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[Anguyen92]

I geuss we'll just have to wait and see what happens! P.S I think that next chapter, Naruto and Sakura could be fighting side by side. How awesome would that be! XD

Yep, I would love nothing more than to see them fighting side by side. Heck with their abilities and tactics, they should be dominating every opponent they see, yet I don't know why we haven't seen more side-by-side fights with each other. The only one on my count is with Kakashi and that's it.

[FoolishYoungling]

The only one on my count is with Kakashi and that's it.

where is he anyway?

[Amy-chan]

where is he anyway?

I think he's still out on the battlefield.

Also I really liked this chapter brought out a bunch good things and bad things to talk about. Also really liked the part when the Ex-Mizukage said Naruto and Gaara made a good team.

[Fliss]

Nope, don't see it. In chapter 540, that Zetsu was within arm's length (hand on her shoulder), and was swinging his (it's?) kunai at her from behind, and she still scrambled him. In this chapter (558) the Zetsu's are more than a body length away, Sakura has her arms up in a fighting posture, and fierce determination on her face. It is very debatable that she "needed" saving. I think she was preparing her "Denny's-waitress-jutsu". ("Here's your Grand Slam!" )

Ah yeah! Good point. She reacted so quickly, too. Thanks for pointing that out.

I still don't mind her being saved, though. I guess it's just my personal opinion.

[Paptala]

Someone on Mangastream said Kishi confirmed Naruhina?
It's on the debate thread. Just wondering...

I wouldn't worry about it; I assume they're referring to their belief that Kishimoto confirming with the events of this chapter that he's going to make NH canon, which is of course, totally making a huge and unfounded leap of faulty logic.

He just saved her. If that's all it took to make a pairing canon, all of the B3 would have been canon ages ago, multiple times over.

[Naruhina488]

Zetsu is a member of the Atksatski, right? We don't know much about Zetsu and his abilities so how could we know if he could imitate kyubi mode. Who knows! Maybe zetsu got one of naruto's clones and absorbed him! D:

[FoolishYoungling]

To me Neji and Kiba looked way more in love with Hinata than Naruto did at that scene. As we all know, those two also have been said to be able to pair with Hinata! But for me its like this: NaruSaku, KibaHina, NejiTenTen,

[TerrorKing]

Seems like things are about to escalate, what with Muu's Kuchiyose no Jutsu and Naruto going all out with the Zetsu's. It was nice seeing Sakura again. Her being saved by Naruto didn't really bother me that much, seeing as how that seems to be his "thing" right now. Also, if if turns out that Sakura is indeed heading out with Naruto, then she might finally get that epic fight that some of us have been craving for so long. As for the NS/NH reunion's, they might lead to some sort of resolution, but im not holding my breath.

Overall, a solid chapter. Can't wait to see what happens next week!

[Super Boom]

Zetsu is a member of the Atksatski, right? We don't know much about Zetsu and his abilities so how could we know if he could imitate kyubi mode. Who knows! Maybe zetsu got one of naruto's clones and absorbed him! D:

I think that's a possibility, but I'm not quite sure how White Zetsu's cloning technique works. On this page of 487, Madara claimed that Zetsu can create 'perfect duplicates of anyone he's ever touched, right down to their chakra'. So now I'm wondering a few things.

1.) Has Zetsu ever touched Naruto? The only time I can imagine that happening would be during the war, but it seems like Naruto fought the clones long-range. Plus, if the clones did manage to touch Naruto, does that mean the original White Zetsu can create a clone of Naruto, or only the one that touched him? Also, can the clones clone themselves, sort of like plant cells dividing, or is it only the original one (who may or may not have been killed by Sasuke) that can create them?

Arggh! Maybe Kishi's planning on getting more into how that guy/thing functions, because I feel like I really don't understand White Zetsu. And I feel like we don't know too much about Black Zetsu either, other than that he can combine with inanimate objects.

2.) If Zetsu did manage to touch Naruto, does that mean he can copy Naruto's Kyuubi chakra, or just Naruto's? Or is it that the two are one in the same when Naruto is in Chakra mode? Or, maybe Madara combined the Kin/Gin brothers' Kyuubi chakra into Zetsu, and that explains how he can use Chakra mode.

In any case, I think the Naruto = Zetsu theory might be true, since any reasoning behind Zetsu's abilities can simply be elaborated upon next chapter to explain how he/it's using Chakra mode. But I guess my biggest question is the one Nate commented on earlier, what is Zetsu's motive in 'saving' Hinata? I suppose it could be explained in the next chapter or two as well, but I'm leaning towards it being Naruto right now. So far, Kiba's comment and Naruto's evil smirk are the only real things that back-up that theory (even though the evil smirk is pretty similar to the Neji clone's), so I'm not sure that's enough to come a conclusion.
I suppose Hinata's shocked reaction, with no blush or anything, could be a clue that something is up, since I assume Naruto's Byakugan-using former stalker would probably be one of the first to know if something was wrong with his chakra network. But then again, her reaction could just be proof that Hinata's feelings for Naruto have changed, whether for positive or negative.

Edited by Boom...Winning, 06 October 2011 - 12:26 AM.

[FoolishYoungling]

In any case, I think the Naruto = Zetsu theory might be true, since any reasoning behind Zetsu's abilities can simply be elaborated upon next chapter to explain how he/it's using Chakra mode. But I guess my biggest question is the one Nate commented on earlier, what is Zetsu's motive in 'saving' Hinata? I suppose it could be explained in the next chapter or two as well, but I'm leaning towards it being Naruto right now. So far, Kiba's comment and Naruto's evil smirk are the only real things that back-up that theory (even though the evil smirk is pretty similar to the Neji clone's), so I'm not sure that's enough to come a conclusion.
I suppose Hinata's shocked reaction, with no blush or anything, could be a clue that something is up, since I assume Naruto's Byakugan-using former stalker would probably be one of the first to know if something was wrong with his chakra network. But then again, her reaction could just be proof that Hinata's feelings for Naruto have changed, whether for positive or negative.

Really? I mean I've been hearing opinions about this for the past 24 hours from the left and right, but I'm going with it being real Naruto.... then again if its fake then a huge anti NH moment might come up when Hinata speaks to him. Either way we will have to wait another good week to find out! <---- me thinking about this in school

Edited by NaruSaku1, 06 October 2011 - 12:22 AM.

[TerrorKing]

I think that's a possibility, but I'm not quite sure how White Zetsu's cloning technique works. On this page of 487, Madara claimed that Zetsu can create 'perfect duplicates of anyone he's ever touched, right down to their chakra'. So now I'm wondering a few things.

1.) Has Zetsu ever touched Naruto? The only time I can imagine that happening would be during the war, but it seems like Naruto fought the clones long-range. Plus, if the clones did manage to touch Naruto, does that mean the original White Zetsu can create a clone of Naruto, or only the one that touched him? Also, can the clones clone themselves, sort of like plant cells dividing, or is it only the original one (who may or may not have been killed by Sasuke) that can create them?

Arggh! Maybe Kishi's planning on getting more into how that guy/thing functions, because I feel like I really don't understand White Zetsu. And I feel like we don't know too much about Black Zetsu either, other than that he can combine with inanimate objects.

2.) If Zetsu did manage to clone Naruto, does that mean he can copy Naruto's Kyuubi chakra, or just Naruto's? Or is it that the two are one in the same when Naruto is in Chakra mode? Or, maybe Madara combined the Kin/Gin brothers' Kyuubi chakra into Zetsu, and that explains how he can use Chakra mode.

In any case, I think the Naruto = Zetsu theory might be true, since any reasoning behind Zetsu's abilities can simply be elaborated upon next chapter to explain how he/it's using Chakra mode. But I guess my biggest question is the one Nate commented on earlier, what is Zetsu's motive in 'saving' Hinata? I suppose it could be explained in the next chapter or two as well, but I'm leaning towards it being Naruto right now. So far, Kiba's comment and Naruto's evil smirk are the only real things that back-up that theory (even though the evil smirk is pretty similar to the Neji clone's), so I'm not sure that's enough to come a conclusion.
I suppose Hinata's shocked reaction, with no blush or anything, could be a clue that something is up, since I assume Naruto's Byakugan-using former stalker would probably be one of the first to know if something was wrong with his chakra network. But then again, her reaction could just be proof that Hinata's feelings for Naruto have changed, whether for positive or negative.

For me, the only reason as to why Zetsu would want to save Hinata is because she could be of some sort of use to Madara, but I can't really figure out what that would be. Either that, or it is to get someone inside to take out the alliance from within, but that would essentially be the "Neji plan" all over again and we all know how that wen't , especially now that Naruto can sense who's real and who's an imposter. So yeah, I think it's the real Naruto and Kiba's comment and Hinata's expression might simply be because of his Chakra Mode.

[crazyefra]

Can it be that "Zetsu"-Naruto wants to earn their trust and strike when they lower their guard? If the theory of "Zetsu"-Naruto it's true, I have a very low hope that he'll say something that Hinata knows is a lie and she attacks him breaking the form and we get the "dreaded" flashback that just ends NH, with Naruto being grateful and telling her he doesn't love her like that... I might be wrong but I'll just wait and see.

[Naruhina488]

I think that's a possibility, but I'm not quite sure how White Zetsu's cloning technique works. On this page of 487, Madara claimed that Zetsu can create 'perfect duplicates of anyone he's ever touched, right down to their chakra'. So now I'm wondering a few things.

1.) Has Zetsu ever touched Naruto? The only time I can imagine that happening would be during the war, but it seems like Naruto fought the clones long-range. Plus, if the clones did manage to touch Naruto, does that mean the original White Zetsu can create a clone of Naruto, or only the one that touched him? Also, can the clones clone themselves, sort of like plant cells dividing, or is it only the original one (who may or may not have been killed by Sasuke) that can create them?

Arggh! Maybe Kishi's planning on getting more into how that guy/thing functions, because I feel like I really don't understand White Zetsu. And I feel like we don't know too much about Black Zetsu either, other than that he can combine with inanimate objects.

2.) If Zetsu did manage to touch Naruto, does that mean he can copy Naruto's Kyuubi chakra, or just Naruto's? Or is it that the two are one in the same when Naruto is in Chakra mode? Or, maybe Madara combined the Kin/Gin brothers' Kyuubi chakra into Zetsu, and that explains how he can use Chakra mode.

In any case, I think the Naruto = Zetsu theory might be true, since any reasoning behind Zetsu's abilities can simply be elaborated upon next chapter to explain how he/it's using Chakra mode. But I guess my biggest question is the one Nate commented on earlier, what is Zetsu's motive in 'saving' Hinata? I suppose it could be explained in the next chapter or two as well, but I'm leaning towards it being Naruto right now. So far, Kiba's comment and Naruto's evil smirk are the only real things that back-up that theory (even though the evil smirk is pretty similar to the Neji clone's), so I'm not sure that's enough to come a conclusion. I suppose Hinata's shocked reaction, with no blush or anything, could be a clue that something is up, since I assume
Naruto's Byakugan-using former stalker would probably be one of the first to know if something was wrong with his chakra network. But then again, her reaction could just be proof that Hinata's feelings for Naruto have changed, whether for positive or negative.

Hinata is not a stalker. Please do not say that. Anyways, hinata not blushing is indicating that she no longer has any feelings toward naruto. Compare that to the old hinata who used to faint and madly blush at naruto's presence. Here, she is just staring at him, saying nothing. As you have said, Zetsu can duplicate everything right down to the chakra. Hinata would not notice if the chakra was exaclty the same. I'm pretty sure that "Neji" passed the chakra test to see if he was legit (which he was not ) so I don't think that hinata would be able to tell the difference, let alone defend herself. Naruto's evil smirk was different from his usual overcockiness smirk. This one looks evil. Yes, it looks VERY identical to the one that "Neji" did. "Everything is gonna be alright now" Sounds like something zetsu would say before attempting murder. My prediction is that kiba will figure things out and save hinata. I wouldn't underustimate Zetsu. Maybe Zetsu saving Hinata was to kill her and every one there. Hmmm.. Zetsu could have touched a clone naruto when battleing them (unless naruto has battleded them withouth getting touched) Also, if anyone was going to see something wrong with zetsu's chakra network it would be Neji. Considering the fact that he is much more experienced. Damn, it's gonna feel like it's been year
until the next chapter!

[Super Boom]

Hinata is not a stalker. Please do not say that.

Sorry about that. I was sort of joking with that comment, but I realized after I posted that calling Hinata a 'stalker' might be on par with bashing. I guess I couldn't really think of a more innocent way of describing the way she watched him from the background all the time in Part I. Anyways, I'll be more careful with my words from now on.

Anyways, hinata not blushing is indicating that she no longer has any feelings toward naruto. Compare that to the old hinata who used to faint and madly blush at naruto's presence. Here, she is just staring at him, saying nothing. As you have said, Zetsu can duplicate everything right down to the chakra. Hinata would not notice if the chakra was exaclty the same. I'm pretty sure that "Neji" passed the chakra test to see if he was legit (which he was not ) so I don't think that hinata would be able to tell the difference, let alone defend herself. Naruto's evil smirk was different from his usual overcockiness smirk. This one looks evil. Yes, it looks VERY identical to the one that "Neji" did. "Everything is gonna be alright now" Sounds like something zetsu would say before attempting murder. My prediction is that kiba will figure things out and save hinata. I wouldn't underustimate Zetsu. Maybe Zetsu saving Hinata was to kill her and every one there. Hmmm.. Zetsu could have touched a clone naruto when battleing them (unless naruto has battleded them withouth getting touched) Also, if anyone was going to see something wrong with zetsu's chakra network it would be Neji. Considering the fact that he is much more experienced. Damn, it's gonna feel like it's been year
until the next chapter!

I guess it could be that Hinata doesn't have feelings for Naruto anymore, but it could also mean that Hinata's relationship with Naruto has changed for the better (or worse, for N/S fans, LOL). I'm not sure how likely that is, but I'm definitely not discounting it as a possibility. In any case, I'm looking forward to next chapter as well. I could see it happening both ways, concerning Naruto being himself or a Zetsu clone.

I do think though, that maybe a few N/S fans here, myself included, want it to be a Zetsu clone, to explain why Kishi seemed to put more effort in that reunion than the Naru/Saku one. I know it was technically an Naru/Team 8 reunion, and he didn't look at her, but Hinata's reaction was way more emphasized than Sakura's, and I felt like the scene itself had more of a climactic feel than the Sakura's 'rescue'. But maybe I'm just over-reacting to the reunions, since I was waiting for the N/S one for so long, and there's no way Kishi could have met my expectations after such a long wait.

[FoolishYoungling]

Can it be that "Zetsu"-Naruto wants to earn their trust and strike when they lower their guard? If the theory of "Zetsu"-Naruto it's true, I have a very low hope that he'll say something that Hinata knows is a lie and she attacks him breaking the form and we get the "dreaded" flashback that just ends NH, with Naruto being grateful and telling her he doesn't love her like that... I might be wrong but I'll just wait and see.

And thats the only thing that I'm hoping comes out of it being a fake Naruto(if it is fake).

Edited by NaruSaku1, 06 October 2011 - 01:17 AM.

[redkunai66]

i dunno- the white zetsu= naruto clone is an interesting idea- but i think its too jarring to work- the only ones we've seen so far of the K-11 that zetsu has mimicked to trick the reader and the characters- are both hyuuga- side characters with little effect on overall plot. But they are used to get a reaction out of the readers- the k-11 are fan favourites. Anyways it'd be quite a leap to suddenly have naruto turn out to be a zetsu as well- it sure as hell would screw up naruto's image of "saving everybody", something i don't see happening in canon- even if its already failed to work in fanon.

I was already surprised by hinata turning out to be a zetsu this chapter. Personally i've had enough of seeing the girl being beaten up- i mean her key battles she keeps getting the kitten beaten out of her (neji whooped her, so did pain, seeing her smashed against a wall by a nameless mook wasn't any nicer ).

the thing that will drive next chapter will be whatever Muu summons. As much as i'd like another narusaku moment: there's no reason for one beside team battling :/- same goes for hinata- kishi likes this hit and run method of story telling per chap. Remeber all those chapters ago that sasuke's eternal sharigan was revealed at the end chap, and naruto fandom had a hype hissy fit? how'd that work out?
not well anyways- sasuke and mandara are still running around off screen.

[Naruhina488]

Sorry about that. I was sort of joking with that comment, but I realized after I posted that calling Hinata a 'stalker' might be on par with bashing. I guess I couldn't really think of a more innocent way of describing the way she watched him from the background all the time in Part I. Anyways, I'll be more careful with my words from now on.


I guess it could be that Hinata doesn't have feelings for Naruto anymore, but it could also mean that Hinata's relationship with Naruto has changed for the better (or worse, for N/S fans, LOL). I'm not sure how likely that is, but I'm definitely not discounting it as a possibility. In any case, I'm looking forward to next chapter as well. I could see it happening both ways, concerning Naruto being himself or a Zetsu clone.

I do think though, that maybe a few N/S fans here, myself included, want it to be a Zetsu clone, to explain why Kishi seemed to put more effort in that reunion than the Naru/Saku one. I know it was technically an Naru/Team 8 reunion, and he didn't look at her, but Hinata's reaction was way more emphasized than Sakura's, and I felt like the scene itself had more of a climactic feel than the Sakura's 'rescue'. But maybe I'm just over-reacting to the reunions, since I was waiting for the N/S one for so long, and there's no way Kishi could have met my expectations after such a long wait.

True. Sakura and Hinata's reactions to seeing naruto were very different.
Sakura wasn't really that shocked to see him bit she was still wondering how'd he get here/he looked different because of kyubi mode.
Hinata was VERY shocked to see Naruto. Kinda like she wasnt expecting him to even be in this war.
Next chapter will probably be NS fighting side by side clobering any enemy they see since they are so perfectly synced with each other. That would be cool to see. Haven't seen the NS duo fight since they very beggining of Shippuden

Edit: lmfao redkunia66! I wonder what the hell sasuke and madara are up to too. Kidnapping maybe?

Edited by Naruhina488, 06 October 2011 - 01:31 AM.

[tricksie]

I do think though, that maybe a few N/S fans here, myself included, want it to be a Zetsu clone, to explain why Kishi seemed to put more effort in that reunion than the Naru/Saku one. I know it was technically an Naru/Team 8 reunion, and he didn't look at her, but Hinata's reaction was way more emphasized than Sakura's, and I felt like the scene itself had more of a climactic feel than the Sakura's 'rescue'. But maybe I'm just over-reacting to the reunions, since I was waiting for the N/S one for so long, and there's no way Kishi could have met my expectations after such a long wait.

I think it has to do more with building suspense than anything. There may have been more shots of Hinata, but Sakura has always had pride of place with Naruto. His interactions with her are first, specific and direct. Naruto always seeks Sakura out. With Hinata, his interactions are more vague and less specifically directed at her, and many times happening in response to something else and not of his own volition.

Kishimoto can throw as many scenes with Hinata flitting around that he wants — and he does. But none of them carry the weight of the few scenes with Sakura. So take heart! I think the Hinata stuff is just suspense building. In no way does it undermine Naruto's devotion to Sakura.

I have more thoughts on the way the scenes were drawn and how the two scenes unfold for the audience...but I'm so tired right now.... I think I'll post it later when I can think straight.

[Anguyen92]

True. Sakura and Hinata's reactions to seeing naruto were very different.
Sakura wasn't really that shocked to see him bit she was still wondering how'd he get here/he looked different because of kyubi mode.
Hinata was VERY shocked to see Naruto. Kinda like she wasnt expecting him to even be in this war.

Well, I'm not directing this to you but to this fact.

Well, imo, I kinda expect Sakura to be somewhat surprised, in a wow I really didn't think he would be here but I should have known that he would be here because well he's F'en Naruto. Now, I don't expect Hinata to react the same way, because didn't in 540 that she states that this war is to protect Naruto or something? I don't think that the dude needs any protecting because he's F'en Naruto.

Man, I really love justifying why Naruto is doing certain things because he's F'en Naruto. Gives some sort of good vibe to it.

Btw, I think that once they talk about how/why he is all glowly in Kyubi mode, it would be a nice transition to Naruto to talking about Kushina to Sakura.

Edited by Anguyen92, 06 October 2011 - 01:56 AM.

[ramenanmitsu]

I will heal you my friend But yes iam ok with this chapter but if you read the page when naruto saved her she needed it, check the range between zetsu clone and her she would be dead if naruto didn't arrive,But no iam ok with the way kishi handling sakura and dont worry if you noticed she allways get some kind of weak when she heals people(check the pain arc when she was healing the village) So yeah and dont lose hope because she is the most important role in the war

Thanks. I feel better now. Yes, indeed she has an important role. To ninjas information are the most important. Sakura has figured out two of the most important and useful information. One being, that Zetsu impersonates the people of the alliance with identical chakra, and second, Zetsu being made of plant clones. Too bad that people downplay her achievements for the sake of action packed battles.

I'm a big Sakura fan and honestly I'm okay with Sakura being saved if it's Naruto that saves her...

Seriously, though. It did look like she needed it. Those Zetsu clones were at very close range when they lunged to attack. I don't think she would have had enough time nor space to react.

I actually disagree with Sakura needing protection from Zetsu. She was able to pawn the fake Neji even though she was sitting down and not even looking(Her speed is incredible). Chances are, she could've pawned those married couple Zetsus with much less difficulty compared to the time with fake Neji(At least this time she's standing AND looking at them).
Probably I'm disappointed it wasn't bridal style

On another note, I have a feeling that Zetsu might use Love letter guy to get to Sakura. I may be looking into too much but this panel on this page disturbs me. Fake Neji notices the love letter guy and is somewhat thinking about it. Why would we have that panel? Is fake Neji thinking that the chances of killing Sakura will be low with the love letter guy around? or is he thinking of a way to use him?

Edited by narunarunaru, 06 October 2011 - 02:18 AM.