I don't think there's going to be flashbacks of Obito and Minato unless it's a flashback in some panels then I think so too.
Probably now, Minato is going to try to stop Obito and helping him to be back to his old self.
Posted 07 July 2013 - 10:24 AM
I don't think there's going to be flashbacks of Obito and Minato unless it's a flashback in some panels then I think so too.
Probably now, Minato is going to try to stop Obito and helping him to be back to his old self.
Posted 07 July 2013 - 01:30 PM
There are about 2 possibilities. Kakashi shows up and she will have to heal him or she is looking for a way to help out. Obito has taken the ten tails and he is a jinchuriki so those clones might have disappeared. I don't see her as of yet being focused because I see some Minato Obito flashbacks.
The problem I find is is some don't want her to be reduced to the healer again knowing that she can fight. So other than healing, what else do people see her doing?
I think this just shows that while they want Sakura to do more, they can't think of more that she can do other than being a medic.
Posted 07 July 2013 - 01:52 PM
I have a question. Do you guys think the reason why Kakashi neglected Sakura was because she resembles Rin? By putting her out of harm's way, Kakashi wanted to protect her and prevent the same history happening again.
I can think of several instances where Kakashi was neglecting Sakura.
-Even though she was the first one to complete the tree climbing, he didn't teach her anything more while the boys were training.
-He gave Naruto and Sasuke the duty to fight against Haku, while Sakura had to protect Tazuna (basically just standing there and reflecting any projectiles)
-In the Chuunin Exams, he taught Sasuke, dispatched Ebisu for Naruto, but basically didn't give a thought for Sakura.
-Kakashi saw Sakura's power-up only after the three-year time skip. Didn't he meet/train with her even once?
-When Sakura and Naruto was talking to Kakashi that they have failed to bring back Sasuke and that he has become too strong, Kakashi told them that he thought of a very effective training. Then he said that the training is only for Naruto. He didn't think of an effective training for Sakura?
I always thought he was a very sorry excuse for a teacher. And the "Sakura wasn't motivated" isn't really a good excuse either. It was shown during the FOD, "please look at my back" and Naruto vs. Neji fight, "when I look at you, I always think that I must try harder" that Sakura was motivated and wanted to become stronger. She just didn't know how, or if she even had the potential.
But reading this whole Obito/Kakashi/Rin history, I can understand if Kakashi connected Sakura with Rin, and wanted to keep Sakura out of the battlefield as much as possible.
The problem I find is is some don't want her to be reduced to the healer again knowing that she can fight. So other than healing, what else do people see her doing?
I think this just shows that while they want Sakura to do more, they can't think of more that she can do other than being a medic.
I don't know about others. There are two reasons I'm bothered.
1.) I think her fighting with that monster strength of hers is definitely much more helpful in this battle compared to healing fodders(especially those with small cuts) who are basically a non-factor. Not to mention, Shizune is out there near the front lines and the injured fodders can retreat to the medics outside the barrier. I'd prefer her use her chakra on fighting than waste on some fodders.
2.) It was said a few chapters ago that team 7 was back. But when it comes to the most important part such as stopping Obito or bringing down the Bijuu, it's not team 7 anymore. It's team Naruto + Sasuke. If team 7 has indeed returned, Sakura should take a part of it instead of standing on top of Katsuyu and being an observer (like she always does). She's basically looking at their backs letting them do the fighting. Chapter 632, "this time we're going back to back" has just disappeared somewhere.
Edited by ramenanmitsu, 07 July 2013 - 02:02 PM.
Posted 07 July 2013 - 02:20 PM
Posted 07 July 2013 - 02:35 PM
I have a question. Do you guys think the reason why Kakashi neglected Sakura was because she resembles Rin? By putting her out of harm's way, Kakashi wanted to protect her and prevent the same history happening again.
I can think of several instances where Kakashi was neglecting Sakura.
-Even though she was the first one to complete the tree climbing, he didn't teach her anything more while the boys were training.
-He gave Naruto and Sasuke the duty to fight against Haku, while Sakura had to protect Tazuna (basically just standing there and reflecting any projectiles)
-In the Chuunin Exams, he taught Sasuke, dispatched Ebisu for Naruto, but basically didn't give a thought for Sakura.
-Kakashi saw Sakura's power-up only after the three-year time skip. Didn't he meet/train with her even once?
-When Sakura and Naruto was talking to Kakashi that they have failed to bring back Sasuke and that he has become too strong, Kakashi told them that he thought of a very effective training. Then he said that the training is only for Naruto. He didn't think of an effective training for Sakura?
I always thought he was a very sorry excuse for a teacher. And the "Sakura wasn't motivated" isn't really a good excuse either. It was shown during the FOD, "please look at my back" and Naruto vs. Neji fight, "when I look at you, I always think that I must try harder" that Sakura was motivated and wanted to become stronger. She just didn't know how, or if she even had the potential.
But reading this whole Obito/Kakashi/Rin history, I can understand if Kakashi connected Sakura with Rin, and wanted to keep Sakura out of the battlefield as much as possible.
I don't know about others. There are two reasons I'm bothered.
1.) I think her fighting with that monster strength of hers is definitely much more helpful in this battle compared to healing fodders(especially those with small cuts) who are basically a non-factor. Not to mention, Shizune is out there near the front lines and the injured fodders can retreat to the medics outside the barrier. I'd prefer her use her chakra on fighting than waste on some fodders.
2.) It was said a few chapters ago that team 7 was back. But when it comes to the most important part such as stopping Obito or bringing down the Bijuu, it's not team 7 anymore. It's team Naruto + Sasuke. If team 7 has indeed returned, Sakura should take a part of it instead of standing on top of Katsuyu and being an observer (like she always does). She's basically looking at their backs letting them do the fighting. Chapter 632, "this time we're going back to back" has just disappeared somewhere.
I don't think Kakashi will neglect Sakura that way. It will show that he's not a good teacher, not to mention that he can't do this to her either. He may mention that she reminds him of Rin, but it's not related about the teaching.
About Sakura, seriously, they just began to stop Obito and just Sasuke has make it to Obito. The battle didn't finish nor is near to finish. It has been two chapters and this means she's not going to play a role anymore ? We have to keep in mind that each main character has his/her role and what must be done for his/her role. They're not always equal in terms of roles sometimes cause every one of them is different from the other on how to play in the story.
The battle is far from over. Give it some time and Sakura may very well play an important role and it may be very possible not a healer in that. She's not going to stand still in the same spot all the time...
Edited by T XD, 07 July 2013 - 03:52 PM.
Posted 07 July 2013 - 02:52 PM
Tonight. Finally peace. Lol.Agreed. This could mean that Kakashi will say something about NS. But it also sums up Minato and Obito. Minato was an Obirin fan. Get ready for more flashbacks thou. btw when are you launching your review?
Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 07 July 2013 - 02:52 PM.
Posted 07 July 2013 - 03:01 PM
ramenanitsu, that is actually a very good catch.
Kakashi is very overprotective of Sakura. Remember when he pushed her out of the way of the woodspikes in 614? I'm sure she could've dodged that herself.
He doesn't want to repeat any mistakes. He couldn't protect Rin so the least he could do is protect Sakura. I believe that is what Kakashi thinks of it.
He is very vocal of his regrets, he could draw a comparison between the two because he knows them both so well. Obito on the other hand, doesn't know a whole lot about Sakura.
Edited by sushi., 07 July 2013 - 03:02 PM.
ナルサク
Posted 07 July 2013 - 03:27 PM
But Obito doesn't know anything about Naruto until now and all it takes is keep protecting the dream of Hokage. Don't underestimate Kishi and his way to bring the focus. There are others that just draw parallel in matter of seconds. I won't say it will happen here but I can't say it's unlikely.ramenanitsu, that is actually a very good catch.
Kakashi is very overprotective of Sakura. Remember when he pushed her out of the way of the woodspikes in 614? I'm sure she could've dodged that herself.
He doesn't want to repeat any mistakes. He couldn't protect Rin so the least he could do is protect Sakura. I believe that is what Kakashi thinks of it.
He is very vocal of his regrets, he could draw a comparison between the two because he knows them both so well. Obito on the other hand, doesn't know a whole lot about Sakura.
Posted 07 July 2013 - 03:37 PM
But Obito doesn't know anything about Naruto until now and all it takes is keep protecting the dream of Hokage. Don't underestimate Kishi and his way to bring the focus. There are others that just draw parallel in matter of seconds. I won't say it will happen here but I can't say it's unlikely.
Depending on who pulls out a comparison, it will serve for different purposes.
If Kakashi links Rin to Sakura, it might be about his regrets and how he doesn't want to repeat mistakes. Also about the next generation surpassing the others.
If Obito does it, it might be a comparison to his feelings for Rin and Naruto's feelings for Sakura. It might even be a foreshadowing to a future NS moment.
Both of them can, but it would be more realistic and logical if Kakashi does it. Though I actually think Kishi will choose the best option from a writing standpoint, not realistic.
ナルサク
Posted 07 July 2013 - 03:42 PM
sorry but WSJ jap didn't annunce any chapters colours for OP and Naruto... I just think that will be only some colourized chapter via digital by Shounen Alpha, only for their subscribers. In fact the ones who annunced these colours chapter of Naruto and OP is Shounen Alpha US&Canada, not the normal paperback magazine WSJ japan. So don't expect colour pages Tuesday.
But it says to celebrate the WSj's publication in japan, not Europe.
@Ramenanmitsu
Good catch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Although im gonna have to agree with T XD on the kakashi part and sakura's action roles.
Edited by Canadian_DJ, 07 July 2013 - 03:48 PM.
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Posted 07 July 2013 - 03:48 PM
Yeah, though to get to that, question is can Kakashi go back to real world? I know he can but I feel like he may try to work on it now as we speak. Otherwise, he should have been there in this chapter. Looks like he's working on it, like how Toph from Avatar works on metal bending. So yeah, only matter of time and honestly, I think this parallel is inevitable.Depending on who pulls out a comparison, it will serve for different purposes.
If Kakashi links Rin to Sakura, it might be about his regrets and how he doesn't want to repeat mistakes. Also about the next generation surpassing the others.
If Obito does it, it might be a comparison to his feelings for Rin and Naruto's feelings for Sakura. It might even be a foreshadowing to a future NS moment.
Both of them can, but it would be more realistic and logical if Kakashi does it. Though I actually think Kishi will choose the best option from a writing standpoint, not realistic.
Posted 07 July 2013 - 03:49 PM
I don't think Kakashi will neglect Sakura that way. It will show that he's not a good teacher, not to mention that he can't do this to her either. He may mention that she reminds him of Rin, but it's not related about the teaching.
About Sakura, seriously, they just began to stop Obito and just Sasuke has make it to Obito. The battle didn't finish nor is near to finish. It has been two chapters and this means she's not going to play a role anymore ? We have to keep in mind that each main character has its role and what must be done for his role. They're not always equal in terms of roles sometimes cause every one of them is different from the other on how to play in the story.
The battle is far from over. Give it some time and Sakura may very well play an important role and it may be very possible not a healer in that. She's not going to stand still in the same spot all the time...
This!!
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Posted 07 July 2013 - 04:01 PM
Posted 07 July 2013 - 04:43 PM
Posted 07 July 2013 - 05:28 PM
I don't think Kakashi will neglect Sakura that way. It will show that he's not a good teacher, not to mention that he can't do this to her either. He may mention that she reminds him of Rin, but it's not related about the teaching.
About Sakura, seriously, they just began to stop Obito and just Sasuke has make it to Obito. The battle didn't finish nor is near to finish. It has been two chapters and this means she's not going to play a role anymore ? We have to keep in mind that each main character has his/her role and what must be done for his/her role. They're not always equal in terms of roles sometimes cause every one of them is different from the other on how to play in the story.
The battle is far from over. Give it some time and Sakura may very well play an important role and it may be very possible not a healer in that. She's not going to stand still in the same spot all the time...
So in your opinion Kakashi just neglected her for the sake of neglecting? Well, that's also plausible. It does speak volumes of how he wasn't a good teacher though.
@the bolded. I truly hope so. It's just that I don't trust Kishi at all regarding Sakura. And there's the fact that she did stand at the same spot all those years. Let's just hope Kishi won't disappoint us.
ramenanitsu, that is actually a very good catch.
Kakashi is very overprotective of Sakura. Remember when he pushed her out of the way of the woodspikes in 614? I'm sure she could've dodged that herself.
He doesn't want to repeat any mistakes. He couldn't protect Rin so the least he could do is protect Sakura. I believe that is what Kakashi thinks of it.
He is very vocal of his regrets, he could draw a comparison between the two because he knows them both so well. Obito on the other hand, doesn't know a whole lot about Sakura.
I thought if Kakashi connected Rin with Sakura, his previous actions, or lack of, regarding Sakura was understandable.
If the past Obito reminds him of Naruto, and part 1 Sasuke reminds him of himself in the past, I found it nearly impossible that he doesn't see the resemblance between Rin and Sakura and their situations.
And I also thought that the wood spikes should have been easy for Sakura to dodge. If she was able to sit in a chair, stand up, get behind Zetsu in a short moment where Zetsu was nearly slitting her throat, her speed is damn fine. Not to mention the recent chapters where she punched the bijuu clone and caught up to it, which is like a soccer player kicking the ball towards the goal at the other side of the field, and said soccer player running and catching it a moment before it hits the goal net.
Posted 07 July 2013 - 05:51 PM
So in your opinion Kakashi just neglected her for the sake of neglecting? Well, that's also plausible. It does speak volumes of how he wasn't a good teacher though.
@the bolded. I truly hope so. It's just that I don't trust Kishi at all regarding Sakura. And there's the fact that she did stand at the same spot all those years. Let's just hope Kishi won't disappoint us.
I thought if Kakashi connected Rin with Sakura, his previous actions, or lack of, regarding Sakura was understandable.
If the past Obito reminds him of Naruto, and part 1 Sasuke reminds him of himself in the past, I found it nearly impossible that he doesn't see the resemblance between Rin and Sakura and their situations.
And I also thought that the wood spikes should have been easy for Sakura to dodge. If she was able to sit in a chair, stand up, get behind Zetsu in a short moment where Zetsu was nearly slitting her throat, her speed is damn fine. Not to mention the recent chapters where she punched the bijuu clone and caught up to it, which is like a soccer player kicking the ball towards the goal at the other side of the field, and said soccer player running and catching it a moment before it hits the goal net.
It's that there's no neglecting. He's doing what he must do as a teacher. If Kakashi neglected her which at least Tsunade, her mentor, must have known of this, she would not let that happen.
Kakashi not teaching her rightly and making her weak can not make this happen nor his job doesn't allow him to do that. Sakura doing this and that in a fight is her role in it. It's simply that.
Edited by T XD, 07 July 2013 - 05:51 PM.
Posted 07 July 2013 - 05:56 PM
Imho, the reason about Kakashi neglected Sakura is simple: He seen more potentialities in Naruto and Sasuke rather than Sakura who has a simple kunoichi without any special innate power like Naruto (son of the fourth Hokage which was his master, kyuubi's jinchuuriki) and Sasuke (from Uchiha clan, endowed with enormous ocular powers).
俺は天才バスケットマン桜木花道。
"I'm the Basketball genius, Hanamichi Sakuragi"
Posted 07 July 2013 - 06:08 PM
Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 07 July 2013 - 06:10 PM.
Posted 07 July 2013 - 06:51 PM
So in your opinion Kakashi just neglected her for the sake of neglecting? Well, that's also plausible. It does speak volumes of how he wasn't a good teacher though.
@the bolded. I truly hope so. It's just that I don't trust Kishi at all regarding Sakura. And there's the fact that she did stand at the same spot all those years. Let's just hope Kishi won't disappoint us.
I thought if Kakashi connected Rin with Sakura, his previous actions, or lack of, regarding Sakura was understandable.
If the past Obito reminds him of Naruto, and part 1 Sasuke reminds him of himself in the past, I found it nearly impossible that he doesn't see the resemblance between Rin and Sakura and their situations.
And I also thought that the wood spikes should have been easy for Sakura to dodge. If she was able to sit in a chair, stand up, get behind Zetsu in a short moment where Zetsu was nearly slitting her throat, her speed is damn fine. Not to mention the recent chapters where she punched the bijuu clone and caught up to it, which is like a soccer player kicking the ball towards the goal at the other side of the field, and said soccer player running and catching it a moment before it hits the goal net.
I think Kakashi made a link to Rin and Sakura. From the point she arrived on the battlefield she was always featured next to Kakashi. And usually Kakashi stayed in her front. So he seemed to position himself so he can be within arms length to Sakura. As for neglecting her I don't really know why. Even if he thought she was like Rin why didn't he help her out. There's also the genjutsu thing.
Posted 07 July 2013 - 11:37 PM
Since the translation of this week is really bad (as always corcening about me) and this time I had enough free time, i translated the whole chapter from the raw. If someone of you wanted this, enjoy:
637 translation
Another thing: Next issue will be an early release so we should expect spoilers and chapter on Tuesday.
Thanks for the translation! It's much appreciated.
It's so nice having people who can translate Japanese for us in the fandom. :)
I think that colours chapter will be colorized digital by those one from Shounen Alpha since the WSJ japanese didn't annunced any colour chapter for OP and Naruto... But I could wrong...
Actually I think you're right... One of the articles that talked about the full colour chapters said that the English manga would have them... Plus, they didn't announce it at the end of 637 like they usually do, or in Japanese WSJ, so... Aw man, what a gyp. Oh well.
I have a question. Do you guys think the reason why Kakashi neglected Sakura was because she resembles Rin? By putting her out of harm's way, Kakashi wanted to protect her and prevent the same history happening again.
I can think of several instances where Kakashi was neglecting Sakura.
-Even though she was the first one to complete the tree climbing, he didn't teach her anything more while the boys were training.
-He gave Naruto and Sasuke the duty to fight against Haku, while Sakura had to protect Tazuna (basically just standing there and reflecting any projectiles)
-In the Chuunin Exams, he taught Sasuke, dispatched Ebisu for Naruto, but basically didn't give a thought for Sakura.
-Kakashi saw Sakura's power-up only after the three-year time skip. Didn't he meet/train with her even once?
-When Sakura and Naruto was talking to Kakashi that they have failed to bring back Sasuke and that he has become too strong, Kakashi told them that he thought of a very effective training. Then he said that the training is only for Naruto. He didn't think of an effective training for Sakura?
I always thought he was a very sorry excuse for a teacher. And the "Sakura wasn't motivated" isn't really a good excuse either. It was shown during the FOD, "please look at my back" and Naruto vs. Neji fight, "when I look at you, I always think that I must try harder" that Sakura was motivated and wanted to become stronger. She just didn't know how, or if she even had the potential.
But reading this whole Obito/Kakashi/Rin history, I can understand if Kakashi connected Sakura with Rin, and wanted to keep Sakura out of the battlefield as much as possible.
Ha! Yeah, I've actually always thought this. It would make sense, imo, and would explain why Kakashi neglected Sakura. He couldn't have neglected her simply because he didn't see any "potential" in her (that would make him seem like a jerk, and that's still no excuse for not teaching her in favour of Sasuke and Naruto), because he knew about her intelligence, excellent chakra control (which was above even Sasuke's), and affinity for genjutsu. Plus she was always eager to learn. So yeah, my headcanon is that he, perhaps subconsciously, was overprotective of her because she reminded him of Rin.
It's also possible that he was just a bad teacher (which is possible, because it was his first time IIRC), but I prefer to believe otherwise. I like Kakashi too much.
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