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[Liu bie]

Now I am  thinking Naruto and Sakura should have talked(something that a Naruto game had but the manga didn't have) after the Sakura's Confession to Naruto maybe things would change that time.

[TheFirstEvil100]

maybe he was shocked and trying to stay calm? and if you think he doesn't care why did he care about her being put in the genjutsu? think about it, naruto had it stuck in his mine sakura would always love sasuke and that her and sasuke would be happy together, then sasuke then admits he doesn't feel that way and puts her in a genjutsu. so its simple, he was quiet because he was shocked, if you looked at some of his panels he was staring and even surprised

And what about Naruto getting over Sasuke, like you and James Said everyone knows how much or a di** Sasuke is but Naruto, who just forces everyone to believe in what he wants to,

 

since you both said this is where he will wise up.

[Otaru]

 

It's not self-destructive. Naruto's feelings for Sasuke are exactly the same, if not worse, and he is the hero of this manga.

 

 

 

Oh wait for it, its coming.

 

 

I will answer your questions.

 

Sakura has to keep loving Sasuke because that's their original bond, much like Naruto thinks that Sasuke is his best friend, yet we all know that his real best friend is Gaara or even Shikamaru. It doesn't matter if four years have passed and a lot of things happened. Naruto said because Sasuke was his friend. Sakura said because she loves him.

 

Sakura cannot have shallow feelings at this point, hell she couldn't have them for the majority of part 2. If that was true, then Sakura would be a moron and Naruto would look like no medal, let alone silver medal. He couldn't win Sakura even though her feelings were shallow. Plus, Naruto always worked hard at things. How bad would it made him look, if Sakura's feelings were that easy to gain and yet he failed?

 

I agree the choice is easy, but the choice should only happen once they are on equal grounds, otherwise Naruto didn't really win her by being a nice guy, but because Sasuke was a bad guy. Sasuke doesn't hate Sakura, he never said so, and he didn't begin in this chapter. Remember how Sasuke said Sakura was a comrade once, how he's always lying about his intentions, and how Itachi treated him like trash even though he was fond of him.

 

You're asking these questions, but I already answered them.

 

 

 

A lot did. However, you will soon have to accept it.

 

I remember I was happy with your posts back then because I was thinking the same. I was thinking too that Sakura will 'choose' Naruto when Sasuke will be back and be a good guy again. Right now your post is braining me up because I kind of forgot to think about that aspect right now after this disgraceful chapter. I think that if we don't forget to look through this prism while reading this chapter, then it's becoming more clear from the author's point. Also, what KnS said is helping me to analyse what Kishimoto is doing right now. Maybe he really want her to be completely broken. This time, Sasuke "killed" her. He went through her heart. It's very symbolic. He destroyed her heart. I don't think she's still under genjutsu, I think she just passed out after it. But maybe I'm wrong... Maybe she will be different when she will wake up, and maybe Kishimoto will make a link with her and with the fodders that are in IT, dreaming. I think they will be different when they will wake up. I think they will learn from their dreams.

Maybe Sakura will learn from this last rejection of Sasuke. Maybe she will learn with the "help" of this violent genjutsu.

Edited by Otaru, 27 September 2014 - 11:10 PM.

[Hiraishin]

Now I am  thinking Naruto and Sakura should have talked(something that a Naruto game had but the manga didn't have) after the Sakura's Confession to Naruto maybe things would change that time.

What happened in the naruto game?

[六道仙人]

Am I the only one who's concerned about how the faq they got to the valley so fast

 

The "Shumatsu no tani" lies on the border between the Land of Fire and the Land of Sound.

And since they were fighting at the point where the Shinjuu (The holy tree) was located more or less in the land of Rain...

You can see the map here for a clear pov...

 

[Atheck]

Am I the only one who's concerned about how the faq they got to the valley so fast

 

No, but I've learned to take it as it comes. This manga is riddled with inexplicable feats. Remember how Sasuke and Juugo somehow outpaced the Edo Hokages in traveling from the centre of Konoha to the distant war-torn battlefield in the Land of Lightning? Tobirama alluded to the fact that they - that is to say the Hokages - were all using Shunshin when complimenting Minato's speed. It makes even less sense when you factor in Hiruzen's ability to keep up with Tobirama despite his lacklustre speed stat. 

[NS4Life]

So in kishi's eyes, only sasuke being good can naruto and sakura love each other? This is going to happen in one day (manga) and she couldn't get over him over all these years?

Kishi is a coward. He has to wait until the very end of the manga to have sakura to not love sasuke in one day.

I can't believe this is over before the movie. What rush job.

I am so disappointed.

[Khaleesi]

Nooooooooooooo!!!! But you are to old to marry another man   Still wont give up on you  .

 

You are doing a list of scenarios for NS now is it long ?

(btw, http://motherofdrago...ragnar-wins-the )

I'm younger enough 

 

Well, i was doing a LAP. But explaining everything, character for character...Sakura alone has 3 pages...I'm writing about Sasuke now...Well, i won't post it here, but i can post that part about the list of scenarios,...i guess.

Edited by theunburnt, 27 September 2014 - 10:06 PM.

[Shadow1275]

can someone lists some ways Sakura can be redeemed in this.....like some scenario's???

 

I really need some right about now.....cause I don't know how this can get better....

The best case scenario is if she says that she loved Sasuke because of the forehead scene. Than it becomes clear that in reality it was Naruto she loved not Sasuke and that her love for Sasuke was misguided and false. Perhaps she thought that he had a good side to him bc she felt Naruto's warmth in his chakra or Naruto's kindness when he masqueraded as Sasuke. That might redeem her character to an extent but in reality that can only go so far. She never should have fallen in love with Sasuke to begin with and she should have gotten over him a long time ago.

[James S Cassidy]

Am I the only one who's concerned about how the faq they got to the valley so fast

I would be, but then again I am used to Shonen manga with these "get to places fast in what seems like seconds." Dragonball Z did it constantly with this weird time dilation that makes no sense. I have learned to just ignore it.

 

And what about Naruto getting over Sasuke, like you and James Said everyone knows how much or a di** Sasuke is but Naruto, who just forces everyone to believe in what he wants to,

 

since you both said this is where he will wise up.

That...is the right question. Think about it. How can Naruto do anything if he can't get over Sasuke and that failure he sees on himself? What is the problem that needs to be solved for Naruto's case? The answer might just be what the final manga chapters are going to be.

 

you lack experience, my young padawan

After series like Dragonball Z which after the Frieza Saga made little to no sense, Guren Lagann's horrible ending that didn't match the series at hand, the entire series of Yu-Gi-Oh, the ending to Reborn!, Ichigo's "I am a little bit of everything" plot point, One Piece (nuff said), and the queen of  it all Erza from Fairy Tale....this makes about as much sense as anything else.

[Otaru]

Talked to my SasuSaku friend this afternoon. She really amaze me for staying positive for his ship. She also was pissed at Kishi on how he portrayed Sakura like me which is nice. Although I don't agree to what she said, she still have that positive outlook in his ship. I hope we can also be like this. Let's stay positive guys. They may be illogical in their reasoning but they are still faithful to their otp. 

 

What she reasoned is something like this if you wanted to know. Feel free to give your opinions but please don't bash her. This is something SS related. If you don't want to read then do not do so. 

Pro SS chapter

Sasuke never hate Sakura. He just feels that he doesn't deserve her love so he did that crap to Sakura. He wanted Sakura to forget about his love to him because it will only hurt her. He doesn't deserve a kind-hearted girl like Sakura. He did it because he loves her. when Sasuke said "You are annoying" he is actually sad if you look at his eyebrow. He doesn't want to say that but he must. He also knocked her out unconsciously because she'll just get in the fight and she'll get hurt. So basically this chapter tells that Sasuke doesn't deserve Sakura and he doesn't want to hurt her.

 

This may sound ridiculous and in denial but I just love their determination. I know SS is dead and they should not be enjoying this ship but they did. I want this kind of determination to you NS fans. Of course not in being denial and illogical but being faithful to our ship. That kind of determination. SS is much worse than us but they are still holding their banners high. So please be positive and believe in NS. 

 

 

 

I agree with what she said in some manner. I also found Sasuke kind of touched or sad when he was saying to Sakura she's annoying. I also think he knocked her out because he doesn't want her to get hurt through the fight. I also think Sasuke thinks he doesn't deserve her love. Just like Kakashi felt about Rin.

[ultranx]

And what about Naruto getting over Sasuke, like you and James Said everyone knows how much or a di** Sasuke is but Naruto, who just forces everyone to believe in what he wants to,

 

since you both said this is where he will wise up.

well its obvious he won't get over sasuke, if the last movie is canon then we should know this already 0.0 and james' comment just now explains my thoughts exactly. you're the one that isn't getting it, this is a shonen manga, i have watched shonen anime since i was 5, all my life and predicted them, the couples, the events, everything.naruto is a shonen manga and the most predictable of them all, even joke predictions come true, even ones that don't make sense, heck at first people were mad about tobi being obito and it made about as much sense to them as this idea and whereas they were surprised the minority, which is what me and james are in this case, predicted it xD

Edited by ultranx, 27 September 2014 - 10:23 PM.

[Liu bie]

What happened in the naruto game?

They had a conversation  after the summit of the Kages  no so deep  but I think if the manga could have that it would important..

 

Sakura thanked Naruto and that she once again has  hope that one day T7 will be together. Something in the manga she kept it herself.

[Kyaerai]

The "Shumatsu no tani" lies on the border between the Land of Fire and the Land of Sound.
And since they were fighting at the point where the Shinjuu (The holy tree) was located more or less in the land of Rain...
You can see the map here for a clear pov...
 

That is still quite the distance... XD
It's only slightly less than from Konoha to Suna and if I remember correctly that trip took 3 days...

[TheFirstEvil100]

So in kishi's eyes, only sasuke being good can naruto and sakura love each other? This is going to happen in one day (manga) and she couldn't get over him over all these years?

Kishi is a coward. He has to wait until the very end of the manga to have sakura to not love sasuke in one day.

I can't believe this is over before the movie. What rush job.

I am so disappointed.

Well its kishi despite him saying how bad SasuSaku is.

[Shadow1275]

That is still quite the distance... XD
It's only slightly less than from Konoha to Suna and if I remember correctly that trip took 3 days...

It's simple they were Traveling at the speed of Plot

[ultranx]

That is still quite the distance... XD
It's only slightly less than from Konoha to Suna and if I remember correctly that trip took 3 days...

naruto moves as fast as his dad now, maybe faster, sasuke maybe got a speed buff as one of the sage powers. so factor that in

Edited by ultranx, 27 September 2014 - 10:26 PM.

[TheFirstEvil100]

That...is the right question. Think about it. How can Naruto do anything if he can't get over Sasuke and that failure he sees on himself? What is the problem that needs to be solved for Naruto's case? The answer might just be what the final manga chapters are going to be.

I wish I knew that I just feel so down man, very very down right now. To me I fear Sakura will never mean that much to him than Sasuke does and sadly if he does marry Sakura he will be Sasuke before her and before their kids. I mean in real life and in other fiction even the people put their family first,

 

well its obvious he won't get over Sasuke, if the last movie is canon then we should know this already 0.0

That is sadly true

[六道仙人]

 

 

I agree with what she said in some manner. I also found Sasuke kind of touched or sad when he was saying to Sakura she's annoying. I also think he knocked her out because he doesn't want her to get hurt through the fight. I also think Sasuke thinks he doesn't deserve her love. Just like Kakashi felt about Rin.

 

I am sorry but I must to quote a beautiful quote I read on ASS FC from NF.

 

 

Fact #9798097 SS forgets about the manga this week: Genjutsu, while an illusion, is capable of severe psychological trauma as a result of violent physical and or traumatic imagery that feels very real to the victim.

Examples include:

Orochimaru casting a particularly violent one on Sasuke/Sakura in the FoD. Sakura remained conscious but was reduced to a shaken, terrified mess unable to move. Sasuke had to muster the willpower to physically stab himself to keep from ending up the same.

Itachi casting tsukuyomi on Kakashi, in a matter of secs he experienced being tortured for 72 hours and became comatose right after.

Itachi casting tsukuyomi on Sasuke, making him relive their clans murder. He became comatose right after.

None of them had a single physical wound on their body.

All of them ended up physically affected by the illusions anyway.

Taking Sakura out like that was not an act of mercy. It was cruel, it was violent and it's exactly the kind of thing SS holds dear and has romanticized the kitten out of *vomits*

[Kyaerai]

It's simple they were Traveling at the speed of Plot

Well however the heck they got there, shiz is about to go down

Edited by Raikidori, 27 September 2014 - 10:53 PM.