and represented the same ordeal team 7 faced at the end of part 1. For the sannin it was never resolved but their own failure has set up the chance for a redemption in the way team 7 can succeed. The sannin never solved their problem though, this can be different in the case of team 7.

 

Team Minato, resulted as a parallel we can identify with the same basic outline as team 7 first had.

 

Obito- yes the Naruto of the group, clumsy and not as skilled as the talented guy, but he had a heart and good will. Obito loved Rin who loved Kakashi. Yet he sacrificed himself and after meeting Madara became a corrupted physco.

 

Rin- Obviously the Sakura of the group who loved the talented guy, was a skilled medic, and often acted as the diffuser when Obito and Kakashi acted up. She admitted her love to Kakashi but kakashi told her not to love him, that he was not worthy after Obito's sacrifice. She ultimately became a weapon for the mist and killed herself at kakashi's hands voluntarily to protect the village.

 

Kakashi- Was arrogent and cold but skilled like Sasuke. He had to learn the hard way though, obitos words changed him before obito himself became twisted. He promised to protect Rin but failed as she killed herself. Unlike the rest of the parallels though, Kakashi is unique in that he has a second chance, to correct his mistakes with team 7 and Obito.

 

Basically team Minato represents an opposite fate, a dark situation for all of team 7. Naruto could have ended the same as Obito, Rin had to learn the hardship of how one who loved her died and how the one she loves does not think he is worthy at all, Kakashi became a better person but at the cost of Obtio "dying" and Rin sacrificing herself causing him to fail in his promise to protect her. For team 7 though, their fates are standing opposite right now, Naruto has tried to save the world opposite Obito destroying it, Sakura will hopefully discover her feelings and obviously not die, Sasuke is still going on his own motives which can cause trouble opposite Kakashi who for a long time has been focused on the wellbeing of others. This one does not seem to make as much sense but the basic details are there for this to be a connected similarity. Sakura being a medic, having the same love pattern, make her paralleled with rin and her fate (which is to be opposite like Naruto's to obito and Sasukes to kakashi) is come to terms with her feelings and obviously, not die.

 

Now after I said these, the NH fan asked the whole deal about Minato and Kushina, I gave her the basic outline about how Kushina first appeared, it drove some fans into overdrive, there were similarities, and people pinned it on Sakura and Hinata. i said how unlike the other 2, the parallel with Minato and Kushina is the only one applying to an actual pairing. Basically this was a unique parallel because this was something only applying to Naruto and Sakura, not all of team 7. She asked how it worked and it was like this:

 

Naruto - Minato: not only because of looks, also because of battle talent, desire for hokage, and to protect his friends. Also helps that several times in the series other characters like Kakashi and Jiraya have envisioned Naruto as like Minato. Even Jiraya advocates this to Tsunade before going to the rain village. Its also due to how Naruto had early interactions with Sakura like Minato with Kushina, this makes Naruto have more on Minato's side.

 

Sakura - Kushina: this was what many fans debated on but I told the NH fan this and it was a very simple one. Sakura and Kushina are paralleled for a lot of reasons, looks aren't even the start, there is also how their own personalities are similar and especially their childhood backgrounds, both had a feature they were embarrassed with, didn't like the blond who liked them, both blonds liked a feature on them they hated, had tempers, etc. But over time both grew to respect the blonds who liked them. 631 made this much higher and just thrusted this one forward.

 

In all respect, Naruto has traits form both parents and his personality is like Kushinas but we see more advocation towards Minato so in this case, the Minato parallel is dominant in Naruto. In all situations too, not all characters had the same personalities as their parallels, Rin was a parallel to Sakura but had no temper. Even then Sakura still has traits like Minato such as both being ordinary, very smart, and considered prodigies in their respective talents. What is unique about this setup though is Sasuke has no parallel, because he has not been focused on romance at all (save from Sakura's point of view) I consider the fill in parallel slot for Sasuke in this group to be Itachi, simply because both had reasons for why they would kill and preform thier duties. They both became missing nin for a different purpose, the parallel though is Itachi chose to become what he was, Sasuke did it and lost track of why he did it in the firstplace.

 

I explained these to the NH fan, it was for clarity, no issues whatsoever. She was surprised she had not noticed similarities like this and that this was a part of a story element. As of chapters 631 and 634, the Sakura=Kushina and Team 7=Sannin parallels were confirmed in full.

[Nefertieh]

Speaking of parallels, I actually a few days ago, regarding the past few chapters not including 634, someone on another forum asked me why do people go on about the parallels, how exactly do they matter or advocate pairings? This was a NH fan who was surprisingly unaware of the stuff but I told her its not really that they advocate pairings, its more because they serve as a story model of what could have occurred for Team 7 if things had been worse or if they had given up. I told her the parallels do not make the characters from Team 7 to another the same though, we say parallel because the characters of team 7, though we followed their journey and saw how Naruto, Sakura, and Sasuke changed over the series, as the story went on we see others like the Sannin, Team Minato, and so on, we see their actions, desires, initial team set ups, similar event patterns, basically a lot of similar stuff happens between characters but each character is still their own indiviudal different person. I said team 7 was not the only one with parallels, others could include Neji who died on his own choice like his father did or how like Asuma lead team 10, it was reminiscent of how the Sarotobi clan actually had the Yakamana, Nara, and Akamichi clans as subordinate clans and close allies.
 
For team 7 though, its been the whole ordeal of having relationships between the Sannin and team Minato. In each team, something happened to them that in a way corrleates with the situations of team 7.
 
For the Sannin,
 
Jiraya like Naruto started as a talentless goof, loved Tsunade, became best friends with Orochimaru, however he could not stop Orochimaru from abandoning the village or help Tsunade when she lost her loved ones. He eventually gave up only remaining in contact with the leaf following Orochimaru's and Akakstui's movements. This parallels Naruto because he wanted to save Sasuke and he loves Sakura, but because he remains noble to Sakura for the promise, he does what he can for her and her happiness, just as Jiraya did for Tsunade. Both Naruto and Jiraya wanted to save their friends from paths of self destruction.
 
Tsunade was considerbly smart, she started the medical system and became a prodigy for this. She eventually however lost her younger brother Nalwaki to war and her lover Dan as well. This parallels Sakura because she did become a great medical ninja, but the other reason is because Sakura "lost" her loved one like Tsunade, with Sasuke leaving, Sakura's love left physically while Tsunade's died. Both in a sense have their loves left elsehwere.
 
Orochimaru was a genius, gifted, and talented, just like Sasuke. Yet after his parents died Orochimaru became obsessed with obtaining power and forbidden jutsu. This is a very easy parallel to Sasuke, power. Orochimaru wanted power for his own simple desire but also immortality, Sasuke wanted it for revenge on Itachi, both out of losing their families to some event.
 
The sannin's fate more or less repeated and represented the same ordeal team 7 faced at the end of part 1. For the sannin it was never resolved but their own failure has set up the chance for a redemption in the way team 7 can succeed. The sannin never solved their problem though, this can be different in the case of team 7.
 
Team Minato, resulted as a parallel we can identify with the same basic outline as team 7 first had.
 
Obito- yes the Naruto of the group, clumsy and not as skilled as the talented guy, but he had a heart and good will. Obito loved Rin who loved Kakashi. Yet he sacrificed himself and after meeting Madara became a corrupted physco.
 
Rin- Obviously the Sakura of the group who loved the talented guy, was a skilled medic, and often acted as the diffuser when Obito and Kakashi acted up. She admitted her love to Kakashi but kakashi told her not to love him, that he was not worthy after Obito's sacrifice. She ultimately became a weapon for the mist and killed herself at kakashi's hands voluntarily to protect the village.
 
Kakashi- Was arrogent and cold but skilled like Sasuke. He had to learn the hard way though, obitos words changed him before obito himself became twisted. He promised to protect Rin but failed as she killed herself. Unlike the rest of the parallels though, Kakashi is unique in that he has a second chance, to correct his mistakes with team 7 and Obito.
 
Basically team Minato represents an opposite fate, a dark situation for all of team 7. Naruto could have ended the same as Obito, Rin had to learn the hardship of how one who loved her died and how the one she loves does not think he is worthy at all, Kakashi became a better person but at the cost of Obtio "dying" and Rin sacrificing herself causing him to fail in his promise to protect her. For team 7 though, their fates are standing opposite right now, Naruto has tried to save the world opposite Obito destroying it, Sakura will hopefully discover her feelings and obviously not die, Sasuke is still going on his own motives which can cause trouble opposite Kakashi who for a long time has been focused on the wellbeing of others. This one does not seem to make as much sense but the basic details are there for this to be a connected similarity. Sakura being a medic, having the same love pattern, make her paralleled with rin and her fate (which is to be opposite like Naruto's to obito and Sasukes to kakashi) is come to terms with her feelings and obviously, not die.
 
Now after I said these, the NH fan asked the whole deal about Minato and Kushina, I gave her the basic outline about how Kushina first appeared, it drove some fans into overdrive, there were similarities, and people pinned it on Sakura and Hinata. i said how unlike the other 2, the parallel with Minato and Kushina is the only one applying to an actual pairing. Basically this was a unique parallel because this was something only applying to Naruto and Sakura, not all of team 7. She asked how it worked and it was like this:
 
Naruto - Minato: not only because of looks, also because of battle talent, desire for hokage, and to protect his friends. Also helps that several times in the series other characters like Kakashi and Jiraya have envisioned Naruto as like Minato. Even Jiraya advocates this to Tsunade before going to the rain village. Its also due to how Naruto had early interactions with Sakura like Minato with Kushina, this makes Naruto have more on Minato's side.
 
Sakura - Kushina: this was what many fans debated on but I told the NH fan this and it was a very simple one. Sakura and Kushina are paralleled for a lot of reasons, looks aren't even the start, there is also how their own personalities are similar and especially their childhood backgrounds, both had a feature they were embarrassed with, didn't like the blond who liked them, both blonds liked a feature on them they hated, had tempers, etc. But over time both grew to respect the blonds who liked them. 631 made this much higher and just thrusted this one forward.
 
In all respect, Naruto has traits form both parents and his personality is like Kushinas but we see more advocation towards Minato so in this case, the Minato parallel is dominant in Naruto. In all situations too, not all characters had the same personalities as their parallels, Rin was a parallel to Sakura but had no temper. Even then Sakura still has traits like Minato such as both being ordinary, very smart, and considered prodigies in their respective talents. What is unique about this setup though is Sasuke has no parallel, because he has not been focused on romance at all (save from Sakura's point of view) I consider the fill in parallel slot for Sasuke in this group to be Itachi, simply because both had reasons for why they would kill and preform thier duties. They both became missing nin for a different purpose, the parallel though is Itachi chose to become what he was, Sasuke did it and lost track of why he did it in the firstplace.
 
I explained these to the NH fan, it was for clarity, no issues whatsoever. She was surprised she had not noticed similarities like this and that this was a part of a story element. As of chapters 631 and 634, the Sakura=Kushina and Team 7=Sannin parallels were confirmed in full.

I would have just pointed out that parallelism is a literary device. We used to learn it at school. I must be getting old.

[Sav from Australia]

Speaking of parallels, I actually a few days ago, regarding the past few chapters not including 634, someone on another forum asked me why do people go on about the parallels, how exactly do they matter or advocate pairings? This was a NH fan who was surprisingly unaware of the stuff but I told her its not really that they advocate pairings, its more because they serve as a story model of what could have occurred for Team 7 if things had been worse or if they had given up. I told her the parallels do not make the characters from Team 7 to another the same though, we say parallel because the characters of team 7, though we followed their journey and saw how Naruto, Sakura, and Sasuke changed over the series, as the story went on we see others like the Sannin, Team Minato, and so on, we see their actions, desires, initial team set ups, similar event patterns, basically a lot of similar stuff happens between characters but each character is still their own indiviudal different person. I said team 7 was not the only one with parallels, others could include Neji who died on his own choice like his father did or how like Asuma lead team 10, it was reminiscent of how the Sarotobi clan actually had the Yakamana, Nara, and Akamichi clans as subordinate clans and close allies.

 

For team 7 though, its been the whole ordeal of having relationships between the Sannin and team Minato. In each team, something happened to them that in a way corrleates with the situations of team 7.

 

For the Sannin,

 

Jiraya like Naruto started as a talentless goof, loved Tsunade, became best friends with Orochimaru, however he could not stop Orochimaru from abandoning the village or help Tsunade when she lost her loved ones. He eventually gave up only remaining in contact with the leaf following Orochimaru's and Akakstui's movements. This parallels Naruto because he wanted to save Sasuke and he loves Sakura, but because he remains noble to Sakura for the promise, he does what he can for her and her happiness, just as Jiraya did for Tsunade. Both Naruto and Jiraya wanted to save their friends from paths of self destruction.

 

Tsunade was considerbly smart, she started the medical system and became a prodigy for this. She eventually however lost her younger brother Nalwaki to war and her lover Dan as well. This parallels Sakura because she did become a great medical ninja, but the other reason is because Sakura "lost" her loved one like Tsunade, with Sasuke leaving, Sakura's love left physically while Tsunade's died. Both in a sense have their loves left elsehwere.

 

Orochimaru was a genius, gifted, and talented, just like Sasuke. Yet after his parents died Orochimaru became obsessed with obtaining power and forbidden jutsu. This is a very easy parallel to Sasuke, power. Orochimaru wanted power for his own simple desire but also immortality, Sasuke wanted it for revenge on Itachi, both out of losing their families to some event.

 

The sannin's fate more or less repeated and represented the same ordeal team 7 faced at the end of part 1. For the sannin it was never resolved but their own failure has set up the chance for a redemption in the way team 7 can succeed. The sannin never solved their problem though, this can be different in the case of team 7.

 

Team Minato, resulted as a parallel we can identify with the same basic outline as team 7 first had.

 

Obito- yes the Naruto of the group, clumsy and not as skilled as the talented guy, but he had a heart and good will. Obito loved Rin who loved Kakashi. Yet he sacrificed himself and after meeting Madara became a corrupted physco.

 

Rin- Obviously the Sakura of the group who loved the talented guy, was a skilled medic, and often acted as the diffuser when Obito and Kakashi acted up. She admitted her love to Kakashi but kakashi told her not to love him, that he was not worthy after Obito's sacrifice. She ultimately became a weapon for the mist and killed herself at kakashi's hands voluntarily to protect the village.

 

Kakashi- Was arrogent and cold but skilled like Sasuke. He had to learn the hard way though, obitos words changed him before obito himself became twisted. He promised to protect Rin but failed as she killed herself. Unlike the rest of the parallels though, Kakashi is unique in that he has a second chance, to correct his mistakes with team 7 and Obito.

 

Basically team Minato represents an opposite fate, a dark situation for all of team 7. Naruto could have ended the same as Obito, Rin had to learn the hardship of how one who loved her died and how the one she loves does not think he is worthy at all, Kakashi became a better person but at the cost of Obtio "dying" and Rin sacrificing herself causing him to fail in his promise to protect her. For team 7 though, their fates are standing opposite right now, Naruto has tried to save the world opposite Obito destroying it, Sakura will hopefully discover her feelings and obviously not die, Sasuke is still going on his own motives which can cause trouble opposite Kakashi who for a long time has been focused on the wellbeing of others. This one does not seem to make as much sense but the basic details are there for this to be a connected similarity. Sakura being a medic, having the same love pattern, make her paralleled with rin and her fate (which is to be opposite like Naruto's to obito and Sasukes to kakashi) is come to terms with her feelings and obviously, not die.

 

Now after I said these, the NH fan asked the whole deal about Minato and Kushina, I gave her the basic outline about how Kushina first appeared, it drove some fans into overdrive, there were similarities, and people pinned it on Sakura and Hinata. i said how unlike the other 2, the parallel with Minato and Kushina is the only one applying to an actual pairing. Basically this was a unique parallel because this was something only applying to Naruto and Sakura, not all of team 7. She asked how it worked and it was like this:

 

Naruto - Minato: not only because of looks, also because of battle talent, desire for hokage, and to protect his friends. Also helps that several times in the series other characters like Kakashi and Jiraya have envisioned Naruto as like Minato. Even Jiraya advocates this to Tsunade before going to the rain village. Its also due to how Naruto had early interactions with Sakura like Minato with Kushina, this makes Naruto have more on Minato's side.

 

Sakura - Kushina: this was what many fans debated on but I told the NH fan this and it was a very simple one. Sakura and Kushina are paralleled for a lot of reasons, looks aren't even the start, there is also how their own personalities are similar and especially their childhood backgrounds, both had a feature they were embarrassed with, didn't like the blond who liked them, both blonds liked a feature on them they hated, had tempers, etc. But over time both grew to respect the blonds who liked them. 631 made this much higher and just thrusted this one forward.

 

In all respect, Naruto has traits form both parents and his personality is like Kushinas but we see more advocation towards Minato so in this case, the Minato parallel is dominant in Naruto. In all situations too, not all characters had the same personalities as their parallels, Rin was a parallel to Sakura but had no temper. Even then Sakura still has traits like Minato such as both being ordinary, very smart, and considered prodigies in their respective talents. What is unique about this setup though is Sasuke has no parallel, because he has not been focused on romance at all (save from Sakura's point of view) I consider the fill in parallel slot for Sasuke in this group to be Itachi, simply because both had reasons for why they would kill and preform thier duties. They both became missing nin for a different purpose, the parallel though is Itachi chose to become what he was, Sasuke did it and lost track of why he did it in the firstplace.

 

I explained these to the NH fan, it was for clarity, no issues whatsoever. She was surprised she had not noticed similarities like this and that this was a part of a story element. As of chapters 631 and 634, the Sakura=Kushina and Team 7=Sannin parallels were confirmed in full.

 

Wow! 

 

I love this forum.  I learn alot and its logical.  Brilliant!

[TouKen4Life3g]

Hello, everyone. I would like to share more stuff from NF. A really good friend of mine shared with me the piece of Jiraiya's novel. Note: He said the translation is not the best, so he apologize for any confusion. Credits goes to Kronin. Enjoy.

 

(Note: It's Shuu that is talking, the master of Naruto, Tsuyu and Rengi, the equivalent of Kakashi in the main series): "I'll explain you am useful little trick, to use when you have to take an important decision."
Tsuyu nodded her head.
"So, Tsuyu, when you are at a loss what to do, visualize in your mind the thing that make you more happy."
"The thing that... make me more happy?"
"In this way you'll realize alone what kind of person you are."
"I..."
"Now, close the eyes".
Tsuyu did as she was told.
"Now focus what you see."
With her eyes still close, Tsuyu catched a glimpse of... the silhouette of Naruto seen from the back. Yes, him, a silly, pervert, heedless, inconsiderate one... him that never lose his heart also even if he is rejected a thousand times.

The first time that I met Naruto we were both six years old. Then he introduced himself with something as:  "Nice to meet you... my name is Naruto! You can hand me the love letter even later! Bye!"
At that time, however, my attention was completely stolen by the boy close to him, Rengi...

"Tsuyu." Lost in the darkness of the thoughts, a voice brought her back to the present. "Maybe you will not have completed the mission, but you have caught the things that for you are really important."
"Master, the village needs to be evacuated!" Tsuyu opened again her eyes, wiped the tears and pressed her lips together in a thin line. "I... will come back to Naruto."

 

[Phantom_999]

Hey! long time since I've been in the debate thread. looking around I've noticed a few things. Well some have pointed this out before but since many of our veteran members hardly show up any more I'd like to say them personally. I feel that anti-Sakura fans are only using her part I self to justify their hatred of her because she treated Naruto. Now I already know she did not treat him as badly as those generic unimportant villagers, but I feel their reasoning is that Naruto already had a harsh life back the and it did not amuse them that the girl he likes was not making it any easier for him, even if her rejection of him was played for comedy. which is more justified for them, to ship him with Hinata cause they felt she is more deserving cause she was one of the few that did not hate him or treat him in a way to make him feel worse. But here's the thing, Hinata did not necessarily comfort him either; she just stalked him in the background. there are other reasons too, like the fact that they also sympathize with Hinata but then again we are talking about their hatred of Sakura here so to speak, so that reason can be left out. Anyways there is alo the shipping the argument that Hinata did not know Naruto as well, but as we must acknowledge Sakura did not know him either back then, so that can not be sufficient pairing evidence. I would just like to point this out.

 

However I would like to say that there is great amounts of evidence to to support our pairing for no other reason that the fact that we are talking about Japanese culture here.  Japanese values (and probably East Asian values in general) are that public displays of affection are not common, especially not with casual friends, so that friendship arguent is null and void for Naruto and Sakura because they are extremely close for casual friends in the minds of the Japanese, and all of those ship tease moments that we get, are actual things that only boyfriends and girlfriends are supposed to do because they are not things  done with just friends and is disapproved of if it ever happened. For instance feeding someone and hugging them in front of a crowd is something that only lovers do in Japan's society. So that by it self speaks volumes of Kishimoto's intentions. Sure it may imply NH too with the hand holding, and I would not deny it but I'd like to point out that that is only one moment, compared to the many more hints with Sakura.

 

Here is the proof. Go to a website called tvtropes.org and search up values dissonance then scroll down to the look up examples that they post, an check the anime list. Mind you they are neutral about pairings cause they talk about NH and SS hints there too, BUT you  will be happy to know that they, unlike other sites acknowledge an NS possibility. But I wouldn't look into it too much still because what they say about Sakura there is a little disheartening because on her profile they don't acknowledge her feelings for Naruto beyond being a better friend to him, just her supposed "love" for Sasuke. the NS possibilities I Mentioned on that site are on other topics but not on Sakura's profile itself. 

 

Now Sakura her self. Well we understand that she has feelings for Sasuke. still and there probably still there. Her feelings for Sasuke, much like Hinata's for Naruto remain unchanged. I speak of course of the fact that IF she still feels something for him. What her feelings are right no is a little unclear but we know she hasn't cut him out of her thoughts just yet, and any change of her feelings is just her being sad and and uneasy. Yet her relationship changes with Naruto through out the series. right now she knows Naruto best out of all their peers (of course with the possible exception of Sasuke), plus is also the one that comforts him and encourages him the most . this is see throughout part II and is only not acknowledged by those that feel that Naruto still has not be given justice from her. but hey what can you do? I'm satisfied with what I know, just wished that those pairing hints were not so subtle.     

Edited by Phantom_999, 13 June 2013 - 08:06 PM.

[arian_rad]

Hello, everyone. I would like to share more stuff from NF. A really good friend of mine shared with me the piece of Jiraiya's novel. Note: He said the translation is not the best, so he apologize for any confusion. Credits goes to Kronin. Enjoy.
 
 

That's really good to show that Naruto will not lose bis heart no matter what. It's actually really good evidence to show that he still is in fact in love with sakura and his emotions may even be stronger than ever. However, right now there is a war going on which sucks. There will most likely be no more pairing stuff until that sasuke and naruto battle but it would be cool for sakura to realize in the same way that the one who makes her happy is naruto :)

Edited by arian_rad, 13 June 2013 - 04:40 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

That's really good to show that Naruto lost his heart no matter what. It's actually really good evidence to show that he still is in fact in love with sakura and his emotions may even be stronger than ever. However, right now there is a war going on which sucks. There will most likely be no more pairing stuff until that sasuke and naruto battle but it would be cool for sakura to realize in the same way that the one who makes her happy is naruto :)

Curious, but between Naruto and lost, did you forget to add "will not" in there?

[arian_rad]

Curious, but between Naruto and lost, did you forget to add "will not" in there?

Oh yeah sorry ill edit it

[T XD]

Hello, everyone. I would like to share more stuff from NF. A really good friend of mine shared with me the piece of Jiraiya's novel. Note: He said the translation is not the best, so he apologize for any confusion. Credits goes to Kronin. Enjoy.

 

 

I like this. Where did your friend get this piece from ? From data book or something ?

Edited by T XD, 13 June 2013 - 04:56 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Oh yeah sorry ill edit it

No problem.

 

I like this. Where did your friend get this piece from ? From data book or something ?

Jiraiya's novel. It was released in Germany I believe, so he had a chance to read it.

[bthug]

I think that so too, after what he did to NH killing it in one chapter and Minato coming out from nowhere just to kill that pairing, i have any doubts that he's capable of killing SS on the next chapters instead of milking this until the end of the series i can completely see NS becoming canon before the end of the year.

I agree, with a slight variation. I believe he will indeed end SS soon and make the rest of the series devoted to NS. With it still devloping and finally becoming canon sometime near the end.

[arian_rad]

To me, it seems as though NaruSaku will just be getting boosts from now on throughout the manga. Other people that focus on other pairings for some reason don't understand that this whole manga isn't just about love and that's what throws them off for me. Especially recent sasusaku fans who have been getting the wrong idea. They never even thought that sasuke is still selfish as ever and is only going to think of himself at the end or even how sasuke could become hokage. The only way for this to happen for sasuke would be to kill 2 certain people. Tsunade, and Naruto. Everyone seems to ignore this and this has been on my mind since sasuke entered the battlefield. It really bothers me of the future possibilities and the deaths that could occur in the manga but I do think sasusaku is as close to dying as ever and I don't see it changing at all.

[T XD]

Jiraiya's novel. It was released in Germany I believe, so he had a chance to read it.

I didn't know Jiraiya's novel were being sold for real XD. That's great.

Edited by T XD, 13 June 2013 - 05:12 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I agree, with a slight variation. I believe he will indeed end SS soon and make the rest of the series devoted to NS. With it still devloping and finally becoming canon sometime near the end.

I guess we will be wrong to keep this drama last all the way to end. So pretty much, the only thing to do is have Sakura learn her feelings.

 

I didn't know Jiraiya's novel were being sold for real XD. That's great.

Neither did I. If it's like what's written, perhaps that's why Naruto is more motivated to never give up, especially Sakura's part.