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#2301 Heaven on Earth

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 07:44 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Jun 30 2012, 01:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LOL, one of naruto's desires is to sasuke return to konoha why u say only sakura?
learn to move on?
LOL, why should naruto to learn to move on, he just want to know who his parents are didnt he?

learn to move on is completely inadequate.

Plus this is a shounen and the current generation of shounen the teen and pre-teens does not want to know things like karma and stuff like that so you cant apply things like "hey they have to learn to move on"
the naruto's parents thing will only to make naruto stronger and know who his parents are after it he will reinforce his objective and carry on his parents wishes and dreams there's any stuff like hey u have to learn to move on.
pfft.


nah nah nah, gomen, but imo, naruto have a problem with that. Cant remember clearly, but the masked man said, "Love makes you weak."
... Something like that.
Look at the screenshot at some post before. Naruto looked ... something in the middle of sad and happiness when he saw the album. All the photos that showed his childhood with his family in this genjutsu world *the bday photo was the best*

again, In My Opinion, Naruto will find some comfort zone in this genjutsu world. He loves his family n miss his parents. In the summary, we already knew that before The Masked Man trapped him, Naruto was felt so lonely.

At the point when Naruto feel happy with this 'fake world', I dont think Naruto would easily out of genjutsu. He cant, cause maybe he wont.


Now with Sakura, we already annoyed at the lovernin chapter. It clearly showed us, that Sakura still hold little feelings for Sasuke, we dont know how big the feelings. Maybe as teammate, maybe as regrets cause Sasuke isn't good person.
But some of readers saw that scene as implication that Sakura still havent moved on.

This movie could be a prove, that even Sasuke turn good, Sakura would realize that something doesnt feel right.

Yes, Sakura's desire (when she's kid) is Sasuke being nice to her.
And no, Naruto never wished Sasuke as a flamboyant man. His biggest desire is his parents.

Thats why I agreed with MerryGOflava's statement.

Once again, it's my opinion.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 07:50 PM

I just noticed while watching that trailer in better quality that when they show Hokage mountain from a distance there are actually 5 faces on it and from the looks of it the 5th is still Tsunade while the 4th is definitely Daddy Haruno.

I'm starting to think that people might be right to assume that Sakura's parents might be dead in the genjutsu world in exchange for Naruto's parents. This might cause Sakura to have a better understanding as to what Naruto had to deal with when he was a kid. It could actually make them further develop their bond. It could also motivate Naruto to break the genjutsu so that Sakura can once again be with her parents. Now that Naruto understands the happiness that family brings he'll do everything he can so that Sakura can experience that joy again.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 07:54 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Jun 29 2012, 07:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LOL, one of naruto's desires is to sasuke return to konoha why u say only sakura?
learn to move on?
LOL, why should naruto to learn to move on, he just want to know who his parents are didnt he?

learn to move on is completely inadequate.

Plus this is a shounen and the current generation of shounen the teen and pre-teens does not want to know things like karma and stuff like that so you cant apply things like "hey they have to learn to move on"
the naruto's parents thing will only to make naruto stronger and know who his parents are after it he will reinforce his objective and carry on his parents wishes and dreams there's any stuff like hey u have to learn to move on.
pfft.


maybe your taking my post too seriously....XD......

i just meant this movie will probably be about certain things that you want but cant have.

im not trying to be deep about it biggrin.gif.....just giving the tip of the icberg.

and yes...i still think its about moving on :o learning to accept and understand.

naruto meets his parents....but knows its not real, but he goes along with it anyway....while....tobi is most likely taking his kyuubi. he doesnt want to accept reality.

same with sakura, she has sasuke all over her, something shes always wanted, but is that whats best for her?

....we can assume...naruto's parents will be good....but how do we know they arent just trying to stall naruto so tobi can get in?

>:o....or is it already confirmed that they have their own minds?

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 07:55 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Jun 29 2012, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just noticed while watching that trailer in better quality that when they show Hokage mountain from a distance there are actually 5 faces on it and from the looks of it the 5th is still Tsunade while the 4th is definitely Daddy Haruno.

I'm starting to think that people might be right to assume that Sakura's parents might be dead in the genjutsu world in exchange for Naruto's parents. This might cause Sakura to have a better understanding as to what Naruto had to deal with when he was a kid. It could actually make them further develop their bond. It could also motivate Naruto to break the genjutsu so that Sakura can once again be with her parents. Now that Naruto understands the happiness that family brings he'll do everything he can so that Sakura can experience that joy again.


Aw, you kinda posted what I was just thinking about.

Since Sakura is a normal girl IRL, maybe she has a tragic past in this genjutsu?

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 08:00 PM

QUOTE (Heaven on Earth @ Jun 29 2012, 07:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
nah nah nah, gomen, but imo, naruto have a problem with that. Cant remember clearly, but the masked man said, "Love makes you weak."
... Something like that.
Look at the screenshot at some post before. Naruto looked ... something in the middle of sad and happiness when he saw the album. All the photos that showed his childhood with his family in this genjutsu world *the bday photo was the best*

again, In My Opinion, Naruto will find some comfort zone in this genjutsu world. He loves his family n miss his parents. In the summary, we already knew that before The Masked Man trapped him, Naruto was felt so lonely.

At the point when Naruto feel happy with this 'fake world', I dont think Naruto would easily out of genjutsu. He cant, cause maybe he wont.


Now with Sakura, we already annoyed at the lovernin chapter. It clearly showed us, that Sakura still hold little feelings for Sasuke, we dont know how big the feelings. Maybe as teammate, maybe as regrets cause Sasuke isn't good person.
But some of readers saw that scene as implication that Sakura still havent moved on.

This movie could be a prove, that even Sasuke turn good, Sakura would realize that something doesnt feel right.

Yes, Sakura's desire (when she's kid) is Sasuke being nice to her.
And no, Naruto never wished Sasuke as a flamboyant man. His biggest desire is his parents.

Thats why I agreed with MerryGOflava's statement.

Once again, it's my opinion.

WTF!!!!
U say that it's not one of naruto's desires to sasuke come back to konoha srsly read the manga.
he do not wished to sasuke flirting sakura but he wishs that he back to konoha and sasuke is back, and i'm not sure that sakura's desire is sasuke flirting her because if was she would hug him right away or something, naruto's expression when he meets his parents confirms that.

Edited by dovahkiin, 29 June 2012 - 08:02 PM.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 08:03 PM

QUOTE (kirabook @ Jun 30 2012, 02:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Aw, you kinda posted what I was just thinking about.

Since Sakura is a normal girl IRL, maybe she has a tragic past in this genjutsu?


ehemmm, my imagination: her parents are dead

still ... why naruto wears the hokage robes if Tsunade (flat chested, with glasses in the eyes, n of course 'say no to sake') is the hokage?


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Posted 29 June 2012 - 08:04 PM

Dovahkiin, calm down. Everyone else is calming down, so you should also.

And enough with the bashing, everyone. Just agree to disagree and don't worry about what the other fandoms think.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 08:04 PM

QUOTE (Heaven on Earth @ Jun 29 2012, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ehemmm, my imagination: her parents are dead

still ... why naruto wears the hokage robes if Tsunade (flat chested, with glasses in the eyes, n of course 'say no to sake') is the hokage?


the robe is just a symbol of naruto inheriting his parents dreams.
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Posted 29 June 2012 - 08:04 PM

QUOTE (Heaven on Earth @ Jun 29 2012, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ehemmm, my imagination: her parents are dead

still ... why naruto wears the hokage robes if Tsunade (flat chested, with glasses in the eyes, n of course 'say no to sake') is the hokage?


Well, your parents dying and being left alone as a "hero" orphan is pretty tragic, just look at Naruto. I think their lives have been switched!

Edited by kirabook, 29 June 2012 - 08:06 PM.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 08:11 PM

another day on Heaven and Earth...

what I miss when I am working!! lol

There are really two choices for the people who panic daily

1-either Kishimoto planned Narusaku from the start

2-he is a way worse writer than I give him credit for

remember Naruto and Sakura are trapped in the genjutsu the only way out is for them to work together of course they won't show this and spoil the freakin' movie...


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Posted 29 June 2012 - 08:12 PM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Jun 29 2012, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
maybe your taking my post too seriously....XD......

i just meant this movie will probably be about certain things that you want but cant have.

im not trying to be deep about it biggrin.gif.....just giving the tip of the icberg.

and yes...i still think its about moving on :o learning to accept and understand.

naruto meets his parents....but knows its not real, but he goes along with it anyway....while....tobi is most likely taking his kyuubi. he doesnt want to accept reality.

same with sakura, she has sasuke all over her, something shes always wanted, but is that whats best for her?

....we can assume...naruto's parents will be good....but how do we know they arent just trying to stall naruto so tobi can get in?

>:o....or is it already confirmed that they have their own minds?


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Posted 29 June 2012 - 08:13 PM

QUOTE (Ani @ Jun 30 2012, 03:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dovahkiin, calm down. Everyone else is calming down, so you should also.

And enough with the bashing, everyone. Just agree to disagree and don't worry about what the other fandoms think.


thank you, ani-san

@dovahkiin
please, i think you misunderstood. All i want to say in my post is, Naruto 'biggest' desire is his parents. I didnt say that Naruto doesnt want Sasuke back to Konoha.
I said, Naruto (of course) didnt desire a very flamboyant Sasuke.

Sakura (once, when she's a kid) wants Sasuke being nice with her.

:/
oh my God, isnt my comment clear enough? T.T

@kirabook
yeah, Minato's and Kizashi's position was switch too.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 08:41 PM

QUOTE (Gammy Das @ Jun 29 2012, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That would mean that the SasuSaku and NaruHina parts were fan-service as well! Yeah! laugh.gif

Thankee, your post cheered me up! cool.gif

No problem. It's what I do.

By the way, here's a thought: can Tobi manipulate his genjutsu? I noticed that when they're in battle (AU world), I don't see anyone but the one who weren't genjutsu in the first place (Naruto and Sakura). It looks they're fighting in Konoha (Naruto vs Masked man). Can someone clear it up for me.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 08:59 PM

just watched the trailer and I can sum it up in one word

AWESOME!!!!!

I am glad we get some Kushina luv here to see her in a fight is great biggrin.gif

Tomorrow will be another good one I hope biggrin.gif


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Posted 29 June 2012 - 09:32 PM

Oh, I'm just now noticing Jiraiya was in the 1 min trailer!

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 09:38 PM

QUOTE (Heaven on Earth @ Jun 29 2012, 09:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thank you, ani-san

@dovahkiin
please, i think you misunderstood. All i want to say in my post is, Naruto 'biggest' desire is his parents. I didnt say that Naruto doesnt want Sasuke back to Konoha.
I said, Naruto (of course) didnt desire a very flamboyant Sasuke.

Sakura (once, when she's a kid) wants Sasuke being nice with her.

:/
oh my God, isnt my comment clear enough? T.T

@kirabook
yeah, Minato's and Kizashi's position was switch too.


u're the one who are misunderstand.
she wanted to be acknowledge not being treated nicely.
2-> u say that sakura's desire was sasuke being nice with her and this explain the flamboyant sasuke, but the answer is no because sasuke was not the only one who had his personality screwed up, so if u say that "this" sasuke was her desire so u will have to say that this hinata is naruto desire and all the others are part of their desire including tsunade,ino,kiba etc...

3->sakura's parents got a big role than they really has on the real world, hizashi being 4th hokage
let me ask then was her desire?

i think i dont need to explain more because i think u already get it.

Edited by dovahkiin, 29 June 2012 - 09:39 PM.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 09:45 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Jun 29 2012, 05:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
u're the one who are misunderstand.
she wanted to be acknowledge not being treated nicely.
2-> u say that sakura's desire was sasuke being nice with her and this explain the flamboyant sasuke, but the answer is no because sasuke was not the only one who had his personality screwed up, so if u say that "this" sasuke was her desire so u will have to say that this hinata is naruto desire and all the others are part of their desire including tsunade,ino,kiba etc...

3->sakura's parents got a big role than they really has on the real world, hizashi being 4th hokage
let me ask then was her desire?

i think i dont need to explain more because i think u already get it.


This. biggrin.gif

Side note: does anyone have the slightest idea why everyone change personality in the gejutsu.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 09:52 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Jun 29 2012, 09:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
u're the one who are misunderstand.
she wanted to be acknowledge not being treated nicely.
2-> u say that sakura's desire was sasuke being nice with her and this explain the flamboyant sasuke, but the answer is no because sasuke was not the only one who had his personality screwed up, so if u say that "this" sasuke was her desire so u will have to say that this hinata is naruto desire and all the others are part of their desire including tsunade,ino,kiba etc...

3->sakura's parents got a big role than they really has on the real world, hizashi being 4th hokage
let me ask then was her desire?

i think i dont need to explain more because i think u already get it.


....i still have to disagree XD.....I think kushina, minato, and sasuke are what naruto and sakura desire :3

to me....tobi simply made a world and made each person fit his own description so he can stall naruto and sakura to get his job done in the real world biggrin.gif( maybe he thought these personalities were best for the job.)

:3 naruto's biggest distraction being his parents and sakura's sasuke biggrin.gif

....but now im just repeating myself XO



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Posted 29 June 2012 - 09:59 PM

Most of the genjutsu is what they wanted. The rest is to throw them off or confuse them or Tobi just got the other characters all wrong because he doesn't know them.

Naruto would love for his parents to be alive again. If his parents were to be revived, he would likely never want to let them go. Even if he found out they were fake, he would still want to be with them, it would be very hard.

I assume Tobi/Madara assumed what Sakura would have wanted most is a Sasuke that returned her feelings and advances. She would want to be with the one he thinks she loves most. It probably wasn't even his intention to have her trapped in the genjutsu, but he had to do something to keep her aloof or make her want to stay.

Or maybe she wanted to understand Naruto better the most. From the looks of it, Sakura and Naruto could have completely switched lives. In the end, I think it might backfire. The Sasuke part at least.

As for the rest, it would have made more sense to make them as much like themselves as possible, but think about it. Tobi doesn't know those people personally. He might get a lot of it wrong *or all of it*.

But what is really interesting is.... well, I may be thinking too much about it, but it looks like he gets Kushina and Minato's personalities very correct. How would he know how they acted while they were alive so well if he didn't know them himself at some point of time. I mean, this is a movie and all, but Kishi is behind it still. Wouldn't his parents be off a little too? Unless that theory that Minato and Kushina aren't exactly part of the genjutsu and came about due to the small amount of their chakra that is in Naruto is true.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 10:28 PM

QUOTE (kirabook @ Jun 29 2012, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But what is really interesting is.... well, I may be thinking too much about it, but it looks like he gets Kushina and Minato's personalities very correct. How would he know how they acted while they were alive so well if he didn't know them himself at some point of time.


He did know them though, since he directly or indirectly caused both of their deaths, he must have studied their movements for some time in preparation. He is nothing but methodical after all, the man has back-up plans to the nth degree lol

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