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[ciardha]

Hate to break it to you cutie but you and Sasuke were never close to grow apart in the first place. You loved the idea of Sasuke, you never really knew him, or how he ticked to say it was love in the first place...*remembers her confession to Sasuke* boy did I want to punch her then, prepared to abandon her friends and village for him, wondered what would happen if Naruto or any other Konoha Nin found out about that tidbit.

Well if the translation is correct, I don't really blame Naruto for thinking she is lying, (which she probably is, Not saying she isn't in love with Naruto but I don't believe she's come to the realisation herself on how much she loves the blonde, more come to the realisation she needs to give up on the fantasy of Genjutsu Sasuke, who only really exists in her mind.) The speech patterns and wording seems like she was trying to convince herself more than Naruto about her feelings, and Naruto picked up on that.

She needs to take a step back and really think about things clearly, at the moment her resolve is of a loyal Konoha nin, a best friend and teamate who she wants to save Naruto from any frther heartache being caused because of her promise. Basically sounds like she's doing what she thinks is right, her feelings did not need to come into play just yet, If she'd just told him the Rookie 11's decision and her feelings about Sasuke it would probably be of the better, maybe leave the door open for them furthering their relationship, but and out and out confession after telling him not to worry about going after Sasuke when his last memory of her was her crying over Sasuke. No one is going to beleive you are being honest, not when you were crying over someone else not even 48 hours ago.

If her feelings are genuine or not who knows, but I don't think her confession was.

Hoo boy we've got a troll.

[Cloud]

Hoo boy we've got a troll.

Oro?

[AnimeLeader]

Better than all the NaruHina fans at all the blog websites they're seriously making me LOL myself, so now "apparently the manga doesn't mean anything" XD

[Chew]

Better than all the NaruHina fans at all the blog websites they're seriously making me LOL myself, so now "apparently the manga doesn't mean anything" XD

Next thing you know Kishi will be holding a press conference and it still won't mean anything. XD

[dl316bh]

Better than all the NaruHina fans at all the blog websites they're seriously making me LOL myself, so now "apparently the manga doesn't mean anything" XD

I've run across this attitude before in another fandom. It's a last ditch response when it finally sinks in that the source (comic, manga or whatever else) is going to go in the exact direction they've tried so hard to convince themselves would not happen. If anything, it's a form of acceptance; to say it doesn't count, they must first acknowledge what it means, after all.

Deep down they know that line of BS doesn't wash, because the anime is the only other thing and there's no getting around the fact that it's going to follow whatever the manga does. But in truth, it's expected. At that point they really don't have anything left and grasp at the last straw they can.

Thank you! That's pretty darn close to what I was going to say. It's so exasperating!

Frustrating, innit? I think I've slowly been losing my patience for needless panicking. I've seen so much of it that my tolerance for it's dropped significantly.

Edited by dl316bh, 28 October 2009 - 03:30 AM.

[AnimeLeader]

Yeah and thats the sad part of it, everyone is too stubborn to believe in the truth. Its becoming another Harry Potter as I have said before.

[Strangelove]

Next thing you know Kishi will be holding a press conference and it still won't mean anything. XD

Lol Kishi could put Naruto and Sakura behind a bush and start to shake it, and that still wouldn't mean anything. The manga could end with Naruto and Sakura hand in hand with young children, and that still wouldn't mean anything.

Edited by Strangelove, 28 October 2009 - 03:21 AM.

[Derock]

Yeah and thats the sad part of it, everyone is too stubborn to believe in the truth. Its becoming another Harry Potter as I have said before.

You meant every form of entertainment in the mainstream...

That doesn't include only Harry Potter: Avatar, Bleach, Sonic, the list goes on and on...

[Evil Potato]

I think I finally understand why Naruto is so angry. ( sorry if this is like some of you guy's other post's )

Sakura may truly be lying to herself. In a desperate attempt to end Naruto's pain and make him happy, she has tried to push Sasuke completely out of her heart, friendship and everything, and was still trying to do so as she spoke to Naruto. She is trying to bring about resolve and make the person she is in love with happy.

Naruto is all like, "oh no, Sakura is severing that bond, the very thing that Sasuke tried to do with me, this is all going in the wrong direction, why, i thought she cared about him, why would she do this?", then " unless, maybe she does care but is trying to rid herself of more care, love, or whatever she feels for him, then she is lying to herself "

So Naruto did catch her in the middle of her heart vacuuming ( you know, kinda vacuuming out the Sasuke from her heart... yeah ) Naruto and Sakura struggle together, hurt together, and grow together, now she is acting different ( likely because of the "heart vacuuming" ) and Naruto doesn't want her to change, or expect him to change.

Prediction -

Naruto- "Sakura, you need to listen to what your saying, your trying to severe a bond, something we have worked so hard to keep"

Sakura- "This isn't easy for me, he was our friend, but he took the wrong path, this is the only thing we can do now, stop chasing him Naruto, please"

*Naruto gently embraces Sakura*

Naruto- "We both are hurting Sakura, you shouldn't lie to yourself, deep in our hearts, we long to bring our friend home, if we turn our backs on him now, then everything we've been through would have been for nothing"

Sakura- "I...I just...I just don't want you to hurt anymore. I'd do anything to ease your pain. But it is true, I do love you, thats why I'm doing this, because I don't want to see you get hurt anymore, on my behalf, or Sasuke's. Its not fair that you take on all the burden and try to walk this road alone.

Well I'm guessing it may go down kinda like this for the next stage of the talk. `

[narusakuluv]

I think everyone should just chill until the spoiler pics of the whole talk are out. All we have is some crappy translation and the last page. We don't know if Sakura was obviously lying and the reason Naruto could tell she was totally fake was because a blind person could see it; or if she was conflicted and emotional and she was telling the truth, but either it wasn't the whole truth and Naruto called her on it or Naruto was jumping to conclusions and assuming she was lying when she wasn't.
I would say that we should all calm down until the conversation is complete, but that would probably be asking too much.
I kind of like the direction Kishi is taking this, because we all were probably expecting if Sakura ever confessed to Naruto, there would be instant love and kissing and what not, but Kishimoto is unpredictable, and that is why we like him. Remember how for a while people were complaining about how Kishimoto was getting boring and predictable? (or maybe that was just on mangahelpers...) Well, he's proven himself to be just like his titular character again and again especially since he made Konoha go nuclear. So have a little faith. Things may not be smooth sailing for our favorite ship, but if it was wouldn't that be boring? Especially since it's not like the series is going to end within one hundred chapters (or so I believe, but I could be wrong), so if they got together with relatively little drama now, no one would be excited about it anymore.

Spoilers, not for Naruto, but for a manga called Fruits Basket (Furuba) --Click here to view--

To me, this sort of reminds of Tohru's confession to Kyo (Furuba fans? Anyone?). If Sakura really is lying about being in love with Naruto, then it's not that similar, but if she's being at least partially honest, then it is quite comparable. Like Narusaku, Kyoru's relationship began with humble beginnings and developed throughout the series, with Kyo being the first to admit to himself that he was in love with Tohru. But because he considered it impossible for Tohru to love him, when she confessed to him he called her delusional. Kinda similar to how Naruto says Sakura is lying to herself, even though we know that he loves her, which makes it frustrating for us.
I'm hoping that this is the same sort of thing, because even though Kyo broke Tohru's heart and to the fans it seemed like a disaster, it was the reason that they were finally able to become a couple (one of the most epic couples in manga history, in my opinion. Seriously, if you haven't read it, read it.)

[Chew]

Lol Kishi could put Naruto and Sakura behind a bush and start to shake it, and that still wouldn't mean anything. The manga could end with Naruto and Sakura hand in hand with young children, and that still wouldn't mean anything.

Well they'd probably say that the kids are adopted XD or that they'd be born with pink hair but their hair is clearly blonde and therefore is not Sakura's child. ANY pathetic excuse to not accept the truth XD

[True]

Hinata said she loved Naruto and was willing to give up her life for him. How is Sakura who just confessed her love going to prove to Naruto she really loves him and match that?

INB4 TROLL HURF DURF.

Also stop bringing up the NaruHina fandom and their reactions. It's a sad way to cover up your own insecurities about Kishi's horrible writing and trying to find an easy scape goat to make fun off and try to feel better. Next person who brings up anything about NaruHina fans or their fandom will have their posts deleted.

[Strangelove]

I think everyone should just chill until the spoiler pics of the whole talk are out. All we have is some crappy translation and the last page. We don't know if Sakura was obviously lying and the reason Naruto could tell she was totally fake was because a blind person could see it; or if she was conflicted and emotional and she was telling the truth, but either it wasn't the whole truth and Naruto called her on it or Naruto was jumping to conclusions and assuming she was lying when she wasn't.
I would say that we should all calm down until the conversation is complete, but that would probably be asking too much.
I kind of like the direction Kishi is taking this, because we all were probably expecting if Sakura ever confessed to Naruto, there would be instant love and kissing and what not, but Kishimoto is unpredictable, and that is why we like him. Remember how for a while people were complaining about how Kishimoto was getting boring and predictable? (or maybe that was just on mangahelpers...) Well, he's proven himself to be just like his titular character again and again especially since he made Konoha go nuclear. So have a little faith. Things may not be smooth sailing for our favorite ship, but if it was wouldn't that be boring? Especially since it's not like the series is going to end within one hundred chapters (or so I believe, but I could be wrong), so if they got together with relatively little drama now, no one would be excited about it anymore.

Spoilers, not for Naruto, but for a manga called Fruits Basket (Furuba) --Click here to view--

To me, this sort of reminds of Tohru's confession to Kyo (Furuba fans? Anyone?). If Sakura really is lying about being in love with Naruto, then it's not that similar, but if she's being at least partially honest, then it is quite comparable. Like Narusaku, Kyoru's relationship began with humble beginnings and developed throughout the series, with Kyo being the first to admit to himself that he was in love with Tohru. But because he considered it impossible for Tohru to love him, when she confessed to him he called her delusional. Kinda similar to how Naruto says Sakura is lying to herself, even though we know that he loves her, which makes it frustrating for us.
I'm hoping that this is the same sort of thing, because even though Kyo broke Tohru's heart and to the fans it seemed like a disaster, it was the reason that they were finally able to become a couple (one of the most epic couples in manga history, in my opinion. Seriously, if you haven't read it, read it.)

You do got a point there, if NaruSaku happens now, just like that, it would bee wayyyy too easy, and Kishi wants his fans to keep on watching.

[Evil Potato]

Hmmm... much anger I sense.... a disturbance in the force

[Miss Soupy]

INB4 TROLL HURF DURF.

Yeah...since when is being upset with Sakura trolling? It’s time to accept that Sakura messed up. Regardless of what good intentions she had, she did things the wrong way. Saying this is NOT bashing her character or trolling. It is stating fact. Oh, and people expect a lot from Sakura because she is a strong, intelligent female. Plus, Kishi hinted her having strong resolve to do good. Problem is, she didn’t do what she wanted to do, she pretty much did the opposite here. Not going to try to cover up the mess or pat her hand because I like her character or because she is female.

Before I get called a pessimist for having an opinion that isn't fully positive, might I once again add that I think the pairing will come out fine. Not to mention that NS gets relationship development that the other pairings can only DREAM of at this point. Yeah.

[NuclearRaven]

Guys don't worry too much about this. I expected Naruto to react like that. I'd be skeptical too if I was him. He doesn't believe Sakura's words are True because he assumes that she still loves Sasuke. Now I think her words were True and that she has moved on from Sasuke and that she does love Naruto but now she's going to have to prove it to Naruto in some way or another.

[ciardha]

Spoilers, not for Naruto, but for a manga called Fruits Basket (Furuba) --Click here to view--

To me, this sort of reminds of Tohru's confession to Kyo (Furuba fans? Anyone?). If Sakura really is lying about being in love with Naruto, then it's not that similar, but if she's being at least partially honest, then it is quite comparable. Like Narusaku, Kyoru's relationship began with humble beginnings and developed throughout the series, with Kyo being the first to admit to himself that he was in love with Tohru. But because he considered it impossible for Tohru to love him, when she confessed to him he called her delusional. Kinda similar to how Naruto says Sakura is lying to herself, even though we know that he loves her, which makes it frustrating for us.
I'm hoping that this is the same sort of thing, because even though Kyo broke Tohru's heart and to the fans it seemed like a disaster, it was the reason that they were finally able to become a couple (one of the most epic couples in manga history, in my opinion. Seriously, if you haven't read it, read it.)

Actually this is not uncommon in manga. It's more common in shoujo manga than shonen though. It only really happens in manga where a romantic relationship is at the center of the plot. Which tells you Kishimoto was planning the narusaku plotline all along. It's a manga writers delay tactic when the final ship becomes obvious, to keep readers interest at peak, by briefly making the more manga newbie readers think a growing relationship is in jeopardy. There are all kinds of ploys that mangaka use to delay the obvious ship from getting together until they get to a certain point, near the end when it becomes crucial to the plot that the couple is solidly together. Which also tells me the manga isn't as close to ending as I thought it might be recently.

If he was wrapping it up in less than a year Sakura's words would have been a narusaku shippers fantasy and Naruto would have listened to her. This was muddled with Sakura's true romantic feelings for Naruto, pain at causing unknowingly and completely unintentionally great emotional pain for Naruto, anxiety about Naruto's welfare, an intense desire to sooth his pain, her attempts to end her own overwhelming sorrow about the choices Sasuke has made and what her rational mind knows is the choice for dealing with Sasuke that will save others from dying or being hurt in what she has come to realize is a hopeless cause of trying to redeem someone who not only doesn't want to be redeemed but lives only for the pain and destruction he can deliver to those in the way of his obsessional love for vengeance and greater and greater power to deliver his vengeance.

[catsi563]

Why did you so suddenly change your opinion of me

I think this line is being overlooked by everyone.

evryones making such a big deal about what Sakura said and what naruto says after it thta they forgot this very important line.

for Naruto who has not witnessed or been unable to see Sakuras own change of heart it would seem like a very sudden and drastic change of heart and opinion to him. Even with the feeding scene and hug behind him, as far as he can tell she still loves Sasuke even if shes been more open to him.

Sakuras going to have to explain this a lot more to him, shes going to have to show that this isnt jsut a sudden change, its a change thats been coming since the day they became a team.

in fact Im of the sudden opinion that she may jsut bring up the bench scene on her own shocking and shaming naruto into listening.

[Dreamer]

I know this is a little off topic but am I the only who see's Naruto getting the bijuu extracted from him at the next Sas/Naru/Saku confrontation. It will allow Sakura to truly see how monstrous Sasuke is and it will add more drama to the manga with Sakura of course showing her true love for Naruto; Hopefully Naruto will lose some of is ignorance and gain more maturity as well. (In the end what good will it do Naruto to bring back a murder who people intend to forget killed several samurai to Konoha when he'll get life in Priz or the Guillotine to reestablish justice/peace with the Iron Country)[that's how the justice system works, when someone murders they get executed]) Not sure yet if Tsunade would be the one sacrificing herself similar to Chiyo, or the mysterious scroll from Minato would be used if it has the other half of Kyuubi (Yin Chakra) like Catsi's theory, or some other revival jutsu perhaps.

Edited by Uzumakikage, 28 October 2009 - 06:01 AM.

[Insurrection]

If he was wrapping it up in less than a year Sakura's words would have been a narusaku shippers fantasy and Naruto would have listened to her. This was muddled with Sakura's true romantic feelings for Naruto, pain at causing unknowingly and completely unintentionally great emotional pain for Naruto, anxiety about Naruto's welfare, an intense desire to sooth his pain, her attempts to end her own overwhelming sorrow about the choices Sasuke has made and what her rational mind knows is the choice for dealing with Sasuke that will save others from dying or being hurt in what she has come to realize is a hopeless cause of trying to redeem someone who not only doesn't want to be redeemed but lives only for the pain and destruction he can deliver to those in the way of his obsessional love for vengeance and greater and greater power to deliver his vengeance.

*Thinking back to recent chapters including Sakura's 'mistake' comment*.......... In one brief moment you blew my freakin' mind. It's probably just the rhetoric and big words, but that's good. Lovin' the semi-irony of it all.

Without reading the chapter, but just the spoliers you know Kishi's going to stretch this out even without knowing he's got maybe 100+ chapters to go.