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#2381 James S Cassidy

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Posted 27 September 2014 - 10:46 PM

I wish I knew that I just feel so down man, very very down right now. To me I fear Sakura will never mean that much to him than Sasuke does and sadly if he does marry Sakura he will be Sasuke before her and before their kids. I mean in real life and in other fiction even the people put their family first,

 

That is sadly true

 

I know how you feel. Trust me, I do and I agree that this entire story could have been handled much better, but to me this does not change the end result. Naruto needs to let go of Sasuke and understand that Sasuke needs to figure life on his own. This fight is not just a lesson for Sasuke, but a lesson for Naruto as well. Naruto needs to understand that not everything is going to go his way and there are things far beyond Sasuke that he cannot control.

This doesn't mean Naruto shouldn't fight. It just means that even Naruto needs to better understand the people he deals with. Remember, the entire concept is that people have to understand each other. Naruto doesn't understand Sasuke yet because they haven't really clashed all that often. Not really.

 

 

 

 

 

I am sorry but I must to quote a beautiful quote I read on ASS FC from NF.

 

 

This, plus...what the hell are people thinking? This is true love to them? I'm sorry, but I would love for them to act the same way to the ones they are shy or apparently in love with and see what others think. What next, they want Hinata to beat the kitten out of Naruto and castrate him to show how much she cares?


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Posted 27 September 2014 - 10:49 PM

 

I know how you feel. Trust me, I do and I agree that this entire story could have been handled much better, but to me this does not change the end result. Naruto needs to let go of Sasuke and understand that Sasuke needs to figure life on his own. This fight is not just a lesson for Sasuke, but a lesson for Naruto as well. Naruto needs to understand that not everything is going to go his way and there are things far beyond Sasuke that he cannot control.

This doesn't mean Naruto shouldn't fight. It just means that even Naruto needs to better understand the people he deals with. Remember, the entire concept is that people have to understand each other. Naruto doesn't understand Sasuke. Not really.

 

 

 

 

 

 

This, plus...what the hell are people thinking? This is true love to them? I'm sorry, but I would love for them to act the same way to the ones they are shy or apparently in love with and see what others think. What next, they want Hinata to beat the kitten out of Naruto and castrate him to show how much she cares?

pretty much sadly james, that's how they acted to yandere hinata in road to ninja remember? they actually supported psycho hinata.....


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Posted 27 September 2014 - 10:50 PM

 

I know how you feel. Trust me, I do and I agree that this entire story could have been handled much better, but to me this does not change the end result. Naruto needs to let go of Sasuke and understand that Sasuke needs to figure life on his own. This fight is not just a lesson for Sasuke, but a lesson for Naruto as well. Naruto needs to understand that not everything is going to go his way and there are things far beyond Sasuke that he cannot control.

This doesn't mean Naruto shouldn't fight. It just means that even Naruto needs to better understand the people he deals with. Remember, the entire concept is that people have to understand each other. Naruto doesn't understand Sasuke. Not really.

 

Yeah your right all we need to do is wait and pray to god that Kishi will wake up, I know that this weeks podcast will be interesting to hear that might make me smile.



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Posted 27 September 2014 - 10:54 PM

naruto moves as fast as his dad now, maybe faster, sasuke maybe got a speed buff as one of the sage powers

 

With his chakra modes, yes, but he traveled all the way to the VotE in base. Base Naruto isn't exactly recognised for his speed. What feats does he have? Keeping pace with God Realm in taijutsu and intercepting a weary, half-blinded Sasuke while in midswing is all that comes to mind. Those are far-cries from equaling what Minato's Flying Thunder God speed (which is instantaneous) and his Shunshin have accomplished - even Base Minato is debatable. 

 

It's no surprise that Sasuke's power up would come packaged with a technique that emphasises precision through quickness. Speed is one of the few traits of Sasuke's that's remained consistent since overcoming Haku with it (no mirrors obviously). 



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Posted 27 September 2014 - 10:54 PM

instead of replying to that comment and being negative, why don't you read his latest comment lol, you'll learn something

 

Excuse me dude but I answer to what comment I want, and I give the opinion I want to give about it. You find it negative, well sorry but I will continue to post what I want to. I don't need someone else to tell me to read some precise comment. I'm reading all the pages when I can, and I answer to what I want when I am able to.


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Posted 27 September 2014 - 10:55 PM

So in kishi's eyes, only sasuke being good can naruto and sakura love each other? This is going to happen in one day (manga) and she couldn't get over him over all these years?

Kishi is a coward. He has to wait until the very end of the manga to have sakura to not love sasuke in one day.

I can't believe this is over before the movie. What rush job.

I am so disappointed.

It's all for the suspense, but look how it's turned out because of the suspense building. Sakura has loved Sasuke for almost the entirety of the series and Naruto can only have her love only when the series is over. What makes it worse is that she had little reason to love Sasuke for this long. 

 

Sakura must have padded up her love with lots of armor because it's unbelievable that her love endured for this long. 


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Posted 27 September 2014 - 10:56 PM

Agree with this. 

 

NS will be canon no doubt, but I can't see it being as well written as I once thought it would be.  Fans will be forced to think of complicated explanations and hope Kishimoto meant it that way. Anything to make the execution of NS seem satisfactory.

 

Hmmm.. You are the third or fourth member here to say something like this. I guess not many care about the fight. :sweat: Probably because everyone knows what the outcome will be, right?

 

Yes, that's why. And also, I was never interested by this "brother" rivalry. What I like in this story, is Naruto.


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Posted 27 September 2014 - 10:57 PM

 

With his chakra modes, yes, but he traveled all the way to the VotE in base. Base Naruto isn't exactly recognised for his speed. What feats does he have? Keeping pace with God Realm in taijutsu and intercepting a weary, half-blinded Sasuke while in midswing is all that comes to mind. Those are far-cries from equaling what Minato's Flying Thunder God speed (which is instantaneous) and his Shunshin have accomplished - even Base Minato is debatable. 

 

It's no surprise that Sasuke's power up would come packaged with a technique that emphasises precision through quickness. Speed is one of the few traits of Sasuke's that's remained consistent since overcoming Haku with it (no mirrors obviously). 

how do you know he didn't turn into chakra mode, was the entire journey shown? no it wasn't, therefore he could've, either way this is a shonen, of course it isn't gonna make sense.

 

 

 

 

Excuse me dude but I answer to what comment I want, and I give the opinion I want to give about it. You find it negative, well find sorry but I will continue to post what I want to. I don't need someone else to tell me to read some precise comment. I'm reading all the pages when I can, and I answer to what I want when I am able to.

excuse me??!!! i was trying to get you to read the comments because i thought they may lift up your spirits! forget it, i'm done with this forum for a while, since all you guys want to do is be negative and hateful!!! james is pretty much the only exception i've seen right now so i'll talk to him if he sends me any messages or anyone that sends me positive messages but other than that i'm done here. if i missed anyone positive keep in mind the replies are pretty fast and there is so many pages of a lot of comments to go through xD i mean its already 123 pages


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Posted 27 September 2014 - 11:00 PM

come on guys... no need to have a such behaviors....


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Posted 27 September 2014 - 11:26 PM

 

I am sorry but I must to quote a beautiful quote I read on ASS FC from NF.

 

 

I don't think it was an act of mercy. There is a lot of violence in it. But I think Sasuke has conflicted feelings deep inside. And I think he didn't want ther to burst in the middle of their fight and risking her life.


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Posted 27 September 2014 - 11:26 PM

how do you know he didn't turn into chakra mode, was the entire journey shown? no it wasn't, therefore he could've, either way this is a shonen, of course it isn't gonna make sense

 

Is there anything to prove that he did? Why would he waste valuable chakra traveling to his destination when it's likely that he'll need every bit of energy he can muster in his upcoming fight with Sasuke? Still, this could all be written off as a tool of convenience for Kishi to progress the story as quickly as possible. There's really no explanation to justify Base Naruto reaching the VotE at exactly the same time as Sasuke with his Sharinnegan activated, unless they purposefully knew to hinder themselves to keep at a similar pace with each other.

 

Why they would leave the area where the Shinju has the Alliance captured is another mystery. The world's population is being slowly transformed into grotesque Zetsu clones, so they can't afford to take too long in fighting each other. They might be quick enough to return before the transformation is finished, but if they're weakened and exhausted from fighting each other that complicates matters, unless Sakura turns up to heal them. 



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Posted 27 September 2014 - 11:35 PM

excuse me??!!! i was trying to get you to read the comments because i thought they may lift up your spirits! forget it, i'm done with this forum for a while, since all you guys want to do is be negative and hateful!!! james is pretty much the only exception i've seen right now so i'll talk to him if he sends me any messages or anyone that sends me positive messages but other than that i'm done here. if i missed anyone positive keep in mind the replies are pretty fast and there is so many pages of a lot of comments to go through xD i mean its already 123 pages

 

"lift up my spirit" ? LOL excuse me but your post was kind of rude. You said to me I was negative, and that I would learn something by reading one comment.

This thread is here for us to talk about the chapter, so we have the right to talk, even if this is about things we didn't like, or didn't understand.
I'm of the people the more understanding toward Kishimoto and his work, I'm always prompt to defend him, so saying to me that I'm negative was wrong and rude. You don't know me you're kind of new here. So I would suggest you to learn to know people before giving rude advice to them. Just stay at your place please.


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Posted 27 September 2014 - 11:38 PM

 
Is there anything to prove that he did? Why would he waste valuable chakra traveling to his destination when it's likely that he'll need every bit of energy he can muster in his upcoming fight with Sasuke? Still, this could all be written off as a tool of convenience for Kishi to progress the story as quickly as possible. There's really no explanation to justify Base Naruto reaching the VotE at exactly the same time as Sasuke with his Sharinnegan activated, unless they purposefully knew to hinder themselves to keep at a similar pace with each other.
 
Why they would leave the area where the Shinju has the Alliance captured is another mystery. The world's population is being slowly transformed into grotesque Zetsu clones, so they can't afford to take too long in fighting each other. They might be quick enough to return before the transformation is finished, but if they're weakened and exhausted from fighting each other that complicates matters, unless Sakura turns up to heal them. 


Do we know for sure how far VoTE is from the Shinju and everything else that happened? It mightve been a five, ten minute ninja dash for all we know.

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Posted 27 September 2014 - 11:42 PM

 

I don't think it was an act of mercy. There is a lot of violence in it. But I think Sasuke has conflicted feelings deep inside. And I think he didn't want ther to burst in the middle of their fight and risking her life.

 

I may agree with the last part of your post but the thing about "conflicted feelings deep inside" is pretty almost a quack theory, you know? Because no matter how huch are his deeper feelings are conflited, that was like a simulated homicide, with the most painful modus operandi he could use, killing her with right a pierce into her heart.

 

That's the most cruel blow that she could ever take in her life.

 

Deeper feelings my ass. Sorry the language.

 

you all know what all this remembers me? Kakashi piercing Rin, only except that was the reality, sadly...


Edited by 六道仙人, 27 September 2014 - 11:51 PM.

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Posted 27 September 2014 - 11:46 PM

 

"lift up my spirit" ? LOL excuse me but your post was kind of rude. You said to me I was negative, and that I would learn something by reading one comment.

This thread is here for us to talk about the chapter, so we have the right to talk, even if this is about things we didn't like, or didn't understand.
I'm of the people the more understanding toward Kishimoto and his work, I'm always prompt to defend him, so saying to me that I'm negative was wrong and rude. You don't know me you're kind of new here. So I would suggest you to learn to know people before giving rude advice to them. Just stay at your place please.

this is the internet, people can seem rude when they actually are not, i was not being smart or rude to you at all, you just thought i did because the way i worded it, if you want to be so negative, which you are being, and a jerk to everyone fine, i'll just ignore all the negative comments because i'm sick of it, pretty sure the people in charge of the forum don't like the way you guys are acting either, i'm surprised they haven't done anything about this thread. right, you're understanding of kishimoto, tell me again why you keep hating on him and sakura then and why me and james are some of the only ones that get that this is a shonen and shonens at time don't make sense? do you see me getting upset over it at all? no, you people keep trying to put everyone down about this. plus in my comment i was having a joking attitude, i wasn't actually being serious i was just trying to get you to read the comments, isn't the point of this thread to read the comments and you're complaining about it? 0.0 heck me joking, this face i made "xD" was a dead giveaway, people use it all the time when joking, not everyone uses the emoticons..... heck if you used skype ever, typing it even turns it into an emoticon


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Posted 28 September 2014 - 12:04 AM

Do we know for sure how far VoTE is from the Shinju and everything else that happened? It mightve been a five, ten minute ninja dash for all we know.

 

Not if this war is still taking place in the Land of Lightning. That's three countries worth of distance between the Shinju's base and the VotE. Logically, it should still take several hours to reach the valley from the Rain country. VotE is situated on the border between the Fire country and Otogakure. Traveling from Konoha to Sunagakure required a three day trip during the Kazekage Rescue arc (that was at top speed as well), even a fraction of that time equals more time than what it apparently took for Naruto and Sasuke to reach their destination. It can be written off as part of Kishi's suspension of disbelief though.   


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Posted 28 September 2014 - 12:07 AM

 
Not if this war is still taking place in the Land of Lightning. That's three countries worth of distance between the Shinju's base and the VotE. Logically, it should still take several hours to reach the valley from the Rain country. VotE is situated on the border between the Fire country and Otogakure. Traveling from Konoha to Sunagakure required a three day trip during the Kazekage Rescue arc (that was at top speed as well), even a fraction of that time equals more time than what it apparently took for Naruto and Sasuke. It can be written off as part of Kishi's suspension of disbelief though.   


Whelp, methinks its time to admit that its just shonen time. Though Kaguya's dimension hopping could technically have tossed them back out anywhere. Ah well. Its manga. Wo t makwle sense.

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Posted 28 September 2014 - 12:09 AM

this is the internet, people can seem rude when they actually are not, i was not being smart or rude to you at all, you just thought i did because the way i worded it, if you want to be so negative, which you are being, and a jerk to everyone fine, i'll just ignore all the negative comments because i'm sick of it, pretty sure the people in charge of the forum don't like the way you guys are acting either, i'm surprised they haven't done anything about this thread. right, you're understanding of kishimoto, tell me again why you keep hating on him and sakura then and why me and james are some of the only ones that get that this is a shonen and shonens at time don't make sense? do you see me getting upset over it at all? no, you people keep trying to put everyone down about this. plus in my comment i was having a joking attitude, i wasn't actually being serious i was just trying to get you to read the comments, isn't the point of this thread to read the comments and you're complaining about it? 0.0 heck me joking, this face i made "xD" was a dead giveaway, people use it all the time when joking, not everyone uses the emoticons..... heck if you used skype ever, typing it even turns it into an emoticon

You were being rude. You don't need to use those words. If you don't know how to argue properly, then don't do it, because we are not obligated to take your kitten and let you treat any of us with disrespect. If they are asking you to stop being a brat, then at least think what have you done instead of justifying yourself and implying they are being sensible.


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Posted 28 September 2014 - 12:11 AM

You were being rude. You don't need to use those words. If you don't know how to argue properly, then don't do it, because we are not obligated to take your kitten and let you treat any of us with disrespect. If they are asking you to stop being a brat, then at least think what have you done instead of justifying yourself and implying they are being sensible.

i said i didn't mean it that way, seriously what is you and everyone else's problem? forget it, i'm leaving, tired of this negative crap.....you're one to talk anyway and are much newer than me,i joined years ago and have been part of the internet even longer, are you new to the internet or something? people say stuff and people take it the wrong way all the time on the internet, the internet is crazy, it isn't like the real world it can be much worse, so excuse me for trying to joke around with freaking internet lingo.......


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Posted 28 September 2014 - 12:13 AM

i said i didn't mean it that way, seriously what is you and everyone else's problem? forget it, i'm leaving, tired of this negative crap.....

You said you didn't mean that way after justifying yourself instead of just apologasing for you behaviour. 

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