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Posted 11 April 2012 - 10:32 AM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Apr 11 2012, 02:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well I know he loves both of them differently. Sasuke like a brother and Sakura romantically. Of course Naruto didn't explode because Sakura didn't die or anything but still...I would think he would have
stayed a little more angry but instead he was calm for the most part. I just wonder Naruto is pretty much obsessed with saving Sasuke but I just wonder if Sakura was the one who left Konoha, would he try half as hard to save her like he does with Sasuke? It sometimes seems that Naruto cares more about Sasuke than her though maybe its because Sasuke is the one that needs to be saved. I just don't know. Like does Naruto care more about Sasuke than her? That's what I'm trying to say. I hope I'm not bringing up anything too ridiculous happy.gif, just something to think about I guess.


I don't understand what from would naruto have to save her from if she was in place of sasuke! Yes if the conditions of sakura were same or even similar to that of sasuke then naruto definitely would have gone and done anything in his power to bring her back and then we would have got even more of trying because he also loves sakura romantically and not only friendly biggrin.gif

But their is no point discussing what he would have done because sakura don't have any such problem of hatred and i don't think she will have any such problem!

*edit*- sorry i double posted


hey guys i was just thinking when i used to watch only anime and not read the manga, and predict some pairings they usually used to become true! and by seeing the anime of naruto(even though i read the manga also) i am thinking that narusaku will not happen!

I think this might also be due to the new ending theme and that utakata hanabi ending but what do u guys think will happen if u were only watching anime and U were considering the fillers also canon!

By watching only anime i don't think narusaku is going canon(though manga is also not helping much lately) but just wanted to know what u guys would have thought if u only watched the anime!


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Posted 11 April 2012 - 11:06 AM

Ok let me say this. Naruto loves Sakura. And he cares for Sasuke. I don't know, But love is stronger then care right? But back then, Imagine that Kishi replaced places with Sakura and Sasuke. Who do you think Naruto would care for more? Ofc Sakura. He loves her. He'll do it even more then twice of what he did with Sasuke. Just an opinion though

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 11:19 AM

QUOTE (lord287 @ Apr 11 2012, 10:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hey guys i was just thinking when i used to watch only anime and not read the manga, and predict some pairings they usually used to become true! and by seeing the anime of naruto(even though i read the manga also) i am thinking that narusaku will not happen!

I think this might also be due to the new ending theme and that utakata hanabi ending but what do u guys think will happen if u were only watching anime and U were considering the fillers also canon!

By watching only anime i don't think narusaku is going canon(though manga is also not helping much lately) but just wanted to know what u guys would have thought if u only watched the anime!


apologies for my weak english!!


If you think about it that way, go and watch ep 235. Strangely, even though if I would only consider anime, I still see NaruSaku all the way. Maybe you consider it that way because you have made up your mind before watching it?

To comply with debate thread's rules, we should only bring up references from manga/data books or any other resources that Kishi made them originally. This is what matters.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 03:55 PM

QUOTE (Zeref @ Apr 11 2012, 07:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know, But love is stronger then care right?


Yep! You see, care is a part of love. Love involves many more things than care (responsibility, respect, knowledge, passion and commitment, all of them are part of love), so love is definitely stronger than care.

So yep, I agree with you here. I think that Naruto's bond with Sasuke has grown to the point of considering both his brother and his best friend, but the bond he shares with Sakura is that of a best friend and of a lover.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 09:02 PM

Only one way to find out is put Naruto in a difficult situation. Give him a choice. Save Sakura and Sasuke dies or save Sasuke and Sakura dies. A cliche, but always effective problem villains tend to use against the protagonist. 9 times out of ten the hero manages to save both, but it would be interesting to see what happens in Naruto's case.
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 10:13 PM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Apr 11 2012, 02:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well I know he loves both of them differently. Sasuke like a brother and Sakura romantically. Of course Naruto didn't explode because Sakura didn't die or anything but still...I would think he would have
stayed a little more angry but instead he was calm for the most part. I just wonder Naruto is pretty much obsessed with saving Sasuke but I just wonder if Sakura was the one who left Konoha, would he try half as hard to save her like he does with Sasuke? It sometimes seems that Naruto cares more about Sasuke than her though maybe its because Sasuke is the one that needs to be saved. I just don't know. Like does Naruto care more about Sasuke than her? That's what I'm trying to say. I hope I'm not bringing up anything too ridiculous happy.gif, just something to think about I guess.


Oh no problem, it is questioning at times why Naruto is so single minded about him, But of course the answer is the bond between them. The are the most kindred spirits out of all their peers,(except for Gaara) and had a unique closeness from the very start, Sasuke is just trying to deny it cause he wants to be the angry avenger, full of angst. Anyways one of this series' themes is to treasure your bonds with others.

QUOTE (lord287 @ Apr 11 2012, 03:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't understand what from would naruto have to save her from if she was in place of sasuke! Yes if the conditions of sakura were same or even similar to that of sasuke then naruto definitely would have gone and done anything in his power to bring her back and then we would have got even more of trying because he also loves sakura romantically and not only friendly biggrin.gif

But their is no point discussing what he would have done because sakura don't have any such problem of hatred and i don't think she will have any such problem!

*edit*- sorry i double posted


hey guys i was just thinking when i used to watch only anime and not read the manga, and predict some pairings they usually used to become true! and by seeing the anime of naruto(even though i read the manga also) i am thinking that narusaku will not happen!

I think this might also be due to the new ending theme and that utakata hanabi ending but what do u guys think will happen if u were only watching anime and U were considering the fillers also canon!

By watching only anime i don't think narusaku is going canon(though manga is also not helping much lately) but just wanted to know what u guys would have thought if u only watched the anime!


apologies for my weak english!!


your English is fine. smile.gif Well I still saw Narusaku happening even before I started reading the manga, so my opinion differs from yours but that's fine we don't need to see the same thing. I just thought that Naruto was similar to Sakura and their personalities fitted, plus the fact they looked cute together. The Tsundere thing did not bother me since I was use to it. And I think Tsunderes are cute too. yes.gif

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 12:16 AM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Apr 11 2012, 05:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Only one way to find out is put Naruto in a difficult situation. Give him a choice. Save Sakura and Sasuke dies or save Sasuke and Sakura dies. A cliche, but always effective problem villains tend to use against the protagonist. 9 times out of ten the hero manages to save both, but it would be interesting to see what happens in Naruto's case.


So that means Kakashi's little scenario way back in the beginning of the series may come true? Remember that scene?

When Team 7 failed the bell test the first time, Kakashi gave that example to Sakura as an ultimatum to kill Naruto or Sasuke dies (while he was in submission by Kakashi), and she hesitated and doesn't know what to do.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 12:41 AM

As much as Naruto is obsessed invested into saving Sasuke, I think he would be betraying his own ideals by let an faithful conmarade die, in order to save someone that did nothing but stomp on his friendship.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 12:58 AM

No, obsessed is a pretty good word for it yes.gif

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 01:10 AM

Despite Sasuke being the ultimate villain in Naruto's case...I can still see why he holds him in high regards(wow, I sure use this word a lot lately) I mean he was the first person Naruto ever met who was just like him (starting off) So even if we don't like Sasuke, I guess we should respect that Naruto did. Why he still does though...I really have no clue (same goes with Sakura, though it's hard to determine if she actually likes him still)

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 01:14 AM

QUOTE (Derock @ Apr 11 2012, 04:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So that means Kakashi's little scenario way back in the beginning of the series may come true? Remember that scene?

When Team 7 failed the bell test the first time, Kakashi gave that example to Sakura as an ultimatum to kill Naruto or Sasuke dies (while he was in submission by Kakashi), and she hesitated and doesn't know what to do.


Yeah pretty much. I wouldn't be surprised if it came to that and see what happens because of it or what choice Naruto makes. It might even give Sasuke a moment of "good" to say to tell Naruto to not waste his life on him and save Sakura. And to make sure he goes through with it, kills himself so Naruto didn't have to make the choice.
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 01:17 AM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Apr 12 2012, 02:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah pretty much. I wouldn't be surprised if it came to that and see what happens because of it or what choice Naruto makes. It might even give Sasuke a moment of "good" to say to tell Naruto to not waste his life on him and save Sakura. And to make sure he goes through with it, kills himself so Naruto didn't have to make the choice.

I can see Kishimoto letting Naruto save both...I don't like it, but I can for some reason see him doing it. If he doesn't though, I'd probably have to congratulate him...though Sasuke fans will be raging for days

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 01:37 AM

QUOTE (Derock @ Apr 11 2012, 08:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So that means Kakashi's little scenario way back in the beginning of the series may come true? Remember that scene?

When Team 7 failed the bell test the first time, Kakashi gave that example to Sakura as an ultimatum to kill Naruto or Sasuke dies (while he was in submission by Kakashi), and she hesitated and doesn't know what to do.

If Sakura was in a scenario where she had to kill Naruto in order for Sasuke to live I bet it would go like this:

Sakura would be in pain because she knows she would never dare harm Naruto, not even to save Sasuke. Just when she's about to lay her kunai down Naruto rushes to her with the intention of impaling himself (just like Yahiko did) but Sakura catches on to what he plans to do and blocks his way with her own arm stabbing it in the process.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 02:13 AM

Given that situation, I can picture Sakura (of course like everyone else said: being in pain) killing Sasuke to save Naruto if desperate measures came to it.
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What if it came down to Hinata and Sakura? No doubt that he'd save Sakura.. (his best friend, his team mate.. his love.) But if that chapter does come, I bet the NH fans would rave that he owes it to her cause she "saved" him from pein. Yet.. he already "Rescued" her in that "Kabutos trump card." chapter. rolleyes.gif
 
 
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 02:50 AM

QUOTE (Phantom_999 @ Apr 11 2012, 08:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, obsessed is a pretty good word for it yes.gif


Obsessed is a perfect word yes.gif . I actually like the SasuNaru bond between them and I have never thought Naruto was gay or anything. In fact, I remember clearly when I was on Youtube some ignorant people calling him gay for Sasuke and I was really surprised as that thought had never crossed my mind. But looking back on the Naruto episodes, I could see why some people think that. I don't believe it of course but Naruto does go over the top for Sasuke and I was a little confused over it. However, I understand better now since that's just how japanese bonds are.


I love Tsundere characters too wub.gif . I always like strong-willed and fiesty girls who are really easy to irritate yet really kind underneath(They remind me of myself happy.gif .) They almost always end up my favorite characters(Which is why Sakura, Tsunade, and Kushina are in my top favorites). I like shy, quiet characters to an extent but it depends on how shy. Hinata was always way too shy for me mellow.gif.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 04:54 AM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Apr 11 2012, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Obsessed is a perfect word yes.gif . I actually like the SasuNaru bond between them and I have never thought Naruto was gay or anything. In fact, I remember clearly when I was on Youtube some ignorant people calling him gay for Sasuke and I was really surprised as that thought had never crossed my mind. But looking back on the Naruto episodes, I could see why some people think that. I don't believe it of course but Naruto does go over the top for Sasuke and I was a little confused over it. However, I understand better now since that's just how japanese bonds are.


I love Tsundere characters too wub.gif . I always like strong-willed and fiesty girls who are really easy to irritate yet really kind underneath(They remind me of myself happy.gif .) They almost always end up my favorite characters(Which is why Sakura, Tsunade, and Kushina are in my top favorites). I like shy, quiet characters to an extent but it depends on how shy. Hinata was always way too shy for me mellow.gif.

Truly, the people who accuse Naruto or Sasuke of being gay simply don't understand how important the bonds between people are in japanese culture. But not gonna lie, if Sasuke had been designed as a girl it would have been the greatest love story ever told. Every Naruto fan would've gone crazy with the development of those two if that was the case. Makes me wonder if that was a wasted opportunity, but I guess I mention it because I don't remember much mangas in which the rival was a girl and at the same time your love interest.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 07:54 AM

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Truly, the people who accuse Naruto or Sasuke of being gay simply don't understand how important the bonds between people are in japanese culture. But not gonna lie, if Sasuke had been designed as a girl it would have been the greatest love story ever told. Every Naruto fan would've gone crazy with the development of those two if that was the case. Makes me wonder if that was a wasted opportunity, but I guess I mention it because I don't remember much mangas in which the rival was a girl and at the same time your love interest.


I know. I was a little annoyed with those people calling Naruto and Sasuke gay as I was sure neither of them were(Naruto is straight and Sasuke is asexual) dry.gif . But I admit, if Sasuke were a girl, I probably would have shipped SasuNaru in a romantic sense instead of friendship and NaruSaku as well. I'm not against gayness or anything but I feel that NaruSaku is less awkward than SasuNaru since they are both guys. It would be a great love story, no question biggrin.gif.

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QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Apr 11 2012, 09:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well I know he loves both of them differently. Sasuke like a brother and Sakura romantically. Of course Naruto didn't explode because Sakura didn't die or anything but still...I would think he would have
stayed a little more angry but instead he was calm for the most part. I just wonder Naruto is pretty much obsessed with saving Sasuke but I just wonder if Sakura was the one who left Konoha, would he try half as hard to save her like he does with Sasuke? It sometimes seems that Naruto cares more about Sasuke than her though maybe its because Sasuke is the one that needs to be saved. I just don't know. Like does Naruto care more about Sasuke than her? That's what I'm trying to say. I hope I'm not bringing up anything too ridiculous happy.gif, just something to think about I guess.


Given the way he has already risked his life for her several times? I'm pretty sure he wouldn't even wait for the order. He would have been out of the gates as soon as he knew the direction she was heading.
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 11:01 AM

QUOTE (Derock @ Apr 12 2012, 05:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So that means Kakashi's little scenario way back in the beginning of the series may come true? Remember that scene?

When Team 7 failed the bell test the first time, Kakashi gave that example to Sakura as an ultimatum to kill Naruto or Sasuke dies (while he was in submission by Kakashi), and she hesitated and doesn't know what to do.


which chapter did this thing happen! I thinki must have seen bt forgetting it! Can u plz tell which chapter or which canime episode he gave this ultimatum and was sakura ready to kill naruto back then or not???

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 11:17 AM

I cannot see Sakura choosing life and death between Sasuke and Naruto. I have no doubt that she would find a way to save both, and would likely turn away from making a choice between the two. Despite his current state, Sasuke still means a great deal to Sakura after all. I don't really believe she favors one over the other, no matter which boy she decides to romantically get involved with.




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