He is generalizing, there is a lot of comments in 2ch talking abou a myriad of things, he took a small portion of them and is trying to pass off as 99% of everything that is happening there
Really? Well it's not unreasonable to expect some even-handed proof from all corners of the Naruto community on 2chan then. This poster's bias was clearly influencing his logic, but I expect that he would be willing to offer up communal statements and opinions, or perhaps even have some of his companions over at NF, look the information up for him if requested.
However, our own source within 2chan has admitted to being finicky on who he chooses to cite so neither party can truthfully attest to being the loudspeaker of consensus for what the majority opinion on that website is.
Takl is trustwhorthy? Who denied translating that stuff from 699/700? I don't remeber this. Rikudou was with us during the meltdown and he was acting pretty pessimist and realistically
Also Atheck, you should know that NF (the naruto parts) Is not really that active right now. The only people over there are NH/SS fans. Most neutrals abandoned that kitten in favor of newer and better animes
You're right, TakL is hardly a beacon of honesty and fairness, but there are others who I assume frequent NF considering their use of the word "translator
s", plural
Tiller mentioned the same thing. What value his insight has into the Narutoforums community is questionable though since he admitted to remaining mostly in the anti-nH group, iirc. Feel free to give some evidence of a downtrend in the activity of members who aren't of the accepting nH/SS mindset on the forum though
1- Why is he trying to compare the Last with RTN? An AU movie with not that much of marketing against a marketing beast that was the last, with the hype about being the "canon movie that will tie loose ends" and the "last movie of the naruto franchise",( since the next one will be burrito)
Conch and I were discussing the marketing values of RtN versus "The Last". Both of us agreed that the latter was the crowning achiever in plastering its label and cast faces across billboards, digital ads, stores, ect.
People may have been mislead with the early ads of the movie and by its suggestive titling, however, the nH fan does have a point about the initial buildup to RtN also potrayed a misleading picture of the Rookies having a central placement, especially Sasuke and Hinata, when in the film they were barely present in the first 20 minutes before things cut away to just Naruto and Sakura. Again, it's not quite on the same level of fraudulent marketing as TL, but to suggest that the circumstances aren't comparable is wrong, in my opinion.
2- What trollings? we didn't made anything like hacking yahoo jp did we? those comments are from jp fans, unless they think we are all experts in japanese. Its accounted for that the last didn't live up to its hype in japan. and you know how big part of the western fandom is.
He did mention how quite a few of the low scoring reviews appeared to have garbled Japanese, as if it were written by someone who doesn't write using the language. Of course, he would need to give some examples of these fake reviews before we can say there's a worthwhile case to this besides some disgruntled NS fans from the West posting in English (and those sorts of reviews do exist).
All in all 1.9 billion is a pretty small number for some film with such high grossing opening weekend, so I see this act of sending the last to foreign countries as fast as they can as an act of desesperation. Will it work ? We shall see
Naruto films have never done too amazingly at the box office compared with beloved series like One Piece and Dragonball. Still, it is the highest grossing movie from Pierrot's anime franchise as of December.
3- Does he want the opinions of the naruto fandom or paid individuals who probably didn't accompany the naruto manga? He even talked about youtube lol , doesnt he know that most of naruto reviewers on youtube are biased NH fans.
I wouldn't scoff at the Youtuber reviewers considering that the mangaka himself has admitted to watching one of their videos. These people actually carry more influence than we anticipated.
This just proves that the no refund thing existed lol, and that SP was counting on it, they probably knew about that and knew people who were fans of characters like kakashi and sasuke wouldn't be able to get their money back because of this policy, so in short they used it to their favor
The policy does exist, but it's not the unshared ruse made exclusively for Naruto that people here were exaggerating it as being.
Edited by Atheck, 28 January 2015 - 05:44 PM.