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[六道仙人]

serious stuff.... Are the Naruto's healing powers a sorta temporary powers? Because the way that I get in this chapter is that Obito has some limited time....

 

I also believe that MP is the right one about Sakura's chakra. Otherwise why Obito should bring naruto's clone there too?

[Silentraider52]

There's been one thing that I've been wondering about lately and if this works we might get a more interesting and intense. We all know that they're going to break the Infinite Tsukuyomi genjutsu eventually, but what will happen to Kaguya if they do that before they seal her? What I was thinking would happen would be that all of the chakra that Kaguya gained from all of the people trapped in the genjutsu will rip out of her and return to the original owners. This part of the theory may be hard to see happening but I figured since the chakra was in everyone else and their bloodlines for hundreds if not thousands of year, the chakra would have more of a connection to them and want to return (sketchy I know but it's all I've got). Then since most of her power has left her, all she'd have would be the Ten-Tails' chakra, but because her power would be broken she wouldn't be as overpowered. Then, in my theory, what would happen next is that she would accumulate what power she has left and take on a new form which greatly resembles the Ten-Tails (with all the tails and the one rinnegan eye) exept it's now more humanoid and is the size of a human (though maybe a bit larger for intimidation purposes) and is stronger than Madara. Also, since she lost her chakra, she becomes even more desprate to get it back and becomes rabid, unpredictable, very violent, and a lot more physical with her attacks than she is now. Then this can FINALLY be the battle where everything ends.

 

For me, this would be a fitting scenerio to happen eventually (if it does happen). Sorry for being long about it.

[TouKen4Life3g]

serious stuff.... Are the Naruto's healing powers a sorta temporary powers? Because the way that I get in this chapter is that Obito has some limited time....
 
I also believe that MP is the right one about Sakura's chakra. Otherwise why Obito should bring naruto's clone there too?

It looks that way. Naruto could just stabilize the time of death for a time being, like feeding tube. Or like bleeding out. I don't know if it's just for Obito, but if to all, maybe the idea for Gai not to die there is to have Gai say a proper farewell to Lee since they haven't truly talk about it. But that is if Naruto's power is only a stabilizing for a moment. So yeah, Obito's time is drawing near. As Randy Marsh would say, "Well that sucks."

[rocci]

Naruto power only heal or prolonge someone life but never revive thing (so far).
In obito case, he's an ex jinchuriki and after jubi extract from him, he is bound to die.

[TouKen4Life3g]

There's been one thing that I've been wondering about lately and if this works we might get a more interesting and intense. We all know that they're going to break the Infinite Tsukuyomi genjutsu eventually, but what will happen to Kaguya if they do that before they seal her? What I was thinking would happen would be that all of the chakra that Kaguya gained from all of the people trapped in the genjutsu will rip out of her and return to the original owners. This part of the theory may be hard to see happening but I figured since the chakra was in everyone else and their bloodlines for hundreds if not thousands of year, the chakra would have more of a connection to them and want to return (sketchy I know but it's all I've got). Then since most of her power has left her, all she'd have would be the Ten-Tails' chakra, but because her power would be broken she wouldn't be as overpowered. Then, in my theory, what would happen next is that she would accumulate what power she has left and take on a new form which greatly resembles the Ten-Tails (with all the tails and the one rinnegan eye) exept it's now more humanoid and is the size of a human (though maybe a bit larger for intimidation purposes) and is stronger than Madara. Also, since she lost her chakra, she becomes even more desprate to get it back and becomes rabid, unpredictable, very violent, and a lot more physical with her attacks than she is now. Then this can FINALLY be the battle where everything ends.
 
For me, this would be a fitting scenerio to happen eventually (if it does happen). Sorry for being long about it.

That could work. Right now, she can't be hurt and even if you do, it's like taking .01% of her health. She just got Naruto in trapped, luckily, Naruto is being unpredictable by acting like he got stuck for good. It seems like being unpredictable is one way to catch her off-guard. But we'll see.

[James S Cassidy]

We don't know how much chakra of the real Naruto the clone has

Anyways, who has better chakra control, Naruto or Sakura

Here's an argument somebody from NB said(he said Naruto does):

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Controlling your own chakra throughout your body with great accuracy.
> Fire Ball Jutsu requires basic chakra control
> Walking on water or climbing on tries requires basic chakra control
> Kekkai Genkai users using multiple chakra natures requires great chakra control

*What Sasuke displayed in the Forest of Death with the Kunai on his foot was a form a chakra control.

Tailed Beasts and Jinchuriki control their chakra by balancing the ratio of yin and yang.
Hand seals are used for controlling chakra much easier.

Tsunade and Sakura focus chakra to their fist for monster strength, but that's not my point. My point is that Naruto needs a lot more focus to balance his chakra as he has a lot.

As I have already stated, the Rasengan requires insane chakra control because it is 'shape manipulation'
He took it a step further and worked on creating the Rasen: Shuriken. This is something that even Kakashi couldn't do and he was the one to invent the Chidori.

He later learned Sage mode and even perfected it, something Jiraiya failed at. This uses natural energy along with normal chakra. Blending natural energy with the users own chakra requires very high chakra control and focus, which is something that Naruto has achieved.

Kurama's power which he was able to control perfectly. This required a lot of focus to maintain high level of chakra. If you haven't noticed, boy, it takes a lot of chakra control for any Jinchuuriki to control their tailed beasts, so saying that it doesn't take immense control chakra to control a tailed beast is really dumb.

He befriended Kurama and awakened BM.
He could transmit and transfer Kurama's chakra and his own to every shinobi on the battlefield in perfect sync. Naruto can also fuse Sage Mode with Bijuu Mode to create BSM which is another feat with the Kyubi's power.

In conclusion, Naruto has been shown to be able to master his chakra control excellently.

I think Sakura has always been the one with the most chakra control and she was the one with the Byakugou seal. This person forgot that her seal requires a lot of chakra control to form it into her foreheard like Tsunade did. Shizune even commented that not even she could do it, but here Sakura was able to do it for three years straight all the while doing other things. She is literally multitasking her chakra the whole time.

I don't think the Rasengan is that hard to form. I mean, anyone can learn the Rasengan and everyone learned it alot faster than Naruto did. Also, Naruto had to use clones for it to work alot of times while most others could do it with one hand. I can see where this person is coming from, but alot of times Naruto had outside help with his control where it required clones to perform. A rasenshurikan took about 3 Naruto's to perform each control one aspect of his power. 

Hell, go back to the beginning and Naruto had a hard time making shadow clones which again took him a while to perform right.

Sakura's medical ninjutsu takes alot of chakra control and is why Tsunade took her on in the first place. it wasn't that she had alot of power, but alot of pinpoint control. Probably the best in her class.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Naruto power only heal or prolonge someone life but never revive thing (so far).
In obito case, he's an ex jinchuriki and after jubi extract from him, he is bound to die.

Well Naruto can't revive people. Just stabilizes chakra from depletion. Or so we think at the time being. Obito has done things that asks for his life to be taken.

[only Naruto]

The best part if this chapter was the hokages finding Madara's legs.

How can they not laugh?

hahaha am imagining that

[Nostradamus]

The only thing I want to say now is this. Kishi if you're reading this (which I know you're not, but let's say by some miracle you are) please for the love of God, do not screw this up. Don't make Sakura doubt herself, don't make Sasuke saying she's useless or any other nonsense.

Have her do something useful, don't just give us the illusion that she's going to do something and then never actually doing it.

[FireFox]

I think Sakura has always been the one with the most chakra control and she was the one with the Byakugou seal. This person forgot that her seal requires a lot of chakra control to form it into her foreheard like Tsunade did. Shizune even commented that not even she could do it, but here Sakura was able to do it for three years straight all the while doing other things. She is literally multitasking her chakra the whole time.

I don't think the Rasengan is that hard to form. I mean, anyone can learn the Rasengan and everyone learned it alot faster than Naruto did. Also, Naruto had to use clones for it to work alot of times while most others could do it with one hand. I can see where this person is coming from, but alot of times Naruto had outside help with his control where it required clones to perform. A rasenshurikan took about 3 Naruto's to perform each control one aspect of his power. 

Hell, go back to the beginning and Naruto had a hard time making shadow clones which again took him a while to perform right.

Sakura's medical ninjutsu takes alot of chakra control and is why Tsunade took her on in the first place. it wasn't that she had alot of power, but alot of pinpoint control. Probably the best in her class.

Naruto is good with chakra manipulation he has that perfected he can do everything with it shape it like it fits him and control it one hand Rasengan and RS has been no prob for him anymore  but he's good or has improved  also with chakra control but manipulation and control is a different thing  so to say that he's superior to Sakura in chakra control is false he might be close but he's in no way superior to her  . Hope you don't mind me adding this to your post XD. 

[James S Cassidy]

The only thing I want to say now is this. Kishi if you're reading this (which I know you're not, but let's say by some miracle you are) please for the love of God, do not screw this up. Don't make Sakura doubt herself, don't make Sasuke saying she's useless or any other nonsense.

Have her do something useful, don't just give us the illusion that she's going to do something and then never actually doing it.

For once, I agree. It's time to have Sakura move on from this hinderance. I was okay with it before because we never really had Sakura really come to terms with it, but I think now is the right time.  He killed SS indefinitly, he expressed Sakura's change of heart, now just need to let Sakura have strength in not letting Sasuke bother her anymore.

 

Naruto is good with chakra manipulation he has that perfected he can do everything with it shape it like it fits him and control it one hand Rasengan and RS has been no prob for him anymore  but he's good or has improved  also with chakra control but manipulation and control is a different thing  so to say that he's superior to Sakura in chakra control is false he might be close but he's in no way superior to her  . Hope you don't mind me adding this to your post XD.

 

Sure. I think the point is is that Naruto has gotten better with control, but Sakura is still the best. It took Naruto alot of times to perfom even the simplest of chakra control formations and you are right that chakra manipulation is different than actual control. Anyone, save for Rock Lee and Gai and his father, can manipulate chakra well enough to perfom many techniques, but true control is doing those same techniques with precision.

 

Edited by James S Cassidy, 02 July 2014 - 03:20 PM.

[only Naruto]

Naruto power only heal or prolonge someone life but never revive thing (so far).
In obito case, he's an ex jinchuriki and after jubi extract from him, he is bound to die.

so naruto  has healing power . .obito and Gai .  and he also has the creation thing with kakashi eye ? 

[only Naruto]

There's been one thing that I've been wondering about lately and if this works we might get a more interesting and intense. We all know that they're going to break the Infinite Tsukuyomi genjutsu eventually, but what will happen to Kaguya if they do that before they seal her? What I was thinking would happen would be that all of the chakra that Kaguya gained from all of the people trapped in the genjutsu will rip out of her and return to the original owners. This part of the theory may be hard to see happening but I figured since the chakra was in everyone else and their bloodlines for hundreds if not thousands of year, the chakra would have more of a connection to them and want to return (sketchy I know but it's all I've got). Then since most of her power has left her, all she'd have would be the Ten-Tails' chakra, but because her power would be broken she wouldn't be as overpowered. Then, in my theory, what would happen next is that she would accumulate what power she has left and take on a new form which greatly resembles the Ten-Tails (with all the tails and the one rinnegan eye) exept it's now more humanoid and is the size of a human (though maybe a bit larger for intimidation purposes) and is stronger than Madara. Also, since she lost her chakra, she becomes even more desprate to get it back and becomes rabid, unpredictable, very violent, and a lot more physical with her attacks than she is now. Then this can FINALLY be the battle where everything ends.

 

For me, this would be a fitting scenerio to happen eventually (if it does happen). Sorry for being long about it.

am out of likes .this is a nice idea..i dont see it that far from happening .

[FireFox]

Well Naruto can't revive people. Just stabilizes chakra from depletion. Or so we think at the time being. Obito has done things that asks for his life to be taken.

Well Obitto's Bijuu's chakra was completely taken out of him but that wasn't the case with Gai Naruto prevented his normal chakra going out completely just seconds before it went of so I think the reason that Obitto's is dying is because he doesn't have a permanent Bijuu chakra in his body anymore or a Bijuu and Naruto can't restore it because its not in him anymore there isn't a trace of it in his body so maybe this is the case ? This is tricky   . 

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

serious stuff.... Are the Naruto's healing powers a sorta temporary powers? Because the way that I get in this chapter is that Obito has some limited time....
 
I also believe that MP is the right one about Sakura's chakra. Otherwise why Obito should bring naruto's clone there too?

I have no idea wether, i didnt knew she could use the hyakugou chakra a like so there would be no need for her to worry about running out chakra.
But whatever, i was going to get mad at this chapter when i thought Hashirama was going to revive Madara.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 02 July 2014 - 03:29 PM.

[only Naruto]

The only thing I want to say now is this. Kishi if you're reading this (which I know you're not, but let's say by some miracle you are) please for the love of God, do not screw this up. Don't make Sakura doubt herself, don't make Sasuke saying she's useless or any other nonsense.

Have her do something useful, don't just give us the illusion that she's going to do something and then never actually doing it.

 

The only thing I want to say now is this. Kishi if you're reading this (which I know you're not, but let's say by some miracle you are) please for the love of God, do not screw this up. Don't make Sakura doubt herself, don't make Sasuke saying she's useless or any other nonsense.

Have her do something useful, don't just give us the illusion that she's going to do something and then never actually doing it.

yeah you are right ..its unlikely but wont we all be happy to see sasuke next chapter  telling them with his cold look    that .what are u doing here who asked you guys for help .  and the sakura just jump and punch him with all what she got in his face in the sand .      just a nice thoughts i have now .

[manbeast101]

An excellent chapter.

 

Also happy that Sakura is stepping up to help out!

 

Also Hokages finally getting their roll to play!

[Change]

           

I died.

But yeah, must be. xD

 

 

 

We do know: his, the bijuus, what he received from Hagoromo and some from Ashura via transmigration, therefore kitten loads of chakra.

As for Sakura's chakra control, I made a thread on NB explaining stuff: http://narutobase.ne...ad.php?t=460218

 

 

I think Sakura has always been the one with the most chakra control and she was the one with the Byakugou seal. This person forgot that her seal requires a lot of chakra control to form it into her foreheard like Tsunade did. Shizune even commented that not even she could do it, but here Sakura was able to do it for three years straight all the while doing other things. She is literally multitasking her chakra the whole time.

I don't think the Rasengan is that hard to form. I mean, anyone can learn the Rasengan and everyone learned it alot faster than Naruto did. Also, Naruto had to use clones for it to work alot of times while most others could do it with one hand. I can see where this person is coming from, but alot of times Naruto had outside help with his control where it required clones to perform. A rasenshurikan took about 3 Naruto's to perform each control one aspect of his power. 

Hell, go back to the beginning and Naruto had a hard time making shadow clones which again took him a while to perform right.

Sakura's medical ninjutsu takes alot of chakra control and is why Tsunade took her on in the first place. it wasn't that she had alot of power, but alot of pinpoint control. Probably the best in her class.

 

 

The only thing I want to say now is this. Kishi if you're reading this (which I know you're not, but let's say by some miracle you are) please for the love of God, do not screw this up. Don't make Sakura doubt herself, don't make Sasuke saying she's useless or any other nonsense.

Have her do something useful, don't just give us the illusion that she's going to do something and then never actually doing it.

Thank you guys, I appreciate it a lot 

[Liu bie]

I have no idea wether, i didnt knew she could use the hyakugou chakra a like so there would be no need for her to worry about running out chakra.
But whatever, i was going to get mad at this chapter when i thought Hashirama was going to revive Madara.

Keep your fury because those legs maybe means that Madara still is around.

[Iwantbuns]

The way Sakura was talking in this chapter, made me really like her. She's definitely not the kind of girl that's letting her feelings get in the way anymore... She's definitely changed ^^ I'm hoping for some Sakura action next chapter!