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#221 lord287

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 11:37 AM

QUOTE (AzureWaters @ Apr 12 2012, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I cannot see Sakura choosing life and death between Sasuke and Naruto. I have no doubt that she would find a way to save both, and would likely turn away from making a choice between the two. Despite his current state, Sasuke still means a great deal to Sakura after all. I don't really believe she favors one over the other, no matter which boy she decides to romantically get involved with.



Well i don't think sasuke means a great deal to sakura,because ih he is still as big a deal as he was earlier then their is no way sakura choses naruto in the end if sasuke becomes good, but she do care for him(sasuke) very much just like naruto wants sasuke back but if she has to chose between Current Sasuke and Naruto I think she will readily chose naruto but if sasuke turns good and fights alongside naruto and then both of them are in life-death situation I think then she won't chose anyone until naruto like always sacrifice himself saying and compelling her to leave him and save sasuke!! Moreover i don't think their is much of a role left for sakura now! The only role i feel she has now is to chose naruto over sasuke with pure feelings and not half heartedly!!

*edit*- By the way she already have chosen Naruto because she got kind of ready to kill sasuke just to stop sasuke from becoming more evil as well as saving naruto from his burden!! Moreover if she choses sasuke in the end it will be very bad since if she really loved sasuke she would not have left hope for sasuke and not left all her faith on naruto!!

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 11:42 AM

QUOTE (lord287 @ Apr 12 2012, 11:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
which chapter did this thing happen! I thinki must have seen bt forgetting it! Can u plz tell which chapter or which canime episode he gave this ultimatum and was sakura ready to kill naruto back then or not???


It was in the same episode. He just used it to demonstrate a point, he didn't actually intend to kill anyone. No, she wasn't ready. She hesitated, and that was the point.
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 11:53 AM

QUOTE (lord287 @ Apr 11 2012, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't understand what from would naruto have to save her from if she was in place of sasuke! Yes if the conditions of sakura were same or even similar to that of sasuke then naruto definitely would have gone and done anything in his power to bring her back and then we would have got even more of trying because he also loves sakura romantically and not only friendly biggrin.gif

But their is no point discussing what he would have done because sakura don't have any such problem of hatred and i don't think she will have any such problem!

*edit*- sorry i double posted


hey guys i was just thinking when i used to watch only anime and not read the manga, and predict some pairings they usually used to become true! and by seeing the anime of naruto(even though i read the manga also) i am thinking that narusaku will not happen!

I think this might also be due to the new ending theme and that utakata hanabi ending but what do u guys think will happen if u were only watching anime and U were considering the fillers also canon!

By watching only anime i don't think narusaku is going canon(though manga is also not helping much lately) but just wanted to know what u guys would have thought if u only watched the anime!


apologies for my weak english!!

Still.think about it.it wouldn't be realistic if Naruto loves Sakura for the whole thing and at the end just stops loving Sakura because of some "realization"and starts loving someone else,besides who else would Naruto love?They can't introduce a new character and Naruto falls for her,because NaruSaku has history,and if that did happen it would be so unrealistic that most people would just stop watching it. sakura.gif thats what would happen to that girl anyway.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 11:55 AM

QUOTE (Kyuzo Hatake @ Apr 12 2012, 11:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Still.think about it.it wouldn't be realistic if Naruto loves Sakura for the whole thing and at the end just stops loving Sakura because of some "realization"and starts loving someone else


You mean...kind of how we expect Sakura to do for Naruto?
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 12:02 PM

QUOTE (PachucoDesigns @ Apr 12 2012, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You mean...kind of how we expect Sakura to do for Naruto?


pretty much but if Kishimoto has a brain he wouldn't do that.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 12:04 PM

I think there's plenty more for Sakura to do in this manga, pother than simply being pairing fodder. While I have no doubt in my mind that she will ultimately have to make a choice between Naruto and Sasuke, I think there's an ever more important task for that she must complete first and is to surpass Tsunade, or at least to get over the self-esteem issues that have plagued her since pretty much since day one. I think that once she proves to herself, that she is in fact a "good person" and also a powerful shinobi, then she will be able to make the right choice. But what is the right choice is, nobody knows yet, not even Sakura herself.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 12:10 PM

QUOTE (PachucoDesigns @ Apr 12 2012, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You mean...kind of how we expect Sakura to do for Naruto?



Actually atleast I would not have liked the idea of narusaku to happen if sakura would have to do something only in the end! The part where naruto's feeling for any other girl including hinata is different from sakura's feelings towards naruto is that naruto never came closer to any other girl other than sakura and always loved her whereas sakura won't be doigng a 360 turn if she choses naruto in the end because she came a lot closer to naruto during part 2 which may have lead to formation of romantic feelings of sakura towards naruto!!

Therefore we expecting sakura to chose naruto is totally different from naruto chosing any other girl! The only point valid is sakura's realization of love towards naruto has got pretty late and complicated!

Therefore if sakura choses naruto it will not turn out to be very shocking for people whereas in other pairings


naruto choosing hinata or other girl- very shocking since he is title character and doing complete 360 turn especially after loving sakura for so long and his nindo that is never give up


And i hope
sasuke choosing sakura will also be a complete 360 turn in his character since he never ever thought about sakura that way moreover he never deeply cared for her any time!!


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sakura choosing naruto is perfectly fine because she developed so many feelings for him which can easily be seen since very earlier she though of him as nothing and disliked him and now i Think he is the most important person to her even more than Sasuke!!



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QUOTE (Kyuzo Hatake @ Apr 12 2012, 05:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
pretty much but if Kishimoto has a brain he wouldn't do that.

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wait what r u trying to say! R u saying if kishi has a brain he wouldn't do NS???? headscratch.gif Or u simple didn't understand the statement made by the person u put ur comments on!

And i hope @PachucoDesigns that u have understood why sakura realizing her love for naruto will be very different from naruto realizing his love for any other girl!

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 12:50 PM

I still think the Animu/Manga would have been better if Naruto was actually a female. but thats just how I feel about it. Was actually talking to Lid about that in VC yesterday and he lol'd at me being a fanboy for Naruko.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 12:56 PM

QUOTE (TerrorKing @ Apr 12 2012, 01:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think there's plenty more for Sakura to do in this manga, pother than simply being pairing fodder. While I have no doubt in my mind that she will ultimately have to make a choice between Naruto and Sasuke, I think there's an ever more important task for that she must complete first and is to surpass Tsunade, or at least to get over the self-esteem issues that have plagued her since pretty much since day one. I think that once she proves to herself, that she is in fact a "good person" and also a powerful shinobi, then she will be able to make the right choice. But what is the right choice is, nobody knows yet, not even Sakura herself.

I agree with you there Sakura really wants a chance to prove herself as good as Tsunade.As for her choice,I think everyone's worrying to much about that now instead of thinking about the ever present problem of Sakura's "worth" in her own eyes.

QUOTE (Fyuria'sLeo @ Apr 12 2012, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I still think the Animu/Manga would have been better if Naruto was actually a female. but thats just how I feel about it. Was actually talking to Lid about that in VC yesterday and he lol'd at me being a fanboy for Naruko.

I'm pretty much undecided on that because it would solve many problems but arise more.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 01:43 PM

QUOTE (lord287 @ Apr 11 2012, 06:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hey guys i was just thinking when i used to watch only anime and not read the manga, and predict some pairings they usually used to become true! and by seeing the anime of naruto(even though i read the manga also) i am thinking that narusaku will not happen!

I think this might also be due to the new ending theme and that utakata hanabi ending but what do u guys think will happen if u were only watching anime and U were considering the fillers also canon!

By watching only anime i don't think narusaku is going canon(though manga is also not helping much lately) but just wanted to know what u guys would have thought if u only watched the anime!


apologies for my weak english!!


I will only replay with this.

QUOTE (donjoseph19 @ Apr 7 2012, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Fillers OP and ED there is a lot more focus on
Sakura>>>>Naruto- Sakura>>>>>Sasuke, also there are many episode that shows Sakura having feeling for Naruto, and Sakura and Naruto been nice with each other.

From anime we get.

Naruto>>>>Sakura from crush>> understanding why he likes her>> becoming her guardian and now a Selfless love

Sakura>>>>Sasuke from crush>> obsession>> angt>> now sorrow and sadness.

Hinata>>>> Naruto from admiration>> to a heavy one side love>> obsession>> and still after all that Naruto stated two times that he loves Sakura.

There is no Sasuke>>>>Sakura it went from annoying girl>> comrade>> Indifference>> who cares about you>> and now intent to kill.

Naruto>>>>Hinada from wierd dark girl>>>I like people like you>>>>>respect and notice that she is a person>>>>after her confession to admit that he still love Sakura and nothing will make him more happy than finaly gating her to love him back.

Is true that we get from the anime team Hinata centric feelings for Naruto, that are only Hinata centric feelings for Naruto interpreted by the shippers as NH moments.

You cannot say the same about Naruto and Sakura they both see the other in a romatic light.
Part one the buge beetle (water fall) episode was destroyed by the (Jiraiya,Sakura and Naruto rescue and fake Kabuto episode), part two 166, 167 filler was destroyed by the the rasen shuriken training and episode 235 filler.

The endings 12, 13, and 21 was destroyed by endong 19 and 16 and still there's a lot more that focus more on NS.

Bisides all of the movies are focus more on NS hints, there is no movie that focus on NH hins at all, also Sakura jealousy, she always get angry when another girl show interest in Naruto, Manga, anime, and movies, but when Sakura gifs naruto a tender hug the other girl is happy for them .

NH, SS focus combined are greater because of Hinata fans in the studio, but NS hins are a lot more clearer and solid.
So imagine if the Studio animator weren't Hinata fans.


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Posted 12 April 2012 - 02:16 PM

QUOTE (Kyuzo Hatake @ Apr 12 2012, 08:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm pretty much undecided on that because it would solve many problems but arise more.

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It would but kishi would have so many ways to bring the manga so it would have been a fun experience.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 02:24 PM

QUOTE (Fyuria'sLeo @ Apr 12 2012, 06:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It would but kishi would have so many ways to bring the manga so it would have been a fun experience.


Didn't Melancholy of Haruhi have a such a huge fanbase with the gender swap that they actually made a gender swap anime of it? (or manga)

Interesting to see a gender-swap of Naruto and we know there are many renditions of it.
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 06:41 PM

hey guys i was thinking do we have a thread in this site where all narusaku moments have been posted?? I will really like to read them all from the very beginning!

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 06:45 PM

QUOTE (lord287 @ Apr 12 2012, 04:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
which chapter did this thing happen! I thinki must have seen bt forgetting it! Can u plz tell which chapter or which canime episode he gave this ultimatum and was sakura ready to kill naruto back then or not???


No she wasn't going to kill Naruto she freaked out and hesitated, she obviously doesn't want to kill him. And I think it was chapter 6 or 7 don't remember well.

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I think you should ask ciardha she knows a site at photobucklet that has all NS moments from the manga from way the beginning part 1 to her confession part 2. Don't remember the link sorry. sweatdrop.gif

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 06:50 PM

QUOTE (lord287 @ Apr 12 2012, 01:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually atleast I would not have liked the idea of narusaku to happen if sakura would have to do something only in the end! The part where naruto's feeling for any other girl including hinata is different from sakura's feelings towards naruto is that naruto never came closer to any other girl other than sakura and always loved her whereas sakura won't be doigng a 360 turn if she choses naruto in the end because she came a lot closer to naruto during part 2 which may have lead to formation of romantic feelings of sakura towards naruto!!

Therefore we expecting sakura to chose naruto is totally different from naruto chosing any other girl! The only point valid is sakura's realization of love towards naruto has got pretty late and complicated!

Therefore if sakura choses naruto it will not turn out to be very shocking for people whereas in other pairings


naruto choosing hinata or other girl- very shocking since he is title character and doing complete 360 turn especially after loving sakura for so long and his nindo that is never give up


And i hope
sasuke choosing sakura will also be a complete 360 turn in his character since he never ever thought about sakura that way moreover he never deeply cared for her any time!!


wherras

sakura choosing naruto is perfectly fine because she developed so many feelings for him which can easily be seen since very earlier she though of him as nothing and disliked him and now i Think he is the most important person to her even more than Sasuke!!



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wait what r u trying to say! R u saying if kishi has a brain he wouldn't do NS???? headscratch.gif Or u simple didn't understand the statement made by the person u put ur comments on!

And i hope @PachucoDesigns that u have understood why sakura realizing her love for naruto will be very different from naruto realizing his love for any other girl!


If I have one wish in all of this, it would be for Kishimoto to show that it was never a simple matter of Sakura's choice, as though it's all about her getting her way. After all, I, for the longest time, never really believed that she deserved either of them. I appreciated Naruto turning her down that first time, because it was a humbling response that brought her back to reality. She was forced to realize that she's not to be considered a prize by default, that her acknowledging his advances isn't to be considered an honor. It's as much a matter of whether or not she deserves him as it is whether or not he deserves her.
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 08:20 PM

QUOTE (Fyuria'sLeo @ Apr 12 2012, 08:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I still think the Animu/Manga would have been better if Naruto was actually a female. but thats just how I feel about it. Was actually talking to Lid about that in VC yesterday and he lol'd at me being a fanboy for Naruko.

I think it would've been better if Sasuke was actually the female instead of Naruto. Is not very often when the rival of a main male character is actually a girl, and you already know everyone would be pairing those two if that was the case. If you're not convinced then look at this pic that Kim posted earlier:

At the very least I hope that if Sasuke lives he has a daughter that it turns out to look like that. Naruto's son would probably go crazy about her every day. biggrin.gif

QUOTE (PachucoDesigns @ Apr 12 2012, 02:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If I have one wish in all of this, it would be for Kishimoto to show that it was never a simple matter of Sakura's choice, as though it's all about her getting her way. After all, I, for the longest time, never really believed that she deserved either of them. I appreciated Naruto turning her down that first time, because it was a humbling response that brought her back to reality. She was forced to realize that she's not to be considered a prize by default, that her acknowledging his advances isn't to be considered an honor. It's as much a matter of whether or not she deserves him as it is whether or not he deserves her.

It's a possibility that after her confession to Naruto and seeing how it went down Sakura started to consider whether or not she deserved Naruto. Sakura went to confess with the mindset that Naruto had done enough to deserve HER love, but after all that happen she's probably thinking if she's worthy enough to deserve HIS love. Her mind made a sort of role reversal there.

For all we know maybe she only thinks of Sasuke in chapter 540 because she doesn't think she's worthy enough to think about a romantic future with Naruto. She might think that he would be happier with a better girl than her.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 08:24 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Apr 12 2012, 08:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it would've been if Sasuke was actually the female instead of Naruto. Is not very often when the rival of a main male character is actually a girl, and you already know everyone would be pairing those two if that was the case. If you're not convinced then look at this pic that Kim posted earlier:

At the very least I hope that if Sasuke lives he has a daughter that turns out to look like that. Naruto's son would probably go crazy about her every day. biggrin.gif


It's a possibility that after her confession to Naruto and seeing how it went down Sakura started to consider whether or not she deserved Naruto. Sakura went to confess with the mindset that Naruto had done enough to deserve HER love, but after all that happen she's probably thinking if she's worthy enough to deserve HIS love. Her mind made a sort of role reversal there.

For all we know maybe she only thinks of Sasuke in chapter 540 because she doesn't think she's worthy enough to think about a romantic future with Naruto. She might think that he would be happier with a better girl than her.


Sasuke never deserved her love, yet she gave it freely. And if that's what she was meant to think on after Naruto turned her down, if she finally understands that she doesn't deserve Naruto's love by default, then she took one more step toward earning it.
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 09:20 PM

Love isn't about who "deserves" who. It's about two people forming an intimate relationship by accepting each other for who they are. That means embracing both someones's good sides and someone's bad sides. Naruto and Sakura have both done that. The only question remaining now is if they're both willing to take their relationship to the next stage.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 01:50 AM

How would Naruto confront Sakura about their relationship, and would that lead into a romance.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 01:55 AM

QUOTE (Dragunov @ Apr 12 2012, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How would Naruto confront Sakura about their relationship, and would that lead into a romance.


A good start would be to just have a nice, honest, long (I think Kishi may not go for that though) conversation about everything that has happened to them over the course of the series, how they feel, how they want to feel in the future, where are they in the present, where do they want to be in the future. If Kishi could just give me something like that (the end result does not even need them to be canon), I would be satisfied.

All I want out of this whole thing is just an honest answer from both sides of what they want and if they want the same thing on the same level, then they are going to go for it. What's stopping them?

Edited by Anguyen92, 13 April 2012 - 01:58 AM.

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