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#221 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:10 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Sep 13 2012, 10:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Already watched the latest anime?
Watch it and cry out how much bulls*it is in there

Haven't watch the anime in a while. I will continue to watch once they reach to the part we're up to in the manga. Why should I care btw? I know they're in filler and judging by the screenshots at 2chan, it's the usual episode. If it's Hinata and no Naruto, then why should I be affected by it? Have we already established that the studio is Hinata's worship, not NaruHina. Sadly though, her character does love Naruto, so expect that aspect to expose. But again, no Naruto, no real love. Like Naruto actually stop loving. Besides, they're more servicing on NaruSaku, hence more interaction between them and more insights on them, let alone that they keep having Sakura in a confused state, not knowing who is she in love with. Call me when they actually make an opening/ending with NaruHina that actually have both of them interact. Either way, I still get worried. As many already said, she is a minor character with lots of fanservice by the studio.

Btw, if we and they accept this, then I guess episode 235 is now acceptable. Good job, everyone.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:12 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Sep 13 2012, 08:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Haven't watch the anime in a while. I will continue to watch once they reach to the part we're up to in the manga. Why should I care btw? I know they're in filler and judging by the screenshots at 2chan, it's the usual episode. If it's Hinata and no Naruto, then why should I be affected by it? Have we already established that the studio is Hinata's worship, not NaruHina. Sadly though, her character does love Naruto, so expect that aspect to expose. But again, no Naruto, no real love. Like Naruto actually stop loving. Besides, they're more servicing on NaruSaku, hence more interaction between them and more insights on them, let alone that they keep having Sakura in a confused state, not knowing who is she in love with. Call me when they actually make an opening/ending with NaruHina that actually have both of them interact. Either way, I still get worried. As many already said, she is a minor character with lots of fanservice by the studio.

Btw, if we and they accept this, then I guess episode 235 is now acceptable. Good job, everyone.


Hmm, good point.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:20 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Sep 13 2012, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Haven't watch the anime in a while. I will continue to watch once they reach to the part we're up to in the manga. Why should I care btw? I know they're in filler and judging by the screenshots at 2chan, it's the usual episode. If it's Hinata and no Naruto, then why should I be affected by it? Have we already established that the studio is Hinata's worship, not NaruHina. Sadly though, her character does love Naruto, so expect that aspect to expose. But again, no Naruto, no real love. Like Naruto actually stop loving. Besides, they're more servicing on NaruSaku, hence more interaction between them and more insights on them, let alone that they keep having Sakura in a confused state, not knowing who is she in love with. Call me when they actually make an opening/ending with NaruHina that actually have both of them interact. Either way, I still get worried. As many already said, she is a minor character with lots of fanservice by the studio.

Btw, if we and they accept this, then I guess episode 235 is now acceptable. Good job, everyone.


Yeah but you know what pisses me off is that this comes after episode 278 with sakura thinking of sasuke and now what we will see next is naruto savin hinata and then hinata thikning of naruto while shes on the way to him.

I dont doubt NS but it just sucks to see hinata thinking of naruto every epsiode!!

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:26 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Sep 13 2012, 11:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah but you know what pisses me off is that this comes after episode 278 with sakura thinking of sasuke and now what we will see next is naruto savin hinata and then hinata thikning of naruto while shes on the way to him.

I dont doubt NS but it just sucks to see hinata thinking of naruto every epsiode!!

Another example of this fiasco.

Boy oh boy, I can't wait for this whole thing dies out once and for all, especially if this particular person dies, no room for Hinata at all. I'm not even worried like many of you guys are. It's funny, it should have technically died out when Naruto felt the chakra of the only one that he felt precious with (remember sensing them). To me, that is like telling you "Naruto is Naruto. The end." I guess we need a small panel of him thinking of Sakura and bam, the whole Hinata stuff ends. Don't worry, we're almost there. Like I said, you get developments from others in the middle and the main development such as main characters and the main pairing happens with a big bang. That's how I always see it. Look at Pain Arc and tell me I'm wrong.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:26 PM

hey guys, move the anime discussion to the current episode thread so more people can respond. thx wink.gif

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:26 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Sep 13 2012, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah but you know what pisses me off is that this comes after episode 278 with sakura thinking of sasuke and now what we will see next is naruto savin hinata and then hinata thikning of naruto while shes on the way to him.

I dont doubt NS but it just sucks to see hinata thinking of naruto every epsiode!!

what should she think about huh.gif ?
her clan
neji
her sister
becoming stronger
accually I'm not pissed of at all with the new episode the more i see it the anime team is more of a hinata body fanservice then a character ,

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:29 PM

QUOTE (tricksie @ Sep 13 2012, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hey guys, move the anime discussion to the current episode thread so more people can respond. thx wink.gif

Good point. At least in this manga, it keeps supporting Naruto that he must accomplish what other "losers" couldn't. Not just love, but in everything. I don't feel doubt anymore. Obito is like reassuring that Naruto should not fail like him with all respect (well at least his old self). So yeah, quit worrying. Damn, now I don't want flashback anymore because I just want this whole fiasco to die.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:31 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Sep 13 2012, 06:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Another example of this fiasco.

I'm not even worried like many of you guys are. It's funny, it should have technically died out when Naruto felt the chakra of the only one that he felt precious with (remember sensing them). To me, that is like telling you "Naruto is Naruto. The end."

what chakra sensing are you talking about huh.gif
have I missed something?

#229 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:36 PM

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Sep 13 2012, 11:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
what chakra sensing are you talking about huh.gif
have I missed something?

Don't remember if it was chakra sensing, but I remember that the way to find out what's going on, he senses everyone, or more like senses the one he precious (or what Kishi cares the most). It had Kakashi, Gai (since he is with him), Sakura, Shikamaru (Kishi's most worked minor character), and Zetsu as in who's the enemy. So yeah, so much for trying to squeeze all of them.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:56 PM

QUOTE (Nefertieh @ Sep 13 2012, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm responding to the hysteria that Sakura will somehow think she deserves to be stabbed after empathizing with Sasuke's loss.

The whole village will be in mourning if Tsunade dies. The ninja world, maybe, considering she's used the last of her life to save the other Kages.


Ok what I meant is that Sasuke hand went through Naruto's chest and Naruto was able to empathize with Sasuke even after he tried to kill him 4 times, promised Naruto the same things he promised Sakura, so if Kishimoto refuse to make Sakura do a reevaluation of her history with Sasuke and makes her empathize with him, why only Sakura most keep in mind all the things Sasuke has don't to her but not Naruto?

That's my point, I'm not making an argument for SS I just think that is not fair to seeing how people fucus about Naruto and Sasuke but, but not an Sakura and Sasuke bond after she understands his pain.

That's why I was against her empathizing with him before having a personal reality check about her romantic feelings for him, otherwise we will have a Naruto 2.0 completely devoted to Sasuke too, since Kishi wants his characters and the readers to feel sorry for Sasuke, only need to see how many times he went over th Uchiha stuff to understand the author desire.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 04:46 PM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Sep 14 2012, 03:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok what I meant is that Sasuke hand went through Naruto's chest and Naruto was able to empathize with Sasuke even after he tried to kill him 4 times, promised Naruto the same things he promised Sakura, so if Kishimoto refuse to make Sakura do a reevaluation of her history with Sasuke and makes her empathize with him, why only Sakura most keep in mind all the things Sasuke has don't to her but not Naruto?

That's my point, I'm not making an argument for SS I just think that is not fair to seeing how people fucus about Naruto and Sasuke but, but not an Sakura and Sasuke bond after she understands his pain.

That's why I was against her empathizing with him before having a personal reality check about her romantic feelings for him, otherwise we will have a Naruto 2.0 completely devoted to Sasuke too, since Kishi wants his characters and the readers to feel sorry for Sasuke, only need to see how many times he went over th Uchiha stuff to understand the author desire.


Empathy is when you understand someone else's feelings because you experienced a similar situation. Naruto never lost anyone he actually knew, hence he could not completely empathize with Sasuke's loss.



It isn't Sakura's job to empathize with Sasuke, it is Naruto's. She doesn't share their brotherly bond, their rivalry, or their loneliness.

She might care for Sasuke and admire him, but their bond isn't going to grow considering they hardly talk to each other. Naruto is at the stage where he can understand Sasuke whenever they clash in a fight.

Edited by Nefertieh, 13 September 2012 - 04:51 PM.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 05:07 PM

QUOTE (Nefertieh @ Sep 13 2012, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Empathy is when you understand someone else's feelings because you experienced a similar situation. Naruto never lost anyone he actually knew, hence he could not completely empathize with Sasuke's loss.



It isn't Sakura's job to empathize with Sasuke, it is Naruto's. She doesn't share their brotherly bond, their rivalry, or their loneliness.

She might care for Sasuke and admire him, but their bond isn't going to grow considering they hardly talk to each other. Naruto is at the stage where he can understand Sasuke whenever they clash in a fight.


i'll quite Narusaku if sakura says something like this "i understand you now Sasuke-kun".
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Posted 13 September 2012 - 05:14 PM

But you didn't when Naruto said he understood Sasuke?

I think you're forgetting that Sakura isn't nearly as close to Sasuke as Naruto is.
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Posted 13 September 2012 - 05:18 PM

QUOTE (Nefertieh @ Sep 13 2012, 05:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But you didn't when Naruto said he understood Sasuke?

I think you're forgetting that Sakura isn't nearly as close to Sasuke as Naruto is.


i'm saying that if she says something like that it will ruin her character, sasuke tried to kill her two times, and did a lot of bad things for her, so she just accept it saying that he did it because of revenge and he was right so it opens a precedent that he can do everything to sakura and can even harm that she will accept him , this is the problem that i'm saying if she really do it i'll hope for some girl with a very long red hair to shows up and take sakura's place as the main character love interest.

Edited by dovahkiin, 13 September 2012 - 05:25 PM.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 05:29 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Sep 14 2012, 05:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i'm saying that if she says something like that it will ruin her character, sasuke tried to kill her two times, and did a lot of bad things for her, so she just accept it saying that he did it because of revenge and he was right so it opens a precedent that he can do everything to sakura and can even harm that she will accept him , this is the problem that i'm saying if she really did it i'll hope for some girl with a very long red hair to shows up and take sakura's place as the main character love interest.


Right, but let's not forget Naruto is willing to save and forgive Sasuke after he tried to kill him numerous times as well.

Sakura won't "accept" him now that she lost Tsunade. He is part of the reason that she is dead. If anything, it looks as if Kishimoto is making her think the opposite of Sasuke (Karui's comment, and later the love letter nin's comment).

I'm not sure what facts you're basing the second part of your comment on. Naruto's not giving up on Sasuke despite his insanity, why would he give up on Sakura, in this odd scenario you came up with?

Edited by Nefertieh, 13 September 2012 - 06:13 PM.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 05:31 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Sep 13 2012, 06:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i'll quite Narusaku if sakura says something like this "i understand you now Sasuke-kun".


I dont mind if she say smth like that but if she gives sasuke another chance ill quit too and rage all around the world

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 05:50 PM

QUOTE (Nefertieh @ Sep 13 2012, 06:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Right, but let's not forget Naruto is willing to save and forgive Sasuke after he tried to kill him numerous times as well.

Sakura won't "accept" him now that she lost Tsunade. He is part of the reason that she is dead. If anything, it looks as if Kishimoto is making her think the opposite of Sasuke (Karui's comment, and later the love letter nin's comment).

I'm not sure what facts you're basing the second part of your comment on. Naruto's not giving up on Sasuke despite his insanity, why would he give up on Sakura, in his odd scenario you came up with?

the odd scenario is "sasuke did hurtfull and tried to kill her multiple times, so it's okay to her accept it and say that sasuke is a victim and it's okay if he do something like this again in a nearly future kill innocents it's okay so she must continue loving this man?"
this is the odd scenario, so if she thinks that sasuke is a better man for her and deserve her love, i dont think naruto deserve someome that thinks this way, sakura and sasuke can still be friends but as a love pairing it's unacceptable because of the things he did, sasuke hasnt show any love feelings for her, naruto always save her from danger, he's always protecting her and saving her and sasuke get all the credit and is rewarded with the main's character love interest this is bad"
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Posted 13 September 2012 - 05:53 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Sep 13 2012, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the odd scenario is "sasuke did hurtfull and tried to kill her multiple times, so it's okay to her accept it and say that sasuke is a victim and it's okay if he do something like this again in a nearly future kill innocents it's okay so she must continue loving this man?"
this is the odd scenario, so if she thinks that sasuke is a better man for her and deserve her love, i dont think naruto deserve someome that thinks this way, sakura and sasuke can still be friends but as a love pairing it's unacceptable because of the things he did, sasuke hasnt show any love feelings for her, naruto always save her from danger, he's always protecting her and saving her and sasuke get all the credit and is rewarded with the main's character love interest this is bad"


That the point biggrin.gif

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 05:57 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Sep 13 2012, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That the point biggrin.gif

the worst of all, without any effort

Edited by dovahkiin, 13 September 2012 - 05:59 PM.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 06:12 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Sep 14 2012, 05:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the odd scenario is "sasuke did hurtfull and tried to kill her multiple times, so it's okay to her accept it and say that sasuke is a victim and it's okay if he do something like this again in a nearly future kill innocents it's okay so she must continue loving this man?"
this is the odd scenario, so if she thinks that sasuke is a better man for her and deserve her love, i dont think naruto deserve someome that thinks this way, sakura and sasuke can still be friends but as a love pairing it's unacceptable because of the things he did, sasuke hasnt show any love feelings for her, naruto always save her from danger, he's always protecting her and saving her and sasuke get all the credit and is rewarded with the main's character love interest this is bad"


Read my comment above.
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