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[Gravenimage]

Now that I think about it this movie will be a pairing war disaster and even if Sasuke and Hinata are not real that won't stop the fandom, the same goes with fan fiction.

[ciardha]

Ohana is more of a Sasuke fan and she doesn't like Naruto and Sakura. I notice the times she uploaded manga spoilers whenever there was something about Naruto and Sakura she will somehow twist the words as it reflected some slight bashing, I'm not the only one who noticed. But anyway like Codus said she's trolling if we remember that scene from the trailer when Sasuke is offering the rose to her, with the way she was tightly holding her robe and her expression there's no way her heart will start beating fast as a romantic sign, more like beating fast from the sudden shock.

Yep, most western fans don't get that "doki doki" is also for a heart racing from panic. And considering Sakura's expression and body language in the trailer, it's panic. Like I said, she's freaking out inside because Sasuke is kind of stalking her.

[AzureWaters]

We didn't see the entire scene from the trailer, though. There's no way to determine Sakura's reaction to being given the flower, if she accepts it or what.

I also don't think her body-language said that she was freaked out. She looked startled, and from what I could see, blushed.

When the picture is released, there will be a better understanding.

[Living Lavish]

Why the f!ck is Kishi doing this? why hasn't he advertised Naruto and Sakura together? Naruto loves Sakura. I thought he was the main f!ckin character yet he keeps fanwanking Sasuke.

But i still feel and trust there will be meaningful NaruSaku moments in the movie, Sakura will not like this sasuke she'll slowly start to miss Naruto and her bond to him. to disregard their development would make no sense. plus Sakuras feelings STILL arent clear on how she feels about Naruto (not saying it will be cleared up in this movie, but it will be built on)

Edited by Living Lavish, 28 June 2012 - 03:54 PM.

[Paptala]

Your right she could be freaking out because of Sasuke stalking her, that makes a lot of sense her reaction also proves that she isn't that comfortable, but you are forgetting that this stuff is made by Kishi he is the one behind all of this crap and he is highlighting it has something beautiful. Kishi already made a statement that the moment Sakura saw Naruto again he made her heart beat faster but no one on this forum made any excuse for that statement, know when he says Sasuke made her heart beat fast it's negative.

Sasuke saying that he like her hair, Sasuke handing her a flower, I will always be your friend. Kishi is advertising SS not NaruSaku or NaruHina he already advertised SS three times.

The fact that he keeps highlighting this pairing is something to worry about, and lets not forget that SS is loved in other countries because of people needing Sakura out of NH way, but in Japan and other asian cuture that isn't the case they genuinely love it, people really love SS and by a big margin over NaruSaku.

The only positive side I can see for Sakura character is that Kishi is planning to give her all these great thing only show that she already mature and she isn't that little girl any more, and by the end she will walk away from her fantasy life and her new great. That would be a great way to shut up the hater. But if you ask me who Kishi prefers to glorify? We all know the answer.

If popularity determined which pairings Kishi wanted to make canon though, then why isn't he glorifying KakaIru, by far the most popular pairing in Japan? If he wanted to actually glorify SS, then why make it so one sided in part one, ignore it for the majority of part 2, and then when it is brought up again - present it in such a negative light?

You are basing your entire argument on one picture in a magazine (with Naruto appropriately freaking out), and literally a 3 second clip of a comedic genjutsu opposite Sasuke giving Sakura a rose - neither of which is canon material. What exactly is there to worry about? Sakura's reaction to Sasuke giving her the rose has even less weight than her blushing over Inari's compliment that she was pretty in 451 - at least the latter was canon.

Edited by Paptala, 28 June 2012 - 04:43 PM.

[Gravenimage]

If popularity determined which pairings Kishi wanted to make canon though, then why isn't he glorifying KakaIru, by far the most popular pairing in Japan? If he wanted to actually glorify SS, then why make it so one sided in part one, ignore it for the majority of part 2, and then when it is brought up again - present it in such a negative light?

You are basing your entire argument on one picture in a magazine (with Naruto appropriately freaking out), and literally a 3 second clip of a comedic genjutsu opposite Sasuke giving Sakura a rose. Trust me when I say there is nothing to worry about at the juncture.

Not just Kaka/Iru famous in Japan but Naru/Sasu too.

[Paptala]

Not just Kaka/Iru famous in Japan but Naru/Sasu too.

True, but KakaIru is even more popular than NaruSasu (which actually gets a lot of attention in the manga from Kishi) but barely gets any attention from Kishi - so KakaIru is the best example to show that a pairings popularity isn't going to sway what Kishi does with his story, and therefore the popularity if SS is a moot point.

Edited by Paptala, 28 June 2012 - 04:49 PM.

[Living Lavish]

If popularity determined which pairings Kishi wanted to make canon though, then why isn't he glorifying KakaIru, by far the most popular pairing in Japan? If he wanted to actually glorify SS, then why make it so one sided in part one, ignore it for the majority of part 2, and then when it is brought up again - present it in such a negative light?

You are basing your entire argument on one picture in a magazine (with Naruto appropriately freaking out), and literally a 3 second clip of a comedic genjutsu opposite Sasuke giving Sakura a rose - neither of which is canon material. What exactly is there to worry about? Sakura's reaction to Sasuke giving her the rose has even less weight than her blushing over Inari's compliment that she was pretty in 451 - at least the latter was canon.

You're right Paptala. I just think people are pissed off craving for some NS or something.

Very true. Even when SS and NH were more popular then NaruSaku back in part 1 Kishi still developed NaruSaku anyway.

but people need to stop acting like Narusaku isn't a popular pairing in Japan, its very big. its way ahead of NH also.

One thing that makes me feel happy is Kishi said he already determined the ending of the manga and current & future chapters can't change that.

Edited by Living Lavish, 28 June 2012 - 04:58 PM.

[AzureWaters]

Popularity has nothing to do with it. Kishi does what he finds appealing, and it is not influenced by what or who has the bigger fan base.

Lets be clear-- this is a movie, but I also think some of you got your hopes too high at the chance of getting NaruSaku fan service. Not that expecting such a thing in unfounded, especially considering other Shippuden films, but when things like what I posted get released, it all but causes major disappointment and panic. We may even still get such attention in Road to Ninja, but NS is clearly not the only pairing that will be thrown a treat.

I'd advise to just keep expectations to a medium level regarding this movie. That way when something unpleasant is seen, there's no freaking out.

[Living Lavish]

NaruSaku will get meaningful moments its just inevitable to me. Given how there relationship is developed to something more, there both trapped together in a fake world. Kishi can't avoid this plot hole and major development he would be a bad writer if he did.

Edited by Living Lavish, 28 June 2012 - 05:14 PM.

[ciardha]

You're right Paptala. I just think people are pissed off craving for some NS or something.

Very true. Even when SS and NH were more popular then NaruSaku back in part 1 Kishi still developed NaruSaku anyway.

but people need to stop acting like Narusaku isn't a popular pairing in Japan, its very big. its way ahead of NH also.

One thing that makes me feel happy is Kishi said he already determined the ending of the manga and current & future chapters can't change that.

Yep, and another point on that rose scene that people are missing- Sasuke's expression is smirky- it's obvious he's not being sincere in his words or his gesture. The trailer description even tells you that- charai actually means charlatan.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

we dont have a picture of the magazine so i dont know why the reason of this kitten.

but for some reason i know that the movie will show NS in a spotlight, because only naruto and sakura got struck on that world?
he could just put some AU sakura cant he?
so he draw her parents, he gave a role to her "along" with naruto, they will co-op and find some way, the SS and NH stuff will be for comedy purposes because if he really wanted some SS he would bring the real sasuke to that world too and magically turns him good and start flirting sakura.
i usually tend to ignore Ohana comments for obvious reasons her "spoilers" had 3-4 times it was fake or she change something like she did on sakura's confession, she writes with passion and strong emotions i usually tend to avoid those comments because sometimes u dont get the real information and make kittens like this.

This week really was annoying i hope saturday we got a full trailer and not some extended version of the actual.

Edited by dovahkiin, 28 June 2012 - 06:35 PM.

[Lid]

but for some reason i know that the movie will show NS in a spotlight, because only naruto and sakura got struck on that world?
he could just put some AU sakura cant he?
so he draw her parents, he gave a role to her "along" with naruto, they will co-op and find some way, the SS and NH stuff will be for comedy purposes because if he really wanted some SS he would bring the real sasuke to that world too and magically turns him good and start flirting sakura.

Thanks, exactly what I'm saying

[Living Lavish]

Hinatas confesstion didn't stop or change Naruto's love Sakura.

Since you think Naruto's feelings for Sakura might have changed since Sakura's confession, recently (ch. 569) even the Nine Tails acknowledged that Naruto never changes once he's set his mind on something. He never gives up. It's who he is, and it's true whether he's talking about becoming Hokage, rescuing Sasuke, or being in love with Sakura. His "never give up" attitude doesn't conveniently change just because some people would rather see him (or Sakura) paired with somebody else.

After all seeing Sakura in love with Sasuke never made him gave up on her If the girl you love doesn't love you back won't make him give up, I wonder what else will it take for him to give up on her. Heck, he still isn't giving up on Sasuke who tried to kill him! If a guy killing him doesn't make him give up on his friendship with him, what makes anybody think a girl who doesn't love him back, makes him give up on her?
even when he was for certain Sakura loved Sasuke back during the POAL that didn't stop him loving her anymore he can't turn his emotions off and go with Hinata because he can't have Sakura. he wants to confess after when everything is back to normal after this war.

so that arguement is false and old.

and Kushinas words to Naruto about a girlfriend is a hugh support for NS much more important then any NH moment recently.

Edited by Living Lavish, 28 June 2012 - 07:42 PM.

[redragon88]

I guess what people worry about the most is that for all the hype of Naruto and Sakura sharing screen time in the movie as main characters they might be completely separated for the majority of it. It starts to look as if from the moment they are trapped in the genjutsu they might be together for just five minutes and then have their individual stories only for them to be reunited at the very end. I really hope that isn't the case.

I would be very disappointed if Sakura's story only involves her talking to her parents and Sasuke and nothing else. This would be the only chance she has to interact with Naruto's parents and Kishi would be ridiculous to not make it happen. It would be pretty pathetic if Sakura's only purpose in the plot of this movie was to have nice moments with Sasuke. Seriously, why on earth involve her character at all if she was gonna have such a weak plotline?

Chapter 540 already let us know that she still had some feelings left for Sasuke, but now Kishi wants Sakura's role in the movie to just be the reinforcement of that idea? That's in pretty bad taste, it serves no purpose to her character since it's just telling us what we already know. He might as well not have included Sakura at all and just make an AU character of her like with the others.

I really hope I'm wrong and Sakura's role is more than just being the girl conflicted about Sasuke-kun, that's getting old pretty fast.

[ciardha]

Sakura is a dirty liar she use Naruto's feelings, NS likes to deny that confession later>>>>Nothing. ANS still have that over us.

Uh no. Kishimoto point blank told the Sakura bashers at Jump Festa 2009 that Sakura was being 100% truthful about being in love with Naruto and totally believed that she had eliminated all feelings for Sasuke. Geeze louise people- "lying to yourself" means you believe what you say with every bit of your being and mean it 100% but you've deluded yourself about something. Sigh- as Kishimoto told you at Jump Festa 2009, as Sakura said in 269-70, and as Sai restated in 274- Sakura is in love with Naruto. Naruto accepted her feelings for him- that's obvious when Sai calls him on it, and for acting jerkish just because he got annoyed that Sakura was fooling herself about being completely over Sasuke. Naruto looks a bit ashamed too about his jerkish behavior. It was clear he had accepted her feelings even in 470, he just was acting jerkish because he was annoyed about her being in denial about believing she totally over Sasuke. Of course Naruto was deluding himself too- when Sai talked about Sakura's being in love with Naruto, his mental image of Sakura as she really is now, but when he started insisting on Sakura's still being in love with Sasuke his mental image of Sakura is of 12 year old Sakura right after team 7 forms, not even of the 13 year old Sakura he made the POAL to, much less Sakura of the present. Sai finally gets through to Naruto that while Sakura may have been fooling herself that she was totally over Sasuke, Naruto was equally guilty of fooling himself that Sakura was still the 12 year old Sasuke fangirl that was completely unattainable to Naruto. Sakura's heart and soul is focused on Naruto. She sees Sasuke as a threat to Naruto's safety and to the whole ninja world, thus she went to kill Sasuke to save Naruto, even though she wrongly believed that would make Naruto hate her. She valued Naruto's life over her own, over Sasuke's, over a chance to be with Naruto. Sai gets Naruto to understand this in 474 and his image of Sakura as the 12 year Sasuke fangirl shatters.

Sakura did not "use Naruto's feelings" she wanted Naruto to know her feelings of love for him to release him from the pain Sai told her in 458 that Naruto was in because of the POAL. She wanted to end his pain, end the POAL by letting Naruto know that she had fallen in love with him. Sai believed this was something Sakura knew about Naruto having done- but she didn't, and Sai felt shame about hurting Sakura for no reason. Sai believed and Sakura too that Naruto's main reason for chasing Sasuke was about that. Sakura was also aware, unlike Sai about the brother-like bond between Naruto and Sasuke. Sakura knew that was a profound danger for Naruto. She was determined to save Naruto out of her love for him. She's intensely worried about what she knows about his plan when he faces Sasuke again, but followed his lead and kept silent about it in front their friends, she wants them to think well of Naruto, she doesn't care if they have a lesser opinion of her....

Sounds quite heroic to me, but bashers try to twist it into something grossly off canon and say nasty things about Sakura. Sakura has had the most painful romantic journey of all the Konoha 12 kids- that's part of her heroic journey, but way too many people (even a few very vocal people who claim to be narusaku fans, but sit there and bash Sakura like the other shippers- which frankly makes their claim of being a narusaku shipper extremely doubtful...) sit around and say things like your quote above. I can't believe anyone could misunderstand what Kishimoto has written to that extreme without having another motive. Thus I believe the people that say things like your quote about are actually Sakura bashers who ship Naruto with another character.

[Living Lavish]

People, Living Lavish stop putting words in my mouth I said the ANS, I on the other hand think that the people claiming Naruto doesn't love Sakura are I**ots, Naruto loves Sakura I just wish Kishi should shut them up the same way he cancel some of the arguments we had against NH and SS.


Sorry my post was mostly focusing on the Manga, the lates news for the Movie was just like the last drop that spilled the glass of water

What I really want to see now is Sasuke flirting with all the girls not only Sakura, just like his description for this movie says that will make everyones happy even if he ignores all the pairings.

But in riality this movie is the last of my worries I strongly believe the focus will on Naruto and Sakura friendship, I just wish he stop annoying us With Sasuke period.
I have already made post stating why I strongly believe Kishi will not use an AU Sasuke and an AU Hinata for romance, like someone else mention also they will only be there to create distraction to show Naruto and Sakura what matters most. Is just sad to see that because a character popularity and his paring with Sakura is alsobeing popular he cannot put it to rest like how he did with NaruSasu in last Jinchuriki's meeting.

English is not my first language its difficult to read your posts.

If you think there idiots why do you say they have these arguements over us? they been debunked and shut down before.

I don't think Kishi has canceled any of are major arguements against them that still stand.

edit:

@RedDragon

I don't see that happening. Naruto and Sakura need to stick together and work to get out. I just don't see them being apart from each other throughout the movie.

Edited by Living Lavish, 28 June 2012 - 08:29 PM.

[Gravenimage]

@ciardha
Because not only the ANS fans think that way but most of the fans think that way, even Sakura's VA made a negative comment about her confession, only we NaruSaku believes the her confession was part truth and part lie, (the Sasuke part) We need Kishi help to get that monkey off her back and cut down and some of the Sakura hate.

Living Lavish
In Naruto forums, someone made a thread asking what was the worses part in the Summit Arc, and most said Sakura lying to Naruto in his face.

Keep in mind that it was even mention in the Interview, Kishi justify her act but still has not made clear and so far even we NS are waiting for Naruto and Sakura to be able to fix the misunderstanding of that confession.

To prove people even justify Sasuke going back kitten crazy and betraying his friend but cannot forgive Sakura. I face palm but it also hurt to read some of those comments.

Kishi said Sakura was telling the truth so I will believe the author of the manga and not the crazy fandom thank you very much. As for Sakura's VA Chie Nakamura is more of a SS fan so obviously she will say something negative about Sakura when it concerns Naruto.

Edited by Gravenimage, 28 June 2012 - 09:57 PM.

[Verilance]

I face palm but it also hurt to read some of those comments.

Then don't read them then cuz they really aren't worth it except to laugh.

I read some doozies yesterday but I didn't let any of them affect my judgement I just consider the source.

people believe what the want to believe and think what they want to think no matter how wrong they may be.

in the end it is just a manga or in this case a movie, one that I probably will never see given my track record of watching Naruto movies

whatever happens I am just enjoying the ride.

readthru update --Click here to view--

reading volume 19 currently and am enjoying the sannin battle

[Living Lavish]

Kishi said Sakura was telling the truth so I will believe the author of the manga and not the crazy fandom thank you very much. As for Sakura's VA Chie Nakamura is more of a SS fan so obviously she will say something negative about Sakura when it concerns Naruto.

This again :smh:

Chie Nakamura never said she was SS fan. what do people get this wrong? infact she implied liking NaruSaku instead.

In fact that same interview she did last year on facebook she said couldn't imagine Sakura being with Sasuke at the end of the manga.

Someone asked her ''Who would Sakura be truly happy with Sasuke or Naruto?

and she said ''i'll leave that up to Sakura to decide''

That interview is certainly somewhere in NaruSaku debate thread because we were waiting on translations but you can look it up.