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[harry4e]

My mind might change in a couple of hours but right now just after reading the Manga I can't even express the level of my dissapointment, Did Kishi seriously piss over all the work he's put on the manga and the rules he set up? Kakashi couldn't handle one eye for more than a few minutes and now he has both and he's got a complete Susanoo? Something than required the Eternal MS to complete? not th freaking MS but the Eternal one, Obito couldn't even create on before this but Kakashi just went from never freaking doing it to a complete version straight away...that is complete and utter BS....this makes Sasuke's freebie power-ups pale in comparison..Not even Itachi who i'm going to say is without a doubt the most talented Sharingan user in the manga, far better than Sasuke and Obito, and not even he could do a complete Sharingan infact the eyes literally killed him.

 

The way he even got the eyes is BS...atleast we could argue with Naruto and Sasuke, that Naruto was gifted with all the nine tailed beasts chakra and was the reincarnation of the Asura, and Sasuke was the reincarnation on Indra and was getting pumped with Senju Chakra to heal him, so both the Ying and Yang Chakra of the Sage. Kakashi has none......honestly this is an arsepull too far for Kishi and just pisses me off even more....I seriously hope Kishi ends this manga soon before he destroys the manga he created with anymore arsepulls. From the rules Kishi created he Kakashi should pretty much die after using this technique.

 

kitten I just realised, because he got a dead mans virtual eyes, Kakashi just got Eternal MS.

 

Another thing that pissed me off was when Rin asked Obito, who he was going to save now...he's responsible for thousands of death, don't BS us by aking him out to be the good guy all along...he is nothing like Negato...Obito's soul should be damned in hell.

[Hanabi]

this treatment of sakura just suck so much 

Edited by Hanabi, 06 August 2014 - 02:58 PM.

[Sakura~]

this treatment of sakura just suck so much 

I agree :(

[Awes9]

Kakashi should be dead right now because of chakra exhaustion, the man who already had a hard time with one sharingan is using two at the same time and is going to spam the most chakra consuming uchiha technique. I know chakra and its limitations have been forgotten since a long time but that's stretching things a bit. On top of that Kakashi in a moment has just mastered what it took years for Madara with a uchiha body and a superior set of eyes to master, even Sasuke had a hard time to control the first stages of Susano, was suffering because of its use and only began to master PS after he got EMS. It's inconsistent with what we have been shown so far.

Ns.Believe.It : that's untrue, a lot of people enjoyed the action in Naruto because it had established rules and its own tactics and the battles played out in accordance to these limitations but little by little and asspulls by asspulls these rules have been broken and what was written before has been ignored until we get to this point. It's laziness and the easy way out but even tough it's the norm nowadays it hasn't always been like that.

I won't even begin to talk with the very dubious pseudo philisopical message which is more dusturbing than anything else at this point.

[Serenity Namikaze]

After reading this, I really REALLY hope that kishi won't give asspull power up to Sakura. Seriously even Kakashi!? * facepalm*

 

I wasn't pissed to see Sakura being saved, she can't do much with all the asspull god-like power in the battlefield and seriously I don't want to see her with asspull god-like power, let her remain the only 'normal' one of the team 7...if you can call that a team now or ever to begin with.

 

And WTH!? Kakashi as Hokage!? I would prefer seeing him dieing protecting his precious people then THIS! I think Kakashi dieing protecting his students would be a much better fitting ending for Kakashi. I know that Naruto has some growing up to do before being Hokage but Tsunade is still Hokage and I hope that she'll stay there for a while ( better this then seeing Kakashi as Hokage IMO).

 

Naruto was badass IMO and I love to see the bijuu working together with Naruto, better seeing this then Naru/Sasu combo attack but that's muy opinion.

 

Beside that, even if I don't approuve seeing Kakashi with the susanoo, I must admit that I laugh really hard seeing Kakashi save Sakura and showing us Sasuke as useless once again lol

[Advaith]

I'm not gonna question this manga's logic since there has been none for a long time,same goes to it's ridiculous story,reasons and absolutely everything and i don't care about it anymore.The only thing i care now is NS mainly then naruto becoming hokage and perhaps the ending.

 

I have to admit i've never seen this level of asspulls.What has this manga become....sigh

 

Now on to NS,i am not sure whether to take this as a moment or not coz kishi has shown it in such an order.If only that naruto catching sasuke panel was not there right before sakura cheering then i would have said this as a moment.Kishi intentionally did that,he sure knows how to play with pairing fandoms.Sakura has to be saved again...doesn't matter she has done more than anyone else besides at a battle against this power level and i'm sure she'll get her moments again.

 

That Obirin was nice and cute it really parallels NS very much.I'm glad wer'e getting that now,it makes NS more powerful.One thing is kishi should stop teasing us NS fans and already make it canon,u know in that way and give us a proper moment.It's obvious that NS will happen,It's the truth,the end game but why still teasing us.It's quite infuriating atleast for once give us a proper moment,other than parallelling for once at least(i prefer parallelling coz it's the truth but i really want a proper moment to get a new good relaxing feel or atleast to make those NH and SS retards shut their trap for once ) .It's already very near the end.

 

Honestly black zetsu's reaction after all this "What is going on" was my exact same reaction i had while reading.Now kakashi as hokage...perfect he was the only one who didn't announce that yet and he doesn't even want to and he ain't any hero....well he could become one right now going by kishi's logic.lol.I loved sasuke being useless and thrown around and his reaction when kakashi came with PS.Although that was my similar reaction as well.lol

 

 

 

                                        Well i have given obito title "the immortal".Sheesh Nobody can match this guy.

 

                                                                                Anyway NS FTW.

Edited by Advaith, 06 August 2014 - 03:40 PM.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

I won't even begin to talk with the very dubious pseudo philisopical message which is more dusturbing than anything else at this point.

Beyond anything else thats my major issue with the manga at this point. The vast majority of Naruto's problem is that its message is "EVERYONE CAN BE SAVED/REDEEMED." And it spawns a kitten ton of WTF in the process in trying to show us that- but by doing so it cheapens everything. 

 

 

After reading this, I really REALLY hope that kishi won't give asspull power up to Sakura. Seriously even Kakashi!? * facepalm*

 

I think its safe to say that out of all the people on team 7 Sakura is never going to get an Asspull power up even though she's by far the most deserving and in sore need of one. 

I sure as hell wouldn't complain if it happened, why the hell not when the story has already descended as low as it has? Can't hurt anything more. 

Edited by Tsuki Hoshino, 06 August 2014 - 03:15 PM.

[James S Cassidy]

After reading this, I really REALLY hope that kishi won't give asspull power up to Sakura. Seriously even Kakashi!? * facepalm*

 

I wasn't pissed to see Sakura being saved, she can't do much with all the asspull god-like power in the battlefield and seriously I don't want to see her with asspull god-like power, let her remain the only 'normal' one of the team 7...if you can call that a team now or ever to begin with.

 

And WTH!? Kakashi as Hokage!? I would prefer seeing him dieing protecting his precious people then THIS! I think Kakashi dieing protecting his students would be a much better fitting ending for Kakashi. I know that Naruto has some growing up to do before being Hokage but Tsunade is still Hokage and I hope that she'll stay there for a while ( better this then seeing Kakashi as Hokage IMO).

 

Naruto was badass IMO and I love to see the bijuu working together with Naruto, better seeing this then Naru/Sasu combo attack but that's muy opinion.

 

Beside that, even if I don't approuve seeing Kakashi with the susanoo, I must admit that I laugh really hard seeing Kakashi save Sakura and showing us Sasuke as useless once again lol

Actually, I am going to admit it. This is one time I can say people truly have a right to be mad and I agree that I rather have Sakura do nothing than asspull her this way. Sakura is the only main character now to not asspull her way into relevance which I think is amazing. Even though she doesn't do much in this battle, she is still relevant to the story and she is that without having to asspull her into it.

Here is an even worse part.....doesn't it kind of put into perspective that some asspulls are now actually forgivable? I am now saying to myself: "Hell, even madara's asspulls weren't this bad and had some basis to it." This is basically just doing whatever the the hell of it,

 

[六道仙人]

Now I see... Kakashi's face will be reveleated on Hokages rock

[Serenity Namikaze]

Beyond anything else thats my major issue with the manga at this point. The vast majority of Naruto's problem is that its message is "EVERYONE CAN BE SAVED/REDEEMED." And it spawns a kitten ton of WTF in the process in trying to show us that- but by doing so it cheapens everything. 

 

 

I think its safe to say that out of all the people on team 7 Sakura is never going to get an Asspull power up even though she's by far the most deserving and in sore need of one. 

I sure as hell wouldn't complain if it happened, why the hell not when the story has already descended as low as it has? Can't hurt anything more. 

 

Don't say never, at this point I wouldn't be surprised if Kishi asspull Sakura too but I agree there are less chances for that to happen.

 

But seriously, I wouldn't like it because Sakura was design as a normal girl, with no 'special' background like Naruto, Sasuke or any other characters in general so for her to have a big ass pull god-like power up would screw up big time why she's unique IMO. I do feel like she could have another power up but I don't expect something as BS as what Kishi just did with Kakashi.

[ns.Believe.It]

Kakashi should be dead right now because of chakra exhaustion, the man who already had a hard time with one sharingan is using two at the same time and is going to spam the most chakra consuming uchiha technique. I know chakra and its limitations have been forgotten since a long time but that's stretching things a bit. On top of that Kakashi in a moment has just mastered what it took years for Madara with a uchiha body and a superior set of eyes to master, even Sasuke had a hard time to control the first stages of Susano, was suffering because of its use and only began to master PS after he got EMS. It's inconsistent with what we have been shown so far.

Ns.Believe.It : that's untrue, a lot of people enjoyed the action in Naruto because it had established rules and its own tactics and the battles played out in accordance to these limitations but little by little and asspulls by asspulls these rules have been broken and what was written before has been ignored until we get to this point. It's laziness and the easy way out but even tough it's the norm nowadays it hasn't always been like that.

I won't even begin to talk with the very dubious pseudo philisopical message which is more dusturbing than anything else at this point.

Not really. Its been this way since the very beginning. But the magnitude was not as high because they were just inexperienced and weaker rookies then. And time between consecutive scenes like today's was greater and there was story between. As we are now reading the war arc, it gets highlighted more. I remember Naruto as an academy student couldn't create a simple clone to graduate. But when he sees Iruka  in danger from Mizuki later, he suddenly manages to create hundreds of solid shadow clones which he supposedly learnt from reading some scroll. Kishi has always given sudden power-ups to every character in desperate situations.

[Phantom_999]

My only problem is that now all Susanoo look generic. -__-

[luffyq1]

I'm just glad the sketch didn't turn out to be Sakura :)

[Tsuki Hoshino]

 

Don't say never, at this point I wouldn't be surprised if Kishi asspull Sakura too but I agree there are less chances for that to happen.

 

But seriously, I wouldn't like it because Sakura was design as a normal girl, with no 'special' background like Naruto, Sasuke or any other characters in general so for her to have a big ass pull god-like power up would screw up big time why she's unique IMO. I do feel like she could have another power up but I don't expect something as BS as what Kishi just did with Kakashi.

 

She doesn't need a special background to get an asspull, all that's needed is Kishimoto's desire to give her one. 

Like lets say Kaguya upon her defeat sees the error of her ways and decides to pass on some of her power to Sakura; Bam, asspull power-up, not special past for Sakura needed. 

The point is, Kishimoto's sidelined Sakura for the vast majority of the manga--the best way to predict future behavior is to look at past behavior. I have absolutely no hope for things getting any better for her. 

 

[Advaith]

Now I see... Kakashi's face will be revealed on Hokages rock

Most likely.

[James S Cassidy]

Here is an even sadder reality:

People say Sakura is always being put into the damsel in distress role. While I cannot disprove that, at least there is reason where she is not as godly powerful as Naruto and Sasuke.

HOWEVER....

Sasuke is supposed to be godly powerful and yet he has become just as much of a damsel in distress. What's worse is there is no excuse why he fails so hard. While I am happy knowing this fact that he fails this hard, but that is a huge difference I see. Sakura is a damsel in distress, but you can excuse it for lack of power-ups and neglect. Sasuke got all the attention AND power-ups and he is STILL has to be saved by everyone.

 

Edited by James S Cassidy, 06 August 2014 - 03:55 PM.

[Nate River]

She doesn't need a special background to get an asspull, all that's needed is Kishimoto's desire to give her one. 

Like lets say Kaguya upon her defeat sees the error of her ways and decides to pass on some of her power to Sakura; Bam, asspull power-up, not special past for Sakura needed. 

The point is, Kishimoto's sidelined Sakura for the vast majority of the manga--the best way to predict future behavior is to look at past behavior. I have absolutely no hope for things getting any better for her.

I don't want Kishimoto to use an additional asspull, just so he's an equal opportunity offender. Asspull has that name for a reason and adding more of them in the name of equality doesn't suddenly mean they are appropriate. An asspull is an asspull. It's just trading one problem for another.

Personally, I think people are reading too much into her not having one. I think it demonstrates more how he sees her role within the team and story or maybe just plain old neglect.

I don't want additional asspulls, but that she hasn't had one...I don't see how it's a sign that she is special in the eyes of the author. I think if anything its the reverse.

[Gojira]

Well look on the bright side! Since this manga has gone rock bottom, it can only go up from here. It's impossible to have another chapter which will top the disappointment of this chapter.

I thought so too....and then the news of Sakura not being the mystery hit me and made me even more depressed now I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Kishi does make SS and Nh canon just to prove to us all that he doesn't give a kitten

[James S Cassidy]

Entire NS websites fans reaction to this chapter

Edited by James S Cassidy, 06 August 2014 - 04:09 PM.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

I don't want Kishimoto to use an additional asspull, just so he's an equal opportunity offender. Asspull has that name for a reason and adding more of them in the name of equality doesn't suddenly mean they are appropriate. An asspull is an asspull. It's just trading one problem for another.

Personally, I think people are reading too much into her not having one. I think it demonstrates more how he sees her role within the team and story or maybe just plain old neglect.

I don't want additional asspulls, but that she hasn't had one...I don't see how it's a sign that she is special in the eyes of the author. I think if anything its the reverse.

I'm not saying that I want one, because I don't. What I am saying is that out of all the people who need one, Sakura is at the top of the list and the rest of Team 7 at the bottom. I'm also saying that her being "normal" is not relevant to whether or not Kishimoto could Asspull a power up for her. It means absolutely nothing. 

If he willed it, Iruka could suddenly become god. Thats the whole point of an asspull, it makes no sense, it comes from absolutely nowhere and has no build up.

Frankly i've never really cared if Sakura was on par with Naruto and Sasuke, I've cared whether or not she's gotten the same amount of attention that they have and she hasn't. Her strength isn't important, its her relevance.