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#2221 Paptala

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 10:59 AM

Sakura wants to be strong enough to make a difference, to protect her precious people (namely her team mates). She doesn't have a long term dream other than seeing her team, her precious people, happy.

It's not supposed to be a long term dream - who knows what her dream will be after that? It's a fair sight better than the very first"dream" she was introduced as having in chapter 4 while sqeeing and blushing over a Sasuke who completely ignored her.

If your friends whom you went through life and death situations were ripped apart, how is it a bad or insignificant dream to want them together and happy again?

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 11:17 AM

QUOTE (Jenskott @ Jul 9 2012, 06:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Canon manga suffice? smile.gif

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I don't know about you but she looks too adorable in that panel.

Is it just me or whenever Sakura is thinking about Naruto in a positive way she brings out the sweetest of smiles. In the filler episode 235 Naruto mentions how Sakura has the cutest smile when she looks at Sasuke (at least when they were kid) but I think he believes that because he's too oblivious to notice how Sakura views him now.

Wouldn't it be interesting if somehow Sai brought up again the topic of how people like to smile when around the person they love, but this time he talks about it to Sakura. He could indirectly mention it by telling Sakura how, when it comes to Naruto, she has a particular way of smiling to him that differentiates from the rest of people.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 11:27 AM

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Sakura wants to be strong enough to make a difference, to protect her precious people (namely her team mates). She doesn't have a long term dream other than seeing her team, her precious people, happy.

It's not supposed to be a long term dream - who knows what her dream will be after that? It's a fair sight better than the very first"dream" she was introduced as having in chapter 4 while sqeeing and blushing over a Sasuke who completely ignored her.

If your friends whom you went through life and death situations were ripped apart, how is it a bad or insignificant dream to want them together and happy again?


I agree. She wants to protect people she cares for. I do not see how it is disappointing. Is not that one of the mark ofs a true heroine?

Compared with it, Naruto's original goal sounds more selfish, since he wanted to be Hokage so everyone got to acknowledge him. I do not blame him -given that he endured-, but his goal revolved around him.

Moreover, that was not her only dream. She also dreamt with surpassing Ino and becoming a good ninja was able fight on her own and did not need her best friend's protection.

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I don't know about you but she looks too adorable in that panel.


I am sorry. I meant "Canon manga will suffice?" sleep.gif

But yes, she looks adorable. Naruto tends to bring the better out of her, whereas Sasuke tends to bring the opposite out. You only have to reread Part II to realize Naruto makes her smiling... and Sasuke gets her sad or depressed.

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#2224 Branden

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 11:39 AM

Who's going to be the next person in this picture?

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 01:33 PM

QUOTE (Paptala @ Jul 9 2012, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sakura wants to be strong enough to make a difference, to protect her precious people (namely her team mates). She doesn't have a long term dream other than seeing her team, her precious people, happy.

It's not supposed to be a long term dream - who knows what her dream will be after that? It's a fair sight better than the very first"dream" she was introduced as having in chapter 4 while sqeeing and blushing over a Sasuke who completely ignored her.

If your friends whom you went through life and death situations were ripped apart, how is it a bad or insignificant dream to want them together and happy again?

You took the words out of my mouth x)

She wants to be strong and courageous, with a "life full of love". (Databook)

I think Naruto is the only one who can give her that. ^^

edit; Branden^ That picture is forbidden for me.

Edited by sushi., 09 July 2012 - 01:34 PM.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 09:15 PM

QUOTE (Paptala @ Jul 9 2012, 12:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sakura wants to be strong enough to make a difference, to protect her precious people (namely her team mates). She doesn't have a long term dream other than seeing her team, her precious people, happy.

It's not supposed to be a long term dream - who knows what her dream will be after that? It's a fair sight better than the very first"dream" she was introduced as having in chapter 4 while sqeeing and blushing over a Sasuke who completely ignored her.

If your friends whom you went through life and death situations were ripped apart, how is it a bad or insignificant dream to want them together and happy again?


And also, I really want to ask, where was it stated that Sakura wants see Sasuke happy? All she did was infuriate Sasuke to no ends. How can she possibly see her constant naggings about asking him out dates would make him happy? All she ever wanted from him was to be his girlfriend. And what is she willing to do for Sasuke? Absolutely nothing. And this is why many SS fail to see this. Even at the Iron Village, she had a chance to negotiate with him to restore the Uchiha Clan, which was original Sasuke's second dream.

There was no mentioning that Sakura wants to participate in helping Sasuke restoring his clan, and she immediately try to kill Sasuke without convincing him to return to Konoha, so that she can come a sex slave (sorry for the curse word). And the thing that keeps me fed up is that NH and SS shippers are using Wikepedia's data as an excuse to describe Sakura imaginary selfless act for Sasuke, stating that she was going to kill him, so that he wouldn't stoop too low. However that's bunch a bull, because we all know that she did it for Naruto's safety, not for Sasuke's sake.



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Posted 09 July 2012 - 09:23 PM

QUOTE (Konoha'sCrimsonFox @ Jul 9 2012, 04:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And also, I really want to ask, where was it stated that Sakura wants see Sasuke happy? All she did was infuriate Sasuke to no ends. How can she possibly see her constant naggings about asking him out dates would make him happy? All she ever wanted from him was to be his girlfriend. And what is she willing to do for Sasuke? Absolutely nothing. And this is why many SS fail to see this. Even at the Iron Village, she had a chance to negotiate with him to restore the Uchiha Clan, which was original Sasuke's second dream.

There was no mentioning that Sakura wants to participate in helping Sasuke restoring his clan, and she immediately try to kill Sasuke without convincing him to return to Konoha, so that she can come a sex slave (sorry for the curse word). And the thing that keeps me fed up is that NH and SS shippers are using Wikepedia's data as an excuse to describe Sakura imaginary selfless act for Sasuke, stating that she was going to kill him, so that he wouldn't stoop too low. However that's bunch a bull, because we all know that she did it for Naruto's safety, not for Sasuke's sake.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 09:30 PM

Oh you guys are gonna love this new excuse I found by the NaruHina fantards.

"Naruto can't date Sakura because they're friends. And friends don't date!"

Uh, HELLLOOOOO if friends don't date then how do relationships start? lmao

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 09:35 PM

I don't really want to believe she did that completely for Naruto but it would make sense. I at least hope she kind of cared about Sasuke, would be a bit of a dramatic change in feelings for her to go from loving to killing. Also for her to kill a friend to save another friend, that's just messed up. Definitely can't respect a person who does that, she would be no different from Danzo, which is unacceptable. Really as much as that seems to make sense, I hope for Sakura's sake that's wrong.

@Dalton, your both bashing and double posting, please edit your posts to fix that...

Edited by Branden, 09 July 2012 - 09:36 PM.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 09:40 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jul 9 2012, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't really want to believe she did that completely for Naruto but it would make sense. I at least hope she kind of cared about Sasuke, would be a bit of a dramatic change in feelings for her to go from loving to killing. Also for her to kill a friend to save another friend, that's just messed up. Definitely can't respect a person who does that, she would be no different from Danzo, which is unacceptable. Really as much as that seems to make sense, I hope for Sakura's sake that's wrong.

@Dalton, your both bashing and double posting, please edit your posts to fix that...

Really? How am I bashing? I'd love to know this brandon. How am I bashing? By saying it's a stupid excuse? That's not bashing.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 09:43 PM

QUOTE (Dalton (I stink at names) @ Jul 9 2012, 02:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
fantards


sleep.gif seriously your the one who posted this I shouldn't have to point it out...

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 09:44 PM

off topic.

but why do you think kishi is making sakura so stubborn about liking sasuke??

i mean we know he doesnt like her and never has.
she knows he never liked her.
he never treated her the best.

so why is she still hung on him? (or THINKS shes still hung on him??)

i just dont get it?

we all know shes would rather hang around naruto

is it the same reason why naruto wants sasuke back? cause hes gone and their attention is on him?? so if he returns will she be able to understand where her heart really is....

i just dont see why kishi is drawing this whole love thing out.....

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 09:53 PM

QUOTE (Dalton (I stink at names) @ Jul 9 2012, 11:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
*claps, chears, headbangs to heavy metal music*

Oh you guys are gonna love this new excuse I found by the NaruHina fantards.

"Naruto can't date Sakura because they're friends. And friends don't date!"

Uh, HELLLOOOOO if friends don't date then how do relationships start? lmao


Same old excuse. I already told them that if NS can't happen because the're friends in the last pairing war. The same rule must implied to NH because Naruto only sees her as a friends.]


QUOTE (Branden @ Jul 9 2012, 11:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't really want to believe she did that completely for Naruto but it would make sense. I at least hope she kind of cared about Sasuke, would be a bit of a dramatic change in feelings for her to go from loving to killing. Also for her to kill a friend to save another friend, that's just messed up. Definitely can't respect a person who does that, she would be no different from Danzo, which is unacceptable. Really as much as that seems to make sense, I hope for Sakura's sake that's wrong.

@Dalton, your both bashing and double posting, please edit your posts to fix that...


Why do you want her to care for Sasuke after all the pain and trauma he'd put her through? If he starts killing the ones she loves dearly. Do you still want her to care for him? Sounds like what a SS would say (not implying thaf you are one).


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Posted 09 July 2012 - 09:53 PM

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Naruto never gave up, why should Sakura?

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 09:54 PM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Jul 9 2012, 09:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
off topic.

but why do you think kishi is making sakura so stubborn about liking sasuke??

i mean we know he doesnt like her and never has.
she knows he never liked her.
he never treated her the best.

so why is she still hung on him? (or THINKS shes still hung on him??)

i just dont get it?

we all know shes would rather hang around naruto

is it the same reason why naruto wants sasuke back? cause hes gone and their attention is on him?? so if he returns will she be able to understand where her heart really is....

i just dont see why kishi is drawing this whole love thing out.....

I asked myself the same question. I say she imagines that Sasuke once was this kind boy, she never really understood he pain. But they obviously developed a teammate bond, and she misses the Sasuke he once was. "the grass isn't always greener on the other side" you know. Maybe she still has hopes for him? In Road to Ninja, she will likely find out that she is not interested in the Sasuke she wanted. He had all the qualities she would like in a boy, but in the end, love is deeper than that. Her bond with Naruto is deeper.

That's really my best answer, I'm not quite sure myself sweatdrop.gif

Edited by sushi., 09 July 2012 - 09:54 PM.

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#2236 Branden

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 09:57 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jul 9 2012, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I asked myself the same question. I say she imagines that Sasuke once was this kind boy, she never really understood he pain. But they obviously developed a teammate bond, and she misses the Sasuke he once was. "the grass isn't always greener on the other side" you know. Maybe she still has hopes for him? In Road to Ninja, she will likely find out that she is not interested in the Sasuke she wanted. He had all the qualities she would like in a boy, but in the end, love is deeper than that. Her bond with Naruto is deeper.

That's really my best answer, I'm not quite sure myself sweatdrop.gif

i still think its just for drama....

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 10:08 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jul 9 2012, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Naruto never gave up, why should Sakura?


She already did when she found out the pain Sasuke was causing Naruto when Sai told her and also when finding out that he joined Akatsuki. Along with Danzo's order to kill him for treason. Yeah she has plenty of reasons to give up on him, however she has decided to believe in them to settle things. She still cares for Sasuke but loving him that's another story.
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Posted 09 July 2012 - 10:08 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jul 9 2012, 09:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i still think its just for drama....

Hey, Kishi is better than that rawr.gif

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 10:29 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jul 9 2012, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She already did when she found out the pain Sasuke was causing Naruto when Sai told her and also when finding out that he joined Akatsuki. Along with Danzo's order to kill him for treason. Yeah she has plenty of reasons to give up on him, however she has decided to believe in them to settle things. She still cares for Sasuke but loving him that's another story.

Well I still think the idea that Sakura would kill Sasuke to stop Naruto's pain just seems wrong. She would be sacrificing Sasuke so that Naruto could be happy. Granted there was no way in hell should could have beating Sasuke it showed what her intentions were. I'm just glad she didn't follow through with it, otherwise she would have gone from the edge, to rock bottom.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 11:59 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jul 9 2012, 06:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well I still think the idea that Sakura would kill Sasuke to stop Naruto's pain just seems wrong. She would be sacrificing Sasuke so that Naruto could be happy. Granted there was no way in hell should could have beating Sasuke it showed what her intentions were. I'm just glad she didn't follow through with it, otherwise she would have gone from the edge, to rock bottom.


It wasn't just about Naruto's pain, but Sasuke alive was a grave risk to Naruto's life. Sakura knew Naruto would keep trying to save Sasuke, where Sasuke could kill Naruto without a qualm.
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