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Posted 12 June 2013 - 08:44 PM

Well, it seems like the latest chapter is causing a huge scares for SS. I won't go further detail, but I can understand why. I understand one would suggests that Sasuke could go 630 route, only about Sasuke, but that's different. The main problem is that Juugo and Sai are the ones saying it, whom they are connected to Sasuke, more or less. To make matter worse, Sai asked Juugo out of all people because he's in his team and he knows that they are connected with this whole ordeal. It's not about doubting Sasuke, it's about what's already in him waiting to be revealed. Time is ticking.



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 08:53 PM

Sasuke-sama is going to do some things worthy of a timeout. And I want Sakura to hit him.

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:00 PM

Well, it seems like the latest chapter is causing a huge scares for SS. I won't go further detail, but I can understand why. I understand one would suggests that Sasuke could go 630 route, only about Sasuke, but that's different. The main problem is that Juugo and Sai are the ones saying it, whom they are connected to Sasuke, more or less. To make matter worse, Sai asked Juugo out of all people because he's in his team and he knows that they are connected with this whole ordeal. It's not about doubting Sasuke, it's about what's already in him waiting to be revealed. Time is ticking.

 

There is something that has been troubling me. Despite Juugo's professed loyalty to Sasuke it's been proven that he is capable of independent thought or coming to his own decisions without his companion's successor's approval. With this mind I have to ask what Juugo's personal thoughts on the matter are. Like how would he possibly react if Sasuke were to act against the alliance forces? Would he simply alter his allegiances as well and begin attacking those around him or can he finally realize that his leader's state of mind is so unpredictable that even he can't follow or abide by whatever course of action Sasuke decides to take several moments later?



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:03 PM

 

There is something that has been troubling me. Despite Juugo's professed loyalty to Sasuke it's been proven that he is capable of independent thought or coming to his own decisions without his companion's successor's approval. With this mind I have to ask what Juugo's personal thoughts on the matter are. Like how would he possibly react if Sasuke were to act against the alliance forces? Would he simply alter his allegiances as well and begin attacking those around him or can he finally realize that his leader's state of mind is so unpredictable that even he can't follow or abide by whatever course of action Sasuke decides to take several moments later?

Remember, Juugo is loyal to Sasuke. He already said many times that his life is Sasuke. He's like a knight to a king. He has a thought of his own, but he's pretty much on standby until Sasuke possibly signal him to take action. I do think only Sasuke and Orochimaru may be the only one that know the plan, while others are following orders.



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:08 PM

Remember, Juugo is loyal to Sasuke. He already said many times that his life is Sasuke. He's like a knight to a king. He has a thought of his own, but he's pretty much on standby until Sasuke possibly signal him to take action. I do think only Sasuke and Orochimaru may be the only one that know the plan, while others are following orders.

Since there's an amount of time between the kages arrival and Sasuke but still, Juugo has no clues about what Sasuke is planning so...
Miight be there no plan just Sasuke and Orochimaru due to their relationship between Master and Student are capable of understanding each other, now Orochimaru is supporting Sasuke may because he believes Sasuke is capable of surpassing him.

 

But i dont know can be Kishimoto trolling and the editor's note most of the times has nothing to do with the next chapter.


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Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:15 PM

Since there's an amount of time between the kages arrival and Sasuke but still, Juugo has no clues about what Sasuke is planning so...
Miight be there no plan just Sasuke and Orochimaru due to their relationship between Master and Student are capable of understanding each other, now Orochimaru is supporting Sasuke may because he believes Sasuke is capable of surpassing him.

 

But i dont know can be Kishimoto trolling and the editor's note most of the times has nothing to do with the next chapter.

Next chapter is going to be a breaking point. I do think he will heal Tsunade but at what cost.



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:19 PM

Next chapter is going to be a breaking point. I do think he will heal Tsunade but at what cost.

I still didnt forget when Sasuke appeared on the war arc the editor note said "Butchery has reached the battlefield", next chapter he kills 5 zetsus and goes after Itachi -,-.


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Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:22 PM

I still didnt forget when Sasuke appeared on the war arc the editor note said "Butchery has reached the battlefield", next chapter he kills 5 zetsus and goes after Itachi -,-.

I wasn't basing on the editor note, I'm basing on Orochimaru's arrival to Tsunade and the fact chapter 8 is essential to be a plot twist/turning point moment.

Technically, the editor was right though. He was on battlefield but never said battlefield to kill the alliance.

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:22 PM

Remember, Juugo is loyal to Sasuke. He already said many times that his life is Sasuke. He's like a knight to a king. He has a thought of his own, but he's pretty much on standby until Sasuke possibly signal him to take action. I do think only Sasuke and Orochimaru may be the only one that know the plan, while others are following orders.

 

So from what is being implied here it appears as though Juugo will begin to relentlessly attack everyone around him without a single thought given to question why he is attacking the forces whom he was allied with only a moment before. Well I suppose he could be classified as being one of the most impressionable characters that this manga has introduced. It's obvious that Juugo does have some inkling into Sasuke's mindset, otherwise he would not even be aware of his unpredictable mentality. Still, I'm beginning to wonder what his role is now aside from acting as an indiscriminate attack dog commanded by his master.



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 10:02 PM

This is getting interesting as we are close to the end of the volume. I don't know if Sasuke will expose his plan in this volume or wait until the next. Whatever it is, it's not looking good. The panel of him saying burn was already bad because his darkness was shown after so long, especially after all the poker face he put up in the whole volume. I mean would you say burn in that look? I guess that's why MP put Naruto vs. Sasuke fanart because they are sensing that it's coming. Next chapter is going to be really interesting.



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 11:19 PM

Well, it seems like the latest chapter is causing a huge scares for SS. I won't go further detail, but I can understand why. I understand one would suggests that Sasuke could go 630 route, only about Sasuke, but that's different. The main problem is that Juugo and Sai are the ones saying it, whom they are connected to Sasuke, more or less. To make matter worse, Sai asked Juugo out of all people because he's in his team and he knows that they are connected with this whole ordeal. It's not about doubting Sasuke, it's about what's already in him waiting to be revealed. Time is ticking.

 

SS has some reason to be scared, remember what happened to Sakura last time, despite still loving him, if Sasuke's true motives end up being the same as Madaras, reasons that would result in more chaos than anticipated, endangering what naruto is striving to stop, then Sakura obviously would want no part in it, she is not going to revert or betray everything for a love she herself knows she struggled with. If it turns out Sasuke pulls a "join me luke and together we can rule the galaxy" type ordeal, you can expect Sakura to just step back and say no, this is not right. Sasuke wanting to be hokage did set up a reason for the final fight but its also being done for the wrong reasons, Naruto knows the right reasons to become hokage. If Sasuke lead, it would only create more chaos, Naruto learned what he had to in order to change the shinobi world, Sasuke is still arrogant as ever. For SS, this can be a moment of crisis, if Sakura's panel on the last page is referring to Sasuke, then it could again mean she is antipating or sensing something is off with Sasuke, otherwise her reaction could be from Katusyu if a part of her remained with Tsunade. If Sakura learned of Tsunade's fate and Orochimaru, well many are saying Orochimaru will reveal Sasuke's motives. Either path we go, if its Sakura involved herself or if she learns by Katusyu over long distance, she still will be impacted by this.



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 11:39 PM

 
SS has some reason to be scared, remember what happened to Sakura last time, despite still loving him, if Sasuke's true motives end up being the same as Madaras, reasons that would result in more chaos than anticipated, endangering what naruto is striving to stop, then Sakura obviously would want no part in it, she is not going to revert or betray everything for a love she herself knows she struggled with. If it turns out Sasuke pulls a "join me luke and together we can rule the galaxy" type ordeal, you can expect Sakura to just step back and say no, this is not right. Sasuke wanting to be hokage did set up a reason for the final fight but its also being done for the wrong reasons, Naruto knows the right reasons to become hokage. If Sasuke lead, it would only create more chaos, Naruto learned what he had to in order to change the shinobi world, Sasuke is still arrogant as ever. For SS, this can be a moment of crisis, if Sakura's panel on the last page is referring to Sasuke, then it could again mean she is antipating or sensing something is off with Sasuke, otherwise her reaction could be from Katusyu if a part of her remained with Tsunade. If Sakura learned of Tsunade's fate and Orochimaru, well many are saying Orochimaru will reveal Sasuke's motives. Either path we go, if its Sakura involved herself or if she learns by Katusyu over long distance, she still will be impacted by this.


I know what you mean. The fact that I actually checked around and a lot of them are very worried about the next event. One even said that if he betray now or really soon, that person will become NS fan since doing that will result NS. Anyway, it's only matter of time.

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 11:41 PM

If events like we predict come up and then we get an event (something like the forehead stuff) anything that seals the deal, would that technically make it so we cannot have a debate thread anymore?



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 11:42 PM

I know what you mean. The fact that I actually checked around and a lot of them are very worried about the next event. One even said that if he betray now or really soon, that person will become NS fan since doing that will result NS. Anyway, it's only matter of time.

Switching pairings for the wrong reason, besides ss never had a chance.



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 11:47 PM

I know what you mean. The fact that I actually checked around and a lot of them are very worried about the next event. One even said that if he betray now or really soon, that person will become NS fan since doing that will result NS. Anyway, it's only matter of time.

Actually i doesnt even care, if Sakura has to move on then it was because of Sasuke's personality she cant love someome she doesnt trust and how she's more attached to Naruto and his persona than Sasuke 'swhich even when they fought together proved that, doesnt make sense if he betrays again woudl result on NS, that's not the point.

It's much like her development on this arc and how 540 is mirroring now, Naruto and Sasuke being put on a balance right on her own eyes.
First started with Naruto saving everyone and leading the army and witnessing Naruto's development on this arc, in constrast with Sauske who suddenly arrived after doing a lot of bad things, saying wants to become hokage and doesnt care about what the other's think and other stuff, also in contrast with Sakura's development which was very selfless done, she got a powerup because sought Naruto's acknowledgement then she acknowledges herself.

More and more Sakura's development is putting an huge distance towards her and Sasuke because more more it's getting obvious that Sakura does not fit with Sasuke, her character and her own personality and concept does not match up with him.

doenst make sense to make Sakura as very selfless person like Naruto and similar to Naruto's mother to match up with a very selfish guy that reminds of a snake.

 


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Posted 12 June 2013 - 11:48 PM

Switching pairings for the wrong reason, besides ss never had a chance.

Yeah but I guess it takes a realization to make it covert.

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 11:56 PM

If events like we predict come up and then we get an event (something like the forehead stuff) anything that seals the deal, would that technically make it so we cannot have a debate thread anymore?

:omfg: Well has this thread really been used for NaruSaku debates lately. Recently people just talk about what might happen and do little debating about the pairing. But then again I haven't looked at all the pages so maybe i'm wrong.



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Posted 13 June 2013 - 12:00 AM

If events like we predict come up and then we get an event (something like the forehead stuff) anything that seals the deal, would that technically make it so we cannot have a debate thread anymore?


Don't see why we won't be able to. Instead of debating how NS will happen, we can debate what events and clues made it happen. Plus, there will probably be plenty of trolls that we will have to defend ourselves from. The day NS happens will be the biggest party/argument ever.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 12:37 AM

Don't see why we won't be able to. Instead of debating how NS will happen, we can debate what events and clues made it happen. Plus, there will probably be plenty of trolls that we will have to defend ourselves from. The day NS happens will be the biggest party/argument ever.

 

If that happened, I would take the picture of NS becoming canon and put this in it:

 

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 12:46 AM

 

If that happened, I would take the picture of NS becoming canon and put this in it:

 

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I refuse to look ahhhh it burns! It can't be Cannon!






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