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[Gojira]

Hohoho.

 

Naruto Road to Ninja is going to be at selected theaters in USA. Oh joy, how many salty fans would be this time? Ah well, no false advertisements so far. Well, just one. Sasuke being cast as main in the movie. Yeah....all 2 minutes of it.

When is it being released?

[WorldSoCold]

 

No. Hinata loves him, and she will always love him. What she feels for him is positive, and it affects her in a good way, not a bad way. However turning that kind of love and admiration into romantic love, is not real. Romantic love makes the love become selfish and fixated around her and her feelings - not Naruto's. Once Hinata steps away from the romantic nature of the love she feels for Naruto, and starts seeing Naruto as a person rather than a role model, then she can she learn to selflessly love and care for him. Like I said, Hinata barely knows Naruto, but if she tries to get to know him, she'll be able to understand him more, and see him as he is. Hinata and Naruto aren't naturally compatible people, because Naruto's gonna be loud and fast, and Hinata's gonna be shy and quiet. The only little thing they have in common, is that feeling of determination, and wanting to be acknowledged - and that's what they bond on. It doesn't have to be romantic, to have the love continue to be there. The love will always be there, and if it's a platonic kind of love, than it just becomes more true.

 

If Naruto and Sakura got together, it shouldn't affect Naruto and Hinata's relationship. Their relationship is based on respect and friendship, and it can continue being like that. Hinata would accept Naruto's feelings, and she'll move on, because she always knew that a relationship between her and Naruto was farfetched, and the least she could do to be with him, is to be his good friend. And I honestly, think Hinata would be okay with just that. Hinata can find romantic love again someday, it doesn't have to be with her childhood crush, that she idolized for the longest time. And if Naruto and Sakura got together, Naruto can continue to be her role model, and his smile can continue to save her, because if he's happy, than she's happy.

 

The difference between Sakura to Sasuke and Hinata to Naruto is although both loves weren't real and were selfish, Sakura and Sasuke weren't and aren't even on good terms. Sakura's feelings for Sasuke affect her negatively, and Sasuke was always aware of her crush on him, but he just plain didn't care. Naruto however cares about these things, and would never play around with someone's feelings. He respects them, and he respects Hinata. Sasuke has little to no respect for Sakura.

 

It's not something Hinata can just realize, because it was an internal crush from far away. She doesn't know Naruto, because she can't ever find the confidence to go up to him, and get to know him. Sakura doesn't know Sasuke, because Sasuke never lets her in, and doesn't give her the time of day. Their both flawed in their own ways, but the Hinata to Naruto bond is generally more positive and has more potential to grow more strongly and positively. But the fact that they barely know each other, makes it less possible for that type of relationship to be romantic.

 

Hinata is a selfless person at heart, but when she views Naruto in a romantic way, everything else in the world disappears, and all she sees is her and Naruto being together. But once she starts interacting with Naruto and seeing him as a person, I have a feeling that her tendencies of shyness will resurface quickly, and it'll be hard for her to keep up a conversation with him, and will blush and stutter at Naruto. She can't act like herself around him, and Naruto will be oblivious all over again (since he's not very good at handling a girl's feelings).

 

I think Hinata will find her place. But I honestly don't think it has to be in a romantic relationship with Naruto.

well, i cant ignore, you got a great point here. 

i agree with everything you said, word by word.

but idk, kishi is doing a really good job to maintain his readers with questions on mind, we have a lot of theories (and we know that, the couple that makes A LOT of sense is Naruto and Sakura). Ok,but, what i just cant understand is, why make all this development to hinata?, i mean, she doesnt have much development BUT what im trying to say is that, why make look like hinata only desire is to be with naruto in a romantic way? all that you said make sense, but what does kishi planned with hinata?

Edited by WorldSoCold, 13 July 2014 - 05:23 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

When is it being released?

Different release dates. Mainly start at August 29. Mine, NYC, starts at August 30. Part of me may want to go but maybe I will witness more jeers than cheers. Louder than Brazil fans.

[Iwantbuns]

well, i cant ignore, you got a great point here. 

i agree with everything you said, word by word.

but idk, kishi is doing a really good job to maintain his readers with questions on mind, we have a lot of theories (and we know that, the couple that makes A LOT of sense is Naruto and Sakura). Ok,but, what i just cant understand is, why make all this development to hinata?, i mean, she doesnt have much development BUT what im trying to say is that, why make look like hinata only desire is to be with naruto in a romantic way? all that you said make sense, but what does kishi planned with hinata?

 

Hmm. Development. Her main goal from the beginning of the series was to improve herself and to be acknowledged. For example: her clan. But this was hard for a person like her, because she was generally a loner, and she was weak. I think although Hinata found a lot of her confidence from Naruto, there's still room for more improvement. Her character wasn't really revolving around Naruto's acknowledgement or wanting to be in a relationship with him in Part 1. In a way she wanted to earn his love, without trying to actually be a part of his life. She worked and trained hard, even if she was weak, and willed herself to get stronger for the people around her. Kind of similar to Sakura actually in that sense. However Sakura always had that determination herself, she didn't have to learn it from someone else. Hinata wanted to prove people wrong the same way Naruto did. She wanted to show that kind and caring people are capable of being strong, even if their quiet and easily forgiving. 

 

I don't know how Kishi is gonna continue developing Hinata. It may or may not include Naruto, because Naruto has actually made a very big impact on her life. He hasn't impacted her romantically, but more indirectly, in the things that he did and the way he did it. The best thing for Hinata at this point, is the fact that her role model for the longest time, has acknowledged her and finally seen her. Hinata's development isn't really relevant to the storyline, but if Kishi continues to go about it (even though there wasn't much of it) I honestly don't what he has in store for us.

Edited by Iwantbuns, 13 July 2014 - 06:21 AM.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

I don't necessarily think Hinata's goal on Naruto had anything to do with romantic acknowledgment. It had to with him acknowledging her as strong which would give her confidence to be a great ninja and maybe impress her father (I say maybe 'cause I'm not sure how much she cared about her heiress role even back then). However, I'm under the impression that something happened and now Hinata's goal is to literally be with Naruto. Hinata looked like she misinterpreted Naruto's speech about "I really like people like you!" and then when they reunited in Part 2, she said she wasn't "ready yet" and fainted because she misinterpreted Naruto asking her out on a date when he was actually trying to ask her to be their teammate to replace Sasuke.

 

Hinata doesn't seem to show any awareness of her feelings being one-sided. And, depending on your interpretation, Hinata's speeches to be with Naruto forever and "I'll walk with you" can imply she's aiming to be with him romantically. I honestly don't believe Hinata knows anything about Naruto's love for Sakura and might even believe Naruto does or possibly likes her back. Hinata's impression of Naruto seems a lot like the NH fans: they read too deep and misinterpret anything Naruto does, crossing it off as platonic and believing it's romantic.

 

I'd rather Hinata not set a goal to be with Naruto when she's just going to be disappointed, but it's true Hinata's feelings get too much emphasis and the question is why. If Hinata's goal is to be with Naruto, then does she believe she reciprocates and is going after him? Or does she just want to support him, be it as friend or lover? No matter which one it is, it's still true she has no idea Naruto doesn't like her and has feelings for Sakura. This is a problem and she needs that wake-up call fast.

[Iwantbuns]

I don't necessarily think Hinata's goal on Naruto had anything to do with romantic acknowledgment. It had to with him acknowledging her as strong which would give her confidence to be a great ninja and maybe impress her father (I say maybe 'cause I'm not sure how much she cared about her heiress role even back then). However, I'm under the impression that something happened and now Hinata's goal is to literally be with Naruto. Hinata looked like she misinterpreted Naruto's speech about "I really like people like you!" and then when they reunited in Part 2, she said she wasn't "ready yet" and fainted because she misinterpreted Naruto asking her out on a date when he was actually trying to ask her to be their teammate to replace Sasuke.

 

Hinata doesn't seem to show any awareness of her feelings being one-sided. And, depending on your interpretation, Hinata's speeches to be with Naruto forever and "I'll walk with you" can imply she's aiming to be with him romantically. I honestly don't believe Hinata knows anything about Naruto's love for Sakura and might even believe Naruto does or possibly likes her back. Hinata's impression of Naruto seems a lot like the NH fans: they read too deep and misinterpret anything Naruto does, crossing it off as platonic and believing it's romantic.

 

I'd rather Hinata not set a goal to be with Naruto when she's just going to be disappointed, but it's true Hinata's feelings get too much emphasis and the question is why. If Hinata's goal is to be with Naruto, then does she believe she reciprocates and is going after him? Or does she just want to support him, be it as friend or lover? No matter which one it is, it's still true she has no idea Naruto doesn't like her and has feelings for Sakura. This is a problem and she needs that wake-up call fast.

 

I agree with every single thing.

[JILLNYN]

Regarding Hinata, I think it is not that Kishimoto put much attention has been given the same attention with Shikamaru, as Rock Lee, as Gaara, the idea that Hinata has a lot of development and a lot of "attention" is perception on her fans, and try to impose at all costs, so has been the passion so much that her fans in their mind's been put her in the center of the universe of the manga, as they keep talking about her and because we will be opposing the fandom all the time talk about Hinata when we face debate with them has been so long and so much bombing Hinata ourselves tha we have polluted with their perception and has become in paranoia everytime that she said the same words  is the result of living a long time with comments made by fans NH or rather by Hinata fans.

If a neutral person read the manga from chapter 1 to 683 completely isolated from any external review, you will realize the real position of Hinata. That is something for Kishimoto said that Hinata is not the heroine she is Sakura and that's why Kishimoto reacted that way saying that Hinata fans are very noisy. (perceived some anger in his words)

Many years ago when asked to Kishimoto about why he did so many cases of unrequited love for many characters he merely replied that he had not noticed, but said that he did only for  that readers identify with the characters and liked .. . but "maybe" just one will be reciprocated

I know that Kishimoto said that a long time ago but has always loved drama and confuse your readers all the time.

But I think if you read manga page 1 so far and you can see a very well written story about Naruto and Sakura, everone knows that Kishmoto can do as he pleases in the next chapter but so far has shown a history incredibly developed with strong dose of reality, all this long journey has shown us that the "bonds" is not something that develops from one chapter to another, there is always a story, a past event, a bloodline, not friendships form in seconds, there is always a undertone and a strong connection, but there are bonds that are much more important than others, which also fit in the frame and harmonize it, give it a deep story and nourish with message complexity and take much longer to develop than others and those are the ones with star presence obviously related to main characters, so you can understand why Kishimoto keeps warily to the end and confuses everyone on this long road.

But you should see on their background to not only see the tree and see the whole forest.

 

 

[BlondieXPinkett]

So I was just re-watching the fight with Sasuke Vs Killer Bee, and Bee says that genjutsu doesnt affect him because he has Hachibi to interrupt his chakra flow. Can Naruto be able to go unaffected by IT because of Kurama?

[narusaku256]

So I was just re-watching the fight with Sasuke Vs Killer Bee, and Bee says that genjutsu doesnt affect him because he has Hachibi to interrupt his chakra flow. Can Naruto be able to go unaffected by IT because of Kurama?

Yeah! But what happened in reality appears to be a different case than usual. I don't really know what purpose Sasuke's susanoo served since Naruto had 9 tailed beasts guarding his chakra and yet have Sasuke save Naruto! I'd rather wait for someone to clarify this before jumping the gun that it was to give relevance to Sasuke.....

Edited by narusaku256, 13 July 2014 - 03:43 PM.

[BlondieXPinkett]

True, I guess it'd probably ruin the flow of the story if Naruto was completely resilient to IT. If Sasuke knew that Naruto could withstand IT because of the bijuu, he wouldn't have saved Kakashi and Sakura.

[TouKen4Life3g]

True, I guess it'd probably ruin the flow of the story if Naruto was completely resilient to IT. If Sasuke knew that Naruto could withstand IT because of the bijuu, he wouldn't have saved Kakashi and Sakura.

This could be it. Naruto could be a-ok but not Kakashi and Sakura, so Sasuke has to be it, regardless that he really didn't care. Like he said, his main priority is to have him alive for sake of winning.

[Gojira]

Just watched episode 249 dubbed. Good to know that they went with the original translation rather than Viz's.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Just watched episode 249 dubbed. Good to know that they went with the original translation rather than Viz's.

What is that about?

[Gojira]

What is that about?

Chapter 504.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Chapter 504.

Interesting. Thanks for letting us know.

[咲耶姫]

Just watched episode 249 dubbed. Good to know that they went with the original translation rather than Viz's.

LOL In my country they dubbed it as “Don’t fall for weird and complicated girls, choose someone who’s hot tempered like your mother” so that everyone is happybecause in one hand, Sakura is a complicated girl becuse of her love life and on another hand she's the hot tempered girl like Kushina. I don’t know where they came from with the “hot tempered”, but I like it. 

Edited by 咲耶姫, 13 July 2014 - 03:59 PM.

[redrose3443]

I seriously wonder if Kishi is gonna try to finish up the manga by this year or within January of next year. By the looks of things, the manga should stretch out until April or maybe May, considering all the things her has to resolve.

 

-Kaguya fight. What happens to Madara?( since I'm positive he's not dead.) what happens to the Edo Kages?

 

-N/S fight and redemtion( Ugh.)

 

-NS; why did Naruto fall for Saklura? How will he believe she's moved on from Sasuke? Will Sakura try to step aside for Hinata?

 

- Hinata/Lee/Karin's unrequited loves.( Mainly emphasis on Karin and Hinata.)

 

-What will the shinobi villages be like after the war?

 

Though it would not seem like a lot, for Kishi and his writing pace, this could keep Naruto going for another year.

 

Edit; I always did think that HInata's confession backfired on NH fans, because it would seem like she met Naruto first, instead of Sakura.

Edited by redrose3443, 13 July 2014 - 04:02 PM.

[narusaku256]

I seriously wonder if Kishi is gonna try to finish up the manga by this year or within January of next year. By the looks of things, the manga should stretch out until April or maybe May, considering all the things her has to resolve.
 
-Kaguya fight. What happens to Madara?( since I'm positive he's not dead.) what happens to the Edo Kages?
 
-N/S fight and redemtion( Ugh.)
 
-NS; why did Naruto fall for Saklura? How will he believe she's moved on from Sasuke? Will Sakura try to step aside for Hinata?
 
- Hinata/Lee/Karin's unrequited loves.( Mainly emphasis on Karin and Hinata.)
 
-What will the shinobi villages be like after the war?
 
Though it would not seem like a lot, for Kishi and his writing pace, this could keep Naruto going for another year.
 
Edit; I always did think that HInata's confession backfired on NH fans, because it would seem like she met Naruto first, instead of Sakura.

I'll answer two of em!

-Kaguya fight....It seems like he is gonna regenerate from his other half and help them fighting Kaguya and....he's going to get a redemption as well....and be back to being the old Madara that Hashirama saw!

-Valley of the end fight needs to be settled. Back then, Naruto went for Sasuke, with an intent to remove his forehead protector and only this, made Sasuke push himself so hard! I dunno what will happen to him if Naruto goes with an intent to kill!

-While why Naruto fell for Sakura is known....how she moved on/will move on from Sasuke is interesting to watch. Though the drama has been stretched out for too long, it makes people curious. Hinata is gonna have one more moment with Naruto at the end and most probably NH and NS will both be resolved at the same time! He will HAVE to choose between Sakura and Hinata and tell them face on! No ambiguity and no diplomacy!

Edited by narusaku256, 13 July 2014 - 04:10 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

LOL In my country they dubbed it as “Don’t fall for weird and complicated girls, choose someone who’s hot tempered like your mother” so that everyone is happybecause in one hand, Sakura is a complicated girl becuse of her love life and on another hand she's the hot tempered girl like Kushina. I don’t know where they came from with the “hot tempered”, but I like it. 

Lol. Damn. Making sure the world gets it. I get it! XD

 

I seriously wonder if Kishi is gonna try to finish up the manga by this year or within January of next year. By the looks of things, the manga should stretch out until April or maybe May, considering all the things her has to resolve.

 

-Kaguya fight. What happens to Madara?( since I'm positive he's not dead.) what happens to the Edo Kages?

 

-N/S fight and redemtion( Ugh.)

 

-NS; why did Naruto fall for Saklura? How will he believe she's moved on from Sasuke? Will Sakura try to step aside for Hinata?

 

- Hinata/Lee/Karin's unrequited loves.( Mainly emphasis on Karin and Hinata.)

 

-What will the shinobi villages be like after the war?

 

Though it would not seem like a lot, for Kishi and his writing pace, this could keep Naruto going for another year.

 

Edit; I always did think that HInata's confession backfired on NH fans, because it would seem like she met Naruto first, instead of Sakura.

I feel like it's more done for Hinata and Lee. Karin seems to be left out with others for maybe it's a different story. I wouldn't say place her on a pedestal, but I think Kishi want to please those two in a world that won't be in reality. The dream sequences did seem very impossible, so it was a perfect chance.

[narusaku256]

Lol. Damn. Making sure the world gets it. I get it! XD
 
I feel like it's more done for Hinata and Lee. Karin seems to be left out with others for maybe it's a different story. I wouldn't say place her on a pedestal, but I think Kishi want to please those two in a world that won't be in reality. The dream sequences did seem very impossible, so it was a perfect chance.

Then why throw hints of SK?