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#23581 WorldSoCold

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 10:14 PM

Hey, is your username from the song by Three Days Grace?

 

Just wondering  :sweatdrop:

nah, its actually from 12 stones, love this music lol, but world so cold from three days grace is actually pretty good too! (i found this music on a AMV) 

yeah I think he did know ever since the Chunnin Exam arc or maybe before that ... But normally when Naruto talks to Sasuke disrespectfully , Sasuke shoots back . But when it came to Naruto defending Sakura-Chan ,Sasuke never shoots back but instead he always says Naruto's name in his head like he understands . That's why I believe Sasuke made sure and told Sakura-Chan that it was Naruto who saved her from Gaara and what really convinced me was the way he was telling the story to her to really emphasize that he put his life on the line for her.

nice point, you couldnt be so clear as this, nice!



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Posted 09 July 2014 - 10:22 PM

nah, its actually from 12 stones, love this music lol, but world so cold from three days grace is actually pretty good too! (i found this music on a AMV) 
nice point, you couldnt be so clear as this, nice!

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 10:28 PM

You know, I always have this strange feeling that part 1 Sasuke always favoured NS. I dunno why but I can't deny its possibility. I mean, yeah he didn't have feelings for Sakura that's another thing but because Naruto was his best friend, he always rejected Sakura for Naruto's sake. Kind of....funny really...I don't even know if it is possible or not, but I can't help but think this as a possibility!

 

Same here! I mean Naruto was probably his closest friend at the time. Sakura was too, but not as much as Naruto. SasuSaku fans used to ask me, if Naruto and Sakura got together, where would that leave Sasuke? And I just found the question very easy to answer. 1) He wouldn't care. but then there's 2) That he would be happy for Naruto. Naruto always seemed to surprise him all throughout the show. 

 

Naruto constantly felt jealous and angry at Sasuke for getting Sakura's attention in Part 1, so basically Sasuke would feel indifferent and accept his "defeat" even though he was never fighting Sakura's love and attention in the first place  :P And the funny thing is, now Naruto's crush on Sakura isn't shallow like that, and Sakura seems to be giving much more love and attention towards Naruto, because she cares about his safety and his dreams - not Sasuke's.


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Why do people NOT ship these two? I just don't get it.

Probably cause they hate Sakura. When she's probably the most developed female character in the whole show.

I respect Hinata, but Sakura deserves some too.


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Posted 09 July 2014 - 10:35 PM

I find the worry almost as funny as like how SS fans and NH fans violently reacted towards 632 only one week later past 631 and started going:

 

"AHAHAHA lo its an anti-NS chapter lol see you were trolled!"

 

When apparently a quick smirk from sasuke being surprised at sakuras power and naruto having a fear of it is somehow a pro ss and anti ns moment at once? Likewise when Sakura thanked sasuke but not naruto on the save that meant anti-ns as well?

 

It wasn't pairing based at all, it was just quick solid humor, Sasuke had not seen nor expected that from her so it was a bit of a suprise but it didnt overly matter to him when we saw how he is now. Likewise how many times has naruto made this fishlips face when he got spooked at something? I mean he did it in the start of part 2 when he first saw sakuras power, he did it when Kushina told him she beat up her bullies, and again here? Besides wouldn't naruto wanting acknowledgement of helping sakura, couldnt that also be argued that he wants praise or attention from her, wouldnt that you know, fit the bill of the old dynamic on how he wanted sakura to notice him? If anything wanting notion from her could be argued that it proves he is still in love with her if he wants the looks she gives sasuke, but seriously it was just meant for honest to goodness humor, the deal of naruto being surprised and being jealous of sasuke getting the attention, hell that right there means he still wants sakuras love, aka he still loves her.

 

Its funny how pairing fans have been violently taking anything and everything they could practically ever since 631. I mean even on narutos relationships page on the wiki, after the minato entry, before the 663 stuff, they put in "after seeing sakuras power from her strength of 100 seal, her power frighted naruto to the point he would never poke fun at her again." They have this in place of say, something better like they used to have, the entry used to be "After she was done healing naruto, naruto told her to rest while he and sasuke prepared to fight the ten tails but sakura instead protested his remark saying that she was not a weak woman and also a disciple of a sannin, to this naruto smiled and looked forward with a reborn team 7 ready to face the ten tails."

 

But fans being nitpicky even on the wiki about everything had to put the other one that doesn't proclaim something excellent on her part like this one, towards him, they instead want to try and make it so its just again a red herring, lets ignore it cause kishi has done such a wonderful job telling us that NH and SS will come, no really Shayalama-ding dongs the last airbender makes more sense then kishis handling of NH and SS if he is intent on it.

 

But now with SS fans going, "OMG I hope SS stuff happens" when its likely not going too, its just sad to see that some of the pairing fanbase, its become so provocative and so devolved, every little thing is like a powder keg ready to go off. I mean is this all because of 631 and 663? Is this because SS may be done for? Is it because HInata is gone for now and NH fans cannot really ride on anything new?

 

Its just like that, they want anything they can find at this point to say everything is like a pro-ss moment despite the negativity and still some think sasuke has these super hidden feelings for sakura, its just, wow my lord are people expecting this stuff? I mean some say we got our hopes too high for sakura with naruto at the end of the recovery event but it didn't change the fact we got a NS moment while NH didnt nor SS either. I mean trying to say the stuff in 632 was purely anti-NS when it could even be argued that naruto wanting praise from sakura still invokes the fact he wants the attention she gives sasuke, aka he wants her to notice him, based on him loving her? Guess that one passed them. I mean apparently the chapter showing a scene based off the old team 7 dynamic is to be super serious and not for a good laugh? I mean Sakura wasn't serious about hokage either, she was just messing with naruto, maybe this instead for the same purpose of I don't know, comedy like in 631? I mean that sakura-kushina event, it was for humor but it was a humorous moment to set up the sakura kushina parallel and give you a hint. Otherwise in the humor it also proved naruto still loved sakura, otherwise why would he even make an issue of sakura not praising him off the ways of the old team 7 dynamic? It was all just for humor in 632, nothing anti or pro, but even then because 631 has naruto still even liking the idea of sakura as his girlfriend to which he replies more or less and makes an issue of her not thanking him for helping in the save, thats just proof he still loves her. Even in these moments NH and SS fans tried to make as anti, ironically theres still a scent of pro ns stuff there even in the humor. I mean SS wasn't exactly good 3 chapters later and Naruto didn't even think of Hinata. He still loves Sakura and thats just something they need to swallow. Narutos moment with his father was for humor but it also built on the foreshadow. Everything in 632 was just humor, nothing anti and if we had to argue it, there was still more pro-ns stuff there, not some reason of him turning away from sakura because of this, thats just outright stupid. It was just the old dynamic at work for that one moment, nothing more or less. 631 was again, for humor but it proved naruto still loves sakura and it was the setup to show and reveal that sakura was like kushina, a build on that foreshadow. Fans going crazy recently, it must be because their ships are lacking moments? Thats all I can say.



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Posted 09 July 2014 - 10:50 PM

You know, I always have this strange feeling that part 1 Sasuke always favoured NS. I dunno why but I can't deny its possibility. I mean, yeah he didn't have feelings for Sakura that's another thing but because Naruto was his best friend, he always rejected Sakura for Naruto's sake. Kind of....funny really...I don't even know if it is possible or not, but I can't help but think this as a possibility!

Sasuke rejecting Sakura for Naruto's sake? I never saw it that way.


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Posted 09 July 2014 - 10:53 PM

Sasuke rejecting Sakura for Naruto's sake? I never saw it that way.

I agree he didn't reject Sakura-Chan for Naruto's sake but he also acknowledged the fact that Naruto loves her. It showed in some of his actions in my opinion .

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 10:54 PM

mmmm, yeah, youre right, but sasuke was naive, he didnt know anything about itachi and all, the fact that he lost everything consumed him, and you know, put yourself in the situation, revenge for your family, and the ones that you first love, or for your best friends? remember, he was only 12, at this age, emotions come over the reason.

i think kishi will put their relation in evidence even more, i think when the right moment comes, thats important.

I dont know, i think the answer is something between your and my opinion but i really have no idea about what gonna be the destination of sasuke. :P

Whats your opinion about how kishi will develop the feelings that sakura have for naruto?

I....have really no clue on this one. There have been hints and stuff and all...but I seriously don't know which way it is going.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 10:55 PM

I agree he didn't reject Sakura-Chan for Naruto's sake but he also acknowledged the fact that Naruto loves her. It showed in some of his actions in my opinion .

Can you provide an example please? 


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Posted 09 July 2014 - 10:57 PM

Can you provide an example please? 

I already stated it in my post above , like the way he told the story to Sakura-Chan about him saving Gaara , yeah he may have said to motivate himself to get stronger but also from the way he told the story it seems like he was trying to get them closer and I have a few more examples that really screamed it out to me .

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 10:59 PM

So....what's up?



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Posted 09 July 2014 - 11:07 PM

So....what's up?

Argentina freaking WON and its in the finals and so will NS just like I predicted all according to plan :hehehe:  


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Posted 09 July 2014 - 11:13 PM

I already stated it in my post above , like the way he told the story to Sakura-Chan about him saving Gaara , yeah he may have said to motivate himself to get stronger but also from the way he told the story it seems like he was trying to get them closer and I have a few more examples that really screamed it out to me .

Sasuke was just giving credit where credit is due. Sakura started off the conversation by thanking Sasuke for saving her, but Sasuke felt it was right to point to her real hero. And you're right, Sasuke was using that as motivation, because in the next panel he goes off to train while having flashbacks of Naruto's fight against Gaara.

 

Why in the world would Sasuke care about Naruto's love life? For Sasuke pre-shippuden, it was all about acquiring strength through any means to kill Itachi and protecting Team 7.


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Posted 09 July 2014 - 11:17 PM

I agree with illnevergiveup.
I believe that sasuke, just like kakashi, acknowledge naruto love to sakura.
But it's not relevant to him so he doesn't say about it.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 11:23 PM

Sasuke was just giving credit where credit is due. Sakura started off the conversation by thanking Sasuke for saving her, but Sasuke felt it was right to point to her real hero. And you're right, Sasuke was using that as motivation, because in the next panel he goes off to train while having flashbacks of Naruto's fight against Gaara.

 

Why in the world would Sasuke care about Naruto's love life? For Sasuke pre-shippuden, it was all about acquiring strength through any means to kill Itachi and protecting Team 7.

 

The point is, Sasuke wouldn't care if Naruto and Sakura got together. He wouldn't be angry or offended or anything, because he probably expects it. He knows Naruto loves Sakura, and I think Sasuke can tell that Sakura cares for Naruto a lot more than usual. He's indifferent to it, but he acknowledges it.

 

Plenty of people have noticed Naruto and Sakura's development, Sasuke probably noticed it too. But that's all there is to it.


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Why do people NOT ship these two? I just don't get it.

Probably cause they hate Sakura. When she's probably the most developed female character in the whole show.

I respect Hinata, but Sakura deserves some too.


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Posted 09 July 2014 - 11:32 PM

The point is, Sasuke wouldn't care if Naruto and Sakura got together. He wouldn't be angry or offended or anything, because he probably expects it. He knows Naruto loves Sakura, and I think Sasuke can tell that Sakura cares for Naruto a lot more than usual. He's indifferent to it, but he acknowledges it.


That's the point. Sasuke does not care about romance. Sasuke has not been shown on panel to know that Naruto has feelings for Sakura, and if he did he wouldn't pay it any attention.
 

Plenty of people have noticed Naruto and Sakura's development, Sasuke probably noticed it too. But that's all there is to it.


Development? Sure. I only accept things that have been shown in the series. Speculation is just speculation.

The only people who was shown on panel to know that Naruto has feelings for Sakura is:

Tsunade

Sai

konohamaru

Gamakichi


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Posted 09 July 2014 - 11:34 PM

 

The point is, Sasuke wouldn't care if Naruto and Sakura got together. He wouldn't be angry or offended or anything, because he probably expects it. He knows Naruto loves Sakura, and I think Sasuke can tell that Sakura cares for Naruto a lot more than usual. He's indifferent to it, but he acknowledges it.

 

Plenty of people have noticed Naruto and Sakura's development, Sasuke probably noticed it too. But that's all there is to it.

Wow...I never even considered the fact that Sasuke probably does think that Naruto and Sakura will get together.  I mean, he's a pretty smart guy, even though he's pretty horrible.  It'll definitely be interesting to see if that will play any role in the last arc of this series.



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Posted 09 July 2014 - 11:39 PM

That's the point. Sasuke does not care about romance. Sasuke has not been shown on panel to know that Naruto has feelings for Sakura, and if he did he wouldn't pay it any attention.
 

Development? Sure. I only accept things that have been shown in the series. Speculation is just speculation.
The only people who was shown on panel to know that Naruto has feelings for Sakura is:
Tsunade
Sai
konohamaru
Gamakichi


Shikimaru, Shizune, Jiraiya, Kakashi, and Yamato also know. Possibly also Lee and Kiba since they were there at the confession and were like wtf when they realized what she was up to.

So there's speculation that the cavs could end up with Lebron and make a move on Kevin love, how good would Lebron, Irving, and Love be?

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 11:51 PM

Shikimaru, Shizune, Jiraiya, Kakashi, and Yamato also know. Possibly also Lee and Kiba since they were there at the confession and were like wtf when they realized what she was up to.

So there's speculation that the cavs could end up with Lebron and make a move on Kevin love, how good would Lebron, Irving, and Love be?

I'm not saying that other people knowing about Naruto's feelings is out of the realm of possibilities. I'm just going by the panels that have shown these characters of 100% knowing.

 

Yeah, I've heard all about this crap. Dan freaking Gilbert had to take off the hate mail on the Cavs site because he thinks the likelihood of Lebron returning is high. lol first of all the Cavs haven't been in the playoffs in how many years? Second, they just got a coach that has yet to prove himself in the nba. Lastly, their front office sucks compared to Miami's and their roster is a bunch of inexperienced youngsters who only attract Lebron based off potential. 

 

 

lol Lebron ain't going back to that depression city, no matter how much the fans and the owner begs. 


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 12:12 AM

I'm not saying that other people knowing about Naruto's feelings is out of the realm of possibilities. I'm just going by the panels that have shown these characters of 100% knowing.
 
Yeah, I've heard all about this crap. Dan freaking Gilbert had to take off the hate mail on the Cavs site because he thinks the likelihood of Lebron returning is high. lol first of all the Cavs haven't been in the playoffs in how many years? Second, they just got a coach that has yet to prove himself in the nba. Lastly, their front office sucks compared to Miami's and their roster is a bunch of inexperienced youngsters who only attract Lebron based off potential. 
 
 
lol Lebron ain't going back to that depression city, no matter how much the fans and the owner begs.


Of the ones I mentioned, Shikamaru, Shizune, and Jiraiya were shown on panel, Shikimaru and Shizune were there for the talk with Sai (Shikamaru was eavesdropping) and Jiraiya knew back in part one during the summoning training. The rest I mentioned were never shown, but Kakashi definitely knows, being the guys teacher, and it's logical that Yamato knows. Sasuke knows as well lol

I think the Cleveland thing would be interesting, but I really wanna see Lebron and Melo, I don't care where they end up, as long as they're playing together.

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 12:20 AM

Shikimaru, Shizune, Jiraiya, Kakashi, and Yamato also know. Possibly also Lee and Kiba since they were there at the confession and were like wtf when they realized what she was up to.

So there's speculation that the cavs could end up with Lebron and make a move on Kevin love, how good would Lebron, Irving, and Love be?

Probably, though Kishi's intentions keep kittening changing on what the confession really meant from Sakura's POV so who knows what the kitten he's up to with this. One one hand  the context could go either way on whether it was truthful or not, on another Kishi says it was truthful on another hand the KB says it wasn't, on anoth Kishi mentions that alot of the time people miss the context of what he's trying to write which makes it seem like he's referencing a couple of moments (469, 540) on another his stance on where she stands keeps changing. Its confusing so trying to see how this affected characters who viewed this scenario is just as hard to tell. We can tell that from the confession and from the dream chapter, Lee possibly took that confession seriously hence why he's standing over a defeated Naruto with Sakura swooning over him. Kiba probably knows Sakura likes Naruto from 469 but he probably doesn't know where Naruto stands. 


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