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[narusaku256]

Everything is said in my post.
I'm just tired of reading SS fans using double standard and twisting anti-SS moment to make them look like pro-SS moment. It's like there was no anti-SS moment in the recent chapters while they are obviously there, but it's like these anti-SS moments are nonexistant except on this forums.

I know and I understand that. It is annoying really. The only moment when they won't be able to say anything is when NS becomes canon. Even then they will call unimaginable names to Sakura and Kishi just because things didn't go their way. I wish we could do something about it. But it is something like, 'Never argue with a fool. He will drag you to his level and beat you with experience'. I really wish we could do something about it. Your anger and venting is understandable.

[Nostradamus]

Quick question. Yondaime means Fourth, right?

[咲耶姫]

I know and I understand that. It is annoying really. The only moment when they won't be able to say anything is when NS becomes canon. Even then they will call unimaginable names to Sakura and Kishi just because things didn't go their way. I wish we could do something about it. But it is something like, 'Never argue with a fool. He will drag you to his level and beat you with experience'. I really wish we could do something about it. Your anger and venting is understandable.

Theses 2 words are a little too strong to describe my feeelings, I'm just annoyed about it. I don't know if I gave the impression of being angry or anything, but that was not my intention, I just wanted to point out something that is bothering me. 

[Inferno180]

Everything is said in my post.

I'm just tired of reading SS fans using double standard and twisting anti-SS moment to make them look like pro-SS moment. It's like there was no anti-SS moment in the recent chapters while they are obviously there, but it's like these anti-SS moments are nonexistant except on this forums.

 

Its because the fans cannot handle that SS is otherwise wounded and bleeding out, its just been portrayed as negative so much its like how the hell can people even expect it when sasuke outright admits he was not intent on saving her or kakashi when they fell towards the lava? But then again, given what viz did with kushinas foreshadow, I expect they do the same thing even to 663 making sakuras moment seem less impactive and making her seem less than worried. The deal with Viz is that, why the hell do they change the original dialouge at times when there is no reason too, its not accomplishing anything, I seriously need to ask, is it that hard to convert the dialouge of "find someone like your mother" to instead needing to make new dialogue that almost suits what they think the story is? the new line actually being longer too? I dont even speak japanese and even I know from the raw panel of kushinas last words with the foreshadow, everything is there, everything is present, so what purpose could they accomplish or hope to accomplish just for this? Theres no point. in this, it was just a stupid decision that mislead people.

[narusaku256]

Theses 2 words are a little too strong to describe my feeelings, I'm just annoyed about it. I don't know if I gave the impression of being angry or anything, but that was not my intention, I just wanted to point out something that is bothering me. 

My apologies for misunderstanding.

[tekopi]

Quick question. Yondaime means Fourth, right?

Yep. Yon = Four, Yondaime is Fourth.

[Hiddlestoner]

Her and Mei seem to have the same eye color   

Oh yeah, I didn't realised that. Thanks for pointing it out.

 

 

i'm so tired of seeing every anti-SS moments becoming official pro-SS moment. Now, 675 is officially a pro-SS moment, and saying otherwise is not reading and interpreting the manga correctly. And it's the same thing for all the little ant-SS we got in the previous chapters. All theses moment, Kakashi's statement included proves that Sakura loves Sasuke so much and that she will never stop loving him and could never get in a relationship with Naruto. 

That's so frustrating to read such a biased point of view everywhere, and the worst thing in that thing is that all this cocky attitude comes from the fact VIZ translation gives them the right to think so by saying Sakura loves Sasuke on a whole different level, while in reality, Kakashi just said the feelings behing her love for Sasuke are different which is totally different and gives another impression, a negative impression concerning her feelings compared to VIZ which gives a positive impression regarding her feelings for him. 

 

And what is really bethering me with SS fans statement of "Sakura still loves Sasuke she will never stop and could never be in a relationship with Naruto" is that it is double standard because Naruto still loves Sakura too, proven in 631, and so he also, until proven wrong, could never get in a relationship with anyone else, but that, no one will admit it, because we are the only one to interpret the manga as it is shown, that's to say, Sakura's feelings are shown negatively on the recent chapters of the war, Naruto not joking or anything when he's answering to his father, or at least, not in the way NH/SS fans are making it sound like he doesn't like her anymore, we don't twist everything like they are trying to make us believe that Naruto has feelings for Hinata and that there are proves of it in the manga, while there are absolutely no proves of such a thing. And don't get me started on the NS/MK parallel, it can go to "Parallel are not real arguments" to "No, MK is a parallel to NH, Sakura is like Kushina only because of her aggressivity!" Sometimes you have to choose what's your opinion on something. 

 

Saying such a thing may also sound like a cocky attitude, but I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking what I've said in this post. 

Yes, it is annoying that they're denying those anti-ss moments and twisting it as a pro ss moment when Kishi clearly shows it otherwise. Its their defence mechanism to deny that theirs' is a sunken ship. Denial is their only means to survival now and let them hang to their fallacies.

Like Baka chan propose, just avoid those forums 

[Nostradamus]

Yep. Yon = Four, Yondaime is Fourth.

Thank you.

[Gojira]

It's not just 675 even the third data book refers to Sakura's love for Sasuke in the past tense.

[咲耶姫]

It's not just 675 even the third data book refers to Sakura's love for Sasuke in the past tense.

If you're atlking about the little picture of Sakura saying she "used to love Sasuke", I think it was not from a databook but only from the SJA. But still, you're right, it's another proof. 

[Gojira]

If you're atlking about the little picture of Sakura saying she "used to love Sasuke", I think it was not from a databook but only from the SJA. But still, you're right, it's another proof.

Actually I'm talking about the description of her profile in the 3rd databook

There's a saying: "Turning hardship and grief into nourishment is what makes a sakura, a cherry tree's flower, so gorgeous". Indeed, Haruno Sakura, a kunoichi from Konoha grew up beautifully out of the sorrows she's experienced. The death of a close one, then the parting of ways with the person she loved... But whenever she was hurt, she faced forward, and tearfully vowed to become stronger. Those sorrows engraved into her heart, her predispositions as a shinobi will certainly prove even more fruitful, as she's obtained apprenticeship under Tsunade, the legendary kunoichi. The day when the entrancingly graceful, fully bloomed sakura flower dances upon the battleground is close at hand!"

Found the quote on Naruto Couples wiki

[TouKen4Life3g]

I can only wish it can be 100% point blank clear. It almost feel like we suppose to think that since beginning of part 2 but we either missed it or he just didn't make it clear. I say mix of both. Nevertheless, it will be nice for a clear confirmation down the line. Can always use Sakura's monologue to clear up once and for all. It wouldn't be the first.

[咲耶姫]

Actually I'm talking about the description of her profile in the 3rd databook

There's a saying: "Turning hardship and grief into nourishment is what makes a sakura, a cherry tree's flower, so gorgeous". Indeed, Haruno Sakura, a kunoichi from Konoha grew up beautifully out of the sorrows she's experienced. The death of a close one, then the parting of ways with the person she loved... But whenever she was hurt, she faced forward, and tearfully vowed to become stronger. Those sorrows engraved into her heart, her predispositions as a shinobi will certainly prove even more fruitful, as she's obtained apprenticeship under Tsunade, the legendary kunoichi. The day when the entrancingly graceful, fully bloomed sakura flower dances upon the battleground is close at hand!"

Found the quote on Naruto Couples wiki

Actually, it's not at the past tense: 

 

It is saying そして最愛の人の別れ... meaning "and her separation with her beloved one"

Edited by 咲耶姫, 23 June 2014 - 03:28 PM.

[Gojira]

What else does it say on that page?

[questdrivencollie]

i'm so tired of seeing every anti-SS moments becoming official pro-SS moment. Now, 675 is officially a pro-SS moment, and saying otherwise is not reading and interpreting the manga correctly. And it's the same thing for all the little ant-SS we got in the previous chapters. All theses moment, Kakashi's statement included proves that Sakura loves Sasuke so much and that she will never stop loving him and could never get in a relationship with Naruto. 

That's so frustrating to read such a biased point of view everywhere, and the worst thing in that thing is that all this cocky attitude comes from the fact VIZ translation gives them the right to think so by saying Sakura loves Sasuke on a whole different level, while in reality, Kakashi just said the feelings behing her love for Sasuke are different which is totally different and gives another impression, a negative impression concerning her feelings compared to VIZ which gives a positive impression regarding her feelings for him. 

 

And what is really bethering me with SS fans statement of "Sakura still loves Sasuke she will never stop and could never be in a relationship with Naruto" is that it is double standard because Naruto still loves Sakura too, proven in 631, and so he also, until proven wrong, could never get in a relationship with anyone else, but that, no one will admit it, because we are the only one to interpret the manga as it is shown, that's to say, Sakura's feelings are shown negatively on the recent chapters of the war, Naruto not joking or anything when he's answering to his father, or at least, not in the way NH/SS fans are making it sound like he doesn't like her anymore, we don't twist everything like they are trying to make us believe that Naruto has feelings for Hinata and that there are proves of it in the manga, while there are absolutely no proves of such a thing. And don't get me started on the NS/MK parallel, it can go to "Parallel are not real arguments" to "No, MK is a parallel to NH, Sakura is like Kushina only because of her aggressivity!" Sometimes you have to choose what's your opinion on something. 

 

Saying such a thing may also sound like a cocky attitude, but I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking what I've said in this post. 

In the MK parallel supposedly being NH, they claim that Hinata is like Minato. But is she, really? Minato's not shy or underconfident, more like he's just a lot calmer than the average person and has steadier nerves.

[Phantom_999]

Actually, it's not at the past tense: 

 

It is saying そして最愛の人の別れ... meaning "and her separation with her beloved one"

 

Well regardless, her profile does not talk about Sasuke when it comes to love it, cause it talks about Naruto. All it is saying that Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are a major part of her character development, as overemphasized as it is TBH

[TouKen4Life3g]

Just feel like a nuke is coming loose. This is extremely hard for anti to escape. I mean they can, but the chance is really slim. Makes it worse so far Naruto is doing the Obama to everyone, so things are going to be on his favor, just as the series' name intended. I don't know, but I feel like a compilation of "No!!!" is something they may get ready to post. Only way to prologue it is a flashback for a volume. But we shall see.

[Gojira]

What do you guys think the moment was that gave Naruto the confident impression that Sakura is his girlfriend?

Or was he just looking back at their relationship overall?

[TouKen4Life3g]

What do you guys think the moment was that gave Naruto the confident impression that Sakura is his girlfriend?

Or was he just looking back at their relationship overall?

I wish I truly know. If the confession is 100% real (not including dump Sasuke), then that may be it. He probably thinking yes but it's complicated. The friendship days is over until both agreed to stay friend and not complicate things. I just wonder why Naruto got to be the one to answer if Minato asked her, not him. Dodged the bullet, I persume.

[Gojira]

I wish I truly know. If the confession is 100% real (not including dump Sasuke), then that may be it. He probably thinking yes but it's complicated. The friendship days is over until both agreed to stay friend and not complicate things. I just wonder why Naruto got to be the one to answer if Minato asked her, not him. Dodged the bullet, I persume.

I think its real otherwise the cliffhanger would have ended with Naruto telling Skaura her joke isn't funny as oppose to her lying to herself about switching from Sasuke to him. And really it was more about her giving up on Sasuke then leaving him romantically (Naruto's flashbacks sort of reinforce this)

 

I just wonder why Kishi was keeping SS alive just so he could have the murder attempt kill it off completely. I don't really get the big impact of why the murder attempt on Sakura's life was so surprising to Kakashi and Naruto considering Sasuke already made an attempt at taking Naruto's life how many times? Even when he was still a good guy during the whole Hebi arc (refusing to kill people telling Suigetsu not to kill people even if they were criminals and prisoners nobody cares about) he still nonchalantly was getting ready to kill the two people who never gave up on him, kind of confusing really.