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#22981 Gojira

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 08:19 PM

I knew Kishi was never going to reveal Sasuke's situation to Sakura I also knew that Sakura would be the one by Naruto's side when he's at his worst (ever since the Rescue Gaara arc I believe)

 

It just would have been nice for her to make a choice, what would she have done? 


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Posted 03 July 2014 - 08:23 PM

I knew Kishi was never going to reveal Sasuke's situation to Sakura I also knew that Sakura would be the one by Naruto's side when he's at his worst (ever since the Rescue Gaara arc I believe)
 
It just would have been nice for her to make a choice, what would she have done? 

Both? They are Team 7. Plus it would have different focus on thinking rather than one guy, which to me it's the most effective point. I mean I think it would have been lowered if Sakura was thinking Naruto as a guy in Team 7, but she thought Naruto as a guy that defines him. But if I was to say who, I say both.

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 08:24 PM

Both? They are Team 7. Plus it would have different focus on thinking rather than one guy, which to me it's the most effective point. I mean I think it would have been lowered if Sakura was thinking Naruto as a guy in Team 7, but she thought Naruto as a guy that defines him. But if I was to say who, I say both.

I don't think it would be possible to save both if she was only able to reach one.


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Posted 03 July 2014 - 08:35 PM

I don't think it would be possible to save both if she was only able to reach one.

Then Naruto. Unless Naruto's wish to have him alive, then that. Sounds like a game choice. Lol.

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 09:46 PM

Jiraiya's death......Man! I literally cried too much that time :(. Even now it gives me feels :(. Yes! I do hope our theory works XD. I think it is much plausible, tbh!

Me to Me to but god damn when Naruto meet Minato for the first time in the Pain arc that really hit me , and here crossing fingers for the theory  if it happens I will celebrate it with one bottle of Rakia Lol XD .

 

I would love it if something like this happened

 

http://www.mangapand...chapter-73.html

http://www.mangapand...chapter-73.html

http://www.mangapand...chapter-73.html

 

heh I don't even like Haru's character at all and yet he and Elie always seem to have one of the best pairing moments.

 

Found this kind of interesting not sure what episode its from though.

 

http://tkghoul-narus...first-456021156

Yep something like that I would love it  just I would prefer if they were standing straight up faced toward each other but either way its good .

 

Don't remember the episode but i remember the hate that Sakura get for this piece of kitten that SP did seriously WTF were they thinking with this one :facepalm:  .   


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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:10 PM

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Kishi love triangle format is two boys one girl one side love triangle and kishi acknowledge this.
He doesn't acknowledge two girls one boy oneside love triangle, only fan who acknowledge it.

It will significantly change the dynamic of naruto romance if he choose the later. Especially if he make naruto the decision maker.

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:10 PM

I would love it if something like this happened

 

http://www.mangapand...chapter-73.html

http://www.mangapand...chapter-73.html

http://www.mangapand...chapter-73.html

 

heh I don't even like Haru's character at all and yet he and Elie always seem to have one of the best pairing moments.

 

Found this kind of interesting not sure what episode its from though.

 

http://tkghoul-narus...first-456021156

I would like to happen that and if you read  the last chapters from this manga I would like happen that too, but no, Kishi already had a lot opportunities to make a NS moment like that. Example Jiraiya's death  to cheer up  Naruto even with the NH Kishi could not do that. I do not believe  him anymore, the only think I believe is that  he already put all NS moments and that is enough for him and to confirm NS become is canon he will do it in a epilogue.


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Posted 03 July 2014 - 11:06 PM

NaruSaku has had a lot of missed opportunities in the series. Even as the most likely pairing, I won't deny that. I'm still shocked that Kishimoto completely skipped over the wake-up scene after Naruto's near-death experience when Sakura still needs to realize her feelings. What better opportunity was there than that? It just doesn't make sense to me. I don't know what way Kishi's thinking to make NS canon but whatever it will be, it will never be as believable as a wake-up scene if Sakura truly doesn't know she loves Naruto yet.

 

I've also been thinking. NaruSaku's moments are always interrupted and as I was re-watching Part 1, I noticed how Kishi never really hesitated to hit us over the head with Sakura's love for Sasuke. They had three hugs, all three done out of relief and two with tears. NaruSaku has never had that and it should've at least been done once after Naruto was saved. That's probably exactly why so many SS fans believe in Sakura's love for Sasuke as "true and deep and emotional." SS even had Sakura embracing Sasuke with tears after she thought he was dead, but not NS. Just tears of relief.

 

Of course, Sakura was very young and much more emotional back then (something SS fans conveniently fail to remember) and I'm not at all saying she loves Naruto now any less. It just bothers me that NS doesn't  get scenes like that when they're going to be canon and SS will be dead by series end. I don't want NaruSaku an angsty pool of dysfunction like SasuSaku, but it really wouldn't kill Kishi to give us at least one really meaningful NS with tears when it's appropriate (again, like a wake-up scene). Other than the Tenchi Bridge scene of course.

 

SS is such a crappy pairing. I don't like how they're the ones to get relieved, tearful hugs when the actual canon pair doesn't. It just doesn't feel right. :hm:


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Posted 03 July 2014 - 11:46 PM

Do anyone want me to write a LAP on what you guys are saying now?



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Posted 03 July 2014 - 11:50 PM

Do anyone want me to write a LAP on what you guys are saying now?

By all means please do that would be fun Lol XD


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Posted 03 July 2014 - 11:52 PM

By all means please do that would be fun Lol XD

Ok, I will write it once I'm done eating my dinner.



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Posted 03 July 2014 - 11:54 PM

@james
Kishi love triangle format is two boys one girl one side love triangle and kishi acknowledge this.
He doesn't acknowledge two girls one boy oneside love triangle, only fan who acknowledge it.

It will significantly change the dynamic of naruto romance if he choose the later. Especially if he make naruto the decision maker.

lol Alright, though I like how noone has actually answered my question yet, but that's cool.

As for a romance dynamic....well, the way things are looking it probably would be an improvement given fan reaction of it all so far. It would probably allow people to be more accepting of things with this method than what we have going now, but that's jut my opinion.

Then again, the dynamic of Naruto romance is really hard to judge.


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Posted 03 July 2014 - 11:58 PM

Unfortunately, Kishimoto is not proficient when it comes to romance. Minato and Kushina's love story (told in a flash) must be his ceiling, I'm afraid. He's much better at depicting bromance. Even NaruSaku relationship most of the times can be taken as a devoted friendship instead of anything else. In other words, romance in this manga is totally eclipsed by friendship and other types of bonds (family, master-student, and comrade ties, for example). So I wouldn't hope for a purely romantic NS moment. It seems, those rare private moments between the two will be always loaded with some other bonds and feelings. That's how Kishimoto operates.      


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Posted 04 July 2014 - 12:05 AM

Unfortunately, Kishimoto is not proficient when it comes to romance. Minato and Kushina's love story (told in a flash) must be his ceiling, I'm afraid. He's much better at depicting bromance. Even NaruSaku relationship most of the times can be taken as a devoted friendship instead of anything else. In other words, romance in this manga is totally eclipsed by friendship and other types of bonds (family, master-student, and comrade ties, for example). So I wouldn't hope for a pure romantic NS moment. It seems, those rare private moments between the two will be always loaded with some other bonds and feelings. That's how Kishimoto operates.

it's mostly because Kishimoto keeps repeating the same brand, i think his manga ruined the concept of bromance, what Naruto has is something extremely pathetic and unjustifiable, i understand the nakama thing but the extent of the things Naruto did because of this said friendship is ridiculous.
About the whole romance thing, if you notice all the relationships are related to one another the difference is that they have slight changes.
Kishimoto doesnt try to keep the romance something unique, he ruined it by the intense use of parallels and the lack of originality within the plot, example MinaKushi/ObiRin/JiraTsu being a ripoffs of NaruSaku.

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 12:08 AM

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 12:21 AM

CRAP! remember when everyone was giving "old sayings" from their countries earlier? I had one I was hoping to post for a long time...then the chance came, and I forgot. so i'll say it now lol. there used to be a saying in Alabama [I'm not sure if it was in other us places lol] among elementary-jr. high schoolers'

 

"if a girl hits a guy then she must have a crush on them" lol



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Posted 04 July 2014 - 12:21 AM

it's mostly because Kishimoto keeps repeating the same brand, i think his manga ruined the concept of bromance, what Naruto has is something extremely pathetic and unjustifiable, i understand the nakama thing but the extent of the things Naruto did because of this said friendship is ridiculous.
About the whole romance thing, if you notice all the relationships are related to one another the difference is that they have slight changes.
Kishimoto doesnt try to keep the romance something unique, he ruined it by the intense use of parallels and the lack of originality within the plot, example MinaKushi/ObiRin/JiraTsu being a ripoffs of NaruSaku.

 

Well, you're entitled to your own opinion, and I'm to mine. ) Parallelism is not the problem, it's actually the foundation of the story which, in its turn, is rooted in the oriental ontology  That's why many western fans wouldn't like or appreciate certain aspects of Kishimoto's narrative style. Not their piece of pie. )


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Posted 04 July 2014 - 12:27 AM

Well, you're entitled to your own opinion, and I'm to mine. ) Parallelism is not the problem, it's actually the foundation of the story which, in its turn, is rooted in the oriental ontology  That's why many western fans wouldn't like or appreciate certain aspects of Kishimoto's narrative style. Not their piece of pie. )

Im' kind of a litle tired since it's already late night.
The romance subplot is not good either, and to explain the foundation of SS, NH and other pairing which also includes NS are not good either but then you have parallels around it, making parallels of a story that is not good you end up ruining it even further.
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Posted 04 July 2014 - 12:29 AM

This the formula of Kishi for NS become canon:

 

NS+friendship+ development+comedy-romance+ romance/MK=AK= To an epilogue, Kishi showing NS as marriage couple, meaning like  MinatoxKushina  or AsumaxKurenai skipping the truth confession.


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Posted 04 July 2014 - 12:37 AM

Bolded: Don't give the other fandom any ideas. XD Next thing you know, the other fandoms start saying that Naruto loves Sakura like a mother.

That the stupidest excuse the other fandom will make, if they think like that. Oh man, I can't stop laughing now! LoL

 

 

This the formula of Kishi for NS become canon:

 

NS+friendship+ development+comedy-romance+ romance/MK=AK= To an epilogue, Kishi showing NS as marriage couple, meaning like  MinatoxKushina  or AsumaxKurenai skipping the truth confession.

Well, it will be nice if there is a little hinting right the moment they win the war. Just a little to shoot out continuously the other ships that this is the real ship. Theennn, the epilogue to top it off. Yup, that will be nice *Deidara-style nodding*


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