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[ALESSE]

It's funny how things turned out like this...not just for NS, but for a lot of things. Although I still have to laugh when some people are saying that "Sauske is so innocent and truly loves Sakura because he doesn't want her to be apart of the gruesome battle of him and Naruto."

Really, people are saying that'. Smh

[FireFox]

For me it was pretty obvious since your description right there speaks for itself, haha. Now, it seems like you like NCIS? I will admit is way better than CSI Miami, Las Vegas, Los Angeles and 30 more versions xD. But i dropped all of them for Criminal Minds...and since you like The Mentalist, there are even more chances. (Lie to me was one of my favorites but it was cancelled. Either way, 3 seasons are enough for falling in love<3)

Now, i will stop.  I don't want to be banned, Jorah!

 

STOP. I don't understand what are you talking about, but that Smiley means problems...

Hehehehe very perceptive lol .  Criminal Minds is my favorite of all Crime Series to but I like series more like Spartacus and Got XD 

 

Its ok My Khaleesi I understand don't want ban either .

 

PS He was talking about rainbows and butterflies  wth did you think he was talking about certainly not about  Hentai .

[Gojira]

Kishimoto Starter fool .
He wants to write a realistic girl but this is chapter proved his statement is nonsense .

Its just him purposefully making his own writing confusing to keep the readers guessing.

 

Who knows maybe the love she was talking about was the love one has for a friend or family member like Kakashi said. Hagoromo did talk about Naruto's love for Sasuke as well. Maybe i'm being too optimistic (which I probably am) but maybe Kishi will clarify that she loves Sasuke but isn't in love with him.

 

Then again its sort of hard to write off what just happened in this chapter as platonic especially after she asked him to stay by her side forever. 

[Nic]

All this complaining about NS being done in a good way. Be glad you aren't an SS fan. Imagine knowing that the only way for your ship to be canon is for one Sakura still wanting the guy that has just genjutsud her into believing he just killed her. Also the same guy that has been tormenting her for years as illustrated in this chapter and two for that same guy to then come back make a 180 and return her feelings out of guilt. So guys could be far worse.

[Don-kun]

The fact that some SS fans really said they found chapt 693 pro SS but I don't get how it is? Also NH? Naruto and Hinata barley talk to each so I don't see how that would happen NS on the other hand of course we all want that to happen I mean I can picture Naruto and Sakura having a good life together and they have a happy relationship.

This is why I use element of surprise because it will be way out of left field in other wirds very unexpected.
But my main reason for my reply is to show how stupid it will make Sakura, Naruto and Sasuke look after this if say user prediction are correct.
Sorry but at this time I just cannot see that anymore and worst before this movie since this movie is nothing but a huge spioler.

[Lilac]

As much as I'd like it to have been platonic, it wouldn't make sense with the wording choices/context. Daisuki+What Sasuke+Kakashi said wouldn't make sense as platonic. Sasuke has no interest in Sakura, so I wouldn't worry.

Edited by Lilac, 27 September 2014 - 04:27 PM.

[ALESSE]

 
Once again, you are arguing a point that is not relevant to what I was discussing.  I was speaking strictly about Sakura's feelings for Sasuke, not Naruto's.
 
It may be your opinion that Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are not self-destructive, but I am not required to agree.  
 
From my perspective, an obsessive devotion and emotional dependence on a person who treats you and your life as totally worthless, who has no respect for your ideals and goals, and who vows to kill people you love is the definition of self-destructive.  
 
Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are certainly not constructive.  They have brought her nothing but pain, shame, and humiliation, and have prevented her from moving on to the true love of a guy who would bolster her sense of self-worth rather than incinerate it at every turn.
 
As for Naruto, I believe his feelings for Sasuke are also self-destructive.  The fact that he's the hero doesn't change that fact, nor does his blind devotion and emotional dependence on Sasuke make Sakura's okay or any less destructive.
 
In my opinion, Sakura's devotion to Sasuke is indefensible because it is based primarily on romantic attachment.  At least Naruto's reason for pursuing Sasuke's redemption is rooted in his nindo.  He believes that to be a true, qualified leader he must be strong enough to correct the dark path of his friend.  Big difference in motivation.
 
And I would not be at all surprised if Kishimoto does bring Sasuke all the way around to where he is open to the idea of a relationship with Sakura.  It would be the putrid icing on the crap cake that has been this entire "love" triangle.  
 
There was a point where I thought Sasuke simply being redeemed and brought home by Naruto would be enough for Sakura to be satisfied, but after this chapter I can see Kishimoto not stopping there, and instead making us endure Sasuke making a romantic overture to Sakura before she chooses Naruto.
 
Yuck.  

Agreed, but I kishi won't be doing that. At best I see a redeemed Sasuke becoming a wanderer with his team.

Your post is on point though. The Japanese depiction of angst and self deprecation is so big that sometimes the authors go alil crazy wth it.

I've read your posts in the past. And they re usually very good btw.

It's still narusaku to me till the end. One chapter ain't gonna destroy so many chapters of growth.
And like I said before she's a confused and hurt mess. Also naruto didn't seemed to fazes by it like he did in the past when she would give Sasuke attention. It seems she knows what she's talking about. Romantic potentially. But I do see a turning point soon. This one last final confrontation had to happen for things to really be resolved.

Though I think a few more years of maturity will be good for Sakura. That's why I fully believe that this fight will be over quick and will be a stalemate. I whole heartedly believe "the last" movie will kick of the new "era" or "part 3". That's where it seems the final true battle will occur. I don't see Kishimoto ending his manga with a "movie". When it is gonna get animated regardless. Especially in less than 12 chapters. Cause I ve never seen any thing like that ever happen before. But that's just me. I could be wrong.

Narusaku still going strong. I see nothing that really hurt this shipping to much.

[Gojira]

Agreed, but I kishi won't be doing that. At best I see a redeemed Sasuke becoming a wanderer with his team.

Your post is on point though. The Japanese depiction of angst and self deprecation is so big that sometimes the authors go alil crazy wth it.

I've read your posts in the past. And they re usually very good btw.

It's still narusaku to me till the end. One chapter ain't gonna destroy so many chapters of growth.
And like I said before she's a confused and hurt mess. Also naruto didn't seemed to fazes by it like he did in the past when she would give Sasuke attention. It seems she knows what she's talking about. Romantic potentially. But I do see a turning point soon. This one last final confrontation had to happen for things to really be resolved.

Though I think a few more years of maturity will be good for Sakura. That's why I fully believe that this fight will be over quick and will be a stalemate. I whole heartedly believe "the last" movie will kick of the new "era" or "part 3". That's where it seems the final true battle will occur. I don't see Kishimoto ending his manga with a "movie". When it is gonna get animated regardless. Especially in less than 12 chapters. Cause I ve never seen any thing like that ever happen before. But that's just me. I could be wrong.

Narusaku still going strong. I see nothing that really hurt this shipping to much.

You mean aside from Sakura just now saying she wants to be by Sasuke's side forever?

[Don-kun]

@Lilac

Sasuke: Thank you Natuto, if it wasn't for you beating some sense in my gead I will never notice how much I love Sakura, because of you now I can finaly be happy with the love of my life.
Sakura: Don't worry Sasuke after loves makes no sense, thank you Naruto for bringing Sasuke back to me I know you really love me but go find Hinata. 😉

[Gojira]

I am still thinking about... Why did Kishimoto take out the promise of lifetime here? If from Sakura's POV, it was gone but the promise is confirmed to being still valid for Naruto (as we just thought). But why? Is he trying to make Sakura happy by bringing her back Sasuke? Or is he just doing it for other reasons? Perhaps for personal reasons due to the fact that he cannot confess to her if he can't be able to make her happy by not keeping a promise?

I don't know, it must have a purpose this whole thing...

Again Kishi's making people confused on purpose, it all comes down to whether he thinks the pay off is worth it....which it rarely is (remember when Obito turned out to be Tobi it was so obvious and dumb people were pissed off)

 

Its not so much Sakura still being in love with Sasuke that destroys her credibility, its her after all of this wanting to stay by his side (which MS Kakashi says was romantic) this is seriously up there with Sakura asking Sasuke to take her with him.

 

Its impossible to accept that she will love Naruto more or even as much as she does Sasuke. Kishi just went out of his way to make his canon pairing a silver medal while demoralizing SS even more literally nobody comes out on top except for NH.

Edited by Pepsi, 27 September 2014 - 03:52 PM.

[Kakashi-Sensei]

[luffyq1]

Look at how Madara was handled and you expect any better for the romance of this story? This guy dug his own grave in the romance subplot just like he did on the defeat of Madara. You're giving Kishi too much credit if you think he's going to do any of the logical scenarios that some of the users have come up with to resolve the romance in this story. Look at how Naruto and Sakura both act around Sasuke and you expect any better for the romance? No way. NS will be canon but it will be poorly executed.

[Geninja]

I still have no idea why anyone thinks this chapter buried NS, if anything it's the opposite SS was buried in this chapter, completely. I get people being upset but why are we jumping to conclusions? Why not see how the next chapter will play out?

 

I hope nobody is throwing the white flag because there is no reason to.

[Don-kun]

Look at how Madara was handled and you expect any better for the romance of this story? This guy dug his own grave in the romance subplot just like he did on the defeat of Madara. You're giving Kishi too much credit if you think he's going to do any of the logical scenarios that some of the users have come up with to resolve the romance in this story. Look at how Naruto and Sakura both act around Sasuke and you expect any better for the romance? No way. NS will be canon but it will be poorly executed.

I 2nd this.

[Kakashi-Sensei]

I still have no idea why anyone thinks this chapter buried NS, if anything it's the opposite SS was buried in this chapter, completely. I get people being upset but why are we jumping to conclusions? Why not see how the next chapter will play out?

 

I hope nobody is throwing the white flag because there is no reason to.

The fact that Sakura still loves Sasuke after all he has done isen't helping.

 

Think about it,

1. Now we have the conformation that Sakura confession to Naruto was fake

2. If NaruSaku happens, the only reason why is because Sakura couldn't get with Sasuke. Naruto would be the second choice.

3. Sakura seems to care more about Sasuke then Naruto. She knows both of them might die. She begs Sasuke to stay and dont even look at Naruto.

[merryGOflava]

so I know we are still on the subject of Narusaku but quick question....

 

when TenTen picked up those things Madara spit out a while back.....did they ever get used???

[DarkRadeon]

One more thing which SS and NH dont understand is that they are claiming Naruto acted indifferent to Sakura's confession because he has moved on from her and this promise is just to make her happy.But if he has moved on the only other possible girl is Hinata and since he has no complications with her why didnt he tell his dad her name in 691?

 

So many things just not making sense.Its as if Kishi  had made a draft of the ending from the start and the development till now was done with a different mindset 

[Lilac]

@Lilac

Sasuke: Thank you Natuto, if it wasn't for you beating some sense in my gead I will never notice how much I love Sakura, because of you now I can finaly be happy with the love of my life.
Sakura: Don't worry Sasuke after loves makes no sense, thank you Naruto for bringing Sasuke back to me I know you really love me but go find Hinata.

 

lol I don't think Sasuke will ever love Sakura, that's why there's no reason to worry. Her love doesn't make sense, but there it is. There's a reason this thread is over a hundred pages long

Edited by Lilac, 27 September 2014 - 04:30 PM.

[Swagkura]

so I know we are still on the subject of Narusaku but quick question....
 
when TenTen picked up those things Madara spit out a while back.....did they ever get used???

Nope.

[Kakashi-Sensei]

so I know we are still on the subject of Narusaku but quick question....

 

when TenTen picked up those things Madara spit out a while back.....did they ever get used???

Nop ! Probably Kishi didin't knew how he would dealt with Madara at this time and he gave himself some options !