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#201 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 09:36 PM

It's funny how back to back chaoters there's something that ruins it: that line and that power.

#202 NarutoUzumaki01

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 09:38 PM

Obito gets it all, but Naruto gets one of the worst endings when his name is in the frickin' title of the manga. How does that make ANY sense?

Not even a bit of it.



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Posted 05 February 2015 - 09:39 PM

Minato didn't suffer anything, until the very end, lol

Well he and his wife did die by a giant fox to protect the village lol. Too bad, if that didn't happen then they could have been able to raise their son not to be a scumbag.


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 09:40 PM

Well he and his wife did die by a giant fox to protect the village lol. Too bad, if that didn't happen then they could have been able to raise their son not to be a scumbag

So it's still Obito the coolest guy  :hm:



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Posted 05 February 2015 - 09:42 PM

So it's still Obito the coolest guy  :hm:

Hey I bet if Minato said who was the coolest guy he'd say it'd be his own son. But that's only because Naruto lied to him and fooled him into believing he would turn out well lol.


 


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 09:45 PM

Hey I bet if Minato said who was the coolest guy he'd say it'd be his own son. But that's only because Naruto lied to him and fooled him into believing he would turn out well lol.

Well, there was alot more characters that deserved those - Hashirama, Jiraiya, Nagato  :hehehe:



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Posted 05 February 2015 - 09:48 PM

Well, there was alot more characters that deserved those - Hashirama, Jiraiya, Nagato  :hehehe:

I'm sure Minato had faith in his son when he left in chapter 691. But yes all of those characters deserve it a lot more now that we know how things turn out.


 


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 09:49 PM

<== this made me think about how they retconed the whole manga in the LAST 

I had to like this xD Its so perfect for comparing to the last xD


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 09:51 PM

Because of Uchiha's pure love? lol

Because Obito had no one to come back? He already was half-dead and both of them were his only bonds that tied him up with village? Clan wasn't intrested in him. I see your point, just look at it from different point of view - Obito was not a genius of Uchiha, that's ok, he tried his best, and started to get acknowledge, but then there was a mission, when he saved Kakashi and almost died, become disabled(for a long time), his only bonds with two friends was his lifebuoy. If just came back with Hashirama's DNA in him, he would be claimed as traitor or would be used by Danzo, no normal life for him. And Kakashi took out both bonds by himself. There is always another chance, Kakashi could use sharingan of other, but he killed her, that's it.

About baby scene: He predicted that Minato would use teleport to get out, he even prepared place for Kushina's ritual. 

Oh, ok, so where did Naruto stated that he forgave Obito? 

 

And bolded that's elso a question of manga what's worse? Have no one and suffer lonelyness or have everything and lose it in one moment because of lack of streght.

Don't even remind me of that kitten  I still cringe at it  :twitch:  :twitch:  :twitch: .

 

He had Minato and Kakashi  they would never abandoned him they were family to , I have no clue whether the Uchiha wanted him or not it was never stated or explained in the manga .

Its a trauma that's for sure and it is painful but not for you to blame the whole world for it  and try to destroy it committing  massive murder . Its a reason but a very flawed one  .

 

Dude come on really I  freaking hate Kakashi but it was not his freaking fault he was taking  Rin back to the leaf to fix her , But Rin made her choice  and  put herself between  her and his Chidori he couldn't do a damn thing  it was Rin's choice her sacrifice and Obito knew this ugh!

 

No he didn't predicted that Minato would save Naruto since when Obiot can look into the future !? He was using Naruto as bait and didn't care if the baby lives or dies  that's cruel and cold as kitten, and the ritual was genjutsu  there is no preparation for it he just Kamuied himself out of there .

 

" THE COOLEST GUY EVER "    :zaru:  It basically excused him for all of his kitten :facepalm: .

 

Its loneliness the manga's overall focus was on loneliness  and the pain of it  it doesn't matter of which nature , but the feeling of feeling like you don't even exist have no love in your live and don't belong anywhere  is far worse .      


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 09:52 PM

Well, I looked though Obito's flashback, kid didn't deserve kitten he got.



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Posted 05 February 2015 - 09:55 PM

Well, I looked though Obito's flashback, kid didn't deserve kitten he got.

You know NFFU is right. He had Kakashi and Minato still yet they weren't good enough because they weren't Rin. I bet if Kakashi and Minato died instead of Rin he'd happily come back to the village just to be with her.


 


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 09:59 PM

Don't even remind me of that kitten  I still cringe at it  :twitch:  :twitch:  :twitch: .

 

He had Minato and Kakashi  they would never abandoned him they were family to , I have no clue whether the Uchiha wanted him or not it was never stated or explained in the manga .

Its a trauma that's for sure and it is painful but not for you to blame the whole world for it  and try to destroy it committing  massive murder . Its a reason but a very flawed one  .

 

Dude come on really I  freaking hate Kakashi but it was not his freaking fault he was taking  Rin back to the leaf to fix her , But Rin made her choice  and  put herself between  her and his Chidori he couldn't do a damn thing  it was Rin's choice her sacrifice and Obito knew this ugh!

 

No he didn't predicted that Minato would save Naruto since when Obiot can look into the future !? He was using Naruto as bait and didn't care if the baby lives or dies  that's cruel and cold as kitten, and the ritual was genjutsu  there is no preparation for it he just Kamuied himself out of there .

 

" THE COOLEST GUY EVER "    :zaru:  It basically excused him for all of his kitten :facepalm: .

 

Its loneliness the manga's overall focus was on loneliness  and the pain of it  it doesn't matter of which nature , but the feeling of feeling like you don't even exist have no love in your live and don't belong anywhere  is far worse .      

Kakashi? Do you think Obito cared for him after what he did?

Minato? Coudn't do anything because of elders and Danzo, that's for sure. Kakashi coudn't do anything? Nice, good promise that you coudn't keep.World caused his trauma, so he returned it even greater. Same with Nagato, a little less with Madara.

Ritual - place where he placed Kushina.

Loneliness, well, that is where we disagree, Naruto was cared by 3rd, Sasuke became lonely and only suffered more, that part of his revenge was good.

 

You know NFFU is right. He had Kakashi and Minato still yet they weren't good enough because they weren't Rin. I bet if Kakashi and Minato died instead of Rin he'd happily come back to the village just to be with her.

I wonder where both of them could die, lol.

But that would be ok for him? Don't thinks so, he would've bothering himself why he coudn't help them at their death-moment.


Edited by NarutoUzumaki01, 05 February 2015 - 10:01 PM.


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:00 PM

Remember the time Minato was supposed to be the strongest Hokage ever... The time Naruto was still a great manga. 


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:02 PM

Remember the time Minato was supposed to be the strongest Hokage ever... The time Naruto was still a great manga. 

IKR and now second hokage was like "no I invented the flying thunder god technique, I'm the strongest hokage blah blah blah"  :down:


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:04 PM

IKR and now second hokage was like "no I invented the flying thunder god technique, I'm the strongest hokage blah blah blah"  :down:

I still can't see how Minato improved it, placing it on kunai? lol



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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:06 PM

Remember the time Minato was supposed to be the strongest Hokage ever... The time Naruto was still a great manga. 

Minato's the strongest in my eyes because he worked for everything he got. He isn't some reincarnation of the sage's son and gets random asspull powers. He came from a commoner clan and had to work to become strong. I think that makes you infinitely stronger than just being handed power like the Senju, Uchiha, and Hyuuga clans.

 

I still can't see how Minato improved it, placing it on kunai? lol

Hey if you think about it that's a huge improvement because he can throw it and move around the battlefield a lot quicker than he would without it.


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:07 PM

Minato's the strongest in my eyes because he worked for everything he got. He isn't some reincarnation of the sage's son and gets random asspull powers. He came from a commoner clan and had to work to become strong. I think that makes you infinitely stronger than just being handed power like the Senju, Uchiha, and Hyuuga clans.

Second and Third didn't have any asspuls =|



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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:09 PM

Second and Third didn't have any asspuls =|

No they didn't and that's why they're the strongest Hokages to me. I just like Minato the best. :)


 


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:11 PM

No they didn't and that's why they're the strongest Hokages to me. I just like Minato the best. :)

Oh, okay  :sweat:



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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:15 PM

No they didn't and that's why they're the strongest Hokages to me. I just like Minato the best. :)

And think about how old minato was when he died: 24. Who knows how much stronger he would have gotten if he hadn't died back then.

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