I disagree with the part you said they downgrade sakura and glorify Hinata, i dont see the glorification because her appearances are literally pairing fanservices, she doesnt get filler arcs of her own showing her being badass or heroine-like.I don't know why are you disagreeing with me in here unless you are of the opinion that SP didn't screw up with Sakura and does a good job with her bc I wasn't even arguing in the first place whether or not they made Naruto look bad just Sakura .
Are you kidding with Sakura in here ? Its not the fact they make her a tsundere bc she obviously is its how they portrait it and its not just that part its with her overall character still my point was how they glorify Hinata (to much fan service don't see how is this good by what you are saying) and downgrade Sakura for her to shine and this is a fact .
the glorification comes from the NH fan who get what they want, Sakura's downgrade comes from the fact she's tied up with the classic tsundere joke that punchs the MC who's stupid but Naruto is 100 times more stupids on filler and she's always scolding him like some kind of sister.
Yes, Naruto on the manga is stupid, naruto on fillers is autism.As for Naruto I'm not sure what you mean that they make him look like the worst MC care to explain this ? Is it that they make him look like to much of an idiot bc only on that part I will agree but its still not any better or worse then what they do with Sakura also .
Naruto gets beaten by everyone if you have paid attetion, he starts the arcs being wrecked by the enemy and ends with nakama power to win, now sum this up with him being scolded by sakura because he's always doing something stupid and even tsundere moment that is not funny at all, like when naruto was sad because he could not save that boy who looked like a girl and Sakura suddenly jump on him and kick him.
I dont see any funny moment at all.
then he's wrecked some more by hodor and the shouton user until he converts her to narutism when they are swallowed by the 4 tails meanwhile his other friends are being wrecked aswell until they find nakama's power to defeat the generic villains.
also add the fact naruto is always on rage mode most of the time excluding the begining obviously.
another filler arc is the same thing with the difference is that is Sora, with him being not being the only one stupid but sora aswell and he once again, starts being wrecked and the theme is revenge.
He's also scolded by Sakura several times and punched by her because he's always being stupid and shows no intelligence.
some usual rage modes by him after the whole Sora thing and once again, generic villains.
i dont even need to point out the part where he and Lee are beaten by animal ninjas.
Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 14 July 2014 - 09:20 PM.
he should be forbidden to even have ones .
Well, I can say that I've heard some pretty ridiculous arguments coming from OUR side, but that... that's just sad. That's just really sad. That's why you vote and run. 
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