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#221 Broken Figurine

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 04:51 PM

I've noticed a lot of people are really angry about Sasuke's sudden appearance and seeing it as Sasuke getting equal importance as Naruto despite all of the crap he's done and how everything comes easy to him. That Naruto and Sasuke are the Children of Prophecy and now suddenly Naruto's basically not as special. Let me tell you why I'm extremely apathetic of that.

 

Sasuke is not the other Child of Prophecy. Naruto is still the main one as far as we know. So Sasuke was talked to by the Sage as well and he said it's up to both of them. So? Think of it this way.

 

Yes, Sasuke was given more importance and every Sasuke hater has the right to be pissed off about it but it still goes back to Naruto. Sasuke can't change the cycle and the legacy of Indra's reincarnations by himself. He's not going to make a choice without any other influence to end Indra's "peace through power" complex. Naruto needs to be the one to change him in the final fight. He's still the key. Without him, Sasuke would still go down the wrong path. That's why it's not Naruto and Sasuke equally. Sasuke needs to be guided so it's really still about Naruto.

 

I believe the Sage's faith in them is mostly along the lines of "I believe Ashura's reincarnation will at last change Indra's so I put my faith in Indra's to see his 'brother's' way of doing things." Very much like Sakura's "I'll just believe in them" line. It's not like either of them believe Sasuke will see the light on his own, but it gives him some credit to finally listen to Naruto and change. His choice will change the cycle but it only happens because of Naruto. So it's still about Naruto.

 

I wasn't angry at all that Sasuke got that speech. In a way, it makes sense. Why would Hagoromo just single out Naruto and once again show favoritism to him instead of his other son? There's no way that's going to help things, even if you hate Sasuke with a passion it only makes sense.

 

And honestly, all this rage on Sasuke getting everything the easy way is done on purpose for a reason. You can hate it, but it has a point. Naruto getting everything through hard work despite all the odds stacked against him and still choosing the right path puts him in a better light than Sasuke. His story is a direct contrast to Sasuke's and I'm not irritated by it too much because I understand where Kishi's coming from. I love Naruto ten times more than Sasuke, but I'm not going to dwell on those things when I see the message behind it.

 

The only thing I'm really irritated about is how much obsessive focus Kishi puts on Naruto's bond with Sasuke. It's not that I have anything against the bond. It's just SasuNaru is so ridiculously tied into the plot, it eclipses or shafts every other bond Naruto has. It shouldn't just be about Sasuke. Kishi has written Naruto's character focus so much on Sasuke, you'd think nothing else mattered to him but his 'brother' when we know that's not true. Naruto's other relationships and the meaning he puts into those is terribly inconsistent because SasuNaru overruns this story since Part II.

 

It really wouldn't kill Kishi to have Naruto single out his other friendships instead of having them grouped together in group shots while Sasuke is always, always singled out like he's so much more special to Naruto than them. This is a issue with NS too IMO. We know Naruto loves Sakura, but she's rarely singled out. It's always Sasuke at the front of his thoughts and Sasuke given those meaningful scenes when you just know how much he means to him. :glare:

I don't know if this was talked about already (I realize there are a few pages to go by the time this will be posted) but there is one silver lining! The reason why Naruto even bothers saving the world is because of his friends--that was his reason. We can question why Naruto believes that Sasuke is part of this, let alone a great friend at all, but maybe he's just irrational in the face of cosmic sibling forces and he was destined to love Sasuke...in a brotherly sort of way. Admittedly, I love my bro to bits and pieces but I'd still get very, very, very angry and hold him accountable to his actions. 

 

Is Sasuke held to a greater pedestal? Oh yeah, and I think other people have summed up why this is a bummer and just... ugh, but at least at the heart of Naruto's character it's his connections that define him, and they go beyond Sasuke. Naruto has an army of friends, literally.

 

Also, @redragon88 the same can be said conversely, how can you like (as I take from your signature) SasuKarin and yet criticize NaruSasu's bond? I mean it's kind of a matter of personal preference, interpretation and bias there. 

 

You really can't take the two as equivalent. In the case of the originally posed question and feeling like a hypocrite, yeah, it happens that you can acknowledge the issues in a relationship and still like it anyways. What I may understand in NaruSasu's bond, I may not understand in SasuKarin's. What works for a person in one, may not in another. I mean, how do you feel when someone says, "How can you ship SasuKarin and have a problem with SasuSaku?" To you, they are not the same, even if I would argue they're faaaaar more similar than NaruSasu --> SasuKarin 

 

and I know--I do question that a lot, except I'm with Nate where Karin's handling has just been.... ridiculous. In a really sad way; sometimes, I can't bring myself to hate her because it is such an injustice how her character was treated with that one comment. I can't say the same about Naruto and Sasuke's relationship---not to that extent, no.


Edited by Broken Figurine, 05 April 2014 - 05:17 PM.


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Posted 05 April 2014 - 05:15 PM

Anyone else think its hilarious the amount of power-ups Kishi gave Gai over the years?

 

In the beginning when we first saw him in the Chunnin Exam arc we get the impression that he's average level jonin, later during the sand/sound invasion we see him take out multiple other skilled ninjas with Kakashi, after that we see him hold his own against 30% Kisame clone, after that we see him defeat someone as powerful as Kisame by himself, and now he's trading blows with Rikudou Madara with Rinnegan and Sage powers.


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Posted 05 April 2014 - 05:20 PM

Karin chose to keep following Sasuke despite sensing his increasing darkness, should we not feel sorry since that was her choice?


I don't feel sorry for her. If I do on any level, it's because Kishimoto has mutilated her character.
 
There are many cases where the abused constantly return to those that abuse them. The reasons why vary, but it's a rather tragic cycle. I could sympathize with her plight if this was what she was meant to illustrate, but it's not.

Kishimoto insults her character and his audience with what he has done with her. Honestly, he trashes Sasuke with this as well. The descent in darkness was supposed to be a big deal. Making light of the whole thing tends to undermine it. He either should have been prepared to deal with all that come with it or not done it all.

But that's why we started the conversation in the first place. Ramenanmitsu felt like a hypocrite for giving Naruto a free pass in his bond with Sasuke. I have seen posts in the past in other places that put Naruto up while bringing Karin down, I guess we just haven't seen the same posts.


If they do, call them out. What irritated me about your posts is you threw out a blanket insult without citing anyone who did it.
 

Well, the only one laughing about Karin being stabbed is Suigetsu, and you know... he's kind of a kitten.


He is and the author could have done it in a way that was meant to show what an ass Suigetsu was, but that really wasn't the intent. The whole thing was a joke the audience was meant to laugh at.
 

And no, I have no issue with Naruto's pursuit of Sasuke. In real life it sounds stupid, but you see... fiction and stuff.


I don't think it sounds stupid. What's bad for me, is the approach. I think you can look at his past and see why he'd be so adamant about refusing to let bonds go. He spent 12 years have almost none (and it was zero for his peer group) What bothers me more is that it's always treated as an inherent good and the right thing to do when that's not always the case, especially given the track record of some of these people. Sasuke is shielded like crazy, but this is where Naruto gets shielded as well: His belief system comes with risk. I remember Final Fantasy Tactics. One of the first things you do is save Algus. It turns out the guy is a selfish prick and it burns the hero and his friend badly. Algus even makes this very point to Ramza. But that never happens to Naruto. These decisions don't blow up in his face. He never has to answer to the victims of those he spares (or Sasuke).

I guess this is where the whole relationship gets protected: Despite Naruto passing on engaging Sasuke after the Danzou fight, Sasuke is always shifted and redirected before he can do real damage. Thus, Naruto doesn't have to answer for failing to act. He didn't think he could win, but based on what?
 

Your request is reasonable, but it's a hassle. I'll have to accept that you'll remain with reasonable doubt. That's better than going through the headache of looking for posts that I dislike.


I don't like it when people hurl out insults, but then hide behind "some people" curtains. It's a cheap way to hedge your bets if you get called it because you can always say, well, I didn't mean you, I meant someone else.

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 06:12 PM

I don't feel sorry for her. If I do on any level, it's because Kishimoto has mutilated her character.
 
There are many cases where the abused constantly return to those that abuse them. The reasons why vary, but it's a rather tragic cycle. I could sympathize with her plight if this was what she was meant to illustrate, but it's not.

Kishimoto insults her character and his audience with what he has done with her. Honestly, he trashes Sasuke with this as well. The descent in darkness was supposed to be a big deal. Making light of the whole thing tends to undermine it. He either should have been prepared to deal with all that come with it or not done it all.

 

I get why you would want it like that, but it just wasn't the type of direction that Kishimoto wanted. I just tend to accept the stories as they are so I have less complains. Within the realm of fiction I just go with the morality an author gives in the story since it makes me enjoy it more.

 

Not to say that you're wrong to have critiques, not at all. Just explaining why I have such a different view.

 

He is and the author could have done it in a way that was meant to show what an ass Suigetsu was, but that really wasn't the intent. The whole thing was a joke the audience was meant to laugh at.

 

It was a joke, but not at the fact that Karin was stabbed. The joke is how Suigetsu is an insensitive ass about it. The audience is not meant to go "Haha Karin go stabbed", is supposed to be "Did Suigetsu really just say that? Dear God what a prick lol". At least that's how I saw it.

 

 

I don't think it sounds stupid. What's bad for me, is the approach. I think you can look at his past and see why he'd be so adamant about refusing to let bonds go. He spent 12 years have almost none (and it was zero for his peer group) What bothers me more is that it's always treated as an inherent good and the right thing to do when that's not always the case, especially given the track record of some of these people. Sasuke is shielded like crazy, but this is where Naruto gets shielded as well: His belief system comes with risk. I remember Final Fantasy Tactics. One of the first things you do is save Algus. It turns out the guy is a selfish prick and it burns the hero and his friend badly. Algus even makes this very point to Ramza. But that never happens to Naruto. These decisions don't blow up in his face. He never has to answer to the victims of those he spares (or Sasuke).

I guess this is where the whole relationship gets protected: Despite Naruto passing on engaging Sasuke after the Danzou fight, Sasuke is always shifted and redirected before he can do real damage. Thus, Naruto doesn't have to answer for failing to act. He didn't think he could win, but based on what?

 

I won't blame you for your point of view. It's just that, as I said above, Kishi has a different approach about the whole situation. I get why his choices can be frustrating for someone like you, but I suppose that's just something all fans have to deal with.

 

As I said, I just tend to go with how the author rolls. That's just my thing.

 

 

If they do, call them out. What irritated me about your posts is you threw out a blanket insult without citing anyone who did it.

 

I don't like it when people hurl out insults, but then hide behind "some people" curtains. It's a cheap way to hedge your bets if you get called it because you can always say, well, I didn't mean you, I meant someone else.

 

Dude, I can't call anyone out if I don't remember names and I have no desire to look posts that I read months and years ago. I have no desire to spend my time in such an annoying task just because you don't like how I do things.

 

I have no obligation towards you and I already told you that if you want to remain doubtful about me you can be my guess.



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Posted 05 April 2014 - 06:26 PM

 

I get why you would want it like that, but it just wasn't the type of direction that Kishimoto wanted. I just tend to accept the stories as they are so I have less complains. Within the realm of fiction I just go with the morality an author gives in the story since it makes me enjoy it more.

 

Not to say that you're wrong to have critiques, not at all. Just explaining why I have such a different view.

 

 

It was a joke, but not at the fact that Karin was stabbed. The joke is how Suigetsu is an insensitive ass about it. The audience is not meant to go "Haha Karin go stabbed", is supposed to be "Did Suigetsu really just say that? Dear God what a prick lol". At least that's how I saw it.

That's a key point.
The problem is that Kishimoto never showed how Karin chose to go after Sasuke, Kishi always make jokes when he draws himself into a corner, the part where Karin comes back it's a comical moment since the begining and even later when she says that she doesnt love Sasuke because he tried to kill her and it was comical once again.
There's no explanation on Karin's behavior it's totally ridiculous and on the serious parts on which it's adressed it's turn into a comical moment.

No matter how much people here are saying that Naruto and Sasuke is equal to Karin and Sasuke, is ridiculous, we know why Naruto wants to save Sasuke it doenst do any good on that relationship on which for me screwed the story but not destroyed his character because for me it was the Ashura who did it, anyway on Karin's case we dont even have a explanation, she goes there asspulling Jutsus, she has literally no purpose on this story, i simply dont get what's Kishi is thinking about her character, it's completely bullsh**, she has no motivation, no reasons and is doing her best to save Sasuke like the scene where he betrayed her never existed and the conflicts on which she was telling herself that she hated him because of the betrayal were resolved with an "i'm sorry" because she is a fangirl.

She's way worse than Sakura on part 1 which was annoying for me, but that's too much, i cant hande it.

 

Sakurasou light novel ending is a masterpiece compared to Karin's character.

 

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 06:32 PM

Isn't it strange that all of the gates techniques are named after animals and this one is called "night guy"? :/ it just seems strange.

 

maybe because it's the final blow? He considers himself as a beast, after all...


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Posted 05 April 2014 - 06:54 PM

 
maybe because it's the final blow? He considers himself as a beast, after all...

Good point. At least we get a proper farewell unless something happens. Though I do wonder if time stops in Naruto/Sasuke's situation, or the time moving along with it? This...could scare people. Saving grace would be flashback.

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 09:09 PM

I get why you would want it like that, but it just wasn't the type of direction that Kishimoto wanted. I just tend to accept the stories as they are so I have less complains. Within the realm of fiction I just go with the morality an author gives in the story since it makes me enjoy it more.
 
Not to say that you're wrong to have critiques, not at all. Just explaining why I have such a different view.


I see this place as somewhere I can express my opinion, positive or negative. It's all I intend. I've long accepted that he is going to a way with which I disagree. I strongly suspect we would disagree on basic philosophical level.
 

It was a joke, but not at the fact that Karin was stabbed. The joke is how Suigetsu is an insensitive ass about it. The audience is not meant to go "Haha Karin go stabbed", is supposed to be "Did Suigetsu really just say that? Dear God what a prick lol". At least that's how I saw it.



I don't think it's a matter worthy if comedy, period. Unless, the design is to make the audience disgusted with him I can't see it mattering. Ass or not, I think the audience was supposed to get a chuckle out of it. That's the entire problem. The intent is comedy.
 

I won't blame you for your point of view. It's just that, as I said above, Kishi has a different approach about the whole situation. I get why his choices can be frustrating for someone like you, but I suppose that's just something all fans have to deal with.


If approach all it were I wouldn't be so vexed. I'm fine with the different world view. It's not fine that it's presentation has resulted in the complete loss of any accountability and responsibility for almost everyone. And I'm not fine with his method of dealing with the problems with the philosophy which is to either ignore the problem or to cheat his way through it.

Dude, I can't call anyone out if I don't remember names and I have no desire to look posts that I read months and years ago. I have no desire to spend my time i such an annoying task just because you don't like how I do things.
 
I have no obligation towards you and I already told you that if you want to remain doubtful about me you can be my guess.


Not what I mean.

Who said you had such any obligation to do anything? I was simply explaining why your post bothered me.

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 10:18 PM

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I think gai gate equivalent with kakashi kamui, sm, or raikage armor.
The only enemy for gate is time.
Still gate make you go beyond kage level.
I always tought only the wielder of three part of juubi that can go beyond kage level. Until the revelation of reincarnation.

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 11:10 PM

 

maybe because it's the final blow? He considers himself as a beast, after all...

 

Well if it is "night guy" I am sure it means his death like goodnight guy. 


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Posted 05 April 2014 - 11:25 PM

Warning incoming rant.

Since I got some time and I was able to think about this chapter a bit more I’m now ready to tell you, what I think of it.

Now I’ve actually enjoyed this chapter right up until we saw Sasuke with the Rikudou, that’s when everything just fell to pieces. This chapter pissed me out so much that I’m even having trouble writing this. It makes me mad just thinking about it.

But before I’ll talk about that, I’m going to do an overview of chapter and talk about the things that we learned from it.

So we learn that Sasuke is the reincarnation of Indra, not a surprise at all it was obvious. We also learn that Kishi is very fond of Ctrl+c and Ctrl+v since he just decided not to bother drawing new panels and just copy and paste from previous chapters. He must be very proud of his copy-paste skills.

We find out that the previous reincarnations of Ashura and Indra were Hashirama and Madara, again obvious and we learn “exactly” why Madara was able to get the Rinnegan. And of course we finally learn what Ninshuu is, and you know what it is? It’s the same thing as Ninjutsu, there is no real difference except the name. This is really the first thing that pissed me off about this chapter. Last week I really wanted to know the truth about the Rikudou, what he wanted, Ninshuu etc. and we sort of get that.

Short answer on what Ninshuu/Ninjutsu is. It’s just a tool.  The name is different that’s all. Basically Ninshuu good, Ninjutsu bad. It’s just a tool nothing more nothing less and like everything in the world it can either be used to good or for bad. It depends on each individual to decide what to do. Ninshuu Ninjutsu it’s just a matter of perspective.

The Rikudou also explained that Kaguya eventually began to use her power to control, proving something that we already knew. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Anyway the Bijuus gathered around the Rikudou and Naruto, and the Rikudou says that the time has come for the child of prophecy to change the world. Now the Rikudou wants to know exactly what Naruto will do from now on, how exactly will he change the world? To which Naruto responds with he wants to protect his friends. This is basically Kishimoto admitting the fact that he doesn’t know how handle the whole “bring true peace in the world”. He backed himself into a corner and he doesn’t have a clue on how to handle such an idea, it’s too complex for him. I guaranty you that the story will end with peace between the nations but Naruto still wasn’t found an answer on how to bring true peace and he’s still searching for it.

 

Now the following part pissed me how a lot but not as much as what Naruto said at the end of the chapter. We see that the Rikudou paid a little visit to Sasuke as well and it’s not exactly specified but it seems that Sasuke got the same treatment as Naruto. And the question that the Rikudou asked Naruto was also given to Sasuke. In the end the Rikudou gives both Naruto and Sasuke power. Now before I talk about why this is just retarded, I have to say something about the reincarnation crap.

Making Naruto a reincarnation and the child of prophecy because of that reincarnation is stupid. By doing this Kishi nullified a big chunk of part 1. That whole theme of “Destiny cannot be change and it’s pointless to try and you should just accept it. And you can change your destiny if you try hard enough” was rendered pointless. Because Naruto wasn’t a loser at all and he didn’t try to change his destiny at all, actually he was following the destiny path all along. He wasn’t a loser he had the power within his body all along; he just didn’t know how to tap it. The child of prophecy nonsense could’ve been handled so much better. From part 1 we saw that there’s something special about Naruto so the leap from that to the child of prophecy (the one that will bring peace in the world) could’ve been manageable. If Naruto was someone who shared the same ideals as the Rikudou, not a reincarnation of someone.

 

This part is where Kishimoto proves that he’s really a Sasuke fanboy. Why in God’s name did Sasuke get to meet the Rikudou as well? I hate this part so much, Kishi has been constantly hammering us with Naruto is the child of prophecy nonsense for years. Only to change to “No no Naruto is not the child of prophecy. Naruto is just half of the child of prophecy the other half is Sasuke.” Naruto and Sasuke “is” the child of prophecy. And yes I know it’s not exactly specified but that’s what the chapter implies.

That Naruto and Sasuke together will change the world. I hope that this is just the Rikudou having faith in Naruto that he can change the Indra reincarnation because if it’s not it’s just bs.

 

Moving on to the most idiotic moment I’ve seen in this entire story. Naruto declares that he and Sasuke are really great friends. This moment made my blood boil. I wanted to mention this when the chapter came out but I knew it was too much to talk about.

I’m sick and tired of Kishi’s favoritism towards Sasuke and making Naruto so fixated on Sasuke.

First of all really Naruto; Sasuke and you are really great friends? The guy tried to kill you and the so called love of your life multiple times. And you call him your friend? What the hell is wrong with this guy? When I saw that moment I actually wanted to be character in that story so I can slap the bastard.

 

Look I understand the friendship bond, brotherly love, bromance, love can saves us and all that crap perfectly. But there has to be a limit to that. At one point you have to draw the line and stop because it’s enough. When Naruto told Sasuke that he’ll die with him, I thought Naruto meant that we wants to show Sasuke that he (Sasuke) has someone in his life that truly cares about him and he’s willing to go that far for him. But right now the way Naruto acts, I wouldn’t be surprised if he lets Sasuke kill him and Naruto’s dying wish will be for Sasuke to be the Hokage, because only he can change the world. That’s how obsessed Kishimoto made Naruto with Sasuke. When it comes to Sasuke, everyone in Naruto’s life takes a back seat. Let’s be perfectly clear if Naruto plays his cards right he can have both Sakura and Hinata and maybe even Ino, but of course he doesn’t really care about them. He wants his true love, Sasuke. It’s funny people say Sakura is obsessed with Sasuke, when in reality it’s Naruto.

 

Can someone please tell what is so special about Sasuke? Please I would like to know. Because as a character he’s poorly written and as a person in the “Naruto” universe Sasuke is a scumbag. Not only that but everyone owns Sasuke’s ass and somehow at the end of the day everyone kisses Sasuke’s ass.

He gets everything for free and absolutely no consequences. Free power from Orochimaru, free power from Itachi, free power from Hashirama, free power from Kabuto (possibly), free power from the Rikudou. And not once did he actually deserve any of those power-ups. Everything Naruto gets, Sasuke gets for free. Now this one’s just for fun, after Naruto and Sakura will get together, Sakura is just going to give herself to Sasuke. You know why? Because everything Naruto gets, Sasuke gets as well for free.

 

When will Kishi have Naruto grow up? When will Naruto realize that Sasuke just doesn’t give a kitten about him? When will this exaggerated brotherly love that ruined the story, stop? When will the writer stop kissing the ass of a character he created?

There is a ton more I want to say about this but I’ve already written too much and for now it’s enough. I’m not finished, there is a lot I haven’t talked about.


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 06 April 2014 - 01:34 AM

@nostradamus
This is (weekly) shonen (jump) lol...

Btw try to read this manga, Alive: the final evolution and slam dunk.
If you want you can try berserk.

Edited by rocci, 06 April 2014 - 01:35 AM.


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Posted 06 April 2014 - 08:22 AM

Well reading u guys post i think i am not the only one who is pissed off by the last chapter i was like " yay its the game on . Gooo naruto " then when sasuke's page arrives i was " wtf wtf wtf. This is not happening i refreshed the page 3 times.

And i wanna say i agree with ya xxRomance girlxx . Naruto is the child of prophecy not sasuke

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 01:54 PM

I didn't know Heaven and Earth was Naruto and Sasuke. This is a shounen ai. It's about their bond. I have no clue where Sakura fits in.

I think if Sasuke killed Sakura, Naruto would forgive him. Everyone would.

The protection Sasuke gets, I thought that is only for the main hero/heroine?

I hope their final battle doesn't go where Sasuke is about to kill Naruto then Naruto talks some sense into him. That would just show Sasuke will always be better.

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 02:46 PM

Night guy... I wonder from where they've pulled out that night month :wot:

 

Because most of the gates' techniques (at least after the 5th one) have names and mechanics associated with an animal. It's not that unreasonable to think that the next one would have that same association. This might just be me, but I prefer Night Moth and the name did come from the translation team that's usually more accurate.

 

Night Guy...To be honest,  it sounds more like an exclusive move of Guy's (a technique referring to a specific person) than something that would be obtainable for anyone who masters the gates. If Lee or Dai were to use that same ability, would it be called "Night Guy" or would their names be referenced instead? 


Edited by Atheck, 06 April 2014 - 02:47 PM.


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Posted 06 April 2014 - 03:03 PM

So can we expect spoilers today?
 
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Posted 06 April 2014 - 03:21 PM

So can we expect spoilers today?

Apparently this is it: z00.jpg

 

It's from mangabee.

 

Edit: Most likely it's Gai. Presumably it's the Night Guy move.


Edited by Nostradamus, 06 April 2014 - 03:40 PM.

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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 06 April 2014 - 03:35 PM

Is it Gai? I can't see too well.
 
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Posted 06 April 2014 - 03:42 PM

 

Because most of the gates' techniques (at least after the 5th one) have names and mechanics associated with an animal. It's not that unreasonable to think that the next one would have that same association. This might just be me, but I prefer Night Moth and the name did come from the translation team that's usually more accurate.

 

Night Guy...To be honest,  it sounds more like an exclusive move of Guy's (a technique referring to a specific person) than something that would be obtainable for anyone who masters the gates. If Lee or Dai were to use that same ability, would it be called "Night Guy" or would their names be referenced instead? 

 

Sorry but translation "Night moth" is a complete kitten. It's fully wrong, there's no moth there. It's "ya gai! (Night guy). It's an epicl fail from Mangapanda, it happens.

 

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fake... it's a fanmade.... Expecting a spoiler tomorrow when WSJ will be out officialy in Japan.


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Posted 06 April 2014 - 03:45 PM

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fake... it's a fanmade.... Expecting a spoiler tomorrow when WSJ will be out officialy in Japan.

Really? Well that sucks. I don't even understand why mangabee even posted it if it's fake. I mean if it was on deviantart I would understand it.

Thanks for the information.

 

Actually truth be told I do understand why. It drives people to their website and since there's more traffic they make more money from the ads.


Edited by Nostradamus, 06 April 2014 - 04:02 PM.

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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.





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