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#2281 MangaReader

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 05:56 AM

Okay, I'm sorry for repeating myself, but isn't possible that Sakura has been kept a secret, just because she's going to be important to the plot, and they don't want to spoil it? Plus, we still have two more chapters left of the manga, so who knows what they could give away- since it's been confirmed that the movie ties into the manga- if they were to focus on her more? 

That's hardly out of the question...why hide her if she's not there for anything but support? It's apparent to me that Sakura and Naruto are so self conscious of the other, they refuse to believe they're good for each other. Naruto doesn't believe he can make her happy like Sasuke and Sakura feels she doesn't deserve a guy like Naruto. Hence maybe why she's supporting Hinata, because she knows Hinata has loved Naruto for quite sometime. IDK, maybe I'm in the stages of Grief, maybe I'm in the ballpark... All I know is everyone needs to just keep calm till we get about as much info as we can until the actual movie


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 05:56 AM

well lets look at the bright side or the anti nh moment in the trailer

-hinata looked sad ? when sakura put her arms on hinata's shoulder, if sakura really encouraged her shouldn't she be happy?
-and the whole atmosphere between hinata and naruto doesn't seem like a happy new couple its almost like (and i hope ) "i'm giving you this scarf and telling you that i love u so that i can move on" atmosphere ,maybe that will explain why she looked sad when she was with him in that sunset scene


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 05:57 AM

I find it HIGHLY suspicious that neither of the three -Hinata, Naruto, and Sakura- have made romantic advances so far. Why didn't Hinata approach him in the two-year timeskip? Or better: What motivated her to give Naruto the scarf NOW? And I honestly doubt that Naruto and Sakura are already a couple at the start of this movie (come on!, really?). I myself would find it anticlimactic.

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 05:57 AM

I don't believe the whole NaruHina thing for one moment, and I'm not in denial, but honestly I don't see Naruto giving up that fast on Sakura. He's been in love with her since they were genin and to dismiss his feelings like that would be so OOC for him and a cop out, but I have faith Kishimoto will give us a proper ending, and hoping a confession from Naruto, because he still needs to do it, and for him not too would ruin his character and make him look bad.


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 05:58 AM

The one in the pamphlet? It says "destiny."


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 05:59 AM

When this ordeal is over and NS is canon NH fans will feel my wrath.


 


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 06:00 AM

Hey, long time lurker, first time poster, and I needed to get a few things off my chest about this movie, only half of which are pairing fodder.

 

The first, is that for the very last Naruto story (until Naruto GT or whatever), the plot is pretty small scale and low key.  Some new guy kidnaps Hanabi, a character who we've seen so little of that she means next to nothing to the main cast.  Um, that's it?  No world destroying threat?  No final confrontation with Orochimaru or Kabuto?  Seems kinda...blah.  I was expecting something that would be massive and game changing, the sort of final battle you need a big screen budget to bring to life in a film, like a final battle in space or something (they do want to pull the moon down allegedly after all).  This could easily be a Shippuden filler arc.

 

Secondly is this constant focus on Hinata.  Hinata this, Hinata that.  I hate Hinata.  I kinda wished she had died at multiple points in the story because she would have contributed something, which is more than she contributes to the plot now.  She dies against Neji, Naruto is inspired but shown the risk of being a ninja.  She dies against Pein, he realizes that he has inspired people.  What sort of interaction has she had with the main cast outside of going "Naruto-kun" like a puppet with a string?  

 

If she were to end up with Naruto, after 600+ chapters of developing Team 7's relationship, for good and for ill, and not to mention, noting that Naruto's single most defining characteristic is that he DOES NOT GIVE UP, EVER, whether it be in promises to friends, threats to enemies, or his goals, is that a happy ending?  "I chases her for 11+ years but it was too hard, here's some girl the fans like."  That's not a happy ending.  That's a downright bittersweet ending for him, the same ending that Jirayia had, that Tobi had, etc.  It makes no sense from a writing perspective.  It reminds me more of the tale of a stalker who becomes violent when she can't get the object of her affection than any sort of logical, well written romance.  And for the hero who has to overcome all these obstacles to get his happy ending, it leaves such a bitter taste in the mouth of the readers that it would permanently stain the impression of the series.

 

And the promotion is driving me nuts.  For what should be the last movie, the LAST MOVIE, all the promo material is "Hinata this, Hinata that."  I HATE HINATA.  You're not going to endear fans to this movie if it's just a two hour declaration from Studio Pierrot about how they want to make Hinata their waifu.  It's no longer endearing, it's now shoving her down her throat.  It has gotten to the point where I now want her to be the villain of the movie, luring the heroes into a trap on this so-called "rescue" mission.  How badly has character promotion backfired when I want a character to be a villain?  You can have her develop as a character without shoving her down our throats.  Here's an idea, what if the movie was about her getting over Naruto?  Her realizing that she can be the things he is, brave, confident, strong, without needing to be with him?  That would make her an actual character.  And it seems people are less interested in her being a character than being an ugly rock that Naruto has to carry around with him everywhere.

 

Sorry for that wall of text, but I really needed to get that off my chest.



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Posted 31 October 2014 - 06:01 AM

@Liu Bie:

 

I can't say for sure. I feel like they're hiding something about Sakura because she has involvement with the romance plot and SP just likes to show as much Hinata as possible, but who knows.

 

Honestly, as jaded and exhausted as I am about all these NH "teases" already, if Kishi had any consistency Naruto isn't going to move on from Sakura. He doesn't give up and Naruto isn't the type of character to change like that. It just wouldn't make sense because a) Naruto had multiple reasons to move on before and he never did b) Kishi struggles to get any character to move on. I find it weird that Naruto of all people wouldn't be one of them. 

 

But I swear, I hope I do not see Sakura propping up NH and encouraging Hinata to be with Naruto all happily. That's some seriously awkward, OCC kitten. :twitch:


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 06:01 AM

Naruto's "wait for me" quote is to Hinata.  "Do you remember? About that time? (when they were kids) I have something I must tell you... wait for me"

Naruto says "I've realized something I should protect..." when he looks at Hinata in that sun scene.

 

Ugh.


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 06:02 AM

"Naruto the Last" and Sakura's "fate" character go much better together. Though there's also the possibility that it can be interpreted as simply being "life" and connected to her being a medic nin. Just explore both sides of the coin people, don't think your opinion is 100% confirmed and listen to what others have to say. Also don't force your opinions on others.


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 06:02 AM

This whole thing really speaks volumes to the credibility Kishi has left NS with. He's really going to drop the whole matter of Naruto's feelings, isn't he?



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Posted 31 October 2014 - 06:02 AM

I'm kinda relieved after this trailer. Don't ask why. But I do know for a fact that SP is holding out on Sakura scenes now. I'm sure everyone noticed they cut out Sakura appearing in her rocking jacket and putting her hands on Hinata's shoulders, to intentionally tease NH, with the word placement and to make people, who didn't catch it, think that Naruto was the one who put his hands on her.

 

Sakura's gonna appear more than SP is advertising and they only proved it with this trailer.( Though I'm glad we actually got some screen time for Sakura and I lol'd at Sakura and Gaara shouting Naruto's name.) Anyway, not to mention we still need to be shown the rookies, sand siblings and more on Sasuke and Kakashi. This, not even two minute trailer, just highlights Hinata, when there's clearly more going on, so I wouldn't throw in the towel just yet.

 

Not to mention, like Konan-sama and others have said, the manga is not over. Who knows, maybe once the manga is finished and we get an NS tease, SP will start putting out more info on Sakura.( Because really Hinata's role pretty much done, but Sakura's is still moving.)

 

Also Choco2 posted a great reason, why we shouldn't panic about the NH screen shots.

 

 

LOL you just have 3 posts  :pimp:

 

this for RTN trailer

 

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then becomes to this hahahahahaha :chuckle:

 

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So people, who are worried, should calm down. This trailer only highlight specific things, but never explains anything, leaving it all up for interpretation for drama.( or dramu as many have been calling it.)

 

Finally, AMEN for my gurl Sakura! :w00t:  


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 06:02 AM

That's hardly out of the question...why hide her if she's not there for anything but support? It's apparent to me that Sakura and Naruto are so self conscious of the other, they refuse to believe they're good for each other. Naruto doesn't believe he can make her happy like Sasuke and Sakura feels she doesn't deserve a guy like Naruto. Hence maybe why she's supporting Hinata, because she knows Hinata has loved Naruto for quite sometime. IDK, maybe I'm in the stages of Grief, maybe I'm in the ballpark... All I know is everyone needs to just keep calm till we get about as much info as we can until the actual movie

 

I'm sorry, but what makes you think that Sakura is there to only fulfill a supporting role, though? We've only had about 1.5 minutes- even less, if you exclude the random title/narration stuff- out of a 110 minute movie shown to us, and we have no context for the scenes. There's pretty much nothing about the plot revealed to us, except that Earth is in danger and romance will be worming its way into the story, somehow...

 

Plus, Naruto has implied that he intends to confess to Sakura once he's rescued Sasuke, so he's very well in the position to do so, now. He hasn't shown any signs, yet, in the manga of having changed his mind. On top of that, Sakura was there for two NH moments, and she wasn't too pleased in either circumstance...


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 06:03 AM

this describes this website well.

I'm starting to think you're a troll along with ITS_OVER, all you 2 ever do is be negative especially you over mere speculation. good grief....


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 06:03 AM

No the one from the Mecha Naruto episode

 

Oh, gotcha! I'm not sure about that one, then, sorry! :(


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 06:03 AM

If Naruto and Sakura are already together... then this is just one giant lead on movie.


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 06:04 AM

No the one from the Mecha Naruto episode

Did you read my post Mr. White? Is this what you were talking about?

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 06:08 AM

 

What makes you think that Sakura is there to only fulfill a supporting role, though? We've only had about 1.5 minutes- even less, if you exclude the random title/narration stuff- out of a 110 minute movie shown to us, and we have no context for the scenes. There's pretty much nothing about the plot revealed to us, except that Earth is in danger and romance will be worming its way into the story, somehow...

What I'm trying to get at... is if she is truly only support like the only images we have of her suggest (and trust me, I know we have next to nothing to go on about her), why keep her hidden? Is she a threat to NH, is she currently dating Naruto... is she hiding her own feelings for Naruto? There's no way she has that diminished of a role in this movie, not if Kishi is writing it, so clearly she's the WC here


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 06:08 AM

Naruto's "wait for me" quote is to Hinata.  "Do you remember? About that time? (when they were kids) I have something I must tell you... wait for me"

Naruto says "I've realized something I should protect..." when he looks at Hinata in that sun scene.

 

Ugh.

 

 

Naruto say in trailer when he looks at Hinata ( I've realized something that I should protect my nakamas ) something like that looool 

not thing about love or feelings , it's like CD-cover called "friendship" 


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MY REACTION FOR NARUTO MANGA ENDING

 

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 06:08 AM

 

There are two shippuden movie I knew that were misleading during promotions, and let's start with this one: 

 

 

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I remember fully well that every trailer, tv spot, poster, etc, was all towards the big reunion between Naruto and Sasuke, and let me tell you the promotion was really insane (almost like a Call of Duty status). A majority of the fanbase was pumped, and I'll be honest I was in that crowd during that point in time. Then when the movie came out my expectations weren't exactly the way I thought I was gonna have them to be after viewing Bonds. 

 

 

 

 

Next comes the most obvious choice (I'm gonna share the photos I can find/remember during promotions):

 

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When this poster first came out, many of us where kinda curious like "Oh wow everyone has different expressions then usual, and Naruto and his parents are there too like what's up with that." So at the time this poster wasn't that bad, but then we got all of this: 

 

 

 

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Now you see the last two images I uploaded, people were thinking oh no this will be heavy fan service of NH and SS. I remember most of us were even skeptical about even watching it. Fortunately at the time I was one of the few who were like you know what let's see how Road to Ninja plays out, and once I saw the movie my expression was pretty much  :wibble:   .

 

 

Which of course results from the images people uploaded after seeing Road to Ninja. 

 

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and This Pic  :party: our most known NS moment from that entire movie. 

 

 

 

 

 

Now my point here is that promotions for movies and the outcome of a movie are two very different things. Look through all the updates that deals with The Last and think back to how Bonds and Road To Ninja were handled during promotions. If there is one thing I know about promotions is that they can be deceiving so keep that in mind. A proper judgement of The Last should be made only and only when the movie finally comes out. Remember Kishi was the writer of RTN, and look at what happened during promotions before and when that movie came out. In this movie he's the chief story supervisor!!! Not The one promoting it, We all know who that is ... Studio Perriot.....

 

 

I hope this sinks into your brains, and hopefully this doesn't sound like a rant guys because all I'm trying to do is giving you advice, of course being there for you guys, and help steer you all in the right direction. 

 

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