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#2321 Paptala

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 04:02 AM

QUOTE (Madz @ Mar 22 2011, 07:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Kushina/Sakura resemblance: That jumped to eyes immediately. Their unusual hair colour, their temper, their habit of punching people they love, their strong character...
But the funny thing is I still had a huge fight on the board on which I usually read the mangas (they are majorly NaruHina over there) - they refused to see the resemblance at all. In fact, they claim that it's Hinata who resembles Kushina omfg.gif
Why? because Hinata was willing to give up her life for Naruto, same as Kushina.

The thing that people like to forget is that Sakura also risked her life for Naruto - it wasn't so boldly stated as Hinata's action was, but her charge towards Naruto in his KN4 state was her risking her life in order to bring the Naruto she knew back.

Not only that, but in confessing, Sakura did an incredibly selfless thing. Unlike Hinata's confession, which she said herself was selfish - what Sakura did for Naruto wasn't going to get her any thanks or approval from anyone and she knew that. The person she wanted to help the most would most likely hate her for doing what she felt was in his best interest in the long run. Especially if she was still in love with Sasuke, she was willing to put her own feelings aside for Naruto's sake - both with her confession and her decision to kill Sasuke on her own ("She didn't tell you because she knew how much it would hurt you," "She was thinking of your(Naruto's) feelings," and [in regards to Sakura killing Sasuke, after Sai said that she was doing it because she loves Sasuke] "And she knows that might make you hate her. It's her way of atoning for saddling you with the burden of the promise for so many years,"

Hinata saved Naruto's life - but Sakura was one of the people who Naruto said saved him from the hell of loneliness (said during the fight with Gaara), is someone who has no compunctions about risking her physical well being to help Naruto, and someone who was willing to sacrifice on an incredibly significant level emotionally for him with only his own benefit in mind - the last thing Hinata herself was unable to do. She would rather have her feelings for Naruto off of her chest (hence why she said she was being selfish imo) then not tell him, burdening herself and not burdening Naruto with knowledge that would make her almost certain death at Pein's hands that much harder to witness.

So when fans try to say that Hinata is more similar to Kushina because they both risked their lives for him - I have to shake my head.
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@Meek:
Yeah, there had been a major speculation as to why only the issue of Naruto's finding a girl like Kushina was not mentioned here. Personally, I believe it's for the same reason that there has been no confrontation between Naruto/Hinata and Naruto/Sakura about each confessions yet - it is to keep the romantic suspense till the end. It's a classic move to keep some of the answers till the end, and this is what is keeping all other shipping possibilities still "alive" (I say alive in comas because it's the only thing that is NH and SS - though very few by now - going on)

I agree exactly - Kishi is drawing out the pairing drama as long as he can to keep people buying.
QUOTE (Meek @ Mar 22 2011, 08:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@Madz pfft, but this kind of crap makes me nervous: not that I don't believe that NS will not work, IT HAS TO WORK, THERE'S NO OTHER OPTION!! but still... (a-and the fact that Naruto has been ignoring Hinata since her confession, WHY?? Is it because he doesn't know how to tell her he doesn't like her too/or he was touched and now he's starting to develop some feelings towards her (no, no that's just nonsense!) damn, Kishi, hurry up and give us some NaruSaku moments already... OTL

The fact that Naruto has been ignoring Hinata since her confession is crucial in the fact that it reveals just how onesided NH is. NH is about Hinata - always has been. Hinata's feelings weren't important enough to be developed - they simply were, and they were never shown growing throughout the series unlike Naruto's (whose feelings for Sakura were likewise always were).

Hinata's confession was closure for Hinata's character - her unresolved feelings for Naruto was the last thing that needed to be taken care of for Kishimoto to be essentially finished with her character in terms of plot relevance. He resolved her family issues in the part one in one arc, and then resolved the second issue with her character in part two (which was not an issue that was even introduced in part two, but left over from part one). The fact that Naruto has not thought of the confession once, that after discovering she was alright, has not thought of Hinata in a singular way (always as part of a group), the fact that Hinata has barely said or done anything since confession, and the fact that Hinata's feelings for Naruto have not been brought up again at all (not even a blush when she and Naruto were in close proximity as is normally the case) all seem to support that NH was all about Hinata, and now that she's confessed, it's resolved in the story.
QUOTE (Madz @ Mar 22 2011, 08:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Meek - I know I will get flamed for saying this, but I personally think that narusaku is not 100% given. There is a small possibility (very very very small) that Naruhina can happen, against all odds and ends. It's not so unheard that some authors create some very unexpected twist, to drop a bomb, so I don't rule the possibility out.
Kishi was inspired by DBZ, and don't forget that Chi-Chi was a princess too (same as Hinata), and Chi-Chi did not form part of the gang (same as Hinata). These points are very lame, I know, but I don't disregard the significance of it.
I'm the type to never underestimate the 'enemy', lol...

I agreed with you completely until the bolded part - NH does have a slim chance still because Naruto hasn't outright rejected Hinata, Kishi did bother to have her have that grand confession, and then he managed to have Naruto and Sakura have that botched confession, also indicating through other characters statements that Sakura seems to still love Sasuke.

However - it wouldn't be because of any DBZ parallels.
1) Consider Chichi's personality. Even as a child, when she was blushing and coy around Goku, she acted much more like Sakura did around Sasuke then Hinata did around Naruto (who could barely get out a sentence, let alone ask things like, "Will you miss me too?"). As an adult at the end of Dragonball and into the rest of the series, Chichi is clearly more like Sakura - a tsundere who will yell at and hit her husband for comical purposes, but still shows love for him.
2) Even though Chichi is a minor side character (like Hinata), there is a crucial difference that you are forgetting. Goku never had a love interest himself in the entire series. The lead female was quite a bit older than him (5 years I believe?), and he never showed any signs of romantic interest in her or ANY girl until Chichi came along at the 23rd World Tournament and reminded him that he had promised to marry her.

Naruto has been in love with Sakura for the whole series, feelings and a relationship that Kishi has touched upon more consistently than any other hetero bond in the series.
QUOTE (Yoshimoya @ Mar 22 2011, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What worries me and makes me doubt NaruSaku at times is two things:

1.Sakura's feelings that unfortunately still exist "Team 7 Reunion" Manga Chapter proved that... it may not be as strong I hope though... She attempted to kill him many times and I saw her cry when she was healing Karin. She probably saw that Karin loved Sasuke too and hates what he's become. I'm hoping that Sakura just CARES for him and wants him back for reasons that don't harm NaruSaku. My argument in this subject makes me falter and it's still unclear to me. Perhaps someone can help me out and clear this part for me. Her feelings are OH SO confusing.

To be honest, I don't believe that Sakura is still in love with Sasuke - I think that either what she felt for him was never true romantic love in the first place, or she has already started falling out of love with him and only has lingering feelings for the person that Sasuke USED to be.

Note that Kishimoto hasn't has Sakura ONCE say or think ANYTHING about her feelings for Sasuke. Unlike Naruto and Hinata's direct confirmations of their romantic feelings in part two, Sakura's only direct confirmation came from part one.

In fact, in regards towards feelings for Sasuke, she's always been more concerned about defending Naruto's feelings for him than her own in part two (Sakura defended and explained Naruto's feelings for Sasuke to Sai, not her own. Sakura yelled at Sasuke, nothing about her own feelings for him, but about NARUTO'S feelings for Sasuke.

This conspicuous lack of direct confirmation from Sakura doesn't seem odd to any of you?

Also, recall that when she was told about the rookies' decision to kill Sasuke, did Kishimoto show her thinking of Sasuke at all? No - he chose to show her thinking ONLY of Naruto and the pain that she's caused him. Naruto was not the one in immediate physical danger - Sasuke was, and yet, she was more worried about Naruto than Sasuke. I think that says a lot.

So yes, while Sakura's feelings are still up in the air - if Sakura is supposed to still be in love with Sasuke, I feel that Kishimoto has done a horrible job of showing that to us.
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2.Lack of Sakura's ROMANTIC FEELINGS for Naruto? C'mon, we all know she loves Naruto. And I'm pretty sure that HE is the most important person in HER life right now. This alone used to put me at ease, but this problem, combined with Sakura's feelings towards Sasuke makes me feel unclear and falter too. I haven't seen Sakura really show as much ROMANTIC INTEREST in Naruto as she has done in Sasuke. "Team 7 Reunion" chapter was HIGHLY romantic feelings that Sakura thought about and made her doubt if she can kill him. That worries me like no other...

Notice again that Sakura was thinking about Sasuke as he was before he defected. Why can't the flashbacks show that her love for who Sasuke USED to be is what held her back from making the killing blow? Kakashi told Sakura that Sasuke wasn't the same person, Karin told Sakura that Sasuke wasn't the same person, and Sakura herself thought that Sasuke wasn't the same person he used to be.

Quite a lot of emphasis on Sasuke no longer being the person that he was - hence, Sasuke is no longer the person that Sakura loved. And while I'm sure that he will be redeemed, Sasuke can never really return to the person he was at 12/13 because of what he's experienced since then. Just as Naruto and Sakura cannot return to the people they were at that age either.

So while Sakura's flashback and inability to kill Sasuke support the theory that Sakura still loves Sasuke, they don't prove it conclusively. When you take into account some of her other behavior, you start to see actions that are incompatible with the notion Sakura still loving Sasuke (like thinking only of Naruto when she learned Sasuke was going to die, and yelling at Sasuke about Naruto's feelings when he attacked Naruto verbally (when she didn't say or do anything when he attacked Kakashi in a similar manner verbally).
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I know there's some moments where it seems like Sakura is flirting with Naruto (her offering to feed Naruto ramen, her confessing her love was def. romantic but there have been countless speculations on whether it was genuine). So yeah, I'm pretty sure you all see the lack of ROMANTIC interest compared to that of Sasuke's. I'm not trying to be a downer, but yeah she needs to step it up with that. We all know Naruto still likes her. I may be wrong but idk... my dad watches and reads Naruto and brought this up. Hopefully I'm just dazed by another doubter and it's not entirely true. SO help me out biggrin.gif

Honestly, what has Sakura done for Sasuke that shows her romantic love that she HASN'T done for Naruto?

She's blushed around both of them (due to admiration and attraction).
She's hugged both of them (twice).
She's cried over both of them (though Naruto and Sasuke's reactions to that were markedly different).
She's worried over both of them.
She's given both of them encouraging words and fond smiles.
She's shown a similar desire to protect both of them.
She's defended both of them verbally from others (and angrily at that).
Sakura's desperate run to curse seal Sasuke in comparison to her desperate run to KN4 Naruto.
She's flirted with both of them (though with Naruto it was more playful and less fangirlish).
She's confessed to both of them.

The only thing on that list Sakura hasn't done for Naruto (if my memory serves correctly) is outright fan girling and a perverted thought (her thinking it would be okay if Sasuke tried to pee in front of her in the forest of death).
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*Addition.
After confessing to Naruto her love and Naruto showed that he didn't believe her and said that he "hated people who lie to themselves", as she WALKED away with the TEAM, she STATED "I'm sorry Naruto" with a GRIMACING face... WAS SHE LIEING? DID SHE REALLY LIE IN HER CONFESSION? IS SHE APOLOGIZING BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T FEEL AS STRONGLY AS HER CONFESSION SEEMED? Sigh... oh the doubt.

While it's not proven, I strongly believe that Sakura was apologizing for her plan to kill Sasuke. She knew (as Sai stated) how much it would hurt him and that she believed Naruto would likely hate her for such an action. This is supported by Sai's conversation with Naruto after her confession, and Sakura's next words after thinking, "I'm sorry Naruto" - it's her asking Kiba to help her find Sasuke.
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Posted 27 March 2011 - 08:06 AM

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 01:53 PM

I think half the reason i like narusaku pairing is because of Sakura's cute anger towards Naruto's stupidity.

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 01:55 PM

Maybe also because of sakuras broken heart when it comes to sasuke and i think she should have naruto to mend that heart.

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 04:00 PM

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 04:31 PM

QUOTE (Paptala @ Mar 27 2011, 04:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The thing that people like to forget is that Sakura also risked her life for Naruto - it wasn't so boldly stated as Hinata's action was, but her charge towards Naruto in his KN4 state was her risking her life in order to bring the Naruto she knew back.

Not only that, but in confessing, Sakura did an incredibly selfless thing. Unlike Hinata's confession, which she said herself was selfish - what Sakura did for Naruto wasn't going to get her any thanks or approval from anyone and she knew that. The person she wanted to help the most would most likely hate her for doing what she felt was in his best interest in the long run. Especially if she was still in love with Sasuke, she was willing to put her own feelings aside for Naruto's sake - both with her confession and her decision to kill Sasuke on her own ("She didn't tell you because she knew how much it would hurt you," "She was thinking of your(Naruto's) feelings," and [in regards to Sakura killing Sasuke, after Sai said that she was doing it because she loves Sasuke] "And she knows that might make you hate her. It's her way of atoning for saddling you with the burden of the promise for so many years,"

Hinata saved Naruto's life - but Sakura was one of the people who Naruto said saved him from the hell of loneliness (said during the fight with Gaara), is someone who has no compunctions about risking her physical well being to help Naruto, and someone who was willing to sacrifice on an incredibly significant level emotionally for him with only his own benefit in mind - the last thing Hinata herself was unable to do. She would rather have her feelings for Naruto off of her chest (hence why she said she was being selfish imo) then not tell him, burdening herself and not burdening Naruto with knowledge that would make her almost certain death at Pein's hands that much harder to witness.


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one thing tho. some people need to realize Hinata never saved Naruto. She moved on a selfish impulse, confessed to him and charged at Pain. None of which was done with the intention of saving or helping Naruto. How does saying "I love you" and then running to your death help or save anyone from that kind of situation? it doesn't. Hinata was acting for herself thats why she said it was selfish she clearly didn't help him, she made the situation worse and was a trigger for the Kyuubi. anybody comparing what she did to hes parents who had no choice but sacrifice there lives for there son and village is nothing but an idiot. its so completely inaccurate.

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 06:51 PM

QUOTE (Paptala @ Mar 27 2011, 12:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The thing that people like to forget is that Sakura also risked her life for Naruto - it wasn't so boldly stated as Hinata's action was, but her charge towards Naruto in his KN4 state was her risking her life in order to bring the Naruto she knew back.

Not only that, but in confessing, Sakura did an incredibly selfless thing. Unlike Hinata's confession, which she said herself was selfish - what Sakura did for Naruto wasn't going to get her any thanks or approval from anyone and she knew that. The person she wanted to help the most would most likely hate her for doing what she felt was in his best interest in the long run. Especially if she was still in love with Sasuke, she was willing to put her own feelings aside for Naruto's sake - both with her confession and her decision to kill Sasuke on her own ("She didn't tell you because she knew how much it would hurt you," "She was thinking of your(Naruto's) feelings," and [in regards to Sakura killing Sasuke, after Sai said that she was doing it because she loves Sasuke] "And she knows that might make you hate her. It's her way of atoning for saddling you with the burden of the promise for so many years,"

Hinata saved Naruto's life - but Sakura was one of the people who Naruto said saved him from the hell of loneliness (said during the fight with Gaara), is someone who has no compunctions about risking her physical well being to help Naruto, and someone who was willing to sacrifice on an incredibly significant level emotionally for him with only his own benefit in mind - the last thing Hinata herself was unable to do. She would rather have her feelings for Naruto off of her chest (hence why she said she was being selfish imo) then not tell him, burdening herself and not burdening Naruto with knowledge that would make her almost certain death at Pein's hands that much harder to witness.

So when fans try to say that Hinata is more similar to Kushina because they both risked their lives for him - I have to shake my head.

I agree exactly - Kishi is drawing out the pairing drama as long as he can to keep people buying.

The fact that Naruto has been ignoring Hinata since her confession is crucial in the fact that it reveals just how onesided NH is. NH is about Hinata - always has been. Hinata's feelings weren't important enough to be developed - they simply were, and they were never shown growing throughout the series unlike Naruto's (whose feelings for Sakura were likewise always were).

Hinata's confession was closure for Hinata's character - her unresolved feelings for Naruto was the last thing that needed to be taken care of for Kishimoto to be essentially finished with her character in terms of plot relevance. He resolved her family issues in the part one in one arc, and then resolved the second issue with her character in part two (which was not an issue that was even introduced in part two, but left over from part one). The fact that Naruto has not thought of the confession once, that after discovering she was alright, has not thought of Hinata in a singular way (always as part of a group), the fact that Hinata has barely said or done anything since confession, and the fact that Hinata's feelings for Naruto have not been brought up again at all (not even a blush when she and Naruto were in close proximity as is normally the case) all seem to support that NH was all about Hinata, and now that she's confessed, it's resolved in the story.

I agreed with you completely until the bolded part - NH does have a slim chance still because Naruto hasn't outright rejected Hinata, Kishi did bother to have her have that grand confession, and then he managed to have Naruto and Sakura have that botched confession, also indicating through other characters statements that Sakura seems to still love Sasuke.

However - it wouldn't be because of any DBZ parallels.
1) Consider Chichi's personality. Even as a child, when she was blushing and coy around Goku, she acted much more like Sakura did around Sasuke then Hinata did around Naruto (who could barely get out a sentence, let alone ask things like, "Will you miss me too?"). As an adult at the end of Dragonball and into the rest of the series, Chichi is clearly more like Sakura - a tsundere who will yell at and hit her husband for comical purposes, but still shows love for him.
2) Even though Chichi is a minor side character (like Hinata), there is a crucial difference that you are forgetting. Goku never had a love interest himself in the entire series. The lead female was quite a bit older than him (5 years I believe?), and he never showed any signs of romantic interest in her or ANY girl until Chichi came along at the 23rd World Tournament and reminded him that he had promised to marry her.

Naruto has been in love with Sakura for the whole series, feelings and a relationship that Kishi has touched upon more consistently than any other hetero bond in the series.

To be honest, I don't believe that Sakura is still in love with Sasuke - I think that either what she felt for him was never true romantic love in the first place, or she has already started falling out of love with him and only has lingering feelings for the person that Sasuke USED to be.

Note that Kishimoto hasn't has Sakura ONCE say or think ANYTHING about her feelings for Sasuke. Unlike Naruto and Hinata's direct confirmations of their romantic feelings in part two, Sakura's only direct confirmation came from part one.

In fact, in regards towards feelings for Sasuke, she's always been more concerned about defending Naruto's feelings for him than her own in part two (Sakura defended and explained Naruto's feelings for Sasuke to Sai, not her own. Sakura yelled at Sasuke, nothing about her own feelings for him, but about NARUTO'S feelings for Sasuke.

This conspicuous lack of direct confirmation from Sakura doesn't seem odd to any of you?

Also, recall that when she was told about the rookies' decision to kill Sasuke, did Kishimoto show her thinking of Sasuke at all? No - he chose to show her thinking ONLY of Naruto and the pain that she's caused him. Naruto was not the one in immediate physical danger - Sasuke was, and yet, she was more worried about Naruto than Sasuke. I think that says a lot.

So yes, while Sakura's feelings are still up in the air - if Sakura is supposed to still be in love with Sasuke, I feel that Kishimoto has done a horrible job of showing that to us.

Notice again that Sakura was thinking about Sasuke as he was before he defected. Why can't the flashbacks show that her love for who Sasuke USED to be is what held her back from making the killing blow? Kakashi told Sakura that Sasuke wasn't the same person, Karin told Sakura that Sasuke wasn't the same person, and Sakura herself thought that Sasuke wasn't the same person he used to be.

Quite a lot of emphasis on Sasuke no longer being the person that he was - hence, Sasuke is no longer the person that Sakura loved. And while I'm sure that he will be redeemed, Sasuke can never really return to the person he was at 12/13 because of what he's experienced since then. Just as Naruto and Sakura cannot return to the people they were at that age either.

So while Sakura's flashback and inability to kill Sasuke support the theory that Sakura still loves Sasuke, they don't prove it conclusively. When you take into account some of her other behavior, you start to see actions that are incompatible with the notion Sakura still loving Sasuke (like thinking only of Naruto when she learned Sasuke was going to die, and yelling at Sasuke about Naruto's feelings when he attacked Naruto verbally (when she didn't say or do anything when he attacked Kakashi in a similar manner verbally).

Honestly, what has Sakura done for Sasuke that shows her romantic love that she HASN'T done for Naruto?

She's blushed around both of them (due to admiration and attraction).
She's hugged both of them (twice).
She's cried over both of them (though Naruto and Sasuke's reactions to that were markedly different).
She's worried over both of them.
She's given both of them encouraging words and fond smiles.
She's shown a similar desire to protect both of them.
She's defended both of them verbally from others (and angrily at that).
Sakura's desperate run to curse seal Sasuke in comparison to her desperate run to KN4 Naruto.
She's flirted with both of them (though with Naruto it was more playful and less fangirlish).
She's confessed to both of them.

The only thing on that list Sakura hasn't done for Naruto (if my memory serves correctly) is outright fan girling and a perverted thought (her thinking it would be okay if Sasuke tried to pee in front of her in the forest of death).

While it's not proven, I strongly believe that Sakura was apologizing for her plan to kill Sasuke. She knew (as Sai stated) how much it would hurt him and that she believed Naruto would likely hate her for such an action. This is supported by Sai's conversation with Naruto after her confession, and Sakura's next words after thinking, "I'm sorry Naruto" - it's her asking Kiba to help her find Sasuke.



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Posted 31 March 2011 - 04:52 PM

Wow, I love your post Paptala and I completely agree with all of it.

Now, if there is something I wanna know is:
Did Kishi really trolled NaruSaku or is this just another excuse by some butthurt fans?
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Pairings:
Naruto: NaruSaku, (Fem)NaruSaku, NaruSasu (as brothers, rivals, best friends), ShikaTema, NaruInoSaku, NaruHarem (excluding Hinata), MinaKushi, ChouIno, YahiKona
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Pairings:
Naruto: NaruSakuHina, SakuHina, NaruTayu, KibaHina, SakuKarin
Bleach: IchiHime

Characters:
Naruto: Hinata, Tayuya, Karin, Itachi
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Pairings:
Naruto: SasuSaku, NaruHina, NaruSasu (as gay lovers), KakaSaku, SasuAnyone, ShikaIno

Characters:
Naruto: Sasuke, Madara, "fanon" Hinata (not to be confused with canon Hinata), Kabuto
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Posted 31 March 2011 - 06:00 PM

Trolling someone implies that hes sitting at his desk laughing maniacally at all the silly little pairing fans as he relishes his little joke.

As I dont see Kishimoto sensei doing such a thing the answer would have to be no.

Kishimoto sensei is writing a story that has its twists and turns and characters and developments. The romance hes written is slow and stead like a long slow walk. one in which we get to see the characters talk to each other and discover each other as they go.

So I suggest just sitting back and enjoying the ride which we all hope will have a nice satisfying conclusion.

And if anything the pairing he trolled was NaruHina with its bright shiney confession which went a grand whopping total of ...

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#2330 Miss Soupy

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 09:53 PM

Did Kishi really trolled NaruSaku or is this just another excuse by some butthurt fans?

I wouldn't really, deep down, say he trolled NaruSaku, or any other pairing for that matter. It's more of a term thrown around jokingly I think... I would say that, compared to the other NS development we have had, the 'confession' wasn't exactly expected. To this day I find the whole thing pretty out of character for Sakura, regardless of if it was good or bad for NS. I didn't like how he handled her in that entire arc, to be honest, and thus it is hard (for me) to support what he did there. Really, I have no problem with back-stepping or throwing a wrench into things, as long as it has good purpose and a nice completion once the issue is fixed. However, with Kishi, I can't be fully guaranteed he will even touch on it again given what his priorities are. I don't think NS had ever been too overly guaranteed that he needed to put doubt on it the way he did. Was Kishi trying to cover-up his chosen pairing? It's possible, I don't really know for sure. What was the true major point being shown during the confession? My thought is that it was Sakura was giving up on Sasuke, thus Naruto stood alone. Perhaps the confession had a lot less to do with pairings and more to do with the fact that it would be Naruto who was unwavering about Sasuke and that he alone would take care of him.

Given the choice between pairing development and setting up the Naruto - Sasuke bond finale, I think Kishi probably cares more for the latter.

#2331 ShippudenGirl

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Posted 01 April 2011 - 01:46 AM

Oh, how I hate pairings sometimes. Gets shot. I don't think it should be this hard to figure out who likes who; I mean, the point to Kishimoto's Manga isn't pairings (obviously) but he, most likely, is keeping the "main" pairing until the end because of the fandoms and how people would stop reading it, or so I heard.

#2332 The Tax-Man

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Posted 01 April 2011 - 04:29 AM

Yeah I thought that too. That arc was more about Naruto and Sasuke fighting.

And yeah, I'd do that too if I were him.

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#2333 lelouch the lord

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Posted 01 April 2011 - 09:17 PM

hey guys, i have a small problem. ever since the confession, i have been a little suspicious of sakura. i understand that she does really care for naruto and i really love narusaku, but for some reason, i can't shake my suspicion. someone help me please?

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Posted 01 April 2011 - 09:22 PM

Well. Why suspicion?? no need for it. the only fear in my mind is, is that when she goes to tell him she loves him, naruto will reject because he would feel he doesnt deserve her...

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#2335 lelouch the lord

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Posted 01 April 2011 - 09:27 PM

my fear stems from two possibilities.
1. sakura merely using naruto's feelings for her.
2. sakura not really loving him.

Edited by lelouch the lord, 01 April 2011 - 09:28 PM.


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Posted 01 April 2011 - 09:47 PM

hmm.. im sorta thinking that it may end like that show: Avatar: the last airbender

but whao.~ HER NOT REALLLY LOVING HIM? well. i see you point. this could all be a diversion to get to sasuke. but i think if this happens, at the end she probably will realize whats right to do...

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Posted 01 April 2011 - 10:00 PM

QUOTE (lelouch the lord @ Apr 1 2011, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
my fear stems from two possibilities.
1. sakura merely using naruto's feelings for her.
2. sakura not really loving him.


Sakura felt that she had been the one to hurt Naruto the most. She herself said she didn't want to make another mistake. Her lying about loving him would be the worst mistake she could make, in my opinion. She wouldn't have said what she did if she hadn't meant it.

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Posted 01 April 2011 - 10:27 PM

Sakura's 'objective' ,if you will, was to relieve Naruto of the burden she felt she had placed on him, atonement. Now, how could she accomplish that if she decided to manipulate Naruto and 'use' his feelings for her. Kind of defeats the purpose, doesn't it?

It's as cnving said, Sakura was resolved to no longer make mistakes. In that case, her confession being a complete tall story would have gone against that resolve.

But think about it from this side; she was willing to give up any chance she could've had with Naruto to ensure his safety. She would rather have Naruto live and hate her for the rest of his life, than to have to watch him die trying to fufill this promise that he feels obligated to do. THAT is a sacrifice, one I consider to be on equal footing with Naruto's 'Promise of a Lifetime'.

Edited by Quinny52, 01 April 2011 - 10:28 PM.

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#2339 lelouch the lord

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Posted 01 April 2011 - 10:28 PM

so she thinks that she caused him the most pain and she thinks that those moments she hurt him were her mistakes, and by not making another mistake, she wants to avoid hurting him and make him happy?

Do I have that right? sorry, I'm not usually this confused.

but i hope that your right. and from her actions after the confession, I'm assuming you are.

Edited by lelouch the lord, 01 April 2011 - 10:30 PM.


#2340 lelouch the lord

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Posted 01 April 2011 - 10:48 PM

qunicy52, cnving101, thanks for clearing that up for me.




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