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#221 harry4e

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 03:36 PM

Yeah, did you guys ever wondered why Hashirama's power was never passed on within the Senju?

 

Yeah I've been wondering for years why no other Senju inherited the bloodline, (including direct decendants) yet everyone with the DNA injected in them inherited the ability. I also wondered how the Senju survived so many centuries being at war with the Uchiha when they lacked any real abilities, Yeah Hashirama was strong, as well as his brother who had really strong Water Jutsu, but the clan didn't seem to possess anything special, yet we've seen with the Uchiha even a weak sauce like Obito can destroy armies after unlocking the Sharingan. Heck even the expanded Chakra capacity and longer life span was moved on to the Uzumaki clan and died out in the Senju.


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Posted 23 May 2015 - 05:32 PM

WHO? :zaru:

 

A-ha now I remember ! :zaru:


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Posted 23 May 2015 - 05:54 PM

 

Yeah I've been wondering for years why no other Senju inherited the bloodline, (including direct decendants) yet everyone with the DNA injected in them inherited the ability. I also wondered how the Senju survived so many centuries being at war with the Uchiha when they lacked any real abilities, Yeah Hashirama was strong, as well as his brother who had really strong Water Jutsu, but the clan didn't seem to possess anything special, yet we've seen with the Uchiha even a weak sauce like Obito can destroy armies after unlocking the Sharingan. Heck even the expanded Chakra capacity and longer life span was moved on to the Uzumaki clan and died out in the Senju.

 

Yeah, just another giant, gaping plot hole Kishi was too lazy to correct.



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Posted 23 May 2015 - 07:27 PM

Nobody actually agree with me right ? lol ^^'


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Posted 23 May 2015 - 07:38 PM

Nobody actually agree with me right ? lol ^^'

 

Well...

 

I just can't see Sakura in Salad no matter what  :confused:

 

Blame Kishi


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Posted 23 May 2015 - 07:54 PM

Meh, I saw a comparison between Sakura's smile and Sarada's during this chapter and it was very similar. But Sakura did raise her, so I don't see why it'd be that much of a surprise if she actually did inherent traits from her.
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Posted 23 May 2015 - 08:29 PM

Meh, I saw a comparison between Sakura's smile and Sarada's during this chapter and it was very similar. But Sakura did raise her, so I don't see why it'd be that much of a surprise if she actually did inherent traits from her.

That's how I feel. Plus it's not like other characters don't have the same smile. Naruto was more so talking about her personality. I mean, out of story it's nothing like Sakura's, but for now let's pretend like it is, since due time she would inherit some of Sakura's personality. That's only natural. 


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Posted 23 May 2015 - 08:38 PM

That's how I feel. Plus it's not like other characters don't have the same smile. Naruto was more so talking about her personality. I mean, out of story it's nothing like Sakura's, but for now let's pretend like it is, since due time she would inherit some of Sakura's personality. That's only natural.

I agree. Anyways, I can't tell who she really takes after. They keep comparing her to Sasuke, but her looks are the only thing that screams "Sasuke" to me. Her personality compared to Sasuke is way too different, and the only thing Karin like about her is the glasses. That girl is an enigma, lmao.
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Posted 23 May 2015 - 11:50 PM

IMO

In chapter 700, KISHI made her and Boruto intentionally resembling their fathers only in order to create some lame suspense in the last chapter about which the final couples are... I also think he intentionally add the glasses on Sarada to feed the theories about SasuKari. Still lame.
 

To me, it's utterly obvious he did that. Sarada have nothing from Sakura at first glance. The eyes are black like Sasuke's, the hair are black like Sasuke's, the glasses are the same shape as Karin's. The only thing she has from Sakura are her clothes. This is what you get from her at first glance.

IMO all this was to feed the fans theories, and to create some red herring because it's so hype right now apparently... I like red herring, but this is 'playing with readers feelings'. This is not a red herring. But it's possible he's not the one responsible for this. It's possible he's only doing what he was told to do...

I still think he was forced to end NaruSaku, and that he had no more real ideas left about his story, and that he's doing whatever comes into his mind because it's his duty to draw this manga. I think that he lost his devotion to it because of the pressure, and because he was ripped of all of his original ideas and expectations for his story.

So... Sarada... in this chapter, I thought about Sakura while looking at her. Kishi drew Sakura's expression on her face. I get it that some of you guys don't see it, but I maintain it, Kishi gave her Sakura's face expressions. I think Kishi is trying to show to the readers that Sakura is really her mother right now. I don't know what he really is thinking, but to me, it's either he's mocking us, or either he's trying to tell us something. And I don't think Kishimoto is the type to mock his readers. At all. He's not perfect for sure, but I don't think he's that kind of man. I think he's either trying to rehabilitate his manga, or either he's trying to tell us something, or either he's trying hard to make the story they forced him to write to be interesting... something like that.

Sarada is behaving like Sakura here. To me, it's clear that's Kishimoto's intention. He wants us to see Sarada is behaving like Sakura. He even made Naruto say it. So, Sarada is like Sakura. Even if we find it not well done, it's what Kishi intended to do. It's strongly shown when she interacts with Naruto. As if it was natural because it's Naruto. Naruto always brought Sakura to life right ? Don't you see it guys ? That's the more natural thing Kishimoto was able to draw since that gaiden began. Why is that small interaction between Naruto and Sarada feels so natural ? And Naruto, just look at him, smiling brightly while talking to Sarada about Sakura... LOL
To me, Kishi is showing his real colors here. What is natural to write for him is that. And to me it's NaruSaku all over.


And Sasuke raising his sword at his daughter... SasuSaku fans must be really angry right now. All this is because Kishi has no idea at all. It's just phony and lame events. He just can't draw Sasuke behave differently because that's the way Sasuke is. LOL

But what I see here is that Naruto gave to Sarada the feeling of what could be a father for the first time in her life. I think that's the reason she was able to activate her Sharingan. This was the trigger to her thinking about what could be her bond with Sasuke, her father. Naruto was the trigger. Naruto is behaving with her like he did with Sakura. He's comforting her because he knows how she feels. He waited for her because he knew she was following him with Chouchou (chouchou means butterfly in japanese), and he knew why. He's still that utterly intelligent guy when it comes to feelings, and all he's doing right now is an act to comfort Sarada. I get the feeling he lied about his past in that purpose too. To make her smile.

It's like he's making the PoaL again to Sarada. Him telling her to not worry, and that he will help her meet her dad... It's again about 'bringing back Sasuke'. LOL

Don't you see it guys ?
 


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Posted 24 May 2015 - 12:20 AM

I find it funny that Kishi is making Sarada's personality more like Sakura's now.

To be completely honest, when I read that first chapter of Naruto Gaiden, I saw Sasukes completely. Sure, she's more social, but that's to be expected when she has a different background compared to Sasukes.

No, what made me see Sasuke in her was when she talked to Sakura that first chapter. Not only did that little girl have similar expressions Sasuke had, but the way she snapped at Sakura for not knowing anything about her husband screamed Sasuke to me. I also saw her as very calculative as well, questioning everything (along with what's the point of being a ninja) like Sasuke did during the first part of the chuunin exams when he was figuring out the point of the test.

Idk, maybe it's just me, but I saw a little Sasuke in girl form. So when I look at this chapter and see Naruto say she's just like Sakura, I can't help but shake my head.

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Posted 24 May 2015 - 12:27 AM

I find it funny that Kishi is making Sarada's personality more like Sakura's now.

To be completely honest, when I read that first chapter of Naruto Gaiden, I saw Sasukes completely. Sure, she's more social, but that's to be expected when she has a different background compared to Sasukes.

No, what made me see Sasuke in her was when she talked to Sakura that first chapter. Not only did that little girl have similar expressions Sasuke had, but the way she snapped at Sakura for not knowing anything about her husband screamed Sasuke to me. I also saw her as very calculative as well, questioning everything (along with what's the point of being a ninja) like Sasuke did during the first part of the chuunin exams when he was figuring out the point of the test.

Idk, maybe it's just me, but I saw a little Sasuke in girl form. So when I look at this chapter and see Naruto say she's just like Sakura, I can't help but shake my head.

 

Exactly. When she was with Sakura, it was Sasuke all over. The way she snapped was Sasuke all over. And everything you said. It's exactly that.

 

But in that chapter, he gave her Sakura's behaviour in addition. IMO it's all about that 'red herring' thing about 'who is Sarada's mom'... That's why he's giving her Sakura's behaviour only now.


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Posted 24 May 2015 - 12:28 AM

I don't see any part of Sakura's personality in this chapter. Notice how everything is word of mouth rather than visual?


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Posted 24 May 2015 - 12:36 AM

Really James ? Well I don't know what to say anymore ^^'


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Posted 24 May 2015 - 12:50 AM

 
Exactly. When she was with Sakura, it was Sasuke all over. The way she snapped was Sasuke all over. And everything you said. It's exactly that.
 
But in that chapter, he gave her Sakura's behaviour in addition. IMO it's all about that 'red herring' thing about 'who is Sarada's mom'... That's why he's giving her Sakura's behaviour only now.

Yes, I completely agree. It's really upsetting, because kishi thinks he can play us as fools again.

No matter how much he's trying to backtrack and trying to fix it all so later he can say they're a happy family again, but I'm not buying. I don't anything kishi writes seriously because now he's only writing things to create drama it feels like.

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Posted 24 May 2015 - 01:18 AM

Yes, I completely agree. It's really upsetting, because kishi thinks he can play us as fools again.

No matter how much he's trying to backtrack and trying to fix it all so later he can say they're a happy family again, but I'm not buying. I don't anything kishi writes seriously because now he's only writing things to create drama it feels like.

 

I really think what I wrote earlier, in my long post. To me Kishi lost his devotion to his manga and he's now just trying to keep the boat floating. He couldn't end it even if he wanted to, because editors wouldn't allow him to. They want to milk the franchise. I think Kishimoto wanted to end Naruto sooner, and write something else.


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Posted 24 May 2015 - 01:28 AM

I only read the first chapter of naruto gaiden just to see sakura, and I know all the things that happened because of tumblr posts. One thing: why he has to draw upon the pairings (ss-sk) once again to make people read the damn manga? It's just... I don't know, lame? This manga used to be so much better than pairing drama :ermm:


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Posted 24 May 2015 - 01:38 AM

I don't see any part of Sakura's personality in this chapter. Notice how everything is word of mouth rather than visual?

Precisely.


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Posted 24 May 2015 - 01:40 AM

Really James ? Well I don't know what to say anymore ^^'

Really. For a visual novel, we have to be told that things happen. We can't be shown how peace was achieved, we are just told. We can't be shown NH is happy, we have to be told through characters. We can't be shown that Salad is Sakura's kid, Naruto has to say it.


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Posted 24 May 2015 - 02:53 AM

Yes, I completely agree. It's really upsetting, because kishi thinks he can play us as fools again.

No matter how much he's trying to backtrack and trying to fix it all so later he can say they're a happy family again, but I'm not buying. I don't anything kishi writes seriously because now he's only writing things to create drama it feels like.

 

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Posted 24 May 2015 - 02:56 AM

Really. For a visual novel, we have to be told that things happens. We can;t be seen how peace was achieved, we are just told. We can't be shown NH is happy, we have to be told through characters. We can't be shown that Salad is Sakura's kid, Naruto has to say it.

 

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