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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:19 PM

And think about how old minato was when he died: 24. Who knows how much stronger he would have gotten if he hadn't died back then.

 

And how many things might have changed overall. I wonder how Minato would have dealt with the Uchiha situation, for example.


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:19 PM

Pathetic manga:

 

Even the random guy had a better resolution.


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:19 PM

And think about how old minato was when he died: 24. Who knows how much stronger he would have gotten if he hadn't died back then.

Much stronger.

 

Pathetic manga:

 

Even the random guy had a better resolution.

Random?


Edited by NarutoUzumaki01, 05 February 2015 - 10:19 PM.


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:22 PM

 

And how many things might have changed overall. I wonder how Minato would have dealt with the Uchiha situation, for example.

For one I don't think he would have let an kitten like Danzo mess things up. The Third Hokage was always too easy on Danzo, but Minato wouldn't stand for it.

 

Beyond that it's pure speculation but I think he could have worked something out to resolve the Uchiha problems a lot better than Sarutobi did.


 


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:23 PM

Kakashi? Do you think Obito cared for him after what he did?

Minato? Coudn't do anything because of elders and Danzo, that's for sure. Kakashi coudn't do anything? Nice, good promise that you coudn't keep.World caused his trauma, so he returned it even greater. Same with Nagato, a little less with Madara.

Ritual - place where he placed Kushina.

Loneliness, well, that is where we disagree, Naruto was cared by 3rd, Sasuke became lonely and only suffered more, that part of his revenge was good.

 

I wonder where both of them could die, lol.

But that would be ok for him? Don't thinks so, he would've bothering himself why he coudn't help them at their death-moment.

Sorry but that's all on Obito's mentality  not Kakashi's fault  Kakashi still cared about him and his promise he felt like kitten after it . The point is Obito had people who loved him still you even see this in his flashback of what could have been if he returned  he made a poor choice bc he chose to blame everyone for kitten and giggles .

 

It was inside Kushina   he unsealed the Fox via Genjutsu .

 

Cared by the 3rd !? So was Sasuke if that the case  but the 3rd was kitten of caretaker he only give Naruto some money and left him on his own such care lol . Sasuke choose to be lonely  Naruto didn't  Sasuke had all the care and respect in the village still what did Naruto had !? People no matter who still cared about Sasuke praised  him he had all the attention in the world  , Naruto on the other hand got kitten  still loneliness and hatred from everybody  like he doesn't even exist  .  


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:23 PM

 

Much stronger.

 

Random?

 

Remember the guy  who got rejected for Sakura?


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:27 PM

Remember the guy  who got rejected for Sakura?

We got to see some random guy be rejected, but not Naruto's confession and rejection that was implied in the movie? Such bad writing.


 


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:33 PM

Minato's the strongest in my eyes because he worked for everything he got. He isn't some reincarnation of the sage's son and gets random asspull powers. He came from a commoner clan and had to work to become strong. I think that makes you infinitely stronger than just being handed power like the Senju, Uchiha, and Hyuuga clans.

That reminds me of Sakura...she really deserves the Jounin title... but people will still say that she's useless ... 

 

remember the time the three legendary sannins were supposed to be three of the most powerful and strongest ninjas in the world ?


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:34 PM

For one I don't think he would have let an a**hole like Danzo mess things up. The Third Hokage was always too easy on Danzo, but Minato wouldn't stand for it.

 

Beyond that it's pure speculation but I think he could have worked something out to resolve the Uchiha problems a lot better than Sarutobi did.

 

Yeah, I think so too. I can picture Minato having a meeting with the Uchiha leaders and doing his best to work things out (probably in their own premises rather than inviting them to his office).


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:35 PM

We got to see some random guy be rejected, but not Naruto's confession and rejection that was implied in the movie? Such bad writing.

That is why I said  that guy got better resolution than Naruto, such pathetic writing


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:37 PM

I used to cringe at how the villains in Fairy Tail were redeemed, but at least some of them had to face serious consequences despite being redeemed. I don't wanna spoil anything, but I think that FT readers know who I'm talking about. 


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:37 PM

Sorry but that's all on Obito's mentality  not Kakashi's fault  Kakashi still cared about him and his promise he felt like kitten after it . The point is Obito had people who loved him still you even see this in his flashback of what could have been if he returned  he made a poor choice bc he chose to blame everyone for kitten and giggles .
 
It was inside Kushina   he unsealed the Fox via Genjutsu .
 
Cared by the 3rd !? So was Sasuke if that the case  but the 3rd was kitten of caretaker he only give Naruto some money and left him on his own such care lol . Sasuke choose to be lonely  Naruto didn't  Sasuke had all the care and respect in the village still what did Naruto had !? People no matter who still cared about Sasuke praised  him he had all the attention in the world  , Naruto on the other hand got kitten  still loneliness and hatred from everybody  like he doesn't even exist  .

Kakashi had to feel like kitten, because he didn't saved Rin, at any cost. Obito woudn't be even alive, because of Hashirama's DNA he would be prisoned or even killed. So Obito saw his friend killing his beloved one, and he anihilating all people around and what? Hi, my name is Obito Uchiha, I killed 20 jounins of Kumo, but I'm still genin? 
About Sasuke, who gives a kitten? It's exactly the point that Sasuke stated, half of people saw him as cool silent guy, not even one tried to talk to him. Naruto at least tryed to communicate.
 
That's intresting discussion here.
 

I used to cringe at how the villains in Fairy Tail were redeemed, but at least some of them had to face serious consequences despite being redeemed. I don't wanna spoil anything, but I think that FT readers know who I'm talking about.

Meh... FT has no good villian expect that old man.

That reminds me of Sakura...she really deserves the Jounin title... but people will still say that she's useless ... 
 
remember the time the three legendary sannins were supposed to be three of the most powerful and strongest ninjas in the world ?

Never it was stated, they got those names because reason of Hanzo.

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:42 PM

Remember when Naruto was in love with Sakura because it was really love and not because he loved her like the ramen? Yeah, it was a great manga at that time.


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:45 PM

Remember when Naruto was in love with Sakura because it was really love and not because he loved her like the ramen? Yeah, it was a great manga at that time.

He did for the entire manga, it's just the Last that comes up with that BS.


 


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:46 PM

Meh... FT has no good villian expect that old man.Never it was stated, they got those names because reason of Hanzo.

The old man?

 

Overall when it comes to villains, I'd say it's a tie. What I do know is that Nagato/Pain was the last truly good Naruto villain. Madara had potential what with being a megalomian and all, but in the end he was completely sidelined in favour of Kaguya aka Idontknowhowtoprogressthestorysoiwilljustdothisokay. Same with Obito. He too was a cool Darth Vader like character, but his storyline just became way too convoluted. 


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:57 PM

The old man?
 
Overall when it comes to villains, I'd say it's a tie. What I do know is that Nagato/Pain was the last truly good Naruto villain. Madara had potential what with being a megalomian and all, but in the end he was completely sidelined in favour of Kaguya aka Idontknowhowtoprogressthestorysoiwilljustdothisokay. Same with Obito. He too was a cool Darth Vader like character, but his storyline just became way too convoluted.

Hades.

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 11:00 PM

Hades.

Oh yeah. He was cool and a very interesting storyline. 


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 11:05 PM

Oh yeah. He was cool and a very interesting storyline. 

All others are... boring. Mar was cool, but totally useless against power of friendship.



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Posted 05 February 2015 - 11:10 PM

Kakashi had to feel like kitten, because he didn't saved Rin, at any cost. Obito woudn't be even alive, because of Hashirama's DNA he would be prisoned or even killed. So Obito saw his friend killing his beloved one, and he anihilating all people around and what? Hi, my name is Obito Uchiha, I killed 20 jounins of Kumo, but I'm still genin? 
About Sasuke, who gives a kitten? It's exactly the point that Sasuke stated, half of people saw him as cool silent guy, not even one tried to talk to him. Naruto at least tryed to communicate.
 
That's intresting discussion here.
 

Meh... FT has no good villian expect that old man.Never it was stated, they got those names because reason of Hanzo.

Bro the point is Obito knew that it wasn't really Kakshi's fault  but that Rin made her choice on her own , he should at least understand that Kakashi felt like kitten and not turn into  kitten  friend trowing his tantrum on everyone . I don't see why Obito killing those 20 Jonins from the Mist should pose a problem for him to go back to the Leaf , interrogated yes but killed by his own people !? Why !? Makes no sens .

 

 

That's true about Sasuke but still having all the attention is better then having zero which is why Naruto do all that kitten just so he can feel a tiny shred of attention and love  that's more sad to me then anything  else . 


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 11:19 PM

After Pain, villains are hit and miss, mostly miss. And Orochimaru got mocked on...





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