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[The Tax-Man]

wtf? epicify lol they would have got together. Kishi showed us Tsunade was feeling the same way he did about her. but then Jiraya got killed.

Uh...no. Like I said, It was a move to move the plot forward and add a little drama to his death. After like 40 years of a static relationship I'd doubt there would be anything.

[ShippudenGirl]

I always thought there was a bit of a relationship between Jiraiya and Tsunade. It just seemed that they both didn't know what to do, or say. Jiraiya may have never done anything because of Dan.

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[The Tax-Man]

I always thought there was a bit of a relationship between Jiraiya and Tsunade. It just seemed that they both didn't know what to do, or say. Jiraiya may have never done anything because of Dan.

That might be it. But I doubt that Jiraya's feelings were THAT serious. Anyway, isn't this off-topic?

[ShippudenGirl]

I suppose. It could be used as another NaruSaku parallel though, just as MinaKushi is.

[The Tax-Man]

I suppose. It could be used as another NaruSaku parallel though, just as MinaKushi is.

Maybe, maybe not. Nothing stops the imagination, though.

[merryGOflava]

i thought jiraiya liked tsunade thats why he never settled down with another girl?

[The Tax-Man]

i thought jiraiya liked tsunade thats why he never settled down with another girl?

When was that ever said? LOL we can't even infer that.

[Living Lavish]

Uh...no. Like I said, It was a move to move the plot forward and add a little drama to his death. After like 40 years of a static relationship I'd doubt there would be anything.

lol of course it moved the plot forward and create drama no kitten lol
The team broke off long time ago for many years they haven't seen each other. the three were close once
but now after all these years Jiraya and tsunade formed there relationship back. Jiraiya even said one of his failures in life was not getting Tsunade who he always loved. Tsunade returning his feeings finally and was wishing for him to come back alive. im going off whats in the manga your going off something else.

Edited by Living Lavish, 16 March 2011 - 04:19 AM.

[Living Lavish]

Yep, Tsunade figured out Jiraiya had been in love with her all those years, (he finally almost confessed his feelings, before he tried to make a joke out of it. Tsunade saw through his game finally) and her words before she got news he was dead, when she was crying and talking to Shizune was how she going to knock him right out of his delusion about them never getting together. Jiraiya also hinted he was done playing around, he was going to be serious from now on if he made it back. The way he said that to her had the vibe he was meaning more than as a ninja, personally too. I think subconsciously he was picking up on the vibe from her, and she did cry for him and try to get him to call for her if he got in too much danger. When he knew he was dying it was better for him to pretend he'd never get through to her that he was in love with her rather than acknowledge what his subconscious knew, she would be waiting for him for him to return and in love with him.

exactly
too bad for Jiraiya tho.

[The Tax-Man]

lol of course it moved the plot forward and create drama no kitten lol
The team broke off long time ago for many years they haven't seen each other. the three were close once
but now after all these years Jiraya and tsunade formed there relationship back. Jiraiya even said one of his failures in life was not getting Tsunade who he always loved. Tsunade returning his feeings finally and was wishing for him to come back alive. im going off whats in the manga your going off something else.

Yes I know that. You Didn't get me. What I was saying was that yes, they had something, and yes, it was Jiraya's regret, but it was too late. Their relationship was in the phase where it's too late for anything other than a close friendship. It was all adult jokes and feelings that were not put to 'use'. It was simply too late to do anything. Sure, Jiraya loved her. But his regret was that he didn't do anything when they were young. My whole point is that even though they had feelings, a relationship couldn't be pursued.

[merryGOflava]

When was that ever said? LOL we can't even infer that.

eh? well jiraiya has asked tsunade out on dates but got shot down each time..

so im guessing he was bent on tsunade thats why he never settled for another chick?

[The Tax-Man]

eh? well jiraiya has asked tsunade out on dates but got shot down each time..

so im guessing he was bent on tsunade thats why he never settled for another chick?

What I meant was that that wasn't the reason he didn't settle for another chick. He loved her, but he had other 'reasons' for not settling as well...

[ShippudenGirl]

Sorry to put this out but try not to double-post Lavish x)

Also, I can't (or couldn't) really imagine Jiraiya settling down. He is a legit Roshi and was pretty much all over any pretty girl he could find. Not saying that Jiraiya could never do it, but he was too adventurous and spirited about his "research." Damn, why do I love pervert characters?

[Paptala]

@Paptala

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As for the current debate about whether Jiraiya and Tsunade would have ended up together if he had lived - its hard to say really. Perhaps if Jiraiya had narrowly managed to survive, the shock of almost losing him may have pushed Tsunade to push for a relationship with him.

I highly doubt that either of them would have made a move to change their relationship unless something happened to push them into doing so. Jiraiya nearly dying may have done so, or maybe seeing Naruto and Sakura come together, may have done the trick as well.

[ciardha]

eh? well jiraiya has asked tsunade out on dates but got shot down each time..

It wasn't dates he was asking for that she shot him down about- she was fine about date kind of things with him- we saw him ask her out for drinks twice in the manga and she went both times. Jiraiya was apt to say something insulting then make a crude come on- that's why she shot him down every time with a punch that sent him flying, he was deliberately doing things he knew would make her violently reject him probably because deep down he was afraid if he made a real overture from his heart she would reject him in a way that would hurt a lot more, not violently, but something along the line of "sorry, I don't feel the same, lets stay friends."

We saw in Tsunade's grieving that wouldn't have happened- she had been attracted to him all along. Yes, she loved Dan, but she loved Jiraiya too. That's why she called Jiraiya "baka" as she grieved him. That reminds me of one of the anime filler bits that I liked, they spelled that out in those filler flashbacks, especially the one that has the moment he was grieving what he thought was the deaths of Yahiko, Konan, and Nagato. Jiraiya is oblivious that Tsunade is hinting that she would like to settle down with him. They were only in the mid 30's at that time so still young enough they could have had kids.

Jiratsu is meant to be a parallel to Narusaku, just like Minakush, and I'm sure Kishimoto will play out the each generation exceeds the the last since he had Minato and Kushina make it further in their relationship than Jiraiya and Tsunade did. Minato and Kushina got together and had a child, but died on the night their child was born. I'm sure Kishimoto will end the manga with an epilogue chapter showing a happily married Naruto and Sakura with two or three kids.

[Torxe]

Jiratsu is meant to be a parallel to Narusaku, just like Minakush, and I'm sure Kishimoto will play out the each generation exceeds the the last since he had Minato and Kushina make it further in their relationship than Jiraiya and Tsunade did. Minato and Kushina got together and had a child, but died on the night their child was born. I'm sure Kishimoto will end the manga with an epilogue chapter showing a happily married Naruto and Sakura with two or three kids.

I'd love that but would want it to be some kind of mini arc. Not the whole and they lived happily ever after kind of scene...
give them a last bit of trouble so we see how they would handle it like a family.

[Akashi]

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[Gravenimage]

Awesome video.

[Madz]

It always makes me laugh when people grab the fact that Naruto refused Sakura's confession as a 'proof' that Narusaku will not happen.
I've read so many great Narusaku fanfics, PRIOR to Sakura's confession and Naruto's reaction, which have Naruto rejecting Sakura's first confession out of love for her - not because he does not love her - then to later realise himself, on his own, that she is over Sasuke (action speaks louder than words.)
And it makes complete sense that he would not believe her in the first place, even if her confession would have been done in the right time /way.
It's like someone comes to you and say, here, this bucket full of diamonds is yours. Your first reaction would be: Stop sh**ting me! Does not mean you don't want or like or aren't happy about it.
And personally, from a writer's point of view, I think it gives Naruto a sense of "strength' (I don't know how to describe it) that he does not immediately jump to Sakura's confession. It makes him more appealing !

[Torxe]

Or you mean he's playing hard to get, or you're saying that he's controlling himself so Sakura could overthink everything for herself a bit.