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[Transformers03]

i would have one but for an author that says that he is fond of her character and suddenly comes with "she just slipped thought my mind".

Yeah, he obviously forgot about a character he has been drawing/writing for about thirteen years now. He also obviously forgot about her when he was in charged of the movie, that's why she was pretty much the co-protagonist in the Road to Ninja film.......................

In case if you haven't notice, I'm being sarcastic.

[Nate River]

Yeah, he obviously forgot about a character he has been drawing/writing for about thirteen years now. He also obviously forgot about her when he was in charged of the movie, that's why she was pretty much the co-protagonist in the Road to Ninja film.......................

In case if you haven't notice, I'm being sarcastic.

You could have made the point without the heavy dose of sarcasm. This is how fights break out.

[Transformers03]

You could have made the point without the heavy dose of sarcasm. This is how fights break out.

I know, and if anyone would've taken offense to it, I'll properly apologize and will just say I was just making a joke. I added being sarcastic part just in case people may miss it, as at times it hard to understand sarcasm through text.

[Don-kun]

I know, and if anyone would've taken offense to it, I'll properly apologize and will just say I was just making a joke. I added being sarcastic part just in case people may miss it, as at times it hard to understand sarcasm through text.

Don't worry everyone hate starting a fight but is annoying to read comments stating that Sakura will never do this or do that so I agree with you, just so you know.


@Nefertieh.
If Tsunade die, I want to see it as her dying as an hero since she is placing her life on the line to save the other Kage, I hate that the way Kishi brutally split her body, to me the manga treats the female sex as trash, but that is another topic.

Anyway there were two things I was against, people not seeing Tsunade die as something heroic or the lack of people dying in the war, but the focus being about Sakura development and future NS push, I don't need/we don't need to see any character dying to make another character better that's screwed up Sakura will never agree with that.

The other comment I was reading was that with Tsunade's death Sakura will finally understand NaruSasu, if Kushimoto will make a Sakura focus on Sasuke in a petty way is logical to believe that he wants her to understand him and feel no way oabout him trying to kill her, just look at Naruto and you will get my point.

Edited by NS means logic, 13 September 2012 - 12:33 AM.

[jworks]

No, I meant Tsunade's death could mean Sakura herself will have to fight harder, maybe learn to summon, but not necesarily change her perspective on Sasuke or Naruto (as the commenter I quoted had said). Naruto had go lose Jiraiya to understand that pain, but he's the one who will talk/ empathize/ fight Sasuke, not Sakura.

I have to say I don't think Jiraiya's death did anything for Naruto's character development. He hasn't ever needed help understanding Sasuke's pain. I think Jiraiya's death was more to drive the point home of the new generation surpassing the old one. Especially when you look at the fact Jiraya died fighting pain, and then Naruto went and beat him. I really hope Tsunade dies, although even if she does, I'm really not sure how Kishimoto is going to handle it. Sakura, and other characters, could react in so many different ways in my mind. Although I think Sakura needs some serious development on the side of losing loved ones. I think it was important for her to not have lost someone in Part 1 to have a contrast of character between team 7 but I think it's time the ninja world take it's toll on her personally.

I know, and if anyone would've taken offense to it, I'll properly apologize and will just say I was just making a joke. I added being sarcastic part just in case people may miss it, as at times it hard to understand sarcasm through text.

No, it was wrong of you to be sarcastic like that. Sarcasm at it's route necessarily takes it's "humor" at the expense of someone else. By your logic, I might as well go around calling everyone "nigger" as long as I make sure to apologize if someone takes offense.

[TouKen4Life3g]

If Tsunade die, I want to see it as her dying as an hero since she is placing her life on the line to save the other Kage, I hate that the way Kishi brutally split her body, to me the manga treats the female sex as trash, but that is another topic.

Anyway there were two things I was against, people not seeing Tsunade die as something heroic or the lack of people dying in the war, but the focus being about Sakura development and future NS push, I don't need/we don't need to see any character dying to make another character better that's screwed up Sakura will never agree with that.

The other comment I was reading was that with Tsunade's death Sakura will finally understand NaruSasu, if Kushimoto will make a Sakura focus on Sasuke in a petty way is logical to believe that he wants her to understand him and feel no way oabout him trying to kill her, just look at Naruto and you will get my point.

For the record, I do think the logic reasons for Tsunade to be cut in half are her medic ability and got saved once, won't be saved again. Medic is considered a must-kill target in combat, because he/she can always heal soldiers, which they can come back for more. I don't remember if this manga or not, but I remember hearing that medic is very important in combat because they are the best support and they can change the battle. Now for the second reason, she was on the verge of losing, so it's fitting for Madara to do it more cruel. It's the next step to make sure it won't happen again. Unless she can heal her body together, walking and all. But I do remember that Sakura said that medic ability doesn't heal everything, especially internal (when she was healing Naruto's hand). Plus, Madara does have a special grudge with Tsunade with her being a Senju member (somewhat) and she did talk smack at him.

She will die heroic if she does die. You can look at the debate thread on how I see the situation could go to. If not, if you guys want, I can post it here. Just say and I will do it so. That has to wait since we are going to get flashback now. Damn timing...

[merryGOflava]

^ of course she will die heroic!!!

healing the leaders of the other countries while split in half is heroic to me!

[T XD]

Don't worry everyone hate starting a fight but is annoying to read comments stating that Sakura will never do this or do that so I agree with you, just so you know.


@Nefertieh.
If Tsunade die, I want to see it as her dying as an hero since she is placing her life on the line to save the other Kage, I hate that the way Kishi brutally split her body, to me the manga treats the female sex as trash, but that is another topic.

Anyway there were two things I was against, people not seeing Tsunade die as something heroic or the lack of people dying in the war, but the focus being about Sakura development and future NS push, I don't need/we don't need to see any character dying to make another character better that's screwed up Sakura will never agree with that.

The other comment I was reading was that with Tsunade's death Sakura will finally understand NaruSasu, if Kushimoto will make a Sakura focus on Sasuke in a petty way is logical to believe that he wants her to understand him and feel no way oabout him trying to kill her, just look at Naruto and you will get my point.

If Tsunade dies, she will heroically and like the others said she's already doing it heroically by saving the other Kages and this alone is something awesome.
Maybe, we'll not see her where she talks and say to Naruto that she wants him to be the next hokage or that she expects him to be cause maybe we'll get something close to this or flashbacks which the part of her thinking of Naruto in way close to this. Tsunade is a character who played a big role in the original and shippuden plus she's an important person to Naruto and Sakura so we'll see something more about her death if she really dies.

You're right we don't need any character to die for developments but this is a way too for developments, that what the others are trying to say, which writers often use it. I, for example, if Tsunade dies and we got to see development, i won't get angry cause it's an option for a manga which a lot manga use it.

Naruto wants to do the right thing with his friend and willing to bring back the old Sasuke, with no grudges in him when he was little. He isn't pitying Sasuke, he's trying to let Sasuke see the right thing and if Tsunade's death will let Sakura understand Naruto and Sasuke, why would she pity him and let her feel nothing about him trying to kill her ? Dramatic romance story lines will always be in the characters that are connected to it and for Sakura's situation if this really happens, we're going to see her that she understands Naruto's pain which is related to Sasuke's pain which she'll understand the feeling that they are both feeling, not pitying over Sssuke and forget things.

Edited by T XD, 13 September 2012 - 08:35 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Don't worry everyone hate starting a fight but is annoying to read comments stating that Sakura will never do this or do that so I agree with you, just so you know.

OH!!
rly?
so being realist is being a sakura hater?
just face the truth, sakura can be a medic ninja and have a suber strength but face the reality she have a lot of weaknesses, a lot, she does not have speed, she cant fight at long distance, she does not know elemental jutsus, summoning techniques(?), sealing jutsus.
so what?
i know that she cant fight sasuke on the current state, instead of summoning slugs i prefer sakura to learn the sealing techniques of the uzumaki clan i prefer this is more usefull in a battle.

[T XD]

OH!!
rly?
so being realist is being a sakura hater?
just face the truth, sakura can be a medic ninja and have a suber strength but face the reality she have a lot of weaknesses, a lot, she does not have speed, she cant fight at long distance, she does not know elemental jutsus, summoning techniques(?), sealing jutsus.
so what?
i know that she cant fight sasuke on the current state, instead of summoning slugs i prefer sakura to learn the sealing techniques of the uzumaki clan i prefer this is more usefull in a battle.

Why would you say " a Sakura hater " here ?!!!!
He meant about the comments of what will most likely Sakura do that now Tsunade is on the verge of death or if she dies, that's all.

[Orenji]

Well.. I certainly do not want Tsunade to die.. but if you look at it this way..

All Sannins would finally be dead. (Finally sounds brutal, but necessary). Make way for the new ones! Sakura, Naruto, and Sasuke! I didn't have time to read through the 10 pages of forum, so sorry if already stated or debated about, and I see some people arguing over what Sakura will and will not do or something..

But I think with Tsunade gone Sakura will become the most powerful kunoichi, partly maybe to avenger her master or to finish what her master started. All the sannins(? spelling) would be gone, Team 7 would be the new "it" team. Hahaha.

[candycane-chan]

Well.. I certainly do not want Tsunade to die.. but if you look at it this way..

All Sannins would finally be dead. (Finally sounds brutal, but necessary). Make way for the new ones! Sakura, Naruto, and Sasuke! I didn't have time to read through the 10 pages of forum, so sorry if already stated or debated about, and I see some people arguing over what Sakura will and will not do or something..

But I think with Tsunade gone Sakura will become the most powerful kunoichi, partly maybe to avenger her master or to finish what her master started. All the sannins(? spelling) would be gone, Team 7 would be the new "it" team. Hahaha.

before I reply are you serious or are you just joking . because honestly i'm lost here

[Codus N]

Well.. I certainly do not want Tsunade to die.. but if you look at it this way..

All Sannins would finally be dead. (Finally sounds brutal, but necessary). Make way for the new ones! Sakura, Naruto, and Sasuke! I didn't have time to read through the 10 pages of forum, so sorry if already stated or debated about, and I see some people arguing over what Sakura will and will not do or something..

But I think with Tsunade gone Sakura will become the most powerful kunoichi, partly maybe to avenger her master or to finish what her master started. All the sannins(? spelling) would be gone, Team 7 would be the new "it" team. Hahaha.

Oro was revived recently. (Wish Kishi kept him dead)

[Nefertieh]

If Tsunade die, I want to see it as her dying as an hero since she is placing her life on the line to save the other Kage, I hate that the way Kishi brutally split her body, to me the manga treats the female sex as trash, but that is another topic.

She is essentially dying a hero. It may not be a graceful exist, but at least the camera isn't going up her skirt like the mizukage.

Anyway there were two things I was against, people not seeing Tsunade die as something heroic or the lack of people dying in the war, but the focus being about Sakura development and future NS push, I don't need/we don't need to see any character dying to make another character better that's screwed up Sakura will never agree with that.

The other comment I was reading was that with Tsunade's death Sakura will finally understand NaruSasu, if Kushimoto will make a Sakura focus on Sasuke in a petty way is logical to believe that he wants her to understand him and feel no way oabout him trying to kill her, just look at Naruto and you will get my point.

I don't think Tsunade's death will mean anything for the pairings. It may help her understand Naruto and Sasuke better, but it would be ridiculous to assume her only thought after losing Tsunade was Naruto or Sasuke.

I have to say I don't think Jiraiya's death did anything for Naruto's character development. He hasn't ever needed help understanding Sasuke's pain. I think Jiraiya's death was more to drive the point home of the new generation surpassing the old one. Especially when you look at the fact Jiraya died fighting pain, and then Naruto went and beat him. I really hope Tsunade dies, although even if she does, I'm really not sure how Kishimoto is going to handle it. Sakura, and other characters, could react in so many different ways in my mind. Although I think Sakura needs some serious development on the side of losing loved ones. I think it was important for her to not have lost someone in Part 1 to have a contrast of character between team 7 but I think it's time the ninja world take it's toll on her personally.

In the Inari chapter, Naruto himself said it did, which was why nothing he said to Sasuke got through to him in the Valley of the End.

Edited by Nefertieh, 13 September 2012 - 02:40 PM.

[PhenixElite]

[quote name='Nefertieh' date='Sep 13 2012, 03:31 PM' post='411060']

I don't think Tsunade's death will mean anything for the pairings. It may help her understand Naruto and Sasuke better, but it would be ridiculous to assume her only thought after losing Tsunade was Naruto or Sasuke.


Its not that shes will think about that but naruto will be there for her to comfort her you know.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I should bring old post here. Here it is:

Here's one thing that people must keep in mind. Okay, I still don't know if Tsunade will die, but if she does, well it's obvious that both Naruto and Sakura will have development. You can't dismiss either one of them. Naruto will feel like he let her down for not ending this problem sooner. Let's not forget, Tsunade told him to finish the fight in which it could be her last words to Naruto, so leaving that last words to him will hurt him because he would wish it wouldn't be the last thing he would hear from Tsunade. It's pretty obvious Naruto will get a development from this tragedy. No chance in hell that Kishi will ignore him altogether, especially how much he put Naruto and Tsunade in the same scene. Their bonds are strong as well. Remember how sad he felt about Tsunade's condition after Pain's invasion arc. Also, even the anime filler kept showing his concern for Tsunade. She is close to him.

As for Sakura, she will go through development when she dies. She will most likely train harder as a medic and other things, especially that rule of a medic. It's possible she can learn the summon if there's a contract somewhere back in Konoha, but who knows. Now here's something I have to address in here. People in here say Sakura will learn both Naruto and Sasuke's lost. That may happen, but for some reason, I get the feeling she will only connect herself with Chiyo and perhaps she will flashback her days with Tsunade. And for some reason, Kishi could only connect her to Naruto's lost to Jiraiya. Remember the movie? She only connects to Naruto when she felt lonely. Why not Sasuke after losing his family and the clan? Because the focus is on Naruto. The story is about Naruto. I doubt she will go through Naruto about vengeance because she's against that idea. Plus this will be more for Naruto since look how angry Naruto was when Madara kept taunting. Pretty much, a small push to the edge and Naruto will go all out anger. Hm, sounds like a good time for using Sakura to push him angrier (ex. Obito trying to kill her).

Now why do I think that NS development will happen if Tsunade dies? Ok, first of all, I am not a fan of killing her off equals development. I am not happy nor mad, just waiting to see how everything will go down. Ok, now about the development. Kishi has a lot of roads to take. Here's my thoughts. Naruto and Sakura are close to Tsunade. No doubt they will feel sadness from the tragedy. The question is who will cheer up who. If you ask me, Naruto cheering her up will be the best time to hint Sakura that there's something more to Naruto than she thought. If Sasuke was the one in Naruto's shoes, he will walk away in silence or something. Sakura always feel sad with him. Naruto, however, is her main support in many ways. She will be sad at one point and after Naruto comfort her, she will smile again. She will continue to grow strong, just as Tsunade wishes her to do after her passing. Remember, Naruto wants her to smile at all cost. He always finds a way to comfort her. I mean he even managed to do it back at the end of part 1, regardless of his failure. People needs to remember: Sasuke has no connection to Tsunade. Plus he's not even there to support Sakura or anyone for that matter. So he will be dismissed.

As for the future, like I said, Naruto will hint her unintentionally that she has a special feeling for Naruto, which could start her journey to understand that feeling. I do believe Sasuke will return or turn good by the end of the manga, so don't expect any Sasuke comfort Sakura and what not. Another way for NS development is Naruto says something heroic and looking cool, she may accidentally blush and get lost in her mind for like 3 seconds, while Naruto is clueless what's happening. I don't remember where I read that scene, but hopefully my mind gets clearer as the day is still young. Also, after learning Tsunade's death, Sakura may cry for Naruto when he's about to face Sasuke, because she will not only remember his quote about both of them dying, but she will remember that Sasuke said that he will kill him, which shows how dark he has gone through. She wouldn't want another precious person to die, so Naruto will comfort her that everything will be ok. Remember, Sasuke isn't there for Sakura to talk to him, so only Naruto is there. It's the calm before storm moment.

This is only my thoughts on the potential future. Will it happen? Who knows. Take it what it is. My point is that you shouldn't worry too much about Sasuke. Sasuke is on his own for many things. Naruto is about his bonds and the future. Of course, this is about Naruto.

[PhenixElite]

I should bring old post here. Here it is:

Here's one thing that people must keep in mind. Okay, I still don't know if Tsunade will die, but if she does, well it's obvious that both Naruto and Sakura will have development. You can't dismiss either one of them. Naruto will feel like he let her down for not ending this problem sooner. Let's not forget, Tsunade told him to finish the fight in which it could be her last words to Naruto, so leaving that last words to him will hurt him because he would wish it wouldn't be the last thing he would hear from Tsunade. It's pretty obvious Naruto will get a development from this tragedy. No chance in hell that Kishi will ignore him altogether, especially how much he put Naruto and Tsunade in the same scene. Their bonds are strong as well. Remember how sad he felt about Tsunade's condition after Pain's invasion arc. Also, even the anime filler kept showing his concern for Tsunade. She is close to him.

As for Sakura, she will go through development when she dies. She will most likely train harder as a medic and other things, especially that rule of a medic. It's possible she can learn the summon if there's a contract somewhere back in Konoha, but who knows. Now here's something I have to address in here. People in here say Sakura will learn both Naruto and Sasuke's lost. That may happen, but for some reason, I get the feeling she will only connect herself with Chiyo and perhaps she will flashback her days with Tsunade. And for some reason, Kishi could only connect her to Naruto's lost to Jiraiya. Remember the movie? She only connects to Naruto when she felt lonely. Why not Sasuke after losing his family and the clan? Because the focus is on Naruto. The story is about Naruto. I doubt she will go through Naruto about vengeance because she's against that idea. Plus this will be more for Naruto since look how angry Naruto was when Madara kept taunting. Pretty much, a small push to the edge and Naruto will go all out anger. Hm, sounds like a good time for using Sakura to push him angrier (ex. Obito trying to kill her).

Now why do I think that NS development will happen if Tsunade dies? Ok, first of all, I am not a fan of killing her off equals development. I am not happy nor mad, just waiting to see how everything will go down. Ok, now about the development. Kishi has a lot of roads to take. Here's my thoughts. Naruto and Sakura are close to Tsunade. No doubt they will feel sadness from the tragedy. The question is who will cheer up who. If you ask me, Naruto cheering her up will be the best time to hint Sakura that there's something more to Naruto than she thought. If Sasuke was the one in Naruto's shoes, he will walk away in silence or something. Sakura always feel sad with him. Naruto, however, is her main support in many ways. She will be sad at one point and after Naruto comfort her, she will smile again. She will continue to grow strong, just as Tsunade wishes her to do after her passing. Remember, Naruto wants her to smile at all cost. He always finds a way to comfort her. I mean he even managed to do it back at the end of part 1, regardless of his failure. People needs to remember: Sasuke has no connection to Tsunade. Plus he's not even there to support Sakura or anyone for that matter. So he will be dismissed.

As for the future, like I said, Naruto will hint her unintentionally that she has a special feeling for Naruto, which could start her journey to understand that feeling. I do believe Sasuke will return or turn good by the end of the manga, so don't expect any Sasuke comfort Sakura and what not. Another way for NS development is Naruto says something heroic and looking cool, she may accidentally blush and get lost in her mind for like 3 seconds, while Naruto is clueless what's happening. I don't remember where I read that scene, but hopefully my mind gets clearer as the day is still young. Also, after learning Tsunade's death, Sakura may cry for Naruto when he's about to face Sasuke, because she will not only remember his quote about both of them dying, but she will remember that Sasuke said that he will kill him, which shows how dark he has gone through. She wouldn't want another precious person to die, so Naruto will comfort her that everything will be ok. Remember, Sasuke isn't there for Sakura to talk to him, so only Naruto is there. It's the calm before storm moment.

This is only my thoughts on the potential future. Will it happen? Who knows. Take it what it is. My point is that you shouldn't worry too much about Sasuke. Sasuke is on his own for many things. Naruto is about his bonds and the future. Of course, this is about Naruto.

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Watch it and cry out how much bulls*it is in there

[candycane-chan]

/\ hey relax why are you so pissed off
i personally won't watch it but from the comments i saw here

it --Click here to view--

it seems as usual hinata>>> naruto and the anime could've done it worst they could've made her flashback i guess they're preparing for the 'eye' scene

[Nefertieh]

Its not that shes will think about that but naruto will be there for her to comfort her you know.

I'm responding to the hysteria that Sakura will somehow think she deserves to be stabbed after empathizing with Sasuke's loss.

The whole village will be in mourning if Tsunade dies. The ninja world, maybe, considering she's used the last of her life to save the other Kages.

Edited by Nefertieh, 13 September 2012 - 03:06 PM.

[PhenixElite]

/\ hey relax why are you so pissed off
i personally won't watch it but from the comments i saw here

it --Click here to view--

it seems as usual hinata>>> naruto and the anime could've done it worst they could've made her flashback i guess they're preparing for the 'eye' scene

eye scene??