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[Bail o' Lies]

The manga is going to be for 2016 only ?

No, they want this thing to last as long as possible. Its poor performance is the only thing that will kill it.

 

...I'm not sure how out of the loop you are on recent Naruto information so. Kishimoto since last year has said that he is done with Naruto and he wants to do a sci fi manga. He will be going to the magazine where his his old editor Yahagi works to do that manga. Currently he is the editor of the Boruto manga. His old assistant is the current artist of Boruto. He is not the mangaka of Boruto. The Boruto manga is just rehashing last years movie and it pacing means that it will be doing for at least this year alone.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 22 August 2016 - 09:07 PM.

[T XD]

No, they want this thing to last as long as possible. Its poor performance is the only thing that will kill it.

 

...I'm not sure how out of the loop you are on recent Naruto information so. Kishimoto since last year has said that he is done with Naruto and he wants to do a sci fi manga. He will be going to the magazine where his his old editor Yahagi works to do that manga. Currently he is the editor of the Boruto manga. His old assistant is the current artist of Boruto. He is not the mangaka of Boruto. The Boruto manga is just rehashing last years movie and it pacing means that it will be doing for at least this year alone.

Its performance is already like trying to keep a person alive on the edge of death.

I know about the new manga. I'm just understanding the Boruto manga thing more. It's been few months I haven't been here

[rocci]

@bail
He's not an editor.

I think by the end of the year, boruto overall sales would be 400k - 600k.
I will not surprise if it get more than that.

Edited by rocci, 23 August 2016 - 12:02 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

500k is my prediction. I do wonder the long term though.

[rocci]

500k is my prediction. I do wonder the long term though.

If for some reason they could generate the same number like naruto, than it could last for indifinetly.

If not, maybe 10 volume.

[TouKen4Life3g]

It depends on how the story goes like if the new guy shows up and already pulling the string, then it won't last long.

[Shadow1275]

Good God how I hate the so call bromance with Naruto and Sasuke and Naruto thinking that there was a bound with them, there was nothing Sasuke was always a kitten to everyone around him.

 

Hence why I know the Walking dead is now better to me than Naruto, I mean come on lets face it really no matter what world Naruto would be in he would die cause he thinks there is good in everyone, oh how good would it be if Naruto meet Negan.

I didn't mind it. The bromance was there and it really explained why Sasuke would be willing to kill everone except for Naruto. I think that Sasuke and Naruto hav a fantastic rivalry, but the ending just kills it completely by focusing on fing pairings instead of the characters themselves

[TouKen4Life3g]

I don't know. It didn't have "enough" ground to keep caring for the bromance, which is why people got annoyed. I got a bit annoyed. I mean I look at other series and they have way more value on why they won't let go those old feelings. A year or less for SNS before part 2 isn't enough to keep the ground steady.

[Bail o' Lies]

@bail
He's not an editor.

I think by the end of the year, boruto overall sales would be 400k - 600k.
I will not surprise if it get more than that.

 

 

 

Creator and Editor: Masashi Kishimoto

 

He has been called that for the first 4 chapters.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 23 August 2016 - 03:36 AM.

[Shadow1275]

 

 

 

Creator and Editor: Masashi Kishimoto

 

He has been called that for the first 4 chapters.

Does it matter at this point? We were defending a husk of a series from Nh andSs zombie idiots who had already stripped away all the merit it had. The ending caters to pairing fans bc it understands this. Naruto was dying long before the ending and was essentially on pairing life support.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

Good God how I hate the so call bromance with Naruto and Sasuke and Naruto thinking that there was a bound with them, there was nothing Sasuke was always a kitten to everyone around him.

 

Hence why I know the Walking dead is now better to me than Naruto, I mean come on lets face it really no matter what world Naruto would be in he would die cause he thinks there is good in everyone, oh how good would it be if Naruto meet Negan.

I blame it on the lack of any good parenting on both sides, but especially Naruto's given his situation, and it's not like the adults really tried to get him to see reality either. The few times they did either Naruto just denied them like the mentally immature child he is ("I'm fine with being stupid!") or literally has an attack (the hyperventilating and crap after Ay's realistic refusal to not kill Sasuke for what he did).

[ultranx]

I didn't mind it. The bromance was there and it really explained why Sasuke would be willing to kill everone except for Naruto. I think that Sasuke and Naruto hav a fantastic rivalry, but the ending just kills it completely by focusing on fing pairings instead of the characters themselves

sora and riku, goku and vegeta, yusuke and kuwabara, yugi and joey, all rivalry, bromance, or both, all done better than this and more believable. oops, almost forgot one, taichi and yamato from digimon.

 

and as narusaku fan in kentucky has said, sora and riku is the same thing as naruto and sasuke, but done so better it makes naruto's writing look like garbage. and people dare to call the last a disney like movie when even disney did a better job than naruto....

Edited by ultranx, 24 August 2016 - 03:48 AM.

[TheFirstEvil100]

I blame it on the lack of any good parenting on both sides, but especially Naruto's given his situation, and it's not like the adults really tried to get him to see reality either. The few times they did either Naruto just denied them like the mentally immature child he is ("I'm fine with being stupid!") or literally has an attack (the hyperventilating and crap after Ay's realistic refusal to not kill Sasuke for what he did).

Yep cause Kishi is a dumb ass who does not see how bad it is all he cared about was making his lover Sasuke looking call and trying to make all the readers feel so sorry for him, hell just look at all the Sasuke fans they say they feel so sorry for Sasuke and how we shoud pity him and he should have been let off for all that he had done, and what is worse they make Sakura out to be worse than she is.

 

But I agree Naruto is also to blame as he kept thinking that Sasuke was his friend someone should have told Naruto that Friends don't try to kill you and they look out for each other, I mean come on Naruto is more stupid then Goku,

 

I mean I said it before man Naruto in any other show he would be dead as the bad guys would kill him.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I can't wait for tomorrow's episode. The most believable power up is coming!

[Nostradamus]

I can't wait for tomorrow's episode. The most believable power up is coming!

Coming back from the dead as a ghost possessing your rival/sort of friend and unleashing BFG that you never possessed and have no clue you can use it or how to use it.

You mean that believable power up?

[TouKen4Life3g]

Coming back from the dead as a ghost possessing your rival/sort of friend and unleashing BFG that you never possessed and have no clue you can use it or how to use it.
You mean that believable power up?

Yes sir!

[TheFirstEvil100]

You know what I wish I had the money to buy Naruto as I would make all the stuff after Pain none-canon then fix it all up from there, I would bring all you guys to help with the story as well to make it what it should have been as well.

[db84x]

Yep cause Kishi is a dumb ass who does not see how bad it is all he cared about was making his lover Sasuke looking call and trying to make all the readers feel so sorry for him, hell just look at all the Sasuke fans they say they feel so sorry for Sasuke and how we shoud pity him and he should have been let off for all that he had done, and what is worse they make Sakura out to be worse than she is.
 
But I agree Naruto is also to blame as he kept thinking that Sasuke was his friend someone should have told Naruto that Friends don't try to kill you and they look out for each other, I mean come on Naruto is more stupid then Goku,
 
I mean I said it before man Naruto in any other show he would be dead as the bad guys would kill him.

Naruto is just work of fiction for kid, preteen and adult who want ran away from reality. Bringing reallity for Naruto same with shake it out for its fans, none of any sensible mangaka willing to do that

[TheFirstEvil100]

Naruto is just work of fiction for kid, preteen and adult who want ran away from reality. Bringing reallity for Naruto same with shake it out for its fans, none of any sensible mangaka willing to do that

Sorry but you keep say that BS, will not change anything as that's all you keep saying kid, preteen and adult gets very, very old and very fast. I mean my go there are a kitten tone of others out there that do far better then what Naruto did, the point of a story is to learn from something to be a better person as you grow up which other kids stories have done far better.

 

charlie and the chocolate factory: what does it teach us to be a good person, what happens to the four other good they get what was coming to them.

 

Lord of the Rings: Saruman what happened to him he died and was a traitor and he died for it.

 

JK even said it in an interveiw when making Harry potter books again for kids and she said hates traitors which she did in the 5th book some back stabbed them and the girl got what was coming to her.

 

I have even seen mangaka like they guy who made Hellsing and fullmetal alchemist with that sick kitten shou tucker and what he did to his own kid I mean there are many more mangaka who do this, and who if the did Naruto would see Sasuke as a kitten who needed to die in the end.

[Bail o' Lies]

Sorry but you keep say that BS, will not change anything as that's all you keep saying kid, preteen and adult gets very, very old and very fast. I mean my go there are a kitten tone of others out there that do far better then what Naruto did, the point of a story is to learn from something to be a better person as you grow up which other kids stories have done far better.

 

charlie and the chocolate factory: what does it teach us to be a good person, what happens to the four other good they get what was coming to them.

 

Lord of the Rings: Saruman what happened to him he died and was a traitor and he died for it.

 

JK even said it in an interveiw when making Harry potter books again for kids and she said hates traitors which she did in the 5th book some back stabbed them and the girl got what was coming to her.

 

I have even seen mangaka like they guy who made Hellsing and fullmetal alchemist with that sick kitten shou tucker and what he did to his own kid I mean there are many more mangaka who do this, and who if the did Naruto would see Sasuke as a kitten who needed to die in the end.

They keeps saying it because they think it is the catch all defense. That it demises any and all complaints and criticisms any of us can lay out against what has happened to the Naruto franchise.  It is like if you see a kitten kids show that is genuinely awful let say like teen titans go or powerpuff girls (let not get into a debate if they are good or not and just say they are bad for the sake of example) or a really awful kids movie. And when you point out how genuinely awful it is people just go "it for kids" which seem to mean "of course it's awful but we have such low expectations and respect for the intelligence of children we think they deserve to only get the absolute worst shlock we can think of."

 

Anyways who is Naruto target demographic? Shueisha is in the job of making money with their manga, so they will sell it to who every they think will give them the most profit.  It has ran for over sixteen to seventeen years by this point the original target demographic of children are adults now even internationally. Also the kids now a days aren't gonna be as invested into the series as they would be for My hero academy or food wars both of which started in their life time so they can get invested in or one piece which is a huge cultural phenomena in Japan that everyone reads. Now looking at the last we can see that Shueisha clearly was targeting the international or more importantly Western or more accurately the US fanbase which was believe to be heavily supportive of nH. The problem is they weren't financially supportive of the series. So they instead shifted focus to the Japanese fan base (which they pissed off with the ending and everything after that) by making Boruto the movie. The thing is that the kids in Japan are once again they not interested in Bolt because it is currently running on nostalgia (which they do not have for the franchise) more then any interesting story, and the parents in japan who grew up reading Naruto are not gonna let their kids purchase Boruto volumes because they do not want their kids to be invested into something they cannot trust not to stab their kids in the back. Leaving the Naruto fanbase only with the Otaku the parasites and outcast of Japan.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 24 August 2016 - 05:50 PM.