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Posted 16 February 2010 - 01:25 AM

QUOTE (Insurrection @ Feb 16 2010, 02:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
God and Artist willing.

I've got one.

Say Sakura and Sasuke do fight, Sasuke's weak and Sakura can take her opprotunity to punch him after crossing the bridge. Naruto and Kakashi get there when she's going to deliver the killing blow, they stop her because we know Naruto doesn't want Sasuke dead, yet. They take him back to Konoha, where he recovers, escapes and attacks the village to take out Koharu and Homura as they watch. In between Sakura and Naruto argue and learn more about Sasuke from the half dead Karin and what Kakashi and Naruto know. There'll probably be some arguing.
Then after the attack Kakashi has to lead the rebuilding effort, Sakura sees what he no longer is and regrets not killing him, and Naruto is confronted with the ugly truth while Madara helps him escape while he continues to go blind.

I'm probably going to get bashed for this, but what does anyone think about this idea?


Well, it very different and interesting theory then most I've read so far.

The only weak point that I could find is if Madara interfere.


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Posted 16 February 2010 - 01:30 AM

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Feb 15 2010, 07:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's actually a really good prediction a_thumbs.gif
Though...
Sasuke getting caught just like that, eh... And the fact that they'd keep him captive when every Kage wants him dead, it seems a little tight, but still i'll keep an open mind you never know, this IS Masashi Kishimoto were talking about here.. heheelq7.png


Yeah, but Sakura could get there and it might go like this...

Sasuke: Hn, fine you first
Sakura: But what about her?
Karin: .......
Sasuke: She's a burden, weak
Sakura smiles: Hai, you're always right Sasuke-kun
Karin could die with her last words: "She's lying."

Sasuke: *
Sakura swings around and punches the ground

If you want a Tsunade parallel, there you go.

Edited by Insurrection, 16 February 2010 - 01:40 AM.


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Posted 16 February 2010 - 01:34 AM

QUOTE (Insurrection @ Feb 15 2010, 08:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
God and Artist willing.

I've got one.

Say Sakura and Sasuke do fight, Sasuke's weak and Sakura can take her opprotunity to punch him after crossing the bridge. Naruto and Kakashi get there when she's going to deliver the killing blow, they stop her because we know Naruto doesn't want Sasuke dead, yet. They take him back to Konoha, where he recovers, escapes and attacks the village to take out Koharu and Homura as they watch. In between Sakura and Naruto argue and learn more about Sasuke from the half dead Karin and what Kakashi and Naruto know. There'll probably be some more arguing.
Then after the attack Kakashi has to lead the rebuilding effort, Sakura sees what he no longer is and regrets not killing him, and Naruto is confronted with the ugly truth while Madara helps the Uchiha escape while he continues to go blind.

I'm probably going to get bashed for this, but what does anyone think about this idea? It'll probably take more than a volume.


I don't think anyone's going to bash you. It's a rational guess actually from Kishimoto's plotlines. I'm just figuring a Sanin battle parallel is more likely, all the guesses we've all made here could be wrong though. Just have to wait and see.
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Posted 16 February 2010 - 01:42 AM

QUOTE (Insurrection @ Feb 16 2010, 01:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, but Sakura could get there and it might go like this...

Sasuke: Hn, fine you first
Sakura: But what about her?
Karin: .......
Sasuke: She's a burden, weak
Sakura bends down: Hai, you're always right Sasuke-kun
Karin could die with her last words: "She's lying."

Sasuke: *
Sakura swings around and punches the ground

If you want a Tsunade parallel, there you go.


I don't think it will be that easy to defeat Sasuke. It true that, right now, Sasuke isn't at his best but he still had enough power to produce a chidori to kill Karin so, I don't see why he can't dodge her attack.


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Posted 16 February 2010 - 01:44 AM

I might be able to make a start off of that prediction, make it a little more realistic like this maybe...:

Sasuke doesn't except Sakura's offer and he's about to kill Karin, Sakura, knowing that he was going to kill her interefers and Sasuke of course gets angry and might wanna start a fight. Remember, Madara isn't there he's with Danzou's body. Sasuke doesn't know what Sakura is capable of, so he might still she her as a compulsive obsessed fangirl; so he starts to fight her quickly figuring out that she's a lot stronger then he actually thought; but Sasuke has faster Taijutsu (So we think) and might be able to dodge her attacks but not forever in his state. Sasuke might get her hurt somehow by Lightning Blade or etc. Sasuke loses too much power and begins to slow down and Sakura hits him, not too much, so he's not dead. Sakura is about to do the final blow when suddenly she hears Naruto and/or Kakashi yell her name. In that split second of her being distracted Sasuke could have hurt her somehow and she keels over; then Naruto yells for Sasuke and/or Sakura and Sasuke makes his escape, somehow. Naruto and Kakashi meet up with Sakura and she gets up and goes over to Karin; Karin then, possibly feeling betrayal by Sasuke, tells them everything she knows about him and Madara and there plot to destroy Konoha, making this Karin's final good use as a character and she dies.


To be continued...

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 01:45 AM

QUOTE (silverserenity @ Feb 15 2010, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think it will be that easy to defeat Sasuke. It true that, right now, Sasuke isn't at his best but he still had enough power to produce a chidori to kill Karin so, I don't see why he can't dodge her attack.


I'm not saying she'll hit him on the first punch, but it'll catch him off guard. Then it turns into a fight between a full strength Sakura and a weakened, losing sight Sasuke. I'd give her a chance. In fact it might be a draw if Sasuke still has the strength, who knows. Plus with everyone saying the Tsunade parallel Karin could play the role of Kabuto.

Edited by Insurrection, 16 February 2010 - 01:46 AM.


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Posted 16 February 2010 - 02:04 AM

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Feb 16 2010, 02:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I might be able to make a start off of that prediction, make it a little more realistic like this maybe...:

Sasuke doesn't except Sakura's offer and he's about to kill Karin, Sakura, knowing that he was going to kill her interefers and Sasuke of course gets angry and might wanna start a fight. Remember, Madara isn't there he's with Danzou's body. Sasuke doesn't know what Sakura is capable of, so he might still she her as a compulsive obsessed fangirl; so he starts to fight her quickly figuring out that she's a lot stronger then he actually thought; but Sasuke has faster Taijutsu (So we think) and might be able to dodge her attacks but not forever in his state. Sasuke might get her hurt somehow by Lightning Blade or etc. Sasuke loses too much power and begins to slow down and Sakura hits him, not too much, so he's not dead. Sakura is about to do the final blow when suddenly she hears Naruto and/or Kakashi yell her name. In that split second of her being distracted Sasuke could have hurt her somehow and she keels over; then Naruto yells for Sasuke and/or Sakura and Sasuke makes his escape, somehow. Naruto and Kakashi meet up with Sakura and she gets up and goes over to Karin; Karin then, possibly feeling betrayal by Sasuke, tells them everything she knows about him and Madara and there plot to destroy Konoha, making this Karin's final good use as a character and she dies.


To be continued...


Really nice, I think you manage to regroup all the good point that we mention earlier and put it together.

That could be a good prediction for the upcoming chapter



QUOTE (Insurrection @ Feb 16 2010, 02:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not saying she'll hit him on the first punch, but it'll catch him off guard. Then it turns into a fight between a full strength Sakura and a weakened, losing sight Sasuke. I'd give her a chance. In fact it might be a draw if Sasuke still has the strength, who knows. Plus with everyone saying the Tsunade parallel Karin could play the role of Kabuto.



Sorry, when I read you're theory, I thought that you were saying that Sakura hit him and bang, the job complete tongue.gif

Edited by silverserenity, 16 February 2010 - 02:12 AM.


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Posted 16 February 2010 - 02:09 AM

QUOTE (silverserenity @ Feb 16 2010, 02:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry, I when I read you're theory, I thought that you were saying that Sakura hit him and bang, the job complete tongue.gif

However, i still think that it won't be that easy (even if it not on the first atack, or the second or....well, you got my point)

But you still have a good point. happy.gif


Mmm... Sakura trying to get near Sasuke is hard.

1) She's way on the other side of the bridge (Which is broken
2)Sasuke is mad fast

... Okay, that's all I got

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Edited by ShippudenGirl, 16 February 2010 - 02:09 AM.


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Posted 16 February 2010 - 02:16 AM

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Feb 16 2010, 02:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mmm... Sakura trying to get near Sasuke is hard.

1) She's way on the other side of the bridge (Which is broken
2)Sasuke is mad fast

... Okay, that's all I got

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The bridge is not completely broken (but there is a big round hole in the middle.)

That could be tricky for a confrontation

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Edited by silverserenity, 16 February 2010 - 02:16 AM.


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Posted 16 February 2010 - 02:20 AM

QUOTE (silverserenity @ Feb 16 2010, 03:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The bridge is not completely broken (but there is a big round hole in the middle.)

That could be tricky for a confrontation

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I know, but the GIANT hole is what's separating Sasuke and Sakura *cough* Thank god *cough* I wonder how she'll make it across headscratch.gif let alone save Karin

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 02:21 AM

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Feb 16 2010, 02:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know, but the GIANT hole is what's separating Sasuke and Sakura *cough* Thank god *cough* I wonder how she'll make it across headscratch.gif let alone save Karin

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And that why I said that it could be tricky if they start a fight...not that it impossible but tricky


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Posted 16 February 2010 - 02:44 AM

I just don't think that Sasuke and Sakura are going to fight - at least, not yet. If her intention was to fight him, then why would she announce herself to him like that? She could have used the element of surprise and nailed him in his weakened state.

I also hope she doesn't get taken hostage. If she does, there goes the Sakura arc out the window.

I think she's got a plan to travel with Sasuke for a while, try to discover what he's about. And I bet they let her tag along because of her usefulness right now, but will dispatch her once he no longer needs a medic.

(Hmmmm...plot tangent: a plan like this could backfire on Sakura if Madara keeps her in some kind of genjutsu zone until she's needed again. In this was she could be a hostage without really being powerless. She travels with them and is involved with them, but when an opportunity arises for her to get away with her information she is whisked away through the mask until they need her again. So, you could still have a powerful angsty Naruto/heroic savior storyline without having a damsel in distress. More like a damsel in over her head. And it's set up now that Madara is controlling Sasuke's friends, as seen by his 'making the right choice' with Karin. So he could ultimately decide Sakura's fate too.)

One last thing: in the panel where Karin is on the ground looking at Sakura, and the words are written over her head "Wh-Who is she?" Who do you think is speaking there, Karin or Sakura? On my first read I thought it was Sakura, but now I think it is Karin. I'm sure it's intentionally vague, but I was just wondering if anyone else stumbled there.

Lastly, something I just noticed in this last reread which ties in nicely with several earlier posts: on the last page, in Sakura's internal dialogue, she calls Sasuke by his name without the 'kun.' Then when she refers to him she tags it on again, "Sasuke-kun!" It's a little thing, but it indicates she's thinking something different under the surface, yet presenting her childhood facade to him.

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 03:08 AM

QUOTE (tricksie @ Feb 16 2010, 03:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
(Hmmmm...plot tangent: a plan like this could backfire on Sakura if Madara keeps her in some kind of genjutsu zone until she's needed again. In this was she could be a hostage without really being powerless. She travels with them and is involved with them, but when an opportunity arises for her to get away with her information she is whisked away through the mask until they need her again. So, you could still have a powerful angsty Naruto/heroic savior storyline without having a damsel in distress. More like a damsel in over her head. And it's set up now that Madara is controlling Sasuke's friends, as seen by his 'making the right choice' with Karin. So he could ultimately decide Sakura's fate too.)


This part I think is kinda hard to believe, I don't think Kishimoto would do that to Sakura, especially Naruto's feelings; that's awful, well not your prediction I just mean if it actually happened I would be very very very sad, and i'd still kinda find that as damsel in distress because someone would have to save her or she'd have to make a run for it from Madara when the time is right.

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 03:25 AM

QUOTE (tricksie @ Feb 16 2010, 02:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just don't think that Sasuke and Sakura are going to fight - at least, not yet. If her intention was to fight him, then why would she announce herself to him like that? She could have used the element of surprise and nailed him in his weakened state.

I also hope she doesn't get taken hostage. If she does, there goes the Sakura arc out the window.

I think she's got a plan to travel with Sasuke for a while, try to discover what he's about. And I bet they let her tag along because of her usefulness right now, but will dispatch her once he no longer needs a medic.

(Hmmmm...plot tangent: a plan like this could backfire on Sakura if Madara keeps her in some kind of genjutsu zone until she's needed again. In this was she could be a hostage without really being powerless. She travels with them and is involved with them, but when an opportunity arises for her to get away with her information she is whisked away through the mask until they need her again. So, you could still have a powerful angsty Naruto/heroic savior storyline without having a damsel in distress. More like a damsel in over her head. And it's set up now that Madara is controlling Sasuke's friends, as seen by his 'making the right choice' with Karin. So he could ultimately decide Sakura's fate too.)

One last thing: in the panel where Karin is on the ground looking at Sakura, and the words are written over her head "Wh-Who is she?" Who do you think is speaking there, Karin or Sakura? On my first read I thought it was Sakura, but now I think it is Karin. I'm sure it's intentionally vague, but I was just wondering if anyone else stumbled there.

Lastly, something I just noticed in this last reread which ties in nicely with several earlier posts: on the last page, in Sakura's internal dialogue, she calls Sasuke by his name without the 'kun.' Then when she refers to him she tags it on again, "Sasuke-kun!" It's a little thing, but it indicates she's thinking something different under the surface, yet presenting her childhood facade to him.



Well said.

Like you said, Madara could be cause trouble in Sakura's plan. However, if she play her card well, there is no point in keeping her in a 'genjutsu zone'. Of course, that doesn't mean that he won't keep an eyes on her if he let her free ( laugh.gif an eyes and we can see only one of his eyes dry.gif ...OK, when I start to make easy word game like that, It mean that I should go to sleep because my mind is out of service).


For Karin's part, I think it was Karin who thought that.

And you're not the only one that did notice the Sasuke instead of Sasuke-kun which could be a hint that we can conclude that she's indeed, trying to trick him by saying she want to 'join' him (It maybe small, but it there).


QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Feb 16 2010, 03:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This part I think is kinda hard to believe, I don't think Kishimoto would do that to Sakura, especially Naruto's feelings; that's awful, well not your prediction I just mean if it actually happened I would be very very very sad, and i'd still kinda find that as damsel in distress because someone would have to save her or she'd have to make a run for it from Madara when the time is right.


That doesn't mean that Kishi won't do it.
The only thing that I don't like is that if, indeed, Sakura is trap in Madara 'genjutsu zone', her 'heroine-like' character could be wasted. Then again, Sakura is talented in genjutsu, she could be able to break free but by doing so, she ruin her plan to trick Sasuke later.

Edited by silverserenity, 16 February 2010 - 03:34 AM.


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Posted 16 February 2010 - 03:33 AM

QUOTE (silverserenity @ Feb 16 2010, 03:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well said.

Like you said, Madara is could be cause trouble in Sakura's plan. However, if she play her card well, there is no point in keeping her in a 'genjutsu zone'. Of course, that doesn't mean that he keep an eyes on her if he let her free ( laugh.gif , an eyes and we can see only one of his eyes dry.gif ...OK, when I start to make easy word game like that, It mean that I should go to sleep because my mind is out of service).


For Karin's part, I think it was Karin who thought that.

And you're not the only one that did notice the Sasuke instead of Sasuke-kun which could be a hint that we can conclude that she's indeed, trying to trick him by saying she want to 'join' him (It maybe small, but it there).




That doesn't mean that Kishi won't do it.
The only thing that i don't like is that if, indeed, Sakura is trap in Madara 'genjutsu zone', her 'heroine-like' character would be a waste. Then again, Sakura is talented in genjutsu, she could be able to break free but by doing so, she ruin her plan to trick Sasuke later.


Exactly. ^^ I don't know why Madara would trap her there though because he isn't with Sasuke all the time, on the bridge now Madara isn't there, he's with Danzou's body, notice that?

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 03:36 AM

Like ciardha said this will be like a parallel with Tsunade and Orochimaru. Sakura will attack Sasuke when he lowers his guard but Madara will interfere. When team seven is reunited it will be a parallel to the sanin's fight while Kakashi fights Madara. It will be the same with the end of the sanin's battle Orochimaru escaped Sasuke will escape as well. I think this arc will be important for Naruto's development because it will be the arc where he finally realizes that the Sasuke he once knew is long gone and the only choice he will have to save him is by killing him. It's the same thing with a dog with rabies in order to prevent it from hurting others you put him to sleep in order to protect those people from getting hurt by it.

Edited by Gravenimage, 16 February 2010 - 03:37 AM.

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 03:37 AM

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Feb 16 2010, 04:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Exactly. ^^ I don't know why Madara would trap her there though because he isn't with Sasuke all the time, on the bridge now Madara isn't there, he's with Danzou's body, notice that?

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He could still appear out of nowhere, that wouldn't surprise me one bit.

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Feb 16 2010, 04:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Like ciardha said this will be like a parallel with Tsunade and Orochimaru. Sakura will attack Sasuke when he lowers his guard but Madara will interfere. When team seven is reunited it will be a parallel to the sanin's fight while Kakashi fights Madara. It will be the same with the end of the sanin's battle Orochimaru escaped Sasuke will escape as well. I think this arc will be important for Naruto's development because it will be the arc where he finally realizes that the Sasuke he once knew is long gone and the only choice he will have to save him is by killing him. It's the same thing with a dog with rabies in order to prevent it from hurting others you put him to sleep in order to protect those people from getting hurt by it.



As much as I remember, Madara never fought, he was always watching.
Anyway, that not really important. What I like is this could make Naruto realize that the Sasuke that he new is long gone (FINALLY).

So far, this is the best prediction that I've read (I'll also give the credit to Ciardha because, like you said, she did point out the similarity with the Tsunade-Orochimaru's act)

Edited by silverserenity, 16 February 2010 - 03:46 AM.


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Posted 16 February 2010 - 03:54 AM

QUOTE (silverserenity @ Feb 16 2010, 04:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyway, that not really important. What I like is this could make Naruto realize that the Sasuke that he new is long gone (FINALLY).


Lmao xD I will dance the day Naruto realizes Sasuke isn't the same. This will definitely change the Manga a LOT ;P We just gotta wait and see when it actually happens. If he just see's Sasuke he might still wanna save him, but if he see's Sasuke do something that will make him mad/hate him etc *cough* hurt Sakura *cough* then he'd know there's no hope for Sasuke. Though, that'd make me sad, because once that happens we know its only a matter of time before the manga comes to and end... Oh wait! I just remembered something heheelq7.png Kishimoto said the manga is far from over and that Madara might not be the final villan he-he! Yay, plus he said he's definitely gonna have more on Minato and Kushina, image what would happen if we found out Kushina was alive O_O Damn...

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 03:58 AM

The agonizing wait for spoilers begin.

Ok, well the started this morning, but still

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 04:12 AM

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Feb 15 2010, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yay, plus he said he's definitely gonna have more on Minato and Kushina, image what would happen if we found out Kushina was alive O_O Damn...

I thought he said he wanted to do a backstory for Minato but didn't have time. Though I think he did say we would find out more about Kushina at least.




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