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[Bail o' Lies]

That whole sudden leap in technology is also stupid when you think back to how Kishi refused to have any sort of firearms created when, in reality, during the age of the samurai and ninja in Japan, early black powder firearms had already been in use throughout the rest of the world for around 100 years, and when they finally started to be taken up by Japan in the late 1800s (where bolt action rifles and the Maxim machine gun were starting to take hold while repeater rifles, revolvers, gatling guns, etc. were the rage), the samurai and ninja were just mowed down, and so even with all the ninja powers, the only ones who would really be able to survive such things in the long-run would be Naruto and Sasuke, and that's ONLY against more basic ones and face-to-face (as a good rifleman could easily take them out with a head or heart shot from a distance and while hidden) or just roll in a bunch of gatling guns, cannons, etc.

So to have such a huge leap in technology and all and yet NOT in methods of fighting (which, even if one or more of the Kages prohibited it, it would NOT stop those interested in it from still doing so, like we saw the scientist guy with the chakra devices) is just completely stupid and it shows that Kishi didn't actually plan/think things out and/or he's just that stupid in thinking that we would actually believe that Naruto could bring about such a thing with "true peace" and crap.

The lack of firearms made sense. One for ascetics its a ninja world not a gunslinger world. Two technology is develop to make life easier, to improve ones lives, or to do something one couldn't do before. It like in fantasy setting why would a mage have a gun when they can just launch dozens of giant fireballs every few seconds.

[rocci]

@halfdemonunuyasha
I agree with bail regarding firearm.

If firearm exist in naruto manga, Kishi will either make firearm irrelevant by buffing the ninja like gun in op and hxh, or it will make ninja irrelevant just like in real life.

Personally I would rather have firearm in burito or naruto sequel, and introducing the technology>ninja. It would make ninja obsolete since they're few and expensive thus having peasant with firearm is more better than having ninja.

[VanitasDS76491]

@halfdemonunuyasha
I agree with bail regarding firearm.
If firearm exist in naruto manga, Kishi will either make firearm irrelevant by buffing the ninja like gun in op and hxh, or it will make ninja irrelevant just like in real life.
Personally I would rather have firearm in burito or naruto sequel, and introducing the technology>ninja. It would make ninja obsolete since they're few and expensive thus having peasant with firearm is more better than having ninja.

In the original naruto plot chapter there were guns in there. Also I rewatched X-Men apocalypse yesterday and I found alot of things I noticed with orochimaru in apocalypse only lamer. The sound four are basically his four horseman and kimmairo is the fifth horseman, kabuto is mister sinister and he even does the whole transfer ritual the only apocalypse is better since his new last til he dies and it gets to weak and can do it any time where orochimaru is stuck in a useless body of three years. Also did naruto let five people letting him go cause he have to transfer five times after the war.

[Bail o' Lies]

Vanitas the Naruto plot was set in modern day. So of course they would have guns. There was one gun in Naruto a shotgun on the store clerk desk during the wave arc. Before kishimoto decided to go with the no gun policy for the story.

 

rocci. It the same as why cars don't seem to exist and trains only exist in the first movie (which kishimoto hated.) Why have a piece of technology do some they can already do much better. Originally the native american thought the guns the Europeans traded them were worthless (since they could shoot farther, faster, and with more accuracy with a bow and arrow) compared to steel knives. So even if cars were invented when they put up this

against a ninja. The ninja seems far more effective with running on tree tops for travel and caring scrolls for storage then this hunk of junk.

 

Then again the only plot this sequel has going for (that is not a retread of a Naruto plot) is Ninja magic v technology.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 13 February 2017 - 12:16 PM.

[VanitasDS76491]

Vanitas the Naruto plot was set in modern day. So of course they would have guns. There was one gun in Naruto a shotgun on the store clerk desk during the wave arc. Before kishimoto decided to go with the no gun policy for the story.
 
rocci. It the same as why cars don't seem to exist and trains only exist in the first movie (which kishimoto hated.) Why have a piece of technology do some they can already do much better. Originally the native american thought the guns the Europeans traded them were worthless (since they could shoot farther, faster, and with more accuracy with a bow and arrow) compared to steel knives. So even if cars were invented when they put up this

against a ninja. The ninja seems far more effective with running on tree tops for travel and caring scrolls for storage then this hunk of junk.
 
Then again the only plot this sequel has going for (that is not a retread of a Naruto plot) is Ninja magic v technology.

I'm just point out there were guns in naruto before. Power rangers held the magic vs technology better especially in zeo. Ya naruto is just retreading the original which so how unoriginal they are just soft rebooting everything. Tech advancements are biting naruto in the ass now.

[Moon_Girl]

Why are you surprised they don't care about Neji? They barely care about the plot or Naruto.

 

I'm not surprised. It's just a realization that tends to come around and around. There's so many things wrong about the Naruto ending, sometimes I can't keep up. 
After the ending and knowing it's all Hinaturd and her pack of mindless fans' fault, my hatred has been boiled down to Hinaturd.

[Yyubie]

That whole sudden leap in technology is also stupid when you think back to how Kishi refused to have any sort of firearms created when, in reality, during the age of the samurai and ninja in Japan, early black powder firearms had already been in use throughout the rest of the world for around 100 years, and when they finally started to be taken up by Japan in the late 1800s (where bolt action rifles and the Maxim machine gun were starting to take hold while repeater rifles, revolvers, gatling guns, etc. were the rage), the samurai and ninja were just mowed down, and so even with all the ninja powers, the only ones who would really be able to survive such things in the long-run would be Naruto and Sasuke, and that's ONLY against more basic ones and face-to-face (as a good rifleman could easily take them out with a head or heart shot from a distance and while hidden) or just roll in a bunch of gatling guns, cannons, etc.

So to have such a huge leap in technology and all and yet NOT in methods of fighting (which, even if one or more of the Kages prohibited it, it would NOT stop those interested in it from still doing so, like we saw the scientist guy with the chakra devices) is just completely stupid and it shows that Kishi didn't actually plan/think things out and/or he's just that stupid in thinking that we would actually believe that Naruto could bring about such a thing with "true peace" and crap.

If i remember Naruto have laptop right? he use it to send chunnin exam entry message to Boruto in Boruto movie, and Boruto have some sort of cell phone .... you know those 2 require Satellite to be launch in space .... from sword and kunai in just about 15 years the tech advance into Laptop !!??!? Maybe in Boruto manga/anime they gonna make some kind of B.S arc about why technology advance so fast , and if they can make laptop that means they already know how to make Nuclear/Atomic bomb .... there's no logic left in this manga ...

[TheFirstEvil100]

Sheesh. Knowing how little Hinaturd cares about Neji's sacrifice hacks me off. He ended up dying due to the 'destiny' that he was supposed to avoid and Hinaturd doesn't even notice it. Or at least doesn't care.
>Hey my cousin died due to the bad Hyuuga cycle, saving my sorry hide.
>Oh well. Naruto koooooon <3333

Hinaturd should have been the one killed. I really wish she had.

Well you know that many all cheered when Neji was killed saying that that is what he gets for what he did to Hinata so long ago in part 1, this just shows that to them the only one that mattered was just Hinata.

 

But its why in this story I am working on Hinata will die in my corpse party/Naruto crossover called Naruto ever after I won't say how she dies only she will lose her mind and try to kill all the girls she meets.

[Aevrum]

If i remember Naruto have laptop right? he use it to send chunnin exam entry message to Boruto in Boruto movie, and Boruto have some sort of cell phone .... you know those 2 require Satellite to be launch in space .... from sword and kunai in just about 15 years the tech advance into Laptop !!??!? Maybe in Boruto manga/anime they gonna make some kind of B.S arc about why technology advance so fast , and if they can make laptop that means they already know how to make Nuclear/Atomic bomb .... there's no logic left in this manga ...

Actually you don't need satellites for communication, 'only' knowledge about the Maxwell Laws physics-wise and great progress in information-theory (Shannon). It's the equivalent of the 1970s in 'our' timeline. That would technically actually very well possible in a parallel world, happening pretty fast and before other technological advancements, we had way before it in our 'real' timeline.
And thinking back at the old-school televisions and antennas we were shown in the original series (preliminaries and after the Kage summit), it would very well fit with 'our'
progress speed.

The biggest technological piece in Boruto/Gaiden which doesn't fit is actually the small size of the technology and most importantly the displays.
That is some pretty high-tech stuff that can't happen so fast compared to the technological status in the original series and which would need inventions in other technical and scientific areas to build, which we KNOW, that there was none of it in the Narutoverse.

[VanitasDS76491]

Well you know that many all cheered when Neji was killed saying that that is what he gets for what he did to Hinata so long ago in part 1, this just shows that to them the only one that mattered was just Hinata.
 
But its why in this story I am working on Hinata will die in my corpse party/Naruto crossover called Naruto ever after I won't say how she dies only she will lose her mind and try to kill all the girls she meets.

And more brutal ways in those other stories you and I have talked about like Sakura giving hinata zorin' s death in hellsing in maybe the team 7 story when hinata is a overbuff majin version of herself.

[LuckyChi7]

Currently playing through Uncharted 4 after finishing The Nathan Drake collection, and that kinda got me wondering..  Who do you think if the best father figure character, Jiraiya  or Sully from Uncharted?

[VanitasDS76491]

Currently playing through Uncharted 4 after finishing The Nathan Drake collection, and that kinda got me wondering..  Who do you think if the best father figure character, Jiraiya  or Sully from Uncharted?

Sully hands down he was there for nate through most of his life jiraya only showed up by random. How is uncharted 4 I've heard it's great and the ending was amazing to nate' s story. Also nate and Elena are the best couple in video games or up there in the category.

[LuckyChi7]

Sully hands down he was there for nate through most of his life jiraya only showed up by random. How is uncharted 4 I've heard it's great and the ending was amazing to nate' s story. Also nate and Elena are the best couple in video games or up there in the category.

I'd agree.

As far as the game goes for Uncharted 4.. I've only played up to Chapter 7, and so far it's really good and has a thought provoking plot behind it.

I'll update my thoughts on the story once I'm done with it.. so far Uncharted 3 is my personal favorite, but that may change once I finish the story of Uncharted 4.

Edited by LuckyChi7, 14 February 2017 - 02:39 AM.

[VanitasDS76491]

I'd agree.
As far as the game goes for Uncharted 4.. I've only played up to Chapter 7, and so far it's really good and has a thought provoking plot behind it.
I'll update my thoughts on the story once I'm done with it.. so far Uncharted 3 is my personal favorite, but that may change once I finish the story of Uncharted 4.

Ya I like all the uncharted it's a series that better with each game. 3 is my favorite followed by 2 since I haven't played 4 yet.

[LuckyChi7]

3 years since the Naruto ending since NaruSaku didn't become canon...since Kishi essentially sold out. 

 

 

Am I still upset that NaruSaku aren't canon yes.  Though, in a strange way I'm kinda glad that it didn't just knowing what the series has become since that ending came out.. Sure I didn't mind that NaruHina became canon even with the ending, but that completely changed once I saw The Last and boy that ultimately made me realize how stupid that pairing was. I'm not even gonna mention SasuSaku because we all know how stupid that pairing turned out especailly in Gaiden like wow no words spoken. 

 

Then it got me wondering if NaruSaku became the way NaruHina did in The Last or how they were treated like SasuSaku did in Gaiden basically swapped places with both and told the same storyling style would it really have been worth all the investment we spent as a community not just for NaruSaku, but for Naruto and Sakura individually?

 

So far I'm keeping tabs on the Tokai's doujin on The Last and so far it hasn't disappointed, and I hope the quality continues, right now as far as that goes the biggest fear is that damn genjutsu scene I'm sorry, but that's a kitten way for two people to fall in love. You guys get my point though lol.

 

 

Despite the ending, The Last, and Gaiden (to some degree)  I still love the characters that Naruto and Sakura were, and I'll admit and say this they weren't my first OTP. That honor belongs to Haru x Ellie from Rave Master which did become canon, and whatever spark I saw in them I saw in Naruto and Sakura as well, and I've honored that in the fanfics I wrote (which I should get back to), and the book i've been writing for a long time and to say the very least I'm on the final act of the book (roughly 25% left), and I've implemented a pairing that's like NaruSaku in my story since I came up with the concept while i was coming up with character backgrounds. The only difference i'd say between NS and the pairing in my book is that mine's a more realistic approach. When that book will become a reality?, my hope is towards this fall or this winter at the latest. Though editing is probably gonna be my biggest concern after the writing process is complete. 

 

 

 

I hope you all are having a great valentines day, and always remember just cause Kishi didn't make NaruSaku canon doesn't mean that we can't in our own projects be it ovas, amvs, fanfics, doujins, or even your own personal novel.  

 

Edited by LuckyChi7, 14 February 2017 - 02:33 PM.

[Yyubie]

I just hope no one post NH wedding image/gif here (at least put spoiler tag in it) .... is that episode aired yet? or is it this week? ..... Tumblr and Youtube NH fans going explode with orgasm, especially forneverworld and sawyer.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

3 years since the Naruto ending since NaruSaku didn't become canon...since Kishi essentially sold out. 

 

 

Am I still upset that NaruSaku aren't canon yes.  Though, in a strange way I'm kinda glad that it didn't just knowing what the series has become since that ending came out.. Sure I didn't mind that NaruHina became canon even with the ending, but that completely changed once I saw The Last and boy that ultimately made me realize how stupid that pairing was. I'm not even gonna mention SasuSaku because we all know how stupid that pairing turned out especailly in Gaiden like wow no words spoken. 

 

Then it got me wondering if NaruSaku became the way NaruHina did in The Last or how they were treated like SasuSaku did in Gaiden basically swapped places with both and told the same storyling style would it really have been worth all the investment we spent as a community not just for NaruSaku, but for Naruto and Sakura individually?

 

So far I'm keeping tabs on the Tokai's doujin on The Last and so far it hasn't disappointed, and I hope the quality continues, right now as far as that goes the biggest fear is that damn genjutsu scene I'm sorry, but that's a kitten way for two people to fall in love. You guys get my point though lol.

 

 

Despite the ending, The Last, and Gaiden (to some degree)  I still love the characters that Naruto and Sakura were, and I'll admit and say this they weren't my first OTP. That honor belongs to Haru x Ellie from Rave Master which did become canon, and whatever spark I saw in them I saw in Naruto and Sakura as well, and I've honored that in the fanfics I wrote (which I should get back to), and the book i've been writing for a long time and to say the very least I'm on the final act of the book (roughly 25% left), and I've implemented a pairing that's like NaruSaku in my story since I came up with the concept while i was coming up with character backgrounds. The only difference i'd say between NS and the pairing in my book is that mine's a more realistic approach. When that book will become a reality?, my hope is towards this fall or this winter at the latest. Though editing is probably gonna be my biggest concern after the writing process is complete. 

 

 

 

I hope you all are having a great valentines day, and always remember just cause Kishi didn't make NaruSaku canon doesn't mean that we can't in our own projects be it ovas, amvs, fanfics, doujins, or even your own personal novel.  

 

In hindsight, I, and I'm sure many others, are glad that NS didn't become canon now that we look and see just how contradicting, hypocritical, etc. the story was becoming ever since the end of the Pein Arc, if not even Kakuzu and Hidan (as brought up, it's somehow SO bad that Sasuke is bent on revenge and yet perfectly okay for Shikamaru, and even supported by others), as well as learning about just how biased for Hinata SP was and whatnot. We can now say for certain that even if SP (forced themselves to) had Kishi make NS the canon ending, there would have only been barely the minimum of effort put in for them, if not even purposely messed with it so even if they got together, it would look bad, like they would make Sakura look like she's simply using Naruto for a rebound for Sasuke rather than it being actual love, or Naruto would still "not know what love is" and suddenly "not understand" Sakura's feelings, and so on.

NS can say proudly and confidently that their canon is still "pure" whereas NH and SS have long since been exposed for the disgusting and/or abusive relationships they truly are, which is why NH/SS extremists need to troll NS forums/blogs/etc.; they themselves know it, but just can't admit it..

[VanitasDS76491]

3 years since the Naruto ending since NaruSaku didn't become canon...since Kishi essentially sold out. 
 
 
Am I still upset that NaruSaku aren't canon yes.  Though, in a strange way I'm kinda glad that it didn't just knowing what the series has become since that ending came out.. Sure I didn't mind that NaruHina became canon even with the ending, but that completely changed once I saw The Last and boy that ultimately made me realize how stupid that pairing was. I'm not even gonna mention SasuSaku because we all know how stupid that pairing turned out especailly in Gaiden like wow no words spoken. 
 
Then it got me wondering if NaruSaku became the way NaruHina did in The Last or how they were treated like SasuSaku did in Gaiden basically swapped places with both and told the same storyling style would it really have been worth all the investment we spent as a community not just for NaruSaku, but for Naruto and Sakura individually?
 
So far I'm keeping tabs on the Tokai's doujin on The Last and so far it hasn't disappointed, and I hope the quality continues, right now as far as that goes the biggest fear is that damn genjutsu scene I'm sorry, but that's a kitten way for two people to fall in love. You guys get my point though lol.
 
 
Despite the ending, The Last, and Gaiden (to some degree)  I still love the characters that Naruto and Sakura were, and I'll admit and say this they weren't my first OTP. That honor belongs to Haru x Ellie from Rave Master which did become canon, and whatever spark I saw in them I saw in Naruto and Sakura as well, and I've honored that in the fanfics I wrote (which I should get back to), and the book i've been writing for a long time and to say the very least I'm on the final act of the book (roughly 25% left), and I've implemented a pairing that's like NaruSaku in my story since I came up with the concept while i was coming up with character backgrounds. The only difference i'd say between NS and the pairing in my book is that mine's a more realistic approach. When that book will become a reality?, my hope is towards this fall or this winter at the latest. Though editing is probably gonna be my biggest concern after the writing process is complete. 
 
 
 
I hope you all are having a great valentines day, and always remember just cause Kishi didn't make NaruSaku canon doesn't mean that we can't in our own projects be it ovas, amvs, fanfics, doujins, or even your own personal novel.  
 

You fool why did you watch that steaming hunk of kitten and like James said I'm kind of glad ns isn't Canon given how the series has been going with kishi Miller ( if your wondering why I call him that, it's that kishi is the manga version of Frank Miller. You the guy who coined the goddamn batman meme and made holy terror the most racist comic ever). I'm worried about the river scene along with the hinata going with toneri and Sakura saying that riviarly line. Ever see Dr. Strangelove cause I want someone to do the ride the bomb thing in naruto were a bomb just drops on the leaf village and the guy laughs while in the bomb and destroys the village and everyone but sakura.

[VanitasDS76491]

I just hope no one post NH wedding image/gif here (at least put spoiler tag in it) .... is that episode aired yet? or is it this week? ..... Tumblr and Youtube NH fans going explode with orgasm, especially forneverworld and sawyer.

Oh you know they kittening will I've seen their thumbnails of it and fornever is the worse.

[LuckyChi7]

You fool why did you watch that steaming hunk of kitten and like James said I'm kind of glad ns isn't Canon given how the series has been going with kishi Miller ( if your wondering why I call him that, it's that kishi is the manga version of Frank Miller. You the guy who coined the goddamn batman meme and made holy terror the most racist comic ever). I'm worried about the river scene along with the hinata going with toneri and Sakura saying that riviarly line. Ever see Dr. Strangelove cause I want someone to do the ride the bomb thing in naruto were a bomb just drops on the leaf village and the guy laughs while in the bomb and destroys the village and everyone but sakura.

 

At the time i was just wondering how they were gonna pull it off, and two the most important reason was to do a review on my channel which i did, and I will say as kitten as the movie was, I had fun ripping it apart on the review. 

 

Dr.Strange love i vaguely remember it , but i know what you're referring to, and that would be hilarious.