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[swagosaurus]

And if that's what they want then why do they make such claims about how NS can stand on its own two feet? They should believe in their pair and not support such a ridiculous idea of fate bringing the two together. Such BS.

MinaKushi. Red thread of fate, broseiden.

[Fyuria'sLeo]

Theres a break this week right?

[六道仙人]

Juugo & Suigetsu vs Sakura? Sounds reasonable, especially since Sakura is suppose to surpass Tsunade.

Juugo is fine for Sakura. But suigetsu would be the worst enemy for her. Sakura uses a brutal force that is a physical attack. Suigetsu is immune to those kind of attacks. Against him it's better an enemy who is able to use some raiton jutsus.

Theres a break this week right?

the next too

Edited by 六道仙人, 02 January 2013 - 07:19 PM.

[luffyq1]

MinaKushi. Red thread of fate, broseiden.

Yeah, that MinaKushi "parallel" is another issue, and that's for both sides of the fandom.

[swagosaurus]

Yeah, that MinaKushi "parallel" is another issue, and that's for both sides of the fandom.

How is it an issue?

[Don-kun]

You know, you could just say my name. xD And yes, I remember that. And I still stick by that. In a logical fight outside of the manga, Sakura would lose to either one of them but in the manga with Kishi's logic, Sakura would win. Just like how Pain should have logically destroyed SM Naruto but didn't due to plot reasons.

Btw, main characters don't always win. xD Naruto has lost countless times and so has Sakura. That's not a legit argument. Also I never called Sakura useless. Lmao xD


But that's what they want.

No not at all, I just remember having some fierce discussion with members who say that Sakura will never fight anyone of Team Taka members and worst the two guys and even if she does she is sure to lose, while we (because we were many with that mentality) were trying to point out that if by any chance she fights in a life or dead situation against Suigetsu or Juugo she will win, do to the fact that she is a main character and main character always wins, but that person was so critical about Sakura that he kept calling her useless.

If she lose she a dead character that is what I meant, same happen will Pain. Logically Pain should of won, but if he did then Naruto will be good as dead.

Edited by Don-kun, 02 January 2013 - 07:26 PM.

[luffyq1]

How is it an issue?

Because people feel the need to use it as an argument, now it's just plain annoying. They grab on to anything they can that supports their pairing in the slightest, it just oozes of desperation. And here I thought development is all NS needed.

Edited by luffyq1, 02 January 2013 - 07:27 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

If she lose she a dead character that is what I meant, same happen will Pain. Logically Pain should of won, but if he does then Naruto will be good as dead.

Sakura lacks speed, she cant take juugo, maybe she will fight against Karin.
if it happens.

[六道仙人]

Sakura lacks speed, she cant take juugo, maybe she will fight against Karin.
if it happens.

LOL Karin is too weak, he can't fight unless her opponent is Moegi.

anyway we're OT

[luffyq1]

Juugo is fine for Sakura. But suigetsu would be the worst enemy for her. Sakura uses a brutal force that is a physical attack. Suigetsu is immune to those kind of attacks. Against him it's better an enemy who is able to use some raiton jutsus.



the next too

If Suigetsu does engulf Sakura with his water body, can't she just pop open some sleep gas while she's in it? Remember what Killer bee did to him? I'm sure if she does fight those two Kishi is definitely going to utilize her intellect like he did against Sasori.

[swagosaurus]

Because people feel the need to use it as an argument, now it's just plain annoying. They grab on to anything they can that supports their pairing in the slightest, it just oozes of desperation. And here I thought development is all NS needed.

NS has the most development of any relationship of the current generation, so yeah, it's all we need.

I guess I like parallels because it sort of goes along with that whole idea of Naruto's generation surpassing previous ones, not because it's 'proof' of it becoming canon. Every NS/Team 7 parallel has ended in tragedy, romantically. Jiraiya died before he could ever get a chance with Tsunade, Minato and Kushina died before they could live a happy life with Naruto, Rin died right in front of Obito by Kakashi's hand. It would make sense for Naruto and Sakura to work out, given how Naruto has surpassed all of his mentors/his father in all aspects but romance and finding peace.

Like someone stated earlier, Kishi had an interview in the summer where he said all the hints strewn throughout the manga will make sense at the end. Parallels could be considered as part of those hints.

The thing is, NS is the only pairing with parallels. I guess people try to twist it around to support their own pairing, but the fact of the matter is, it's always been NS. Even when people tried to twist ObiRin into SasuSaku, it got debunked when it was sort of confirmed that Obito is a direct parallel to Naruto.

For MinaKushi, besides the love triangle, it's almost a word-for-word copy of the development of Naruto's and Sakura's relationship; I actually can't see how people can twist that into NH.

Edited by swagosaurus, 02 January 2013 - 07:40 PM.

[六道仙人]

If Suigetsu does engulf Sakura with his water body, can't she just pop open some sleep gas while she's in it? Remember what Killer bee did to him? I'm sure if she does fight those two Kishi is definitely going to utilize her intellect like he did against Sasori.

I wouldn't be wrong but Kirabi never used some sleeping gas against him. He just broken his kubikiribocho by channeling his sowrds with some electric chakra.

[Arachnia]

NS has the most development of any relationship of the current generation, so yeah, it's all we need.

I guess I like parallels because it sort of goes along with that whole idea of Naruto's generation surpassing previous ones, not because it's 'proof' of it becoming canon. Every NS/Team 7 parallel has ended in tragedy, romantically. Jiraiya died before he could ever get a chance with Tsunade, Minato and Kushina died before they could live a happy life with Naruto, Rin died right in front of Obito by Kakashi's hand. It would make sense for Naruto and Sakura to work out, given how Naruto has surpassed all of his mentors/his father in all aspects but romance and finding peace.

Like someone stated earlier, Kishi had an interview in the summer where he said all the hints strewn throughout the manga will make sense at the end. Parallels could be considered as part of those hints.

The thing is, NS is the only pairing with parallels. I guess people try to twist it around to support their own pairing, but the fact of the matter is, it's always been NS. Even when people tried to twist ObiRin into SasuSaku, it got debunked when it was sort of confirmed that Obito is a direct parallel to Naruto.

For MinaKushi, besides the love triangle, it's almost a word-for-word copy of the development of Naruto's and Sakura's relationship; I actually can't see how people can twist that into NH.

since chapter 615 it kinda looks like Kishi trying too make hinata look more like kushina too me at least is it coincidence i dont know but kinda hope so on that part could be the start of something at the very least.
But i also agree with you for now this hinata moment + the confession is nothing in comparison to all the NS moments what would be a waste if it was just for the fun of it all.

[swagosaurus]

since chapter 615 it kinda looks like Kishi trying too make hinata look more like kushina too me at least is it coincidence i dont know but kinda hope so on that part could be the start of something at the very least.
But i also agree with you for now this hinata moment + the confession is nothing in comparison to all the NS moments what would be a waste if it was just for the fun of it all.

How is Hinata...anything like Kushina, lmfao? If you're talking about Kurama, and his little quip about Minato and Kushina, he didn't even mention Hinata. He only talked about Neji's sacrifice.

[luffyq1]

NS has the most development of any relationship of the current generation, so yeah, it's all we need.

I guess I like parallels because it sort of goes along with that whole idea of Naruto's generation surpassing previous ones, not because it's 'proof' of it becoming canon. Every NS/Team 7 parallel has ended in tragedy, romantically. Jiraiya died before he could ever get a chance with Tsunade, Minato and Kushina died before they could live a happy life with Naruto, Rin died right in front of Obito by Kakashi's hand. It would make sense for Naruto and Sakura to work out, given how Naruto has surpassed all of his mentors/his father in all aspects but romance and finding peace.

Like someone stated earlier, Kishi had an interview in the summer where he said all the hints strewn throughout the manga will make sense at the end. Parallels could be considered as part of those hints.

The thing is, NS is the only pairing with parallels. I guess people try to twist it around to support their own pairing, but the fact of the matter is, it's always been NS. Even when people tried to twist ObiRin into SasuSaku, it got debunked when it was sort of confirmed that Obito is a direct parallel to Naruto.

For MinaKushi, besides the love triangle, it's almost a word-for-word copy of the development of Naruto's and Sakura's relationship; I actually can't see how people can twist that into NH.

People love to stress the parallels whenever their in an argument, to the point where it seems like they're using it as "proof" of their pair becoming canon. Sure, the old team 7 parallel has ended in tragedy. But that doesn't automatically mean that it'll be Naruto who ends up with Sakura. That parallel can just as easily be used against NS by having Naruto support her romantic relationship if SS were to ever happen. I mean after all, Naruto is a selfless guy who wants to make Sakura as happy as she can be. Tragedy averted.

And Jiraiya not having a chance with Tsunade? Well isn't Naruto going on dates with Sakura considered as having a chance? Looks like it to me.

For the love of God stop using that same argument of "surpassing the old generation". You guys only use that when it pertains to your pair. In fact, "surpassing the old generation" is more emphasized on strength than falling in love. It was used for Hokage when it came to Minato and the Rasengan. It was used when it came to Jiraiya's sage mode and the BS of world peace. That is what it focuses on more. In other words, it's not a strong argument as others make it out to be.

If someone is going to use Kishi's interviews as an argument, then the least they can do is provide evidence for that claim. Is that too much to ask?

Edited by luffyq1, 02 January 2013 - 08:16 PM.

[Mistraal]

Sakura lacks speed, she cant take juugo, maybe she will fight against Karin.
if it happens.

I'm not really understanding where people are getting off thinking Sakura is this weak. Sakura would destroy Karin simply because Karin is a non-combatant.

[StriderC]

People love to stress the parallels whenever their in an argument, to the point where it seems like they're using it as "proof" of their pair becoming canon. Sure, the old team 7 parallel has ended in tragedy. But that doesn't automatically mean that it'll be Naruto who ends up with Sakura. That parallel can just as easily be used against NS by having Naruto support her romantic relationship if SS were to ever happen. I mean after all, Naruto is a selfless guy who wants to make Sakura as happy as she can be.

And Jiraiya not having a chance with Tsunade? Well isn't Naruto going on dates with Sakura considered as having a chance? Looks like to me.

For the love of God stop using that same argument of "surpassing the old generation". You guys only use that when it pertains to your pair. In fact, "surpassing the old generation" is more emphasized on strength than falling in love. It was used for Hokage when it came to Minato and the Rasengan. It was used when it came to Jiraiya's sage mode and the BS of world peace. That is what it focuses on more. In other words, it's not a strong argument as others make it out to be.

If someone is going to use Kishi's interviews as an argument, then the least they can do is provide evidence for that claim. Is that too much to ask?

I too don't feel it's about passing the older generation when it comes to love. It's more so about strength, BUT I do however feel that Naruto will actually get the girl when Jiraiya could not, and their relationship in itself is a lot different than the one Jiraiya/Tsunade have had anyway given where they stand now. Sakura could very well be on the road to Naruto. LOL

Even without the parallels that have been shown throughout the manga, NS STILL has development on it's side, and a ton of it. We get their day to day, and not just moments scattered far and wide, or moments that are only moments of encouragement/extreme importance. That's what I feel NH gets a majority of the time. She doesn't get to sit down and eat ramen with Naruto, nor does she talk about his goals, and such. She only really knows of his nindo, and that he's one to not give up... What else does she know about him besides that? They've had a few nice chats here and there but it's not enough to make me feel they'd make a great match given how little time they've spent together.

NS has all of that, and more.

EDIT:

I'm not really understanding where people are getting off thinking Sakura is this weak. Sakura would destroy Karin simply because Karin is a non-combatant.

THIS. You can't say she lacks something when she hasn't had a PROPER fight since her fight with Sasori. And I think people look wayyyyy too much into her fight with a certain guy with a sharingan. It's not that she lacked speed there. It's that he read her movements. Naruto lacked speed there as well, but that doesn't mean he's weak. Juugo would be a great fight for Sakura IMO, and I think she could win. She's no dumbass, and she's pretty strategic in battle.

And who the hell would want to see her fight weak Karin?? I mean really? That'd be an embarrassment since Karin isn't really a threat at all in battle.

Edited by StriderC, 02 January 2013 - 08:22 PM.

[Mistraal]

THIS. You can't say she lacks something when she hasn't had a PROPER fight since her fight with Sasori. And I think people look wayyyyy too much into her fight with a certain guy with a sharingan.

People consider that an actual fight..?

[swagosaurus]

Sakura would mop the floor with Karin, no doubt about it.

[T XD]

Sakura against Juugo or Suigetsu is great for her, she can handle the battle. Even if she fight both of them, she could still handle it.
Juugo and Suigetsu together are somewhat on the same level of Sasori, if not less, and Sakura is stonger than before, she won't use help like she did with Sasori.

Edited by T XD, 02 January 2013 - 08:53 PM.