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[ShippudenGirl]

:l I don't think we should argue if SS is dead or not, personally I think it's unnessecary. Sure we have proof it probably has less of a chance then LeeAnko but it doesn't mean anything till Sakura says "Sasuke is dead to me, I completely hate him etc" and actually mean it or if NS happens (Prays) start fresh people, maybe talk about 484 predictions? I don't know.

[dl316bh]

While you shine your halo,I'm going to enjoy these next chapters and leave the moral superiority to you.

A halo. That's cute. Also acting like I told you not to enjoy the chapters.

Way to deflect what I said.

[Samantha]

Nice chapter! Finally, we have hard evidence that Sasuke has become a complete and utter psycho (by the way that laugh was epic) and the chance of SasuSaku ever happening is ZERO at this point.

[ciardha]

I hope he survives and can help team 7 rebuild itself. It'd be nice to see him teach Sakura some of his tricks as well.

Yeah, some genjutsu and ninjutsu training and see if he can get her speed and stamina up a bit too. Tsunade couldn't really give her much genjutsu training because Sakura was already on the same level as Tsunade in that skill. Actually Kakashi (according to the 3rd databook so take it as you will) is only about a half level above Sakura in his genjutsu abilities (probably due to her defensive genjutsu being higher than his- he started to fall under the Itachi clone's genjutsu where she (and Chiyo, who would have had many years battling genjutsu users over Sakura) was able to completely resist it. She hasn't shown much offensive genjustu training though, and that would be a skill Kakashi certainly could teach her. In part 2 once he saw her physical strength he basically acknowledged that but not in the way he just acknowledged her emotional strength and "will of fire". But as you said he's still not really seeing her as a fighter of skill- he didn't witness her fight with Sasori, and during the second bell test Sakura mainly demonstrated her intelligence and physical strength. I would definitely like to see him acknowledge how he neglected training her and say he will make it up to her now. She's the only one who hasn't had training to increase her skills with Kakashi.

And rather than a romantic bond- ugh, Kakashi and Sakura more have an almost father/daughter bond. Kakashi sort of playing the role of recognizing that the pretty little daughter he wanted to protect from the dangers of the world is now a young woman who is standing on her own two feet and facing the world on her own terms. His job now is to make sure she's as strong as she can possibly be, then step back and let her be that strong woman.

[Gravenimage]

It's not that I want to be arrogant towards the other shippers it's just that to me this chapter pretty well tells us that S/S is impossible to happen in the manga. It's like Kishi himself just burned the pairing and buried it into the center of the earth. We have to be realistic here S/S has always been one sided what Sakura had for Sasuke was just a silly school girl crush that started fading slowly when he left Konoha. Sasuke has never shown any romantic interest towards her only showing some respect as a friend or teammate.

There hasn't been a single S/S one sided moment since he left the village and ever since part 2 started it was the development of N/S and how the reality of the pairing becoming canon started with all of the moments that has been shown since Naruto returned from his training trip with Jiraiya. We all have seen how little by little Naruto and Sakura have grown close to one another and they started forming a stronger bond of friendship than the one he had with Sasuke. Sakura sees Sasuke again at 305 if I'm not mistaken she doesn't cries she doesn't hugs him because she missed him or even saying to him I love you. In fact she was terrified when she first meet him after two and a half years because she could tell he was different not resembling the same Sasuke she once knew.

She meets him again at 482 and she sensed that he was completely different and got all nervous she didn't smiled, she didn't blushed or even shed a teard because she has missed him. The fact that she found out that he joined Akatsuki and tried to capture the eight tails provoking a war with Konoha and cloud didn't help her view on him either. Then with this chapter 483 she was planning to kill him all along joining him was just an act to get closer to him and deliver a finishing blow but her plan backfired when Sasuke tried to kill her. Even if she would have kill Karin Sasuke would have still killed her.

My point is that there just so much N/S development in the entire manga and almost nothing of S/S or N/H for the matter. It's been 483 chapters in the manga and Kishi hasn't done any slow and strong development with S/S and N/H the same way he has done with N/S. Anyone can guess that by now Kishi has been following the N/S path since part 2 started in which he stated that he was going to focus on romance and make a canon pairing with development. I think he has already made up his mind by now which is the couple that he decided to develop and make canon. He's even following the rules of the shonen genre pairing the protagonist with the tsundere.

Sakura doesn't loves Sasuke she finally sees that he has changed completely for the worst after witnessing that he was going to kill her. Reality facts here Sakura could have given Sasuke the reason to join him that she loves him and she hasn't stop loving him since he left the village and yet she didn't even thought about it why is that? But no she didn't confess to him she only told him that she will join him which it was a possibility for Sasuke to suspect that he didn't buy it. We all saw how shocked she was when he told her his goal to destroy Konoha and how she hesitate agreeing with him.

My point is after seeing the entire N/S development since 245 do we need anymore proof that N/S is the pairing with the highest rate of becoming canon that the others??? because right now has S/S has 0.1% thanks to this chapter and N/H is in the same scale I don't see Naruto doing a 180 turn in his heart and fall for Hinata. If he hasn't shown any romantic interest for her since the beginning of the manga then he's not going to start now.

Edited by Gravenimage, 19 February 2010 - 03:29 AM.

[Insurrection]

While you shine your halo,I'm going to enjoy these next chapters and leave the moral superiority to you.

A halo. That's cute. Also acting like I told you not to enjoy the chapters.

Way to deflect what I said.

Okay enough, no infighting here or then we really are no better, the "I've had it!" topic is still there so I can prove my point with how idiotic this fight is.

It's not that I want to be arrogant towards the other shippers it's just that to me this chapter pretty well tells us that S/S is impossible to happen in the manga. It's like Kishi himself just burn and buried into the center of the earth. We have to be realistic here S/S has always been one sided what Sakura had for Sasuke was just a silly school girl crush that started fading slowly when he left Konoha. Sasuke has never shown any romantic interest towards her only showing some respect as a friend or teammate.

There hasn't been a single S/S one sided moment since he left the village and ever since part 2 started it was the development of N/S and how the reality of the pairing becoming canon started with all of the moments that has been shown since Naruto returned from his training trip with Jiraiya. We all have seen how little by little Naruto and Sakura have grown close to one another and they started forming a stronger bond of friendship than the one he had with Sasuke. Sakura sees Sasuke again at 305 if I'm not mistaken she doesn't cries she doesn't hugs him because she missed him or even saying to him I love you. In fact she was terrified when she first meet him after two and a half years because she could tell he was different not resembling the same Sasuke she once knew.

She meets him again at 482 and she sensed that he was completely different and got all nervous she didn't smiled, she didn't blushed or even shed a teard because she has missed him. The fact that she found out that he joined Akatsuki and tried to capture the eight tails provoking a war with Konoha and cloud didn't help her view on him either. Then with this chapter 483 she was planning to kill him all along joining him was just an act to get closer to him and deliver a finishing blow but her plan backfired when Sasuke tried to kill her. Even if she would have kill Karin Sasuke would have still killed her.

My point is that there just so much N/S development in the entire manga and almost nothing of S/S or N/H for the matter. It's been 483 chapters in the manga and Kishi hasn't done any slow and strong development with S/S and N/H the same way he has done with N/S. Anyone can guess that by now Kishi has been following the N/S path since part 2 started in which he stated that he was going to focus on romance and make a canon pairing with development. I think he has already made up his mind by now which is the couple that he decided to develop and make canon. He's even following the rules of the shonen genre pairing the protagonist with the tsundere.

Sakura doesn't loves Sasuke she finally sees that he has changed completely for the worst after witnessing that he was going to kill her. Reality facts here Sakura could have given Sasuke the reason to join him that she loves him and she hasn't stop loving him since he left the village and yet she didn't even thought about it why is that? But no she didn't confess to him she only told him that she will join him which it was a possibility for Sasuke to suspect that he didn't buy it. We all saw how shocked she was when he told her his goal to destroy Konoha and how she hesitate agreeing with him.

My point is after seeing the entire N/S development since 245 do we need anymore proof that N/S is the pairing with the highest rate of becoming canon that the other??? because right now has S/S has 0.1% and N/H is in the same scale I don't see Naruto doing a 180 turn in his heart and fall for Hinata. If he hasn't shown any romantic interest for her since the beginning of the manga then he's not going to start now.

Not to be mean to you Gravenimage, I understand you have good intentions but this is starting to get old by stating the facts of development over and over. Let's just focus on what happens next. The Kakashi fight for example or who Naruto will see first.

Edited by Insurrection, 19 February 2010 - 03:30 AM.

[dfammer]

I think Naruto will see Sakura and Karin first,what he is going to say is anyones guess,I just hope he dosen't pass out again

Edited by dfammer, 19 February 2010 - 03:37 AM.

[dl316bh]

who Naruto will see first.

He'll meet Optimus Prime first, of course.

... What? Stop staring at me like that.

[Gravenimage]

I think Naruto will see Sakura and Karin first,what he is going to say is anyones guess,I just hope he dosen't pass out again:)

I highly doubt that because I think Kishi has already done enough to make Naruto look like a wuss.

[Derock]

He'll meet Optimus Prime first, of course.

... What? Stop staring at me like that.

LOL!!! I rather have Optimus Prime kill the psycho (couldn't resist)

[Insurrection]

LOL!!! I rather have Optimus Prime kill the psycho (couldn't resist)

We need a vid of that, quick to youtube!

[Serenity Namikaze]

I highly doubt that because I think Kishi has already done enough to make Naruto look like a wuss.

Sadly, I can't disagreed with you on this one *sigh*

I sure hope that on the upcoming chapters, Naruto will prove us that he can take this difficult subject seriously and will not acting like an idiot and a weakling. I kind of wish to see the Naruto that fought Pein once again.

[dl316bh]

LOL!!! I rather have Optimus Prime kill the psycho (couldn't resist)

Perhaps that could happen. Megatron is quite the silver tongued devil. Being the easily deceived dunce that he is, Sasuke is quickly turned into Megatrons pawn like he yutz that he is. Seeing that such a destructive tag team could be difficult for him, Optimus teams with Naruto for the fate of the world.

The final battle takes place in the STEEEEEEEL CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!

Edited by dl316bh, 19 February 2010 - 03:55 AM.

[Insurrection]

Perhaps that could happen. Megatron is quite the silver tongued devil. Being the easily deceived dunce that he is, Sasuke is quickly turned into Megatrons pawn like he yutz that he is. Seeing that such a destructive tag team could be difficult for him, Optimus teams with Naruto for the fate of the world.

The final battle takes place in the STEEEEEEEL CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!

At this point I can totally see Sasuke as Starscream. (Image of Starscream with sharingan and sasuke hair).

[dl316bh]

At this point I can totally see Sasuke as Starscream. (Image of Starscream with sharingan and sasuke hair).

Oh totally. Sasuke got rid of Orochimaru when the dude was of no use to him anymore. Starscream is always plotting Megatron's downfall. Schemers.

Except being a jet is too cool to be wasted on Sasuke, but otherwise...

[Insurrection]

Oh totally. Sasuke got rid of Orochimaru when the dude was of no use to him anymore. Starscream is always plotting Megatron's downfall. Schemers.

Except being a jet is too cool to be wasted on Sasuke, but otherwise...

Madaratron comes out to bash Sasuscream on the head for trying to circumvent his authoritay.

[Serenity Namikaze]

Guys, you all confuse me with the Starscream and Megatron vs Sasuke and Orochimaru

Can we come back to the chapter 483 please

[tricksie]

On a more serious note, I think Madara and/or Sasuke will try to kill Karin eventually, as Madara said "She knows too much" or something like that....

Yeah, I thought of that too, that Madara could drop down on them as soon as they leave. You know he can't be too far away, or at least have Aloe Vera watching over Sasuke for him.

On another note, did it strike anyone else as weird that Sasuke wanted Itachi back, then his mother and father, then the clan? I understand he's all soft on Itachi now, but his older brother still killed his parents, and wiped out the rest of his clan, top to bottom. I can't imagine that civilian mothers, grandmothers and children would have presented a threat - Sasuke's own mother included - but Itachi (and Madara) snuffed out their lives anyway.

It's like Sasuke's desperately wanting the impossible, to have Itachi and his parents AND a happy little clan. But if he has Itachi, then he can't have his parents, etc. etc.

Also, I hope that Kakashi says something to him other than 'don't seek revenge,' read: 'don't do anything.' It seemed so hollow. Sasuke, in all his craziness, just let the only family he's ever had know what he really truly wants above anything, and how much he willing to hurt the people who took that from him. If Kakashi really still loves him, he should tell him what to do with his anger, how to move past it. Not to open himself up to be used by Madara.

Maybe pull the old baby wolf trick. "Look Sasuke, is that a baby wolf? It ran toward the Hidden Mist, and I think it had your clan in it's mouth. Go get it!" (Of course, insert appropriate enemy as destination. And don't bother responding to that I'm suggesting Kakashi use Sasuke too. I know it! )

So anyway, that's the end of Dr. Kakashi episode for today. We've seen how to partially build up one neglected student, before dropping her again to focus on the bonehead that never learned. Next time, what to do when a hothead and a blockhead face off. I smell Icha Icha! See you next week folks, same Bat time, same Bat place!

[dl316bh]

Guys, you all confuse me with the Starscream and Megatron vs Sasuke and Orochimaru

Can we come back to the chapter 483 please

Butbutbut...

Okay fine geez.

Ruinin' my good time...

*dejectedly kicks dirt*

[Serenity Namikaze]

On another note, did it strike anyone else as weird that Sasuke wanted Itachi back, then his mother and father, then the clan? I understand he's all soft on Itachi now, but his older brother still killed his parents, and wiped out the rest of his clan, top to bottom. I can't imagine that civilian mothers, grandmothers and children would have presented a threat - Sasuke's own mother included - but Itachi (and Madara) snuffed out their lives anyway.

It's like Sasuke's desperately wanting the impossible, to have Itachi and his parents AND a happy little clan. But if he has Itachi, then he can't have his parents, etc. etc.

Interesting point of view,

I, too, found it strange the 'bring back Itachi yada yada yada...then I'll stop'. I guess that, even if Itachi kill all of the clan, he only see that his brother have been force to do it while we know that Itachi, even if he have been ordered, didn't want the Uchiha to start war within Konoha.

Butbutbut...

Okay fine geez.

Ruinin' my good time...

*dejectedly kicks dirt*

Sorry to bust you're bubble and you're fun, I didn't mean it to offense you

Edited by silverserenity, 19 February 2010 - 04:37 AM.