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#201 alexander

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 10:01 PM

QUOTE (dl316bh @ Feb 24 2011, 07:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Clearly you aren't reading Secret Six.

Also, breaking Batmans back is just what he's remembered for. He's actually very intelligent, but few really remember that because any medium outside of comics tends to portray him as dumb muscle. He's a much better character than Doomsday, at least.


I didn't even think he was a great Peter Parker either. Too mellow and subdued. It worked out for the first movie, though that one has some flaws; after than though, I thin the franchise just kind of crumbles at least partly based on the quality of acting.


I think you being a little too harsh on this matter dl316bh, well I totally hated the third movie, I have to say that, but the acting on the two first movies, in my opinion at least, was pretty decent, Maguire puled off an at least decent spider man. You know, an scene I will remember forever is that one were spider man saves the train on the second movie, but I talking about the scene after he pass out, and everyone sees his face and are shocked and amazed of how spider man is just and teenager guy and promisse to him to keep his secret, it was really memorable.

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#202 dl316bh

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 10:43 PM

QUOTE (alexander @ Feb 27 2011, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have to say that, but the acting on the two first movies, in my opinion at least, was pretty decent, Maguire puled off an at least decent spider man. You know, an scene I will remember forever is that one were spider man saves the train on the second movie, but I talking about the scene after he pass out, and everyone sees his face and are shocked and amazed of how spider man is just and teenager guy and promisse to him to keep his secret, it was really memorable.

First movies acting was okay, if not spectacular, but I maintain that the second movie had acting so wooden they may as well have replaced Maguire and Dunst with a couple of redwoods.

I thought the train sequence was particularly cheesy. Granted, this is in a movie trilogy that I suspect Kraft had a hand in, but that one just took the cheesecake. I respect that you liked the scene, but personally I thought it was very campy. I'm not sure there was really any good reason to have Spider-Man unmasked in front of an entire train full of people other than a sentimental moment that I'm not particularly sure really served the plot any.

To be fair, though, all this was to be expected when Sam Raimi came on board; much as I love the Evil Dead films, camp really doesn't have a place in movies like this, but the guy came from a B-Movie background, so it wasn't entirely unexpected. The entire trilogy has moments like this. Even the first one, which I actually liked. I mean, it's great to see that Goldar's doing well post Power Rangers, but a green recolor job does not a Green Goblin make.

Three... man I just don't even know what the hell happened to three. A lot of people try and claim the inclusion of Venom is what brought the movie down, but I don't think for a second that removing Venom from the last act of the film would have saved it. Man that movie had problems.

To not be completely negative, however, I will say that Spider-Man 2 had some of the fundamentals down. There was the basic understanding that a lot of what makes a given Spider-Man story appealing is the superheroics mixed with personal drama. Obviously, this doesn't often go quite far with the romantic entanglements in the movies - since, you know, they were insistant that Mary Jane was the only viable choice - but they still nailed that in other ways. Regardless, that's the main thing they got right; in quite a few other respects, they didn't exactly get the character of Peter Parker.

I recently played Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions and while the personal drama is mostly absent, the game presented a much better Amazing Spider-Man in tone, jokes, demeanor and voice acting.

But I'm not saying you're not entitled to like 2.
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Posted 28 February 2011 - 01:09 PM

Never had any complaints about the acting of any actor actually.

tbh I've never had the feeling of: wow that movie would have been so much better if someone else had played that part.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 03:46 AM

QUOTE (Torxe @ Feb 28 2011, 08:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
tbh I've never had the feeling of: wow that movie would have been so much better if someone else had played that part.


You're kidding.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 03:54 AM

QUOTE (Torxe @ Feb 28 2011, 07:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Never had any complaints about the acting of any actor actually.

tbh I've never had the feeling of: wow that movie would have been so much better if someone else had played that part.


I work with actors and stage hands all the time. I complain on almost every "Hollywood" movie. I think the last one I really didn't have any issues with was Inception.

Edited by TheOmegaMan, 01 March 2011 - 04:01 AM.

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#206 Torxe

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 07:32 AM

QUOTE (Cloud @ Mar 1 2011, 04:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're kidding.


Nope, guess I'm easily statisfied biggrin.gif

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#207 No WhereMan

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 11:40 AM

QUOTE (Torxe @ Mar 1 2011, 02:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nope, guess I'm easily statisfied biggrin.gif


I can't say that for myself. I liked Toby Maguire in Spiderman. But there are plenty of movies that I hated because of one or more actors hamming it up.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 12:02 PM

Only thing I get shivers from is predictable plots...

well not the plots but the roles certain characters are coming to play in the story. In most movies, by the time they've reached the middle of the movie you already have a pretty good guess which characters are going to betray/kill/or be killed.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 05:00 AM

So...........

Rumors have come out about the new Batman movie. It'll involve Talia Al Ghul, Bane and the League of Shadows. I hope they find a sultry woman for Talia. She's a gorgeous girl.

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 12:54 AM

QUOTE (Cloud @ Mar 3 2011, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So...........

Rumors have come out about the new Batman movie. It'll involve Talia Al Ghul, Bane and the League of Shadows. I hope they find a sultry woman for Talia. She's a gorgeous girl.



I've never heard anything about Talia. Selina Kyle yes, but not Talia.

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 12:58 AM

I thought Anne Hathaway was playing Selina Kyle or somethin, and Bane was the Villian. Oh well.

Also 1st Spiderman was good, Second was Meh, and Third was "Why is Eric from That 70's Show Black Venom?" And not good.

X-Men origins Wolverine was an Abomination but slightly better then Spiderman 3.

Edited by Insurrection, 06 March 2011 - 12:59 AM.


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Posted 07 March 2011 - 03:54 AM

QUOTE (shadow_Uzumaki @ Mar 5 2011, 06:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've never heard anything about Talia. Selina Kyle yes, but not Talia.


Yeah, I can't remember if it was confirmed or not, but this was just a little before Anne Hatheway was announced that she was rumored for cat woman and Marion Cottilard was rumored for Talia. I think she has the beauty to pull of Talia. But if she joins the cast I'm gonna say this movie is Inception but instead of Saito and Robert Fischer having their brains entered, it's Bruce Wayne.

Anyway, I think I'm gonna put my money on Joseph Gordon Levitt being Jason Todd. Honestly, I don't think Robin fits in Nolan's world with Grayson or Drake, but I think Jason Todd would work just fine.

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Posted 08 March 2011 - 01:26 AM

They can't put Robin in or else Christian Bale leaves. Because Bale publicly stated if Robin is put in the movie, he's leavin'.

Quote: “If Robin crops up in one of the new Batman films, I’ll be chaining myself up somewhere and refusing to go to work.”

Edited by Insurrection, 08 March 2011 - 01:37 AM.


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Posted 08 March 2011 - 01:29 AM

Pretty much what Insurrection said. Nolan also doesn't want to add in a Robin, I think.

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Posted 08 March 2011 - 01:33 AM

It doesn't have to be Robin. It can be someone who wants to be his sidekick ... Rumor is that Leavitt is a antagonist, and if I remember correctly the source was stated as saying "by the end." It could be a Syndrome situation, just less comical, like others who are trying to be vigilantes seeing the fear that Batman instills, and he just happens to like to use guns as well.

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Posted 08 March 2011 - 01:35 AM

I think Levitt was rumoured to play Black Mask.

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Posted 08 March 2011 - 05:17 AM

QUOTE (Cloud @ Mar 7 2011, 08:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think Levitt was rumoured to play Black Mask.

Much as I would have loved Black Mask to be in the movie - he was one of my two predictions for this movie, the other being Bane, based on how easily and well the two could be fit into Nolans universe with a tweak or two - I'm not sure it's going to happen at this point. Especially if Talia's in it. At this point, we've got Selina Kyle and Bane. Assuming Selina doesn't don the catsuit, I'd say there's room for one other villain. Talia makes more sense than having both him and Bane in the same movie, since her inclusion would help bring the trilogy full circle, since it started with the Al Ghuls. Bane will probably be used for the mastermind of the Gotham underground that Black Mask would typically fit. I suppose Bane could be, I dunno, the muscle, but frankly that's a waste of the character.
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Posted 08 March 2011 - 08:41 AM

QUOTE (Insurrection @ Mar 6 2011, 01:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
X-Men origins Wolverine was an Abomination but slightly better then Spiderman 3.


I had to lol at the scene when he tried his claws in the bathroom though biggrin.gif

at the batman thing thought the first two were good so looking forward to a third.

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 02:56 PM

Na-na na-na na-na JGL official for Dark Knight Rises, na-na na-na na-na Batgirl?

It doesn't say the last part so that's just speculation. Even though Bale said he'd poop a brick if Robin entered the fray we have yet another Robin possibility: Carrie Kelly from "The Dark Knight Returns" Although Juno Temple and here character description are not even a confirmed yet.

Oh... also:

Wonder Woman is a Halloween costume? --Click here to view--


That's actually the costume for the TV show. I understand the pants part of it, and ... I'm not as familiar with the costume, but isn't all that gold stuff supposed to be metal? Why is it plastic looking? Her head-band/ tiara looks like plastic too. ... I hope this was just a costume test and the finished product looks much better.

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Posted 20 March 2011 - 10:30 PM

I can see this PVC-Wonder Woman joining the very exclusive club started by The Cape (God awful show), but I'll admit that she's hot as hell. I'm not sure why TV insists on reinventing characters when they're on a limited budget. I think they would have done a better show if they went with the same direction they started Smallville in, and drop the plastic costumes altogether. I'm not convinced!




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