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[T XD]

Who ruined anime worse? 4Kids or SP?

Studio Pierrot by a long shot.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

Frustrated : Husband not home to fulfill their duty, so wife have to "play solo" (if you know what i mean)

Denial : Wife know their marriage is a big mistake and it's not gonna work, but they force themselves into thinking that their are happy family.

 

Only pro enders don't see to believe that.

[Gravenimage]

Their marriages are loveless. Period.

 This^

 

 

 

Studio Pierrot by a long shot.

 

Definitely Pierot.

[Phantom_999]

Well to Pro enders SS and NH are the epitome of love!

[Gravenimage]

Well to Pro enders SS and NH are the epitome of love!

 

Sad but true basically they don't care if both parties are unhappy as long as its canon. I thought romance in Twilight was bad but the romance in Naruto takes it to a whole new level. Kishi did said he wasn't good in making romance he should have never made romance in his manga in the first place. Then maybe none of this NH vs NS vs SS kitten war would have never happened.

[ultranx]

I think Neji did not need to die and leading the clan with Hinata could have been a logical ending hence the Yin and Yang symbolism they embody. Neji dying the same way as his dad contradicts the whole thematic of freeing yourself from fate. It was just an excuse to get Naruto and Hinata together and its even worse when its blatantly ripping off from Ace's death in One Piece except that it completely lacks the build up and development that leads to it to get us truly involved.

 

Speaking of symbolism, the red scarf is literally the representation of Hinata's love and the people who abuse on it are shown to be monsters. The point that the writers are trying to get across is to vilify the people who are against their relationship that means us the narusaku fandom into heartless bullies... Its extremely manipulative and this is exactly what politicians do to get people to vote for them. Being manipulative is in other words thinking that your audience are complete morons and you can easily brainwash them to serve your questionable agenda.

speaking of politics, too bad hillary's schemes are ruined and her funding of isis and other shady stuff has been revealed by wikileaks, thank goodness. 

 

and yeah, I can not believe kishi was so moronic to make neji die a 'cupid'.....

Edited by ultranx, 11 November 2016 - 02:25 AM.

[Gravenimage]

speaking of politics, too bad hillary's schemes are ruined and her funding of isis and other shady stuff has been revealed by wikileaks, thank goodness. 

 

and yeah, I can not believe kishi was so moronic to make neji die a 'cupid'.....

 

He died to make NH canon.

[Moon_Girl]

Some days you can't get away from crap.  On a Taiwan site, there was an ad for Naruto Shippudden. There was half a heart on Naruto's side and the other side scrolled through Sakura and Ino with their own heart half. They were mismatched with Naruto's. Until Hinaturd came along and her's fit perfectly. Ugh.   
That's how you know they only care about pairings if you're making an ad for the WHOLE ANIME out of who gets paired with Naruto.

Pissed me off.

[Phantom_999]

That's unfortunate. Well I avoid that plague however I can

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

Some days you can't get away from crap.  On a Taiwan site, there was an ad for Naruto Shippudden. There was half a heart on Naruto's side and the other side scrolled through Sakura and Ino with their own heart half. They were mismatched with Naruto's. Until Hinaturd came along and her's fit perfectly. Ugh.   
That's how you know they only care about pairings if you're making an ad for the WHOLE ANIME out of who gets paired with Naruto.

Pissed me off.

 Best way is to avoid anything related to Naruto. Naruto's toxicity spreads just as worse worldwide as the American presidential campaign.  

[Luna]

When I see NH I don't feel anyway at all. I think I can even read a NH fic.  Maybe it's because I dislike Naruto the character so he deserves the BORE that is Hinata. I've accepted it now. I love NS still but not the way I used to. I prefer Sakura with other characters like Kakashi, Itachi, heck even Minato( time travel)

[TheFirstEvil100]

Well I am doing a Naruto corpse party crossover and Hinata will lose her mind as that is what the school then end up does to you sadly the end shall be sad as someone will die.

 

Will say this Sakura save Seiko.

[Moon_Girl]

 Best way is to avoid anything related to Naruto. Naruto's toxicity spreads just as worse worldwide as the American presidential campaign.  

 

That's what I do. (Aside from this site and some pro-NaruSaku tumblr pages and Anti-NH/SS pages/posts) The site had nothing to do with Naruto. It was just a random ad. Nowhere is safe. 

Edited by Moon_Girl, 12 November 2016 - 11:03 PM.

[Bail o' Lies]

When I see NH I don't feel anyway at all. I think I can even read a NH fic.  Maybe it's because I dislike Naruto the character so he deserves the BORE that is Hinata. I've accepted it now. I love NS still but not the way I used to. I prefer Sakura with other characters like Kakashi, Itachi, heck even Minato( time travel)

Honestly once you read on nH fanfic you read them all unless they get really disgusting in the fantasy of what they do to Sakura.

 

Here a summary of almost every nH fanfic:

Step One: Over Dramatize Naruto's Pariah Status.

Step Two: Naruto gains an ability that the author thought sounds cool.

Step Three: Make him get together instantly with Hinata, also with barely any romance throughout the entire story.

Step Four: Author remakes Naruto into his ideal to insert himself into, and Hinata his ideal woman. Flip if author is female.

Step Five: Punish the village.

Step Six: Kill Sakura in a gruesome way.

Step Seven: After the author gets off on killing Sakura, they tend to have run out of ideas. So the plot meanders around till they end it.

 

The reason that db guy wanted the NS fans to go back to making fanfic is because their is actual variety and creativity in those stories(also to force us to accept the ending to make sure we still support the series to make them the victors by making us content with it through our fanfics). You can tell how good a story is by how it inspires it readers. NS stories tend to cover: love, emotion, feeling of self-worth, friendship, falling in love with a friend, wondering what romance does to a friendship, romance as simply being with the person any enjoying each-other company instead of grand gestures, bonds, forgiveness to other and oneself, discovering more about a person beyond their outward persona, finding common ground with someone, and so on. nH it's the same boring ass power fantasy with the only difference is "what power is the coolest?"

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 13 November 2016 - 08:35 PM.

[Luna]

^  I agree with you. I think there's a member on here that wrote a story on FF about Sakura being trained by the third. The comments are so disgusting. All of these Naruto fanboys HOPE it would be Naruto and when the found out it's Sakura the bash the author and the story.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

Honestly once you read on nH fanfic you read them all unless they get really disgusting in the fantasy of what they do to Sakura.

 

Here a summary of almost every nH fanfic:

Step One: Over Dramatize Naruto's Pariah Status.

Step Two: Naruto gains an ability that the author thought sounds cool.

Step Three: Make him get together instantly with Hinata, also with barely any romance throughout the entire story.

Step Four: Author remakes Naruto into his ideal to insert himself into, and Hinata his ideal woman. Flip if author is female.

Step Five: Punish the village.

Step Six: Kill Sakura in a gruesome way.

Step Seven: After the author gets off on killing Sakura, they tend to have run out of ideas. So the plot meanders around till they end it.

 

The reason that db guy wanted the NS fans to go back to making fanfic is because their is actual variety and creativity in those stories(also to force use to accept the ending to make sure we still support the series to make them the victors by making us content with it through our fanfics.). You can tell how good a story is by how it inspires it readers. NS stories tend to cover: love, emotion, feeling of self-worth, friendship, falling in love with a friend, wondering what romance does to a friendship, romance as simply being with the person any enjoying each-other company instead of grand gestures, bonds, forgiveness to other and oneself, discovering more about a person beyond their outward persona, finding common ground with someone, and so on. nH it's the same boring ass power fantasy with the only difference is "what power is the coolest?"

To be fair, I did read some decent NH fanfics, but they definitely are a VERY tiny minority.

Some other steps that could be added in from what I've seen in other NH fanfics like that...

- Naruto magically gets together with Hinata instantly while the author themselves even state in the story that he NEVER noticed her before.

- Have Hinata magically gain a spine and/or new OP powers and beats up / kill Sakura and/or others, even her own family (largely Hiashi, Hanabi, and Neji).

- Aside from over-dramatizing Naruto's pariah status (beating, torturing, even sexual assault and shinobi using lethal techniques on him, etc.), they also have practically EVERYONE ELSE be involved even when the canon clearly showed otherwise (like Shikamaru, Chouji, and Kiba). Clearly a way to make it look like Hinata is the absolutely only one who "truly cares" about Naruto.

- Turning Hiruzen into someone worse than Danzo.

- Aside from giving Naruto a new (OP / cool) power(s), they suddenly make him extremely intelligent (usually making even Shikamaru look like an idiot), usually under the really weak "I was only pretending to be stupid" mask excuse, usually casually going into the Forest of Death and easily surviving.

[Bail o' Lies]

To be fair, I did read some decent NH fanfics, but they definitely are a VERY tiny minority.

Some other steps that could be added in from what I've seen in other NH fanfics like that...

- Naruto magically gets together with Hinata instantly while the author themselves even state in the story that he NEVER noticed her before.

- Have Hinata magically gain a spine and/or new OP powers and beats up / kill Sakura and/or others, even her own family (largely Hiashi, Hanabi, and Neji).

- Aside from over-dramatizing Naruto's pariah status (beating, torturing, even sexual assault and shinobi using lethal techniques on him, etc.), they also have practically EVERYONE ELSE be involved even when the canon clearly showed otherwise (like Shikamaru, Chouji, and Kiba). Clearly a way to make it look like Hinata is the absolutely only one who "truly cares" about Naruto.

- Turning Hiruzen into someone worse than Danzo.

- Aside from giving Naruto a new (OP / cool) power(s), they suddenly make him extremely intelligent (usually making even Shikamaru look like an idiot), usually under the really weak "I was only pretending to be stupid" mask excuse, usually casually going into the Forest of Death and easily surviving.

I avoided going into to detail to save myself from ranting about how disgusting their fanfics could get.

 

- Naruto magically gets together with Hinata instantly while the author themselves even state in the story that he NEVER noticed her before. That's part of step three. Also they also Normally have someone tell Naruto that hinata is in love with him and then he goes "oh really" then instantly dates her and fall in love. Then we don't see any real romance between the couple, or cute bonding despite them suppose to be incredibly in love with each other. Or it's "I never realize how hot hinata is" then seconds verse is same as the first.

 

- Have Hinata magically gain a spine and/or new OP powers and beats up / kill Sakura and/or others, even her own family (largely Hiashi, Hanabi, and Neji). That's part of step four, and step six.

 

- Aside from over-dramatizing Naruto's pariah status (beating, torturing, even sexual assault and shinobi using lethal techniques on him, etc.), they also have practically EVERYONE ELSE be involved even when the canon clearly showed otherwise (like Shikamaru, Chouji, and Kiba). Clearly a way to make it look like Hinata is the absolutely only one who "truly cares" about Naruto. Step one.

 

- Turning Hiruzen into someone worse than Danzo. Step one. Which normally leads to step five.

 

- Aside from giving Naruto a new (OP / cool) power(s), they suddenly make him extremely intelligent (usually making even Shikamaru look like an idiot), usually under the really weak "I was only pretending to be stupid" mask excuse, usually casually going into the Forest of Death and easily surviving. Step four.

 

^  I agree with you. I think there's a member on here that wrote a story on FF about Sakura being trained by the third. The comments are so disgusting. All of these Naruto fanboys HOPE it would be Naruto and when the found out it's Sakura the bash the author and the story.

Most people become nH fans not out of love of Hinata but because of their hatred towards Sakura. Why do think I sometime bring up that Sakura to them is all the girls that friends zone them? because nH is revenge against those girls by getting the perfect woman.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 13 November 2016 - 11:51 PM.

[Luna]

I was watching a movie called Flipped today and romance between Julie and Bryce is what SasuSaku should've been.

 

Romance points.

 

Julie had on crush on Bryce from like 6-7

He thought she was annoying and hated her

She fell in love with him more as they got older and practically stalked him( kinda like Sakura did to Sasuke but not on a hinata level)

He kept running away from her during middles school and asked out the girl Julie hate to get her off his back

Julie was jealous and when the girl broke up with him she went back to obsessing over him

He still thought she was annoying

Julie stopped obsessing over him after personal stuff happened to her and started questioning her love him

He began to notice she stopped and was happy for a while. He then did some rude stuff to her and she stopped speaking to him

 

Long story short. She was in love with him at first and he wasn't. When she stopped obsessing over him he began to fall in love with her. He did some awful things and had to grovel for her forgiveness.

[Phantom_999]

At least he never tried to kill her.

[milan kyuubi]

Then I suggest watching Golden Time!