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Posted 10 July 2014 - 12:42 AM

That's the point. Sasuke does not care about romance. Sasuke has not been shown on panel to know that Naruto has feelings for Sakura, and if he did he wouldn't pay it any attention.

 

I never said he did. But just because Sasuke hasn't been shown to know that Naruto has feelings for Sakura, doesn't mean he doesn't know. In fact, I'm pretty sure he's fully aware of the love triangle that Team 7 has. He doesn't get involved with it because he just plain doesn't care. 

 

Sasuke knows Naruto has feelings for Sakura. Naruto's made it clear since day one. Just like Sasuke knows Sakura has feelings for him. It's not a surprise to him. He's not dumb. If Naruto and Sakura happened to hook up one day, he wouldn't care, but he wouldn't be surprised. Why? Because he knows Naruto loves Sakura, and that Sakura is fond of Naruto (much more than she is with him actually, since Sasuke shuns her all the time). Sasuke knows that he's a jerk to Sakura, and he knows that Naruto's there to make her feel better.

 

Sasuke knows he has this affect on Naruto and Sakura, but he doesn't care. He's a d**k like that.

 

I'm not saying he's supporting NaruSaku or something, I'm saying he's not gonna even bother with it. It won't affect him at all.


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Why do people NOT ship these two? I just don't get it.

Probably cause they hate Sakura. When she's probably the most developed female character in the whole show.

I respect Hinata, but Sakura deserves some too.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 12:49 AM

Of the ones I mentioned, Shikamaru, Shizune, and Jiraiya were shown on panel, Shikimaru and Shizune were there for the talk with Sai (Shikamaru was eavesdropping) and Jiraiya knew back in part one during the summoning training. The rest I mentioned were never shown, but Kakashi definitely knows, being the guys teacher, and it's logical that Yamato knows. Sasuke knows as well lol

I think the Cleveland thing would be interesting, but I really wanna see Lebron and Melo, I don't care where they end up, as long as they're playing together.

Shikamaru? He came in after the chapter when Sai announced Naruto loves her. He only heard the part in the very next chapter regarding Naruto carrying a burden.

 

Shizune? Good catch! I completely forgot about that. She does in fact know that Naruto loves Sakura.

 

Jiraiya? I don't remember there ever being a scene during Naruto's training where he brought up Sakura or Naruto's love life. If I'm wrong, please correct me.

 

Kakashi? Funny thing is, he's only been shown to elaborate on Sakura's love, not Naruto. But it is possible.

 

Yamato? Same as kakashi. But again, still possible. 

 

Sasuke? Possible. But the things that Sasuke pays attention to is very exclusive. Guy doesn't care much about anything these days.

 

The reason why Sai asked Naruto if he loves Sakura is because he needed a clear cut answer from Naruto, else it would have been weird to announce out loud to Sakura that Naruto loves her.

 

The Cleveland would be very interesting, especially to espn. They'll make tons of money off of Lebron coming back home. That's why they have a bunch of false reports saying that it's 86% that Lebron goes back to cavs. ugh


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 12:52 AM

jiraiya more than likely knows atleast by 245, he did say Naruto was stupid for missing his chance when Sakura was flirting with him.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 01:11 AM

Sometimes i really have questions about if naruto will end up with sakura or hinata, you know, i dont like hinata, i think sakura is best in all ways to naruto, but things like: why does kishi created a character like hinata? and why does he make all this scenario to we be in doubt about who will end up with naruto?

You know, this type of manga isnt about romance and all, but, kishi is a genious lol, we have so many facts about Sakura and hinata (just kidding, we only know her obsession with naruto) , i mean, all the things that make logic come from sakura, you know, naruto and sakura make a lot of sense if they end up together, and the facts confirm that.

Well, what im trying to say, is that is so logical by analysis that naruto and sakura will end up together, so whats the plan that kishi have about hinata? because ive seen a lot of NaruHina fans saying about so many facts that just dont make sense, they will not be together, we all know that (naruto and hinata).

I mean, the develop to hinata is only to recognize that se cant be with naruto and start look at her clan and stuff?

Here in brazil a lot of people love NaruHina and defend them with their lives, and i rarely could find somewhere people like NaruSaku to read about, lol, when i find this place i was very happy. NaruHina just dont make sense, why do people like them? lol

 


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 01:15 AM

NS isn't just a certainty its painfully obvious at this point.

 

Kishi flat out told us in the manga when he had Kushina tell Naruto to find someone like his mother, 631 came around as oppose to asking Hinata or any other girl around Minato asked Sakura if she was Naruto's gf to which he said "sort of" and she didn't deny like she did at the beginning of the series, Minato then remarks that she reminds him of Kushina and then proceeds to give NS his blessing "Be Gentle with my son/Take good care of my son"

 

Kishi confirmed that Naruto will have a son by the end so we know its not going to be open-ended and in one of the NS events he heavily implied that Naruto will marry Sakura "If my wife married someone like me then Naruto will probably end up marrying..."

 

Then you have the RTN movie where people like Minato already consider NS canon and Sakura says that she was on a long date with Naruto in front of her parents. Kishi saying Sakura's confession was honest etc.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 01:15 AM

I never said he did. But just because Sasuke hasn't been shown to know that Naruto has feelings for Sakura, doesn't mean he doesn't know. In fact, I'm pretty sure he's fully aware of the love triangle that Team 7 has. He doesn't get involved with it because he just plain doesn't care.

 
 
You're basing this off of your gut feeling. I'm not ruling out the possibility of Sasuke knowing, but it hasn't been shown like the others. I'm going by what the manga has explicitly shown.
 

Sasuke knows Naruto has feelings for Sakura. Naruto's made it clear since day one


Evidence? Again, this is your gut feeling speaking.
 

Just like Sasuke knows Sakura has feelings for him.


Because there are actual panels that support what you're saying. She did flat out confess to him after all.
 

It's not a surprise to him.


It won't be because he wouldn't care enough to be surprised.
 

He's not dumb.


Of course not. Just because he doesn't know wouldn't mean he's dumb. It would just mean he doesn't care enough to notice.
 

If Naruto and Sakura happened to hook up one day, he wouldn't care, but he wouldn't be surprised. Why? Because he knows Naruto loves Sakura, and that Sakura is fond of Naruto (much more than she is with him actually, since Sasuke shuns her all the time). Sasuke knows that he's a jerk to Sakura, and he knows that Naruto's there to make her feel better.
 
Sasuke knows he has this affect on Naruto and Sakura, but he doesn't care. He's a d**k like that.


All I keep seeing is "he knows, he knows, he knows". Would it be too hard to give me a panel that explicitly shows Sasuke knowing about Naruto's love for Sakura.
 

I'm not saying he's supporting NaruSaku or something, I'm saying he's not gonna even bother with it. It won't affect him at all.


I know what you mean. But still, I don't think he gives a crap about Naruto's love life to even acknowledge it.

 

jiraiya more than likely knows atleast by 245, he did say Naruto was stupid for missing his chance when Sakura was flirting with him.


Good point. But he said he doesn't understand a woman's mind. That's generally speaking, especially since he knows Naruto is a pervert just like him. But you could be right.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 01:41 AM

Probably, though Kishi's intentions keep kittening changing on what the confession really meant from Sakura's POV so who knows what the kitten he's up to with this. One one hand  the context could go either way on whether it was truthful or not, on another Kishi says it was truthful on another hand the KB says it wasn't, on anoth Kishi mentions that alot of the time people miss the context of what he's trying to write which makes it seem like he's referencing a couple of moments (469, 540) on another his stance on where she stands keeps changing. Its confusing so trying to see how this affected characters who viewed this scenario is just as hard to tell. We can tell that from the confession and from the dream chapter, Lee possibly took that confession seriously hence why he's standing over a defeated Naruto with Sakura swooning over him. Kiba probably knows Sakura likes Naruto from 469 but he probably doesn't know where Naruto stands.

  
I figure that Kiba and Lee know based on Sakura wouldn't just say that she loves Naruto out of the blue, and they knew her actual motive, so it wouldn't be hard to put two and two together...but it is Kiba...

Shikamaru? He came in after the chapter when Sai announced Naruto loves her. He only heard the part in the very next chapter regarding Naruto carrying a burden.
 
Shizune? Good catch! I completely forgot about that. She does in fact know that Naruto loves Sakura.
 
Jiraiya? I don't remember there ever being a scene during Naruto's training where he brought up Sakura or Naruto's love life. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
 
Kakashi? Funny thing is, he's only been shown to elaborate on Sakura's love, not Naruto. But it is possible.
 
Yamato? Same as kakashi. But again, still possible. 
 
Sasuke? Possible. But the things that Sasuke pays attention to is very exclusive. Guy doesn't care much about anything these days.
 
The reason why Sai asked Naruto if he loves Sakura is because he needed a clear cut answer from Naruto, else it would have been weird to announce out loud to Sakura that Naruto loves her.
 
The Cleveland would be very interesting, especially to espn. They'll make tons of money off of Lebron coming back home. That's why they have a bunch of false reports saying that it's 86% that Lebron goes back to cavs. ugh

I was under the impression that Shikimaru heard the whole thing and just decided to come in later. However, even if he only heard the last part before he came in, Sakura ended the conversation by saying to Shikamaru to leave Naruto to her, because "he's the fool who fell in love with me, so I'll be the one to free him" or something like that.

Jiraiya asked Naruto if there was any "special girl" for Naruto that he wanted to say goodbye to and get a hug from before pushing Naruto into the ravine where he would summon Gamabunta.

Lol ESPN makes enough money be mentiong Levron, regardless of where he plays.

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 01:48 AM

Argentina freaking WON and its in the finals and so will NS just like I predicted all according to plan :hehehe:  

Well, that's one way to interpret it. Lol.



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Posted 10 July 2014 - 02:04 AM

  
I figure that Kiba and Lee know based on Sakura wouldn't just say that she loves Naruto out of the blue, and they knew her actual motive, so it wouldn't be hard to put two and two together...but it is Kiba...
I was under the impression that Shikimaru heard the whole thing and just decided to come in later. However, even if he only heard the last part before he came in, Sakura ended the conversation by saying to Shikamaru to leave Naruto to her, because "he's the fool who fell in love with me, so I'll be the one to free him" or something like that.

Jiraiya asked Naruto if there was any "special girl" for Naruto that he wanted to say goodbye to and get a hug from before pushing Naruto into the ravine where he would summon Gamabunta.

Lol ESPN makes enough money be mentiong Levron, regardless of where he plays.

Oh yeah! You're so right, Shikamarua does know. And I think Jiraiya asking Naruto that question was filler. He did push him off, but he said something entirely different in that chapter. But as I already told Pepsi, you're probably right about him knowing.

 

I can't stand ESPN. They love to hate lebron, but worship him when it's convenient. Like how they're doing right now.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 02:24 AM

Oh yeah! You're so right, Shikamarua does know. And I think Jiraiya asking Naruto that question was filler. He did push him off, but he said something entirely different in that chapter. But as I already told Pepsi, you're probably right about him knowing.
 
I can't stand ESPN. They love to hate lebron, but worship him when it's convenient. Like how they're doing right now.


You might be right about that Jman scene being filler, I'm not sure, I didn't read the manga back then lol

I still remember ESPN after the 2011 finals and how they crushed Lebron. I still cringe sometimes.

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 02:31 AM

@luffyq1

 

You didn't have to dissect my whole comment... 

 

But why would he not know? I can't point out any straight out "evidence" but he's been a part of Team 7 for a long while, and he's grew a bond with them. He probably knows these two pretty well, because he's spent time with them, he's trained with them, he hung out with them, he went on missions with them. Team 7 become an important part of his life, because he felt that feeling of friendship and companionship, that feeling of caring for people. And from that moment on Team 7 made an impact on him. So knowing that, he would be aware of the love triangle. I'm not saying he acknowledges it. Sakura asks out Sasuke, Sasuke doesn't bother - Naruto goes straight to asking Sakura out, and Sakura doesn't bother. 

 

Sakura goes to sit next to Sasuke, Naruto ends up glaring at him. Sasuke treats Sakura badly, and Naruto immediately reacts. He's there through all of this. Forget the acknowledgment for a second. He doesn't have to acknowledge or care about them to know that Naruto's feelings for Sakura exist. But of course I can't completely prove this, but I don't see why he wouldn't know.


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Why do people NOT ship these two? I just don't get it.

Probably cause they hate Sakura. When she's probably the most developed female character in the whole show.

I respect Hinata, but Sakura deserves some too.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 02:35 AM

So at what point do you guys think Sakura decided to stop pursuing a relationship with Sasuke? (Not fall out of love but just stop pursuing him romantically)

 

My guess is probably around the beginning of part 2 everything around that point started to revolve around Team 7 rather than just Sasuke.

 

On a seperate note I'm kicking myself here in frustration because I just realized a friend of a friend of mine was interviewed by Kishi himself (he was a producer on TASM2) If I knew about it ahead of time I could have asked him to ask Kishi about some of the confusing kitten after the pain arc. Off the record ofcourse.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 02:40 AM

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I agree with you. I believe sasuke know that naruto love sakura.
He just doesn't bring it because it doesn't matter for him.
Just like kakashi when rin confess to him only to rebuff by saying obito love her and he doesn't her yada yada.

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 02:42 AM

Isn't it implied during Sakura's confession that Sasuke knows about NS?

 

When she said she'll be all alone without him Sasuke instantly thought of her and Naruto instead of her, Naruto and Kakashi.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 02:43 AM

So at what point do you guys think Sakura decided to stop pursuing a relationship with Sasuke? (Not fall out of love but just stop pursuing him romantically)

 

My guess is probably around the beginning of part 2 everything around that point started to revolve around Team 7 rather than just Sasuke.

 

On a seperate note I'm kicking myself here in frustration because I just realized a friend of a friend of mine was interviewed by Kishi himself (he was a producer on TASM2) If I knew about it ahead of time I could have asked him to ask Kishi about some of the confusing kitten after the pain arc. Off the record ofcourse.

I think that she stopped pursuing a relationship with sasuke between part 1 and part 2, you know, four years have passed and we dont know much about what happened, sakura probably thinked alot about it, but maybe she stopped for real when she noticed that naruto is the guy that she always been looking for :)



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Posted 10 July 2014 - 02:47 AM

@pepsi
This is just my guess, I think it happen after the sasuke rejection.

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 02:48 AM

Oddly enough, this would be a good time for Sakura to confirm the world about the dropping the love to us. Maybe, maybe not. I'll wait on the next chapter to see the whole view.



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Posted 10 July 2014 - 02:54 AM

So at what point do you guys think Sakura decided to stop pursuing a relationship with Sasuke? (Not fall out of love but just stop pursuing him romantically)

 

My guess is probably around the beginning of part 2 everything around that point started to revolve around Team 7 rather than just Sasuke.

 

On a seperate note I'm kicking myself here in frustration because I just realized a friend of a friend of mine was interviewed by Kishi himself (he was a producer on TASM2) If I knew about it ahead of time I could have asked him to ask Kishi about some of the confusing kitten after the pain arc. Off the record ofcourse.

 

Throughout all of Part 2. Her love for him became weaker and weaker, and harder for her to keep up with. And then she finally gave up on him, when she went to give Naruto a confession and go kill Sasuke. But she couldn't do it, not because she loved him so much, but because she didn't want to give up on finding the old Sasuke. That's where I actually think it stopped being romantic, because she accepted Sasuke as who he was and not what she wanted him to be, since the beginning of the series. She starts looking at him as an unreachable person with flaws, and starts putting her faith in Naruto to to bring Sasuke back.

 

Sakura's given up on him romantically at that point, but Naruto hasn't and will not give up on Sasuke in a brotherly way. Because Sakura's bond with Sasuke was never as strong as Naruto's bond with Sasuke, and Sakura understands that.


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Why do people NOT ship these two? I just don't get it.

Probably cause they hate Sakura. When she's probably the most developed female character in the whole show.

I respect Hinata, but Sakura deserves some too.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 03:21 AM

(Did someone already brought it here?)

 

 

I gonna ctrlc/ctrlv what I saw in a Narusaku group in facebook: 

 

first I saw it: 

 

the photos are actually Tachibana cards from official Naruto Shinobi collection
as said by an SS fan
the part i hated is
Naruto: Hikoboshi
Hinata:Orihime
Sakura:Orihime's prayer
Sasuke:Tsukoyami illusion

as far i know this festival (Tachibana or tanAbata) is union of Hikoboshi and Orihime 

Can anybody translate the quotes
and why the hell second version (not single ones) are NH and SS version?!!!

url for more about the festival:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanabata

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but then I saw it:

 

TANABATA CARDS NARUSAKU AND SASUHINA

"Chinese version stated that Orihime Tanabata (Zhinu) bore (actual color for princess) pink or red cloths while Hikoboshi (Niulang) wearing green cloths"

"The Japanese version stated that the Goddess would Tanabata blue or red light (symbolizing she is the goddess of the sky) and Mikeran wore blue and purple (the color of energy). Necklace beads or" nenju "(" accounts of Thought ") used as a Japanese rosary to pray for the gods. every beads represent the" sins of man "or earthly desires.'s largest account is" Magatama "owned Amaterasu (Sun Goddess)."

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanabata

 

 

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who is right?? could someone clarify this for me???   :huh: 


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  • Interests:NaruSaku, SasuNaru, SasuHina, Sakura, Naruto, Hinata, Sasuke, Gaara, Itachi, Kakashi, Madara (especially when he's badass xD), Hashirama's laugh <3, forums, debating about random s**t, bananas, lemons, the color yellow, the number 29, people cheating on other people, people killing themselves, the power of bonds and s**t, anime, manga, Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, One Piece, Bleach, Sailor Moon, Fairy Tail, Pokemon, Death Note, Yu-Gi-Oh, and much more, chibis, drawing, dogs, cats, frogs, angst, tragedy, fluff, music, punk rock, piano, dubstep, trance, Avril Lavigne, OneRepublic, Ed Sheeran, Paramore, monsters, zombies, vampires, demons, violence, sex, supernatural s**t, food, fat people, anorexic people, Dora the Explorer, and Barney the mother-effing dinosaur. :)

Posted 10 July 2014 - 03:29 AM

That NaruSaku/SasuHina picture is adorable *o*


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Why do people NOT ship these two? I just don't get it.

Probably cause they hate Sakura. When she's probably the most developed female character in the whole show.

I respect Hinata, but Sakura deserves some too.





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