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#2401 BlazingDynamo

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Posted 28 September 2014 - 12:14 AM

Is everyone still angry?



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Posted 28 September 2014 - 12:16 AM

 

I may agree with the last part of your post but the thing about "conflicted feelings deep inside" is pretty almost a quack theory, you know? Because no matter how huch are his deeper feelings are conflited, that was like a simulated homicide, with the most painful modus operandi he could use, killing her with right a pierce into her heart.

 

That's the most cruel blow that she could ever take in her life.

 

Deeper feelings my ass. Sorry the language.

 

you all know what all this remembers me? Kakashi piercing Rin, only except that was the reality, sadly...

 

I understand it can seem to be a crack, but to me, Sasuke looked like kind of touched or sad when he said to her she was annoying.

Don't you think his expression is weird ? He seems a little softened. His words are his same old words, but his expression made me think more, to be honest. I would never say something like some extreme SasuSaku fans are saying, but to me Sasuke still keep Naruto and Sakura in his heart, and he still care about them, despite all he is saying. I know he made Sakura suffer, and I hate him for that. I know he made Naruto suffer, and I know he wants to kill him right now. I hate him for that too. I really don't like this character. But IMO, Kishi will make him regret all this one day. And IMO, there is still something in his heart for Sakura and Naruto. He hesitated when she talked to him. Also, when she was knocked out, and Kakashi talked a little with Sasuke, Sasuke thought about his family. To me, this speaks volumes. I think he assimilates team7 as his family. Also, he knows pretty well he is an avenger, and he knows pretty well he's walking a dark path. I think he's aware of what Naruto feels for her, and I think he's aware of the fact that he's not the one that could make her happy. I sensed this because he said " I don't get what she loves about me ".

 

What he has done to her so far, and what he has done to her right now, in this genjutsu, is cruel and cold. But to me there is something hidden in all this, and maybe that's why SasuSaku fans are still believing in their pairing that much.

 

Because Sasuke looked touched/sad. And because we all know Kishimoto will redeem him. And we all know in the end there will be team7 smiling. Because it as been foreshadowed.


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Posted 28 September 2014 - 12:16 AM

Is everyone still angry?

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Posted 28 September 2014 - 12:16 AM

Is everyone still angry?

Yeah, pretty much


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Posted 28 September 2014 - 12:17 AM

Is everyone still angry?

i think so and they seem to love taking it out on me and everyone else positive and i'm getting sick of it. if i said i didn't mean it and i was freaking joking then i was, good lord.....


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Posted 28 September 2014 - 12:20 AM

i think so and they seem to love taking it out on me

What are you implying? The chapter has anything to do with what i've said. 


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Posted 28 September 2014 - 12:21 AM

I just got off of work and I'm like wow this is still going on.



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Posted 28 September 2014 - 12:21 AM

Sasuke had a smirk on his face when he said that Sakura's annoying... He didn't look touched or sad at all. If he was he wouldn't have put her in a genjutsu that made her experience a stab through the heart. That's brutal. That's cruel. And he didn't hesitate, he was turning around. It was a simple transitional panel.

If Sasuke cared about Team 7 right now, we would know it. And he wouldn't treat them like trash like he is doing now. He will come to care for them again one day, that much is obvious, but right now, he only cares about carrying out his "revolution."

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Posted 28 September 2014 - 12:22 AM

You said you didn't mean that way after justifying yourself instead of just apologasing for you behaviour. 

Good night.

you really must be new to the internet, xD = lol =  :lulz: = luls =laugh out loud in the internet and yet you bash at me for joking......and are you blind? all you guys have been doing is being negative and bashing characters and its author and putting  people down and making negative remarks to users ever since the chapter came out, heck even on the positive thread here http://www.narusaku....ic=14319&page=3


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Posted 28 September 2014 - 12:23 AM

I just got off of work and I'm like wow this is still going on.

It's the Kishimoto effect.


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Posted 28 September 2014 - 12:23 AM

 

I understand it can seem to be a crack, but to me, Sasuke looked like kind of touched or sad when he said to her she was annoying.

Don't you think his expression is weird ? He seems a little softened. His words are his same old words, but his expression made me think more, to be honest. I would never say something like some extreme SasuSaku fans are saying, but to me Sasuke still keep Naruto and Sakura in his heart, and he still care about them, despite all he is saying. I know he made Sakura suffer, and I hate him for that. I know he made Naruto suffer, and I know he wants to kill him right now. I hate him for that too. I really don't like this character. But IMO, Kishi will make him regret all this one day. And IMO, there is still something in his heart for Sakura and Naruto. He hesitated when she talked to him. Also, when she was knocked out, and Kakashi talked a little with Sasuke, Sasuke thought about his family. To me, this speaks volumes. I think he assimilates team7 as his family. Also, he knows pretty well he is an avenger, and he knows pretty well he's walking a dark path. I think he's aware of what Naruto feels for her, and I think he's aware of the fact that he's not the one that could make her happy. I sensed this because he said " I don't get what she loves about me ".

 

What he has done to her so far, and what he has done to her right now, in this genjutsu, is cruel and cold. But to me there is something hidden in all this, and maybe that's why SasuSaku fans are still believing in their pairing that much.

 

Because Sasuke looked touched/sad. And because we all know Kishimoto will redeem him. And we all know in the end there will be team7 smiling. Because it as been foreshadowed.

 

Of course Sasuke cared/still cares for them as comrades. I am just saying that there is no need to justify his action here because he was internally conflicted. That genjutsu speaks volumes too.. He might feels for her some platonic feelings too (by associating the team 7 to his old family). And he was weirdly greening when he said "You are such annoying", I honestly didn't any compassion from him, to me was like a sadistic gree, kinda like Yagami Light.

 

But, just for now, Sasuke only cares about past memories, not present memories. If he cares really about them, he wouldn't never to have declared he wants kill Naruto. Or just giving a cruel way to put Sakura down, killing her through genjutsu. I am sorry, You might be right about Sasuke may have deeper platonic feelings for them but just for now he love the past memories from which he chose to get away for taking power in order to get his revenge. Now it's time of his "Revolution".


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Posted 28 September 2014 - 12:31 AM

this is the internet, people can seem rude when they actually are not, i was not being smart or rude to you at all, you just thought i did because the way i worded it, if you want to be so negative, which you are being, and a jerk to everyone fine, i'll just ignore all the negative comments because i'm sick of it, pretty sure the people in charge of the forum don't like the way you guys are acting either, i'm surprised they haven't done anything about this thread. right, you're understanding of kishimoto, tell me again why you keep hating on him and sakura then and why me and james are some of the only ones that get that this is a shonen and shonens at time don't make sense? do you see me getting upset over it at all? no, you people keep trying to put everyone down about this. plus in my comment i was having a joking attitude, i wasn't actually being serious i was just trying to get you to read the comments, isn't the point of this thread to read the comments and you're complaining about it? 0.0 heck me joking, this face i made "xD" was a dead giveaway, people use it all the time when joking, not everyone uses the emoticons..... heck if you used skype ever, typing it even turns it into an emoticon

 

Thank you for explaining I didn't know I was on the internet. O_o

Maybe I just thought you were rude where you were not because of the way you worded it, but right now you're rude again by saying that " i want to be so negative " and " a jerk ". I repeat : you just don't know me why are you saying this ?

Just excuse me dude but who are you to talk to us like that ?
I'm not hating on Kishimoto, you're inventing things. I'm not hating on Sakura either.

Why are you acting like you are the only one to understand the story ? You are not better than us, you don't speak the ultimate truth dude.
We are just talking within us. Sure there is some people upset, maybe there is some hating. But surely not from me. I'm not hating. Or maybe only Sasuke lol

 

Nobody is trying to "put everyone down". This is not a machination dude. We are just talking within us, sharing our opinions. This time, many readers are upset, so we are talking about it. It's nothing harming really. We are just talking because we like this story, and we don't want it to be ruined.

 

You "was just trying to get me to" what ?

Yes you used and emoticon but it felt you were mocking me dude. You know saying to someone you don't know " read and you'll learn something XD " it feels like a mockery.

 

 

 

i think so and they seem to love taking it out on me and everyone else positive and i'm getting sick of it. if i said i didn't mean it and i was freaking joking then i was, good lord.....

 

You're too self-centered dude. Nobody is taking it out on you.

 

I will end this here.


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Posted 28 September 2014 - 12:33 AM

 

Of course Sasuke cared/still cares for them as comrades. I am just saying that there is no need to justify his action here because he was internally conflicted. That genjutsu speaks volumes too.. He might feels for her some platonic feelings too (by associating the team 7 to his old family). And he was weirdly greening when he said "You are such annoying", I honestly didn't any compassion from him, to me was like a sadistic gree, kinda like Yagami Light.

Sasuke should know a little by experiencing trauma from a genjutsu and now he just did the same thing to Sakura by simulating death in her mind. She poured her heart out and she got cut off by having her life taken away from her in her mind. That's so cruel and f**cked up. 

 

This chapter is so disgusting and Kishi continues to reach low points. The degrading of her character is all for what? Just for some potential development and realization? kitten isn't even worth it.


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Posted 28 September 2014 - 12:35 AM

 

I understand it can seem to be a crack, but to me, Sasuke looked like kind of touched or sad when he said to her she was annoying.

Don't you think his expression is weird ? He seems a little softened. His words are his same old words, but his expression made me think more, to be honest. I would never say something like some extreme SasuSaku fans are saying, but to me Sasuke still keep Naruto and Sakura in his heart, and he still care about them, despite all he is saying. I know he made Sakura suffer, and I hate him for that. I know he made Naruto suffer, and I know he wants to kill him right now. I hate him for that too. I really don't like this character. But IMO, Kishi will make him regret all this one day. And IMO, there is still something in his heart for Sakura and Naruto. He hesitated when she talked to him. Also, when she was knocked out, and Kakashi talked a little with Sasuke, Sasuke thought about his family. To me, this speaks volumes. I think he assimilates team7 as his family. Also, he knows pretty well he is an avenger, and he knows pretty well he's walking a dark path. I think he's aware of what Naruto feels for her, and I think he's aware of the fact that he's not the one that could make her happy. I sensed this because he said " I don't get what she loves about me ".

 

What he has done to her so far, and what he has done to her right now, in this genjutsu, is cruel and cold. But to me there is something hidden in all this, and maybe that's why SasuSaku fans are still believing in their pairing that much.

 

Because Sasuke looked touched/sad. And because we all know Kishimoto will redeem him. And we all know in the end there will be team7 smiling. Because it as been foreshadowed.

 

Kishimoto has already worked out how he is going to justify Sasuke's actions. So yeah, anything that you feel is touching or a hidden sentiment is probably right on. It's the foreshadowing that Kishi is going to use to redeem Sasuke. Because it's going to happen, sooner or later, Kishi's going to redeem him. 



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Posted 28 September 2014 - 12:37 AM

you really must be new to the internet, xD = lol =  :lulz: = luls =laugh out loud in the internet and yet you bash at me for joking......and are you blind? all you guys have been doing is being negative and bashing characters and its author and putting  people down and making negative remarks to users ever since the chapter came out, heck even on the positive thread here http://www.narusaku....ic=14319&page=3

I know what that means. But the context matter, also "xD" is not everything what you have said. Or your post are "xD xD xD xD" without any word? Re-read and realize why you were being rude. I'm not bashing you. But I'm not letting you go that easily. Even in the internet you should treat everyone with respect. If you don't do that, don't expect it from anyone either. 

 

I agree that people are being negative, but everyone has the right of express their opinions. And if someone in that thread is being negative when the title is "Post only positive (...)", then you have the right to call it out. Here, they can do that, but even in that case they must be respectful toward everyone when expressing their opinions. If not, someone will call them out, or simply just leave of this thread.


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Posted 28 September 2014 - 12:37 AM

Sasuke had a smirk on his face when he said that Sakura's annoying... He didn't look touched or sad at all. If he was he wouldn't have put her in a genjutsu that made her experience a stab through the heart. That's brutal. That's cruel. And he didn't hesitate, he was turning around. It was a simple transitional panel.

If Sasuke cared about Team 7 right now, we would know it. And he wouldn't treat them like trash like he is doing now. He will come to care for them again one day, that much is obvious, but right now, he only cares about carrying out his "revolution."

 

IDK i find his face weird. He seems kind of softened to me.

Also, it's possible he wanted to make her shut up because what she was saying was remembering him painful feelings about his family.
Maybe "killing her" is his way of killing that painful feeling. IDK...

You know me, I'm not trying to excuse Sasuke, I'm just trying to understand Kishimoto, what he's doing, and what he will do in the future. And this is what I see. Don't really know why ^^'


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Posted 28 September 2014 - 12:37 AM

 

Thank you for explaining I didn't know I was on the internet. O_o

Maybe I just thought you were rude where you were not because of the way you worded it, but right now you're rude again by saying that " i want to be so negative " and " a jerk ". I repeat : you just don't know me why are you saying this ?

Just excuse me dude but who are you to talk to us like that ?
I'm not hating on Kishimoto, you're inventing things. I'm not hating on Sakura either.

Why are you acting like you are the only one to understand the story ? You are not better than us, you don't speak the ultimate truth dude.
We are just talking within us. Sure there is some people upset, maybe there is some hating. But surely not from me. I'm not hating. Or maybe only Sasuke lol

 

Nobody is trying to "put everyone down". This is not a machination dude. We are just talking within us, sharing our opinions. This time, many readers are upset, so we are talking about it. It's nothing harming really. We are just talking because we like this story, and we don't want it to be ruined.

 

You "was just trying to get me to" what ?

Yes you used and emoticon but it felt you were mocking me dude. You know saying to someone you don't know " read and you'll learn something XD " it feels like a mockery.

 

 

 

 

You're too self-centered dude. Nobody is taking it out on you.

 

I will end this here.

ever think maybe i am bad with social skills and word things wrong but mean something else? i'm self centered now? excuse me for having autism and not being good with words or social skills.  not my fault you can't see my face because this is the internet and it makes people's comments seem more vague than they are to where people take them the wrong way, its why i prefer being in a skype call with my friends than typing to them.good lord.....right another rude comment, someone callign people who actually comprehend it dumb, that just proves my point about the "negative remakes to users" i'm leaving, i'll be back next week when the chapter comes out and the raws come out and you guys are calming down.....


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Posted 28 September 2014 - 12:38 AM

Finally caught up to you guys.

Now after reading all the comments here and reading the chapter a couple of times. I came to simple conclusion.

That I'm not dumb enough to understand what Kishi was thinking or his intent when he wrote this chapter.

My brain can not comprehend the stupidity of what happened.


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Posted 28 September 2014 - 12:42 AM

 

Of course Sasuke cared/still cares for them as comrades. I am just saying that there is no need to justify his action here because he was internally conflicted. That genjutsu speaks volumes too.. He might feels for her some platonic feelings too (by associating the team 7 to his old family). And he was weirdly greening when he said "You are such annoying", I honestly didn't any compassion from him, to me was like a sadistic gree, kinda like Yagami Light.

 

But, just for now, Sasuke only cares about past memories, not present memories. If he cares really about them, he wouldn't never to have declared he wants kill Naruto. Or just giving a cruel way to put Sakura down, killing her through genjutsu. I am sorry, You might be right about Sasuke may have deeper platonic feelings for them but just for now he love the past memories from which he chose to get away for taking power in order to get his revenge. Now it's time of his "Revolution".

 

Ah I don't really want to justify his actions, I'm just trying to analyse you know ^^'

 

I don't think he felt compassion for Sakura, but I think he felt some sadness in regard of the past, something like that. And to me, the violence he displayed on Sakura in the genjutsu is in fact deployed against the painful feeling she brings to him. It's the same with Naruto. He wants to annihilate him because he remember him painful things, IMO.

To me, Sasuke is a very egoistic man, and he rejects most of his feelings. 


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Posted 28 September 2014 - 12:45 AM

ever think maybe i am bad with social skills and word things wrong but mean something else? i'm self centered now? excuse me for having autism and not being good with words or social skills.  not my fault you can't see my face because this is the internet and it makes people's comments seem more vague than they are to where people take them the wrong way, its why i prefer being in a skype call with my friends than typing to them.good lord.....

Dude, you can have bad social skills and still not being a brat. If someone is asking you to stop treating them like the way you are doing, you can't understand that? But you keep doing it. First time, okay. Second time, i've told you. Third, what are you expecting?

You can't justify everything with what you have. 

It's true that internet may have to do with something, but when people have already pointed what you are doing, you don't have excuses.


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