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[VanitasDS76491]

its just, introducing more and more gods to the point of ridiculousness and there being absolutely no tension at like all is the biggest problem. goku seriously doesn't care if one of the universes get erased. OUR HERO LADIES AND GENTS! if he doesnt care then why the heck should I? at least he gave a damn in gt.
 
also about pan, i dont care about her in super. the fact they made her fly and power up with aura as a baby is stupid no matter how you slice it. remember how people complained about goten and trunks turning the "super saiyan" into a not so special transformation? yeah its like that for me with baby pan's aura and flight. btw i didn't mind her in gt.

I find naruto doing the same as goku especially if sasuke is involved. Like in the last during his depression that hinata rejected him. He was going to let everyone died just cause some girl he barely talked to rejected him, now if it was sakura did that and they were dating and she did that it would make a little more sense but still be occ for naruto.

[Catra]

nice save going back ot :)

[VanitasDS76491]

nice save going back ot :)

What? I don't know what your saying if it's about my post but you know I'm right about naruto dooming his world again.

[Catra]

im saying it was clever how you brought the topic back to naruto

[TheFirstEvil100]

its just, introducing more and more gods to the point of ridiculousness and there being absolutely no tension at like all is the biggest problem. goku seriously doesn't care if one of the universes get erased. OUR HERO LADIES AND GENTS! if he doesnt care then why the heck should I? at least he gave a damn in gt.

 

also about pan, i dont care about her in super. the fact they made her fly and power up with aura as a baby is stupid no matter how you slice it. remember how people complained about goten and trunks turning the "super saiyan" into a not so special transformation? yeah its like that for me with baby pan's aura and flight. btw i didn't mind her in gt.

To be far with Goku toriyama has said many times he hatted how the anime in Z/GT made Goku out to be this great hero when he is not as toriyama said all Goku cares for is fighting and get stronger, he does not care at all so Goku is not a hero and is in fact very selfish which has been shown many time why do you think he let past Villians go so he could just fight them again.

 

Its why he let Vegeta go cause he wanted to fight Vegeta again same with Piccolo and Frieza hence the new arc we are getting hell his own family or so far Gohan is asking what the hell Goku is thinking and doing hell both Beerus and Whis have said that this was a bad idea but again all Goku cares for is fighting that is what he lives for. So the Goku we are seeing is the Goku that toriyama says he should act I mean fans are asking why Goku is doing this is the power he has going to his head that much, kind of how we all wondered why Naruto keeps sucking Sasuke's kitten when we know Sasuke is a kitten. When a stroy is made the writer makes it so we need to think on the hero and how the act and grow.

 

With Pan well we have no idea I mean she is Gohan's daughter and look at him as a 4 year old and we have no idea what Piccolo is doing with her when looking after her I mean Raditz even said they sent babies to kill planets then there is Broly remember him saved his father and lives as Frieza blow up the planet, plus makes more sense than Naruto getting knocked out by is stupied daughter.

 

With GT Pan well your one of the very very few man, a lot of people say GT pan sucks with one saying she is just like Sakura a kitten that needs to die trust me I have meet them

[VanitasDS76491]

im saying it was clever how you brought the topic back to naruto

He these threads get derailed alot. I was just comparing how bad naruto is like goku, cause naruto is just as bad as goku. You have to admit him being depressed over Hinata rejecting him for toneri was out of character cause if that's all it took then naruto would be doing that ever time sakura rejected him.

[VanitasDS76491]

To be far with Goku toriyama has said many times he hatted how the anime in Z/GT made Goku out to be this great hero when he is not as toriyama said all Goku cares for is fighting and get stronger, he does not care at all so Goku is not a hero and is in fact very selfish which has been shown many time why do you think he let past Villians go so he could just fight them again.
 
Its why he let Vegeta go cause he wanted to fight Vegeta again same with Piccolo and Frieza hence the new arc we are getting hell his own family or so far Gohan is asking what the hell Goku is thinking and doing hell both Beerus and Whis have said that this was a bad idea but again all Goku cares for is fighting that is what he lives for. So the Goku we are seeing is the Goku that toriyama says he should act I mean fans are asking why Goku is doing this is the power he has going to his head that much, kind of how we all wondered why Naruto keeps sucking Sasuke's kitten when we know Sasuke is a kitten. When a stroy is made the writer makes it so we need to think on the hero and how the act and grow.
 
With Pan well we have no idea I mean she is Gohan's daughter and look at him as a 4 year old and we have no idea what Piccolo is doing with her when looking after her I mean Raditz even said they sent babies to kill planets then there is Broly remember him saved his father and lives as Frieza blow up the planet, plus makes more sense than Naruto getting knocked out by is stupied daughter.
 
With GT Pan well your one of the very very few man, a lot of people say GT pan sucks with one saying she is just like Sakura a kitten that needs to die trust me I have meet them

Ya that makes sense I heard in death battle goku in the anime was made to be like superman the complete opposite of his manga self.
I would doubt you have met people who say on such a like Sakura. Seems like in a fandom you can't have an opinion. Ya the saiyan babies things makes more sense and do they even imply himawari has been getting training for hinata cause as far as I know that has not been Said or shown. Cause it's hinata to busy being a housewife and being useless.

[Havikinazuma]

To be far with Goku toriyama has said many times he hatted how the anime in Z/GT made Goku out to be this great hero when he is not as toriyama said all Goku cares for is fighting and get stronger, he does not care at all so Goku is not a hero and is in fact very selfish which has been shown many time why do you think he let past Villians go so he could just fight them again.
 
Its why he let Vegeta go cause he wanted to fight Vegeta again same with Piccolo and Frieza hence the new arc we are getting hell his own family or so far Gohan is asking what the hell Goku is thinking and doing hell both Beerus and Whis have said that this was a bad idea but again all Goku cares for is fighting that is what he lives for. So the Goku we are seeing is the Goku that toriyama says he should act I mean fans are asking why Goku is doing this is the power he has going to his head that much, kind of how we all wondered why Naruto keeps sucking Sasuke's kitten when we know Sasuke is a kitten. When a stroy is made the writer makes it so we need to think on the hero and how the act and grow.
 
With Pan well we have no idea I mean she is Gohan's daughter and look at him as a 4 year old and we have no idea what Piccolo is doing with her when looking after her I mean Raditz even said they sent babies to kill planets then there is Broly remember him saved his father and lives as Frieza blow up the planet, plus makes more sense than Naruto getting knocked out by is stupied daughter.
 
With GT Pan well your one of the very very few man, a lot of people say GT pan sucks with one saying she is just like Sakura a kitten that needs to die trust me I have meet them

About Goku... Sure he selfish and nieve just loke Toriyama wants, and Goku should be, but that doesn't NOT make him a hero. Not some Superman, gotta protect everyone with truth and justice kind of way, but "a country bumkin, gotta fight and get stronger while protecting my home and family" kind of way.

You see, without the English Dub's gloss, you see the real Goku, he's not dumb, but foolish and nieve on feelings and the feelings of others. Like Vegeta, he's a Saiyan, meaning a strong thirst for battle battle and keeps training, waiting for a challenge. According to a Toriyama interview, Goku doesn't understand the complexities of relationships, even going as far as viewing his family as close comrades.True he wouldn't let nothing happen to them, but, as you notice a change in Vegeta's character, you take notes on how much they differ.

It's not that Goku is a bad guy, it could be from lack of formal education, lack of social skills, and/or manners, or it could be from hitting his head. Who knows? Goku has huge level of intelligence when it comes to fighting, and stategy, but lacks ability to count high numbers, or understand if a girl likes him or what like/love truly means. He's a fighting fool, that makes bad decisions at times, and fights for the thrill, but still protect those around close him if they need help.

Tr;dr He's not traditional hero, and maybe a fighting fool, but still can considered a hero all the same.

[LuckyChi7]

So rewatching Road to Ninja made me wanna like explore some doujins just for fun, and man someone should make a manga about this cause it totally works:

 

 

heads out read Left to Right

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Btw from what this guy has done,  he mentioned that his intention is to make it MenmaSaku and "maybe) SasuHina. 

 

 

If you guys want I could make a thread for this and we could discuss more there... 

 

 

I will say in terms of what I've seen I think this like the first few pages or so, but RTN Sakura is an airhead and I feel that makes her adorable and hilarious too especially with the interactions she has with Menma.  Also Sasuke or as I like to call him Charasuke lols for days.  

 

 

Imagine if this was the canon universe instead, It be a lot of fun. 

[ultranx]

Soooo....I recently rewatched the entire series of Yu-gi-oh 5D's in  japanese with my brother. And.....

 

Says to kishimoto: "You could learn a thing or 2 from the writers of Yu-gi-oh 5D's you sexist idiot."

 

xD seriously Aki/Akiza makes most of the female characters in Naruto look bad. A female character  and one of the strongest characters in the entire series. And she's a psychic and has the power to make her monsters real and do physical damage and kill people. Plus Black Rose Dragon is amazing.

 

I recently started playing the Yu-gi-oh game Legacy of the Duelist and it had a campaign that followed the anime so it made me want to rewatch Yu-gi-oh in japanese since I had never seen it all and had only seen it dubbed when I was younger. started with 5D's since it was my favorite and I always loved the synchro monsters.

Edited by ultranx, 06 March 2017 - 11:13 PM.

[VanitasDS76491]

Soooo....I recently rewatched the entire series of Yu-gi-oh 5D's in  japanese with my brother. And.....
 
Says to kishimoto: "You could learn a thing or 2 from the writers of Yu-gi-oh 5D's you sexist idiot."
 
xD seriously Aki/Akiza makes most of the female characters in Naruto look bad. A female character  and one of the strongest characters in the entire series. And she's a psychic and has the power to make her monsters real and do physical damage and kill people. Plus Black Rose Dragon is amazing.
 
I recently started playing the Yu-gi-oh game Legacy of the Duelist and it had a campaign that followed the anime so it made me want to rewatch Yu-gi-oh in japanese since I had never seen it all and had only seen it dubbed when I was younger. started with 5D's since it was my favorite and I always loved the synchro monsters.

Aki is awesome though I haven't watch alot of 5 ds but I've done research on her.
Also remember awhile ago you brought naruto took from yu Yu hakusho find something else. Remember that justu itachi put kabuto in during the pointless war to undo the edo tensei which ultimately lead to nothing since madara made it back fire. Point is itachi' s justu is a ripoff of kurama' s sinning tree he used in the chapter black on elder toguro in gourmet.

[Catra]

looking back at toonami stuff and something just hit me...

 

at the time when i was hooked on naruto i forgot about all the other splendid and well done shows on toonami like outlaw star, cyborg 009, ruroni kenshin, yuyu hakusho, big o, beast wars, reboot, zoids, etc. gosh... now i still love these shows now but when i was so into naruto it practically became a black hole

[VanitasDS76491]

looking back at toonami stuff and something just hit me...
 
at the time when i was hooked on naruto i forgot about all the other splendid and well done shows on toonami like outlaw star, cyborg 009, ruroni kenshin, yuyu hakusho, big o, beast wars, reboot, zoids, etc. gosh... now i still love these shows now but when i was so into naruto it practically became a black hole

Oh my God zoids and cyborg 009 were awesome and brings me back.

[Catra]

all better shows than naruto. seriously its proof that the journey just isn't enough, it has to have a good destination and execution of that well otherwise the whole darn thing is P-O-I-N-T-L-E-S-S

[VanitasDS76491]

all better shows than naruto. seriously its proof that the journey just isn't enough, it has to have a good destination and execution of that well otherwise the whole darn thing is P-O-I-N-T-L-E-S-S

Exactly the whole story if naruto was just jerking us around since naruto learned nothing in 700 chapters and 15 years.

[Catra]

i may rewatch outlaw star again after 3 years. its short, its finished with a tight neat bow. perfect

[VanitasDS76491]

i may rewatch outlaw star again after 3 years. its short, its finished with a tight neat bow. perfect

I've seen bits and pieces of it namely ashisa.

[ultranx]

Oh my God zoids and cyborg 009 were awesome and brings me back.

zoids chaotic century ftw

 

 

Aki is awesome though I haven't watch alot of 5 ds but I've done research on her.
Also remember awhile ago you brought naruto took from yu Yu hakusho find something else. Remember that justu itachi put kabuto in during the pointless war to undo the edo tensei which ultimately lead to nothing since madara made it back fire. Point is itachi' s justu is a ripoff of kurama' s sinning tree he used in the chapter black on elder toguro in gourmet.

also her theme makes her even more awesome.

 

5D's literally has the best soundtrack in the entire series, and is one of the top series, competes with season 0 its so good. So much better than naruto, 5D's is forever one of my top series and forever my favorite Yu-gi-oh series

 

also Yusei's battle theme completely destroys Yugi's and Jaden's:

yusei theme

 

also this AMAZING  final opening:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo69QXhAFK0

Edited by ultranx, 07 March 2017 - 02:30 AM.

[VanitasDS76491]

zoids chaotic century ftw
 
 

also her theme makes her even more awesome.

 
5D's literally has the best soundtrack in the entire series, and is one of the top series, competes with season 0 its so good. So much better than naruto, 5D's is forever one of my top series and forever my favorite Yu-gi-oh series
 
also Yusei's battle theme completely destroys Yugi's and Jaden's:

yusei theme

 
also this AMAZING  final opening:
 

Your thoughts on jaden and Alexis?

[Moon_Girl]

Aki is way better than Hinata. But I think she focused way too much on Yusei after the Dark Signer arc. I liked her way better as a psycho.
But still, she's way more awesome.

 

Black Rose Dragon and Black Rose Moonlight Dragon are my favorite cards <3