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[questdrivencollie]

i know sandra (asker) has been waiting for thesage's (answerer) message for several months already.. so far she haven't gotten any..

 

btw are these gifs from a new op?

Could be I guess, but I don't see what it'd have to do with upcoming episodes. (OPs usually relate to the actual plot, at least that's my understanding.) From the upcoming game, maybe?

Edited by questdrivencollie, 10 July 2014 - 05:36 PM.

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Oh r/Naruto, the hate is always strong in that sub

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She's still in love with him because she allowed her happiness to become dependent on another individual. Sakura is a classic example of the popular girl who thinks there's more to her than there actually is. That's not to say there's nothing to her, quite the opposite, but Sasuke's lack of a response to her triggered her obvious desire for attention as the top b*tch of the class. She was attracted to him, of course, and not forward enough to do really do anything about it, and that morphed into obsession. Couple that with life or death scenarios, constantly being in contact with each other, and Sasuke actually growing as a person while they were a team, and it's easy to see why she fell in love with him. What's not easy to see, due to the terrible job that has been done with her as a character, is that she sat back and watched as Naruto grew faster than anyone thought possible, and Sasuke became more and more broken as a result of both Naruto's ascension and his circumstances. Sakura misunderstood their progress and her own lack of progress, and tied Sasuke's decision to leave the village to her lack of progress. Her emotions are twisted into her reasons for training under Tsunade and she's become unable to resolve them because they're her entire reason for being where she is. This would be more obvious if she had actual character growth instead of just dancing the robot from character point to character point, and going years of chapters between actually having an impact on the story.

 

Now, if we're looking for a reason as to why she's still in love with him outside the narrative, well, I have an answer for that too. I don't recall which movie, as I don't bother with the anime or the OVA movies... might be the Road to Ninja one, dunno, but from what people have told me there's one where she learns firsthand how miserable Naruto's existence is. How lonely he is, how he has very few people to turn to emotionally, how miserable he truly is deep down. What does she do? She makes a joke, then runs off happily with her parents. Doesn't think "Gee, maybe I should go hang out with him sometime, he's my friend.", just goes on about her business. This is why Sakura is still in love with Sasuke, as Kishimoto seems to be obsessed with a state of static emotions.

 

Characters, save for Naruto, Sasuke, Neji, Lee and Hinata, do not fluidly develop as character. For her part things happen to Sakura, and she remains the same. She should develop as a character, and in a few cases she does, but for the most part that happens off screen. After Sasuke nearly kills her after the Kage Summit, we don't see the aftermath. When she sees Hinata's love for Naruto result in a near death on Hinata's part, she doesn't encourage Naruto or Hinata, she just grumbles about Hinata's sacrifice, and then vanishes until she's needed again. Sakura's state changes off screen if it changes at all, and since we can go months without seeing her, and years without her doing anything of value, we're left with a character who has not had enough moments to realistically develop past her emotional baggage.

 

tldr; Her emotions are tied up in her reasons to grow as a ninja, and she doesn't really grow as a person as a result of a misunderstanding of her relationships with Sasuke and Naruto. Also, Kishi has selective stupidity when it comes to character development.

Edited by TheMagicConch, 10 July 2014 - 05:44 PM.

[narusaku256]

That beautiful pink hair and those mesmerizing pair of green eyes

[Sakura~]

Ok so I rewatched the pain arc. I ask my self why is Kishi always puts Hinata in a situation where she tries hard to help Naruto and in the end was willing to give her life for him. She is a side character yet she still get a lot of focus. Hinata risked her life to try and save Naruto against Pain while Sakura the heroine just cried. That really pissed me off.

Edited by Sakura~, 10 July 2014 - 05:52 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Ok so I rewatched the pain arc. I ask my self why is Kishi always puts Hinata in a situation where she tries hard to help Naruto and in the end was willing to give her life for him. She is a side character yet she still get a lot of focus. Hinata risked her life to try and save Naruto against Pain while Sakura the herione just cried. That really pissed me off.

Plot device/development. The whole arc revolves on how Naruto means to people, every single one of them. It ended with Team 7 getting their last words/actions along with Iruka doing that smile. Even so, that hug killed it because well, you should know why. Plus you made it sound like Hinata beat the hell out of Pain. It was the only time she can fit in along with being a plot device for Kuruma. So yeah...

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Ok so I rewatched the pain arc. I ask my self why is Kishi always puts Hinata in a situation where she tries hard to help Naruto and in the end was willing to give her life for him. She is a side character yet she still get a lot of focus. Hinata risked her life to try and save Naruto against Pain while Sakura the heroine just cried. That really pissed me off.

Hinata got soloed by Pain in seconds in the manga 

The anime made it to be such a huge deal for no reason 

[TouKen4Life3g]

Hinata got soloed by Pain in seconds in the manga 
The anime made it to be such a huge deal for no reason 

Oh she said she rewatched it. You do know that was complete filler, right?

[Hanabi]

Ok so I rewatched the pain arc. I ask my self why is Kishi always puts Hinata in a situation where she tries hard to help Naruto and in the end was willing to give her life for him. She is a side character yet she still get a lot of focus. Hinata risked her life to try and save Naruto against Pain while Sakura just cried. That really pissed me off.

'sakura just cried'

 

not like she casually KO a pain summon for a child and grandma, saved as many people as she can at the hospital, evacuate konoha civilians after the nine tails explosion, and saved hinata.

 

but those doesn't matter because a 'i love you' is an instant heroine upgrade

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Oh she said she rewatched it. You do know that was complete filler, right?

Yea I know, I didn't read the manga at that time so I thought it was canon.

When I found out it was filler, it was probably the last time I saw the anime. I don't like when the anime does something to make it seem as if it were canon 

[咲耶姫]

i know sandra (asker) has been waiting for thesage's (answerer) message for several months already.. so far she haven't gotten any..

 

btw are these gifs from a new op?

It is from the game Naruto Shippuden: Dragon Blade Chronicles that has been released some years ago. 

Edited by 咲耶姫, 10 July 2014 - 06:03 PM.

[Sakura~]

My point is that Sakura should be the one sacrificing herself for Naruto not Hinata.

[TouKen4Life3g]

My point is that Sakura should be the one sacrificing herself for Naruto not Hinata.

Eh, no. Not like that. If Hinata said it was selfish, best not to do that.

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My point is that Sakura should be the one sacrificing herself for Naruto not Hinata.

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She wasn't trying to sacrifice herself for him

She admitted she only went over to him so she dies along said with him. Her goal was for her to say she loved him and then die along side with him. 

Edited by TheMagicConch, 10 July 2014 - 06:05 PM.

[Sakura~]

Anyways at least we have Sakura saving Naruto mouth to mouth lol.

[Hanabi]

My point is that Sakura should be the one sacrificing herself for Naruto not Hinata.

 

she didn't have byakugan to know naruto was in trouble, she even sensed naruto's bijuu mode before that byakugan fodder beside her told her hinata fell and naruto turned six-tails. plus,she was beside the fallen tsunade (in gamakichi's arms)

 

anyway her feelings for naruto are just as strong, if not stronger than hinata's (imo). her confession in the snow summit was her thinking for his feelings (instead of hinata thinking of her own feelings) and she attempted to kill sasuke and take off the 'promise of a lifetime' burden off naruto's shoulder.

Edited by Hanabi, 10 July 2014 - 06:17 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yea I know, I didn't read the manga at that time so I thought it was canon.
When I found out it was filler, it was probably the last time I saw the anime. I don't like when the anime does something to make it seem as if it were canon 

I know. It really was mind boggling that they would do that. I mean wow. It made it worse when the next episode is Looney Tunes remake.

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She wasn't trying to sacrifice herself for him
She admitted she only went over to him so she dies along said with him. Her goal was for her to say she loved him and then die along side with him. 

Actually, she just want to tell him I guess. I don't recall her saying let's die together. Again, go back to the arc, you'll notice that the whole theme was to show how many of them means to Naruto. Make sense when you see Sakura being the one to call her shiny knight.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Anyways at least we have Sakura saving Naruto mouth to mouth lol.

That's the spirit!

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I know. It really was mind boggling that they would do that. I mean wow. It made it worse when the next episode is Looney Tunes remake.

Actually, she just want to tell him I guess. I don't recall her saying let's die together. Again, go back to the arc, you'll notice that the whole theme was to show how many of them means to Naruto. Make sense when you see Sakura being the one to call her shiny knight.

lol looney tunes remake

I'll go check it out later, I'm pretty certain she just wanted to die along side with him. But I could be wrong 

[六道仙人]

a new theory from you know who... Since Sasuke-kun is in a desert place, he will be unconscious within a few of time due to the intense heat of the place... he will even die from thrist. So Sakura will arive in the place, she will make a CPR to restore him and use her saliva for quenching his thirst...

[TouKen4Life3g]

a new theory from you know who... Since Sasuke-kun is in a desert place, he will be unconscious within a few of time due to the intense heat of the place... he will even die from thrist. So Sakura will arive in the place, she will make a CPR to restore him and use her saliva for quenching his thirst...

Well if Drake from Uncharted 3 survived it, don't see how an Uchiha wouldn't. In fact, same goes to sand village. Lol.