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[Liu bie]

Godzilla vs. Gamera was already done....Godzilla owned him, bwahahahaha! XD

That the only fight I will say that should have not happened.

 

Did you watch Digimon VS Pokemon.

[totherpage95]

 

photo evidence of my victory

Edited by totherpage95, 19 January 2016 - 11:10 PM.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

That the only fight I will say that should have not happened.

 

Did you watch Digimon VS Pokemon.

Yeah, and of course, a lot of Pokemon fans trying to call foul on anything they can think of.

The Charizard and Greymon lines both still being my favorites from their respective franchises, so I didn't care who won, but for anyone who knows anything about the two universes, Digimon winning was no surprise at all as it was a mismatch from the beginning by allowing all of Greymon's Digivolutions up to Wargreymon. If it had been limited to just Greymon and no further, then the battle would be harder to tell, but Metalgreymon (who wasn't used, strangely enough), much less Wargreymon (who alone would be more powerful than a dozen Greymon and a number of Metalgreymon) would make it entirely lopsided in their favor when you consider how much more powerful each subsequent Digivolution tends to be for a Digimon, especially if they're of higher tiers.

[Liu bie]

Yeah, and of course, a lot of Pokemon fans trying to call foul on anything they can think of.

The Charizard and Greymon lines both still being my favorites from their respective franchises, so I didn't care who won, but for anyone who knows anything about the two universes, Digimon winning was no surprise at all as it was a mismatch from the beginning by allowing all of Greymon's Digivolutions up to Wargreymon. If it had been limited to just Greymon and no further, then the battle would be harder to tell, but Metalgreymon (who wasn't used, strangely enough), much less Wargreymon (who alone would be more powerful than a dozen Greymon and a number of Metalgreymon) would make it entirely lopsided in their favor when you consider how much more powerful each subsequent Digivolution tends to be for a Digimon, especially if they're of higher tiers.

Good answer. By the way the death of Red and Charizard should have been sadder, but in the end Death Battle decided  not put that.

 

Many youtubers were salty and many gave a good and neutral reaction I was having fun.

 

https://youtu.be/aZhpGcLq1n8

 

 

 

I saw some of them the were reacting to Alphamon Vs Omegamon from Digimon Tri  I was like lol when they said that no wonder Pokemon lost XD

Edited by Liu bie, 20 January 2016 - 05:16 AM.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

Good answer. By the way the death of Red and Charizard should have been sadder, but in the end Death Battle decided  not put that.

 

Many youtubers were salty and many gave a good and neutral reaction I was having fun.

 

https://youtu.be/aZhpGcLq1n8

 

 

 

I saw some of them the were reacting to Alphamon Vs Omegamon from Digimon Tri  I was like lol when they said that no wonder Pokemon lost XD

I did lol when Tai socks Red and Red is all "WTF?!"  XD

[Liu bie]

I did lol when Tai socks Red and Red is all "WTF?!"  XD

Many didn't understood why Tai hit Red. XD

 

By bond, do you think Ash should have had a chance than Red?

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

Many didn't understood why Tai hit Red. XD

 

By bond, do you think Ash should have had a chance than Red?

Honestly, I agree with Death Battle's assessment in that no matter how the trainers and Pokemon may actually get along on the outside, the overall "relationship", based purely on how the Pokemon universe works. is still "master and slave" because of the Pokemon being tethered to the trainer via the Pokeball and such. I mean, sure, there are times when Pokemon who aren't well-trained can be rebellious (Pikachu at first, Charmeleon/Charizard with Ash, and so on) and even rare moments where a Pokemon rejects its trainer (like Charmander early in the series), but I'm certain those, at least the rejection bit, are extremely rare exceptions and not the rule. And even with poorly trained Pokemon being rebellious, that's really as far as they go; not doing everything the trainer says, but they don't just up and leave them either.

Digimon, on the other hand, choose their partners and are on equal ground with them (despite being able to easily kill them if they wanted), and if one or the other wanted to, they could just walk away and that's that. There's nothing to keep them tethered except bonds of trust and friendship or, in Wormmon's case with Ken as the Digimon Emperor in Digimon Adventure 02, hope and wanting to save them. I think the friendship angle was shown quite well in 02 with the "Storm of Friendship" episode where David is constantly at odds over attacking the controlled Metalgreymon in order to save him from Ken's control, but Tai (and Matt) knew it had to be done, even if it hurt them to do so too, lest he ends up hurting who-knows-how-many-other Digimon while under Ken's control. And when Flamedramon asks David if he would save him like Tai and Matt were trying to save Metalgreymon, David couldn't answer, which really put Flamedramon off and even making him de-digivolve back into Veemon.

So, I don't think it really would have mattered if it were Ash's Charizard or Red's Charizard, it would not have made much of a difference in the friendship angle. While trust and friendship does make the relationship between Pokemon and trainer more effective (like that one episode in Johto, IIRC, with Ash and Heracross against a guy and his Scizor who relied purely on computer calculations for making predictions in battles until Ash and Heracross completely throw them for a loop because of that trust and friendship), it doesn't really translate into literal power without some sort of magic or something involved whereas Digimon literally can become stronger from their bonds of friendship and trust with their partners and each other, like how Garurumon was able to heal Wargreymon's injuries from fighting Piedmon by himself until he and Matt arrived to help, or how, against Apocalyomon, the Digimon were still able to digivolve despite the physical crests being destroyed due to the power being inside of them from their bonds with their Digimon.

[Liu bie]

Honestly, I agree with Death Battle's assessment in that no matter how the trainers and Pokemon may actually get along on the outside, the overall "relationship", based purely on how the Pokemon universe works. is still "master and slave" because of the Pokemon being tethered to the trainer via the Pokeball and such. I mean, sure, there are times when Pokemon who aren't well-trained can be rebellious (Pikachu at first, Charmeleon/Charizard with Ash, and so on) and even rare moments where a Pokemon rejects its trainer (like Charmander early in the series), but I'm certain those, at least the rejection bit, are extremely rare exceptions and not the rule. And even with poorly trained Pokemon being rebellious, that's really as far as they go; not doing everything the trainer says, but they don't just up and leave them either.

Digimon, on the other hand, choose their partners and are on equal ground with them (despite being able to easily kill them if they wanted), and if one or the other wanted to, they could just walk away and that's that. There's nothing to keep them tethered except bonds of trust and friendship or, in Wormmon's case with Ken as the Digimon Emperor in Digimon Adventure 02, hope and wanting to save them. I think the friendship angle was shown quite well in 02 with the "Storm of Friendship" episode where David is constantly at odds over attacking the controlled Metalgreymon in order to save him from Ken's control, but Tai (and Matt) knew it had to be done, even if it hurt them to do so too, lest he ends up hurting who-knows-how-many-other Digimon while under Ken's control. And when Flamedramon asks David if he would save him like Tai and Matt were trying to save Metalgreymon, David couldn't answer, which really put Flamedramon off and even making him de-digivolve back into Veemon.

So, I don't think it really would have mattered if it were Ash's Charizard or Red's Charizard, it would not have made much of a difference in the friendship angle. While trust and friendship does make the relationship between Pokemon and trainer more effective (like that one episode in Johto, IIRC, with Ash and Heracross against a guy and his Scizor who relied purely on computer calculations for making predictions in battles until Ash and Heracross completely throw them for a loop because of that trust and friendship), it doesn't really translate into literal power without some sort of magic or something involved whereas Digimon literally can become stronger from their bonds of friendship and trust with their partners and each other, like how Garurumon was able to heal Wargreymon's injuries from fighting Piedmon by himself until he and Matt arrived to help, or how, against Apocalyomon, the Digimon were still able to digivolve despite the physical crests being destroyed due to the power being inside of them from their bonds with their Digimon.

      to this.

 

This was a good battle and really want to see another one in the future, of course different Digimon and Pokemon. Everything was enjoyable even the track Mashup Digimon-Pokemon.

 

 

By the way I sent you PM, let see if you like my idea.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

Yeah, unfortunately, a lot of the comments are of people who can't seem to just have fun with the match-ups unless their favorite wins.

I still see people flaming and bashing each other over Goku vs. Superman.

I can accept Superman winning, but I'll still see Goku as the more interesting character because of the fact that he has limits that he manages to overcome whereas Superman is even pretty much said to be able to be stronger than anyone based on the whim of the writer, no matter how powerful the opponent, thus limitless. It's something some people wondered about when the Thor movie was coming out; how do you make a god an interesting character? Well, they stripped Thor of his godly power and status, then had him exiled to Earth where he now had tons of limits that he never had, both physically and emotionally, and so he had to earn back the worthiness of that godly power.

[Liu bie]

Yeah, unfortunately, a lot of the comments are of people who can't seem to just have fun with the match-ups unless their favorite wins.

I still see people flaming and bashing each other over Goku vs. Superman.

I can accept Superman winning, but I'll still see Goku as the more interesting character because of the fact that he has limits that he manages to overcome whereas Superman is even pretty much said to be able to be stronger than anyone based on the whim of the writer, no matter how powerful the opponent, thus limitless. It's something some people wondered about when the Thor movie was coming out; how do you make a god an interesting character? Well, they stripped Thor of his godly power and status, then had him exiled to Earth where he now had tons of limits that he never had, both physically and emotionally, and so he had to earn back the worthiness of that godly power.

Agree.

 

My thoughts about these two is neutral I don't hate them, but they are not my favorite or I am not fan of their shows. Either way I saw why Superman lost.

 

Note: Death battle got wrong the fact that Goku has not kill a god and they still  alive. 

[TheFlash]

OK here we go

[Nar123]

OK here we go

 

yep...to my victory

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

A toast to me! XD

[TheFlash]

Comes back 10 years later. Did I finally win

[TheFlash]

Comes back 10 years later. Did I finally win?

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

Nope.  <<    >>   XD

[Nar123]

yeah

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

Yep.

[Fyuria'sLeo]

I am here to say I win

[TheFlash]

I'm here to actually win XD